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Postby JH'sTXfan » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:01 pm

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Aaron wrote:I've had enough of your shit asshole. I'm not sure if you're Jeremey's mom or sister but I'm sure that will come to light soon enough. I like Jeremey a lot, but with fuckheads like you supporting him, it's a good reason to pull for someone else.

Falsetto is used by every fucking non-fag male singer to hit range Journey operates in. Steve Perry himself used falsetto to hit those notes. Falsetto can be powerful or not depending on how you apply it. Dumb fuck! The only person that sucks around here is you.

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Aaron wrote:I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.


Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks


Bravo Aaron!!!


Oops, sorry. I thought it was someone else. I got JTF and JFF mixed up.



This may happen again. Maybe I should change my screen name?
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Postby Jeremey » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:08 pm

Voyager wrote:Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVA1Ke18Lo and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

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Okay, what the fuck? You obviously know me, so why go posting links to other bands and saying that it's me? Anyone even care to click on that link? Does anyone actually think that was me or my band?

Certain shit is beyond the pale, basing entire threads upon video clips that are obviously not me or my band. At least all of you haters get your facts straight. It's not hard to find clips of Frontiers, my band, based out of Virginia (not this dude who obviously does a good job, but it's also obvious you posted a link that wasn't me on purpose)...All one need do to find clips of me singing Journey is go to our damned website.

Jesus, people can say all the horrendously terrible things they want about me, call me a liar or a clown or (gulp) a bad singer, and I'm beyond all that & certainly not going to come out here and mix it up with you folks. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But when it's obvious misrepresentation of me and my band members, then I think it needs to be clarified since this has gone on for 2 pages now.

To clarify, this is the Frontiers video page: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... E2A82AE414

The link Voyager posted here is of a very good Journey tribute band out of Sweden also called Frontiers. However innocent it may be played off, I can't help but think there's plenty of clips to find right on our own website without someone having to go out of their way to misrepresent me or my band.

For the most part, I've staying off this board completely - The contraversy and discussion here is to be expected, and many thanks to all of you who have posted positive comments and supportive....But the world still turns, & I've got my hands full with plenty of other wonderful events happening in my life - it's not too funny to browse this site after being away for a while and see flat out lies and fakery being passed off as fact. I find it disrespectful not only to me, but to my band, and to the members of this other Journey tribute from Sweden, who are also doing what they love and work very hard at what they do.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:13 pm

Jeremey wrote:Okay, what the fuck? You obviously know me, so why go posting links to other bands and saying that it's me? Anyone even care to click on that link? Does anyone actually think that was me or my band?


Yikes! I hadn't clicked on the link so I wasn't aware it was totally someone else. Good catch.
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:13 pm

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Voyager wrote:Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxxxxxxxxxxx and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

8)


Okay, what the fuck? You obviously know me, so why go posting links to other bands and saying that it's me? Anyone even care to click on that link? Does anyone actually think that was me or my band?

Certain shit is beyond the pale, basing entire threads upon video clips that are obviously not me or my band. At least all of you haters get your facts straight. It's not hard to find clips of Frontiers, my band, based out of Virginia (not this dude who obviously does a good job, but it's also obvious you posted a link that wasn't me on purpose)...All one need do to find clips of me singing Journey is go to our damned website.

Jesus, people can say all the horrendously terrible things they want about me, call me a liar or a clown or (gulp) a bad singer, and I'm beyond all that & certainly not going to come out here and mix it up with you folks. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But when it's obvious misrepresentation of me and my band members, then I think it needs to be clarified since this has gone on for 2 pages now.

To clarify, this is the Frontiers video page: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... E2A82AE414

The link Voyager posted here is of a very good Journey tribute band out of Sweden also called Frontiers. However innocent it may be played off, I can't help but think there's plenty of clips to find right on our own website without someone having to go out of their way to misrepresent me or my band.

For the most part, I've staying off this board completely - The contraversy and discussion here is to be expected, and many thanks to all of you who have posted positive comments and supportive....But the world still turns, & I've got my hands full with plenty of other wonderful events happening in my life - it's not too funny to browse this site after being away for a while and see flat out lies and fakery being passed off as fact. I find it disrespectful not only to me, but to my band, and to the members of this other Journey tribute from Sweden, who are also doing what they love and work very hard at what they do.


