Tired...

[PianoMan1986]

Well, I'm a first-time poster with this message, but that's not to imply that I'm a first-time visitor. I won't beat around the bush because I have no reason to waste your time with this bulletin. Basically I just want to voice my opinion that I'm tired of all the negativity and venom being spewed on this board that I was under the impression to spark interest and support for a band that we love and enjoy. Now I realize that nothing says I "have" to come here or "have" to read anything on this forum, but I'd like to hold out for the day that uplifting topics and news reappear on this forum. Maybe I missed it back near the beginning of this outlash, but what's Andrew's take on things and where does he stand since initially I viewed him to be quite the Journey advocate? Maybe the readers are asking, "Didn't the events of Jeff Scott Soto negatively affect you?" In response, yes they came as quite a surprise 1) having only seen Jeff perform once (and being blown away for that matter), 2) the success of the last tour, and 3) the hype of new life being breathed into the band as well as talk of the label backing this lineup. Was I around when Steve Perry was with the band? No, I was born in 1986 and didn't really start following Journey until about 1999 (my first show being the "Under the Radar Tour"). I didn't intend to throw this into this topic, but I might as well since it's crossed my mind: "Why are people so hellbent on Steve Perry's return to the band when he's made it perfectly clear (many times over mind you) that the Journey chapter of his life is over and he's content with what he's doing?" To get back on track a little bit, I didn't agree with the departure of Steve Augeri either (and for all the nay-sayers, I don't believe that tapegate