Thanks for clearing that up Jeremey. I watched that video and didn't think it sounded like you. I didn't want to argue with the person who posted it since I wasn't positive. Take care.
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Postby NealIsGod » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:19 pm

Pretty sad when Hugo's "fans" have to resort to that kind of shit. I guess it was too hard for him to find a bad performance by you, J.
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:33 pm

Jeremey'sTXfan wrote:
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Voyager wrote:Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxxxxxxxxxxxxx and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

8)


Okay, what the fuck? You obviously know me, so why go posting links to other bands and saying that it's me? Anyone even care to click on that link? Does anyone actually think that was me or my band?

Certain shit is beyond the pale, basing entire threads upon video clips that are obviously not me or my band. At least all of you haters get your facts straight. It's not hard to find clips of Frontiers, my band, based out of Virginia (not this dude who obviously does a good job, but it's also obvious you posted a link that wasn't me on purpose)...All one need do to find clips of me singing Journey is go to our damned website.

Jesus, people can say all the horrendously terrible things they want about me, call me a liar or a clown or (gulp) a bad singer, and I'm beyond all that & certainly not going to come out here and mix it up with you folks. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But when it's obvious misrepresentation of me and my band members, then I think it needs to be clarified since this has gone on for 2 pages now.

To clarify, this is the Frontiers video page: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... E2A82AE414

The link Voyager posted here is of a very good Journey tribute band out of Sweden also called Frontiers. However innocent it may be played off, I can't help but think there's plenty of clips to find right on our own website without someone having to go out of their way to misrepresent me or my band.

For the most part, I've staying off this board completely - The contraversy and discussion here is to be expected, and many thanks to all of you who have posted positive comments and supportive....But the world still turns, & I've got my hands full with plenty of other wonderful events happening in my life - it's not too funny to browse this site after being away for a while and see flat out lies and fakery being passed off as fact. I find it disrespectful not only to me, but to my band, and to the members of this other Journey tribute from Sweden, who are also doing what they love and work very hard at what they do.


Thanks for clearing that up Jeremey. I watched that video and didn't think it sounded like you. I didn't want to argue with the person who posted it since I wasn't positive. Take care.


That's why I posted your Escape video farther down the thread. I wanted to draw attention away from that poster, but someone else quoted him again. I guess I shoulda just raised the question so someone could refute that video. Sorry, we're not more on the ball around here. :(
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Postby Perrylover » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:13 am

Jeremey wrote:
Voyager wrote:Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVA1Ke18Lo and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

8)


Okay, what the fuck? You obviously know me, so why go posting links to other bands and saying that it's me? Anyone even care to click on that link? Does anyone actually think that was me or my band?

Certain shit is beyond the pale, basing entire threads upon video clips that are obviously not me or my band. At least all of you haters get your facts straight. It's not hard to find clips of Frontiers, my band, based out of Virginia (not this dude who obviously does a good job, but it's also obvious you posted a link that wasn't me on purpose)...All one need do to find clips of me singing Journey is go to our damned website.

Jesus, people can say all the horrendously terrible things they want about me, call me a liar or a clown or (gulp) a bad singer, and I'm beyond all that & certainly not going to come out here and mix it up with you folks. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But when it's obvious misrepresentation of me and my band members, then I think it needs to be clarified since this has gone on for 2 pages now.

To clarify, this is the Frontiers video page: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... E2A82AE414

The link Voyager posted here is of a very good Journey tribute band out of Sweden also called Frontiers. However innocent it may be played off, I can't help but think there's plenty of clips to find right on our own website without someone having to go out of their way to misrepresent me or my band.

For the most part, I've staying off this board completely - The contraversy and discussion here is to be expected, and many thanks to all of you who have posted positive comments and supportive....But the world still turns, & I've got my hands full with plenty of other wonderful events happening in my life - it's not too funny to browse this site after being away for a while and see flat out lies and fakery being passed off as fact. I find it disrespectful not only to me, but to my band, and to the members of this other Journey tribute from Sweden, who are also doing what they love and work very hard at what they do.


Sorry I missed this one Jeremey, I didn't even click on the link until you said it wasn't you. I have seen all the comparison I need to see, and vocally you are heads and shoulders above Hugo on Journeys catalog, so I didn't even check it out.

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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:23 am

I still read too many posts that say, "Yea but Hugo LOOKS more like Perry so HE should be the choice."


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Postby Perrylover » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:27 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I still read too many posts that say, "Yea but Hugo LOOKS more like Perry so HE should be the choice."


Shiver me timbers. :shock:


Unfortunately, just because he looks like Perry USED TO look, doesn't mean he can sing like Perry. When it comes to that Journey sound, you've just got to have the right voice for it.

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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:34 am

NealIsGod wrote:Pretty sad when Hugo's "fans" have to resort to that kind of shit. I guess it was too hard for him to find a bad performance by you, J.


There ya go. Image

I wish I'd clicked on the links now. I just didn't because we've already done so many comparison threads that it seemed pointless. In fact, we've done so many I don't see why this one was even started. :roll:
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Postby Rick » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:39 am

ohsherrie wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Pretty sad when Hugo's "fans" have to resort to that kind of shit. I guess it was too hard for him to find a bad performance by you, J.


There ya go. Image

I wish I'd clicked on the links now. I just didn't because we've already done so many comparison threads that it seemed pointless. In fact, we've done so many I don't see why this one was even started. :roll:


I don't either, but damn those Hugo backers get pissed...lol
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Postby Jeremey fan forever » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:16 am

Marc Brunengraber wrote:
Hugo is simply more like Perry than Jeremey, despite Jeremey having a more powerful voice. And he looks the part a zillion times more than Jeremey. He'd be far better for Journey than Jeremey.

All of this 'Hugo is so much like Perry it's creepy' is a crock of shit, regardless of whether Schon himself said it.

If you want a Perry clone, Hugo is the best choice in the world. Period.



You are stupid Marc Bungrabber. :roll: Perry is originally known for Perry, and famous as Perry, not because of his nose, and black hair, but because of his unique and POWERFUL vocals. Hugo may physically qualify as a Perry twin brother or clone, there is no doubt. However, he does not sound like Perry at all, not even a little bit.

Since Journey is a music group ie, it is their sound which distinguishes them, not stage antics, not Ross's fashion sense, not Schon's banana or some tangenital aspect, so having a singer who looks and acts the part better than anyone else does not make him the best fit, because those are not the core competencies at all. Hell, if Journey weren't so talented at singing and playing they are kind of a bunch of nerds, and why the hell imitate that?

Hugo does not sing Journey songs well at all. I listened to a Valentine song recently which was good and good enough to make me stop saying he has no talent, but not enough to say he can or should do Journey. His ability to sing Journey is not very good at all. Its too thin, he uses too much falsetto and not enough head voice, he lacks the sustain and vibrato, he is not a power singer, at least not of Journey stuff, because it doesn't suit his voice or his range.

His voiced would be ruined in less time than Augeri's was because the songs are too high and too wrong for his voice. It would be entertaining anyway because he doesnt have the oomph those songs need to be effective. Even Soto never sounded like Perry, but at least his was a power singer and because of it the songs come across even though it sounds different than Perry doing them.

You guys who say he sounds like Perrry, I wonder, do you listen to Journey? Regularly? If I wasn't a fan of Journey and had only heard Journey 10 or 20 years ago a few times, I might think Hugo sounds like Perry. High voice = High voice, Hugo = Perry. However, I listen to Journey a lot and I am a fan and Hugo's voice is nothing at all like Perry's. Not even similar.

I wouldn't say it if it weren't true. I have nothing personal against the man at all. I think he sounds good in the Valentine song I heard. I think he sounds absolutely horrid singing Journey. There are many many other Journey tribute singers, and a lot of them I think sound pretty good, and none of them do I think sound as bad as Hugo doing them. I have no reason to say such a thing other than I really think its true. Its only my comment on what I hear, and has nothing to do with what I see.
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Postby Voyager » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:24 am

Jeremey wrote:
Voyager wrote:Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVA1Ke18Lo and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

8)


Okay, what the fuck? You obviously know me, so why go posting links to other bands and saying that it's me? Anyone even care to click on that link? Does anyone actually think that was me or my band?

Certain shit is beyond the pale, basing entire threads upon video clips that are obviously not me or my band. At least all of you haters get your facts straight. It's not hard to find clips of Frontiers, my band, based out of Virginia (not this dude who obviously does a good job, but it's also obvious you posted a link that wasn't me on purpose)...All one need do to find clips of me singing Journey is go to our damned website.


First of all, I don't know you. Second, it was an honest mistake. The band is a Journey cover band called Frontiers, the same as your band's name. Third, I was warming up to the good things people were saying about you and honestly starting to like what I heard. But if you're going to get all fucking hostile about it, then you can just forget getting any more appreciation out of me. This is a very unprofessional way of dealing with forum comments that you cannot control, and I can assure you, if you're being considered as frontman for Journey as many here say you are - they will be plenty of them.

Good luck. You'll need it.

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Postby gatorzone04 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:39 am

Jeremey fan forever wrote:
Marc Brunengraber wrote:
Hugo is simply more like Perry than Jeremey, despite Jeremey having a more powerful voice. And he looks the part a zillion times more than Jeremey. He'd be far better for Journey than Jeremey.

All of this 'Hugo is so much like Perry it's creepy' is a crock of shit, regardless of whether Schon himself said it.

If you want a Perry clone, Hugo is the best choice in the world. Period.



You are stupid Marc Bungrabber. :roll: Perry is originally known for Perry, and famous as Perry, not because of his nose, and black hair, but because of his unique and POWERFUL vocals. Hugo may physically qualify as a Perry twin brother or clone, there is no doubt. However, he does not sound like Perry at all, not even a little bit.

Since Journey is a music group ie, it is their sound which distinguishes them, not stage antics, not Ross's fashion sense, not Schon's banana or some tangenital aspect, so having a singer who looks and acts the part better than anyone else does not make him the best fit, because those are not the core competencies at all. Hell, if Journey weren't so talented at singing and playing they are kind of a bunch of nerds, and why the hell imitate that?

Hugo does not sing Journey songs well at all. I listened to a Valentine song recently which was good and good enough to make me stop saying he has no talent, but not enough to say he can or should do Journey. His ability to sing Journey is not very good at all. Its too thin, he uses too much falsetto and not enough head voice, he lacks the sustain and vibrato, he is not a power singer, at least not of Journey stuff, because it doesn't suit his voice or his range.

His voiced would be ruined in less time than Augeri's was because the songs are too high and too wrong for his voice. It would be entertaining anyway because he doesnt have the oomph those songs need to be effective. Even Soto never sounded like Perry, but at least his was a power singer and because of it the songs come across even though it sounds different than Perry doing them.

You guys who say he sounds like Perrry, I wonder, do you listen to Journey? Regularly? If I wasn't a fan of Journey and had only heard Journey 10 or 20 years ago a few times, I might think Hugo sounds like Perry. High voice = High voice, Hugo = Perry. However, I listen to Journey a lot and I am a fan and Hugo's voice is nothing at all like Perry's. Not even similar.

I wouldn't say it if it weren't true. I have nothing personal against the man at all. I think he sounds good in the Valentine song I heard. I think he sounds absolutely horrid singing Journey. There are many many other Journey tribute singers, and a lot of them I think sound pretty good, and none of them do I think sound as bad as Hugo doing them. I have no reason to say such a thing other than I really think its true. Its only my comment on what I hear, and has nothing to do with what I see.


NOTHING PERSONAL!!!! Are you kidding me! Every post from you is personal against Hugo!!
And let me tell you something if Journey wants to put asses in seats, they better go with Hugo. The average Journey fan wants to see Perry, since that will never happen, Hugo is the man. That may not go over to well in your little world, but 95% of people that would go to a Journey show want the visual, and his voice and singing style are a huge plus. Just ask the 1000's of fans he has around the world, NOW THAT IS A FACT!!!
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Postby Jeremey » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:47 am

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First of all, I don't know you. Second, it was an honest mistake. The band is a Journey cover band called Frontiers, the same as your band's name. Third, I was warming up to the good things people were saying about you and honestly starting to like what I heard. But if you're going to get all fucking hostile about it, then you can just forget getting any more appreciation out of me. This is a very unprofessional way of dealing with forum comments that you cannot control, and I can assure you, if you're being considered as frontman for Journey as many here say you are - they will be plenty of them.

Good luck. You'll need it.

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Oh, sorry dude...I just went to YouTube and typed in "frontiers Journey tribute" and 19 of our videos popped up, none of this other tribute band did...So I guess I wrongly assumed that you had to search extra hard for this clip of this band that wasn't us and misrepresent me as your post actually did. Dealing with forum comments? Unprofessional? Bullshit. People can say anything they want about me, I've stayed out of this completely. Just don't go posting videos that aren't me (even if it was an honest :roll: mistake), and expect it to go on for 3 pages without it being caught. Sorry I ruined your opinion of me by coming in and clarifying that your video clips were labelled incorrectly.
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Postby Panther » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:47 am

Voyager wrote:Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVA1Ke18Lo and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

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Were these a decent representation of both players? {edit by self - obviously after Jeremey's posting NOT a decent representation at all - EEK!} I found I did a bit better at judging (though I can't really call it that) with my eyes averted from the monitor. The first (Hugo), at least in this particular Journey tune (and most likely it is his personal style added), cut a few notes too many and seemed to be really reaching a bit for others. {edit - going back and listening again to Hugo's tune vs Jeremey's REAL tune} The other young buck, Jeremey, did indeed have the fuller voice referenced above and pulled the range pretty close. Damn, Jeremey! Having not heard you prior to this.... What a voice and style! Hugo is definitely NOT the right fit. Jeremey would definitely be a fit. Nice one at that.

With that said, though, I would have to question (regardless of how long one has been a major fan, etc...) why on earth someone of Jeremey's vocal talent would want to enter into the quagmire of Journey. Yes, I know that any long time fan of any band who was offered the chance at joining that band would most likely do so. In this case, I personally think it would be a waste of Jeremey's noted talent. I'm not in that position, though. Jeremey's choice to make. As others have said, he needs to go in with full knowledge of the history and with both eyes wide open. Of course, great legal representation wouldn't hurt in this case, either.

{edit by self - scratching the bit about the other young vocalist}

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Postby Voyager » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:55 am

Jeremey wrote:Sorry I ruined your opinion of me by coming in and clarifying that your video clips were labelled incorrectly.


You didn't ruin it, I just reacted to your reaction. No big deal dude. We're all human. Keep on rockin' and singing your heart out. If I could sing like Steve Perry, I would probably be doing exactly what you are doing. We share the same passion for his music, and that's why most of us are here.

As far as the video goes, it came up on the right hand side of YouTube when I clicked on another Frontiers video that someone posted on this thread. I just figured they were all from the same Frontiers Journey cover band. Who would have guessed there are two of them?

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Postby Jeremey fan forever » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:36 am

Marc Brunengraber wrote:NOTHING PERSONAL!!!! Are you kidding me! Every post from you is personal against Hugo!!
And let me tell you something if Journey wants to put asses in seats, they better go with Hugo. The average Journey fan wants to see Perry, since that will never happen, Hugo is the man. That may not go over to well in your little world, but 95% of people that would go to a Journey show want the visual, and his voice and singing style are a huge plus. Just ask the 1000's of fans he has around the world, NOW THAT IS A FACT!!!


First, Hugo is not Perry, so your assertion that "the average journey fan wants to see Perry" will be satisfied by Hugo being on stage exactly how?

Second, the reason why people want to see Perry (something you and I agree they want) on stage is not just to see his chicken dance and do his Perry bit, they want to SEE Perry because they want to HEAR Perry.

Now, short of having Perry actually on stage, nobody gets what they truly want. But if I have to pay money, I'll pay to hear someone who can sing his ass off, and put power and emotion behind the songs like Perry did, and, hit all the notes while he is at it. This is why Hugo can never be the man for the Job, and Jeremey can.

PS I don't know why you would WANT Hugo in Journey! He sounds good doing Valentine, and he sounds horrible doing Journey. Why do you want him to look foolish and sound bad if you like him so much? Are you two related? Does he owe you some money? Think about it.
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Postby gatorzone04 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:48 am

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Marc Brunengraber wrote:NOTHING PERSONAL!!!! Are you kidding me! Every post from you is personal against Hugo!!
And let me tell you something if Journey wants to put asses in seats, they better go with Hugo. The average Journey fan wants to see Perry, since that will never happen, Hugo is the man. That may not go over to well in your little world, but 95% of people that would go to a Journey show want the visual, and his voice and singing style are a huge plus. Just ask the 1000's of fans he has around the world, NOW THAT IS A FACT!!!


First, Hugo is not Perry, so your assertion that "the average journey fan wants to see Perry" will be satisfied by Hugo being on stage exactly how?

Second, the reason why people want to see Perry (something you and I agree they want) on stage is not just to see his chicken dance and do his Perry bit, they want to SEE Perry because they want to HEAR Perry.

Now, short of having Perry actually on stage, nobody gets what they truly want. But if I have to pay money, I'll pay to hear someone who can sing his ass off, and put power and emotion behind the songs like Perry did, and, hit all the notes while he is at it. This is why Hugo can never be the man for the Job, and Jeremey can.

PS I don't know why you would WANT Hugo in Journey! He sounds good doing Valentine, and he sounds horrible doing Journey. Why do you want him to look foolish and sound bad if you like him so much? Are you two related? Does he owe you some money? Think about it.


Listen, just by making that comment about being foolish and sounding bad is the reason I would want to see Hugo get the offer, and by the way Journey has not made any commitment to anyone, I would rather not see him in Journey because EVOLUTION puts on a better show then they do.
You never heard me say anything bad about Jeremey, your guy, and alls you do is bad mouth Hugo, you never seen an EVOLUTION show so you no nothing about them. This makes me believe that you are afraid of Hugo getting the job.
I have all of Hugo's CD's and would rather see a Hugo concert over a Journey concert. Now can you say the same about Jeremey?
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Postby Jeremey fan forever » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:16 am

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Listen, just by making that comment about being foolish and sounding bad is the reason I would want to see Hugo get the offer, and by the way Journey has not made any commitment to anyone, I would rather not see him in Journey because EVOLUTION puts on a better show then they do.
You never heard me say anything bad about Jeremey, your guy, and alls you do is bad mouth Hugo, you never seen an EVOLUTION show so you no nothing about them. This makes me believe that you are afraid of Hugo getting the job.
I have all of Hugo's CD's and would rather see a Hugo concert over a Journey concert. Now can you say the same about Jeremey?


You are too emotional about it. Hugo not being Journey grade is not that big a deal. I think Steve Perry is the greatest ever, period. That being said, there are a ton of bands the guy could not sing for if they needed a replacement. Perry has a certain style and range that makes him the best at what he does, and others cant touch it. But there are hundreds of bands that I would not like to hear Perry in, that are good bands, because Perry's voice wouldn't fit.

If that's true for Perry, what's the problem if its true for Hugo? He is unique right? He could sing for a lot of bands and sound great, but Journey isn't one of them. If you don't believe me, go look at journeyshow.com and see his own promotional material. Its really not very good. The band is cool, but he isn't.
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Postby gatorzone04 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:33 am

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Marc Brunengraber wrote:
Listen, just by making that comment about being foolish and sounding bad is the reason I would want to see Hugo get the offer, and by the way Journey has not made any commitment to anyone, I would rather not see him in Journey because EVOLUTION puts on a better show then they do.
You never heard me say anything bad about Jeremey, your guy, and alls you do is bad mouth Hugo, you never seen an EVOLUTION show so you no nothing about them. This makes me believe that you are afraid of Hugo getting the job.
I have all of Hugo's CD's and would rather see a Hugo concert over a Journey concert. Now can you say the same about Jeremey?


You are too emotional about it. Hugo not being Journey grade is not that big a deal. I think Steve Perry is the greatest ever, period. That being said, there are a ton of bands the guy could not sing for if they needed a replacement. Perry has a certain style and range that makes him the best at what he does, and others cant touch it. But there are hundreds of bands that I would not like to hear Perry in, that are good bands, because Perry's voice wouldn't fit.

If that's true for Perry, what's the problem if its true for Hugo? He is unique right? He could sing for a lot of bands and sound great, but Journey isn't one of them. If you don't believe me, go look at journeyshow.com and see his own promotional material. Its really not very good. The band is cool, but he isn't.


No I am not too emotional, I am reacting to all the "Hugo Sucks" comments, because you have never seen him in EVOLUTION or witness the whole Journey Experience from EVOLUTION. When the President of Epic Records says that "EVOLUTION is the cloest thing to a real Journey Show from the 80's that I have ever heard or seen" I have to agree with him.
Unless you are president of a record company, I think everyone should take your opinions for what it's worth, not much.
So don't make any judgements if you have never seen him with EVOLUTION, his original music speals for it's self, CLASSIC!!!
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Postby Rick » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:46 am

gatorzone04 wrote:
Jeremey fan forever wrote:
Marc Brunengraber wrote:
Listen, just by making that comment about being foolish and sounding bad is the reason I would want to see Hugo get the offer, and by the way Journey has not made any commitment to anyone, I would rather not see him in Journey because EVOLUTION puts on a better show then they do.
You never heard me say anything bad about Jeremey, your guy, and alls you do is bad mouth Hugo, you never seen an EVOLUTION show so you no nothing about them. This makes me believe that you are afraid of Hugo getting the job.
I have all of Hugo's CD's and would rather see a Hugo concert over a Journey concert. Now can you say the same about Jeremey?


You are too emotional about it. Hugo not being Journey grade is not that big a deal. I think Steve Perry is the greatest ever, period. That being said, there are a ton of bands the guy could not sing for if they needed a replacement. Perry has a certain style and range that makes him the best at what he does, and others cant touch it. But there are hundreds of bands that I would not like to hear Perry in, that are good bands, because Perry's voice wouldn't fit.

If that's true for Perry, what's the problem if its true for Hugo? He is unique right? He could sing for a lot of bands and sound great, but Journey isn't one of them. If you don't believe me, go look at journeyshow.com and see his own promotional material. Its really not very good. The band is cool, but he isn't.


No I am not too emotional, I am reacting to all the "Hugo Sucks" comments, because you have never seen him in EVOLUTION or witness the whole Journey Experience from EVOLUTION. When the President of Epic Records says that "EVOLUTION is the cloest thing to a real Journey Show from the 80's that I have ever heard or seen" I have to agree with him.
Unless you are president of a record company, I think everyone should take your opinions for what it's worth, not much.
So don't make any judgements if you have never seen him with EVOLUTION, his original music speals for it's self, CLASSIC!!!


Journey will decide who will front the band. I don't give a shit what Charlie Walk or any other Perignon sipper thinks, I like Jeremey better. And yes, you and that other gonad are way too emotional about it.
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Postby gatorzone04 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:59 am

Rick wrote:
gatorzone04 wrote:
Jeremey fan forever wrote:
Marc Brunengraber wrote:
Listen, just by making that comment about being foolish and sounding bad is the reason I would want to see Hugo get the offer, and by the way Journey has not made any commitment to anyone, I would rather not see him in Journey because EVOLUTION puts on a better show then they do.
You never heard me say anything bad about Jeremey, your guy, and alls you do is bad mouth Hugo, you never seen an EVOLUTION show so you no nothing about them. This makes me believe that you are afraid of Hugo getting the job.
I have all of Hugo's CD's and would rather see a Hugo concert over a Journey concert. Now can you say the same about Jeremey?


You are too emotional about it. Hugo not being Journey grade is not that big a deal. I think Steve Perry is the greatest ever, period. That being said, there are a ton of bands the guy could not sing for if they needed a replacement. Perry has a certain style and range that makes him the best at what he does, and others cant touch it. But there are hundreds of bands that I would not like to hear Perry in, that are good bands, because Perry's voice wouldn't fit.

If that's true for Perry, what's the problem if its true for Hugo? He is unique right? He could sing for a lot of bands and sound great, but Journey isn't one of them. If you don't believe me, go look at journeyshow.com and see his own promotional material. Its really not very good. The band is cool, but he isn't.


No I am not too emotional, I am reacting to all the "Hugo Sucks" comments, because you have never seen him in EVOLUTION or witness the whole Journey Experience from EVOLUTION. When the President of Epic Records says that "EVOLUTION is the cloest thing to a real Journey Show from the 80's that I have ever heard or seen" I have to agree with him.
Unless you are president of a record company, I think everyone should take your opinions for what it's worth, not much.
So don't make any judgements if you have never seen him with EVOLUTION, his original music speals for it's self, CLASSIC!!!


Journey will decide who will front the band. I don't give a shit what Charlie Walk or any other Perignon sipper thinks, I like Jeremey better. And yes, you and that other gonad are way too emotional about it.


Yes, Journey will decide who will front the band, and I don't give a shit what any red neck thinks either, Hugo would sell more Journey tickets then Jeremey could ever sell because Hugo has more of the Journey look and soud then Jeremey does.
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Postby Rick » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:02 am

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Rick wrote:Journey will decide who will front the band. I don't give a shit what Charlie Walk or any other Perignon sipper thinks, I like Jeremey better. And yes, you and that other gonad are way too emotional about it.


Yes, Journey will decide who will front the band, and I don't give a shit what any red neck thinks either, Hugo would sell more Journey tickets then Jeremey could ever sell because Hugo has more of the Journey look and soud then Jeremey does.


And that's where you're wrong. Jeremey sings the songs. Hugo impersonates. I do a pretty good impersonation of Karl from Sling Blade. Maybe I should do movies. :roll:
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Postby gatorzone04 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:17 am

Rick wrote:
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Rick wrote:Journey will decide who will front the band. I don't give a shit what Charlie Walk or any other Perignon sipper thinks, I like Jeremey better. And yes, you and that other gonad are way too emotional about it.


Yes, Journey will decide who will front the band, and I don't give a shit what any red neck thinks either, Hugo would sell more Journey tickets then Jeremey could ever sell because Hugo has more of the Journey look and soud then Jeremey does.


And that's where you're wrong. Jeremey sings the songs. Hugo impersonates. I do a pretty good impersonation of Karl from Sling Blade. Maybe I should do movies. :roll:


Well here we go again, another wise ass who thinks he knows the difference between singing the songs and impersonates, so what you are saying is that Frontiers is just a cover bar band that happens to perform Journey music, correct? And he interperts the Journey catalog when he performs, so they try to play the songs differentlythen Journet. Is that what you are saying?

Well I know Hugo doesn't have a web site advertising the fact he does impersontions and entertainment, like Jeremey does, not that it makes him a bad guy.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:20 am

gator, do you have any other interests than Hugo? You seem pretty fucking obsessed.
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Postby Liam » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:21 am

NealIsGod wrote:gator, do you have any other interests than Hugo? You seem pretty fucking obsessed.


Anyone else here think that Gator is Frank from BT?
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Postby Rick » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:26 am

gatorzone04 wrote:Well here we go again, another wise ass who thinks he knows the difference between singing the songs and impersonates, so what you are saying is that Frontiers is just a cover bar band that happens to perform Journey music, correct? And he interperts the Journey catalog when he performs, so they try to play the songs differentlythen Journet. Is that what you are saying?

Well I know Hugo doesn't have a web site advertising the fact he does impersontions and entertainment, like Jeremey does, not that it makes him a bad guy.


Don't talk down to me dickhead. First of all, this has nothing to do with Frontiers or Evolution. What I see is Jeremey doing a better rendition of Journey music than Hugo. There was a friggin poll here, Jeremey got twice the votes that Hugo did. What the hell else is there to discuss? If Journey hires Jeremey, will that shut you up? Hugo can go on with his lounge act.
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Postby gatorzone04 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:34 am

NealIsGod wrote:gator, do you have any other interests than Hugo? You seem pretty fucking obsessed.


I am not the one with over 9000 posts, I can ask you the same question
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Postby gatorzone04 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:40 am

Rick wrote:
gatorzone04 wrote:Well here we go again, another wise ass who thinks he knows the difference between singing the songs and impersonates, so what you are saying is that Frontiers is just a cover bar band that happens to perform Journey music, correct? And he interperts the Journey catalog when he performs, so they try to play the songs differentlythen Journet. Is that what you are saying?

Well I know Hugo doesn't have a web site advertising the fact he does impersontions and entertainment, like Jeremey does, not that it makes him a bad guy.


Don't talk down to me dickhead. First of all, this has nothing to do with Frontiers or Evolution. What I see is Jeremey doing a better rendition of Journey music than Hugo. There was a friggin poll here, Jeremey got twice the votes that Hugo did. What the hell else is there to discuss? If Journey hires Jeremey, will that shut you up? Hugo can go on with his lounge act.


You have the right to have your own opinion dickhead, I respect that. What I don't respect is people make unwarrented comments about a singer who they have never seen before. I have never made an opinion about Jeremey as a vocalist because I have never seen him live, untill then I will keep my opinion to myself.
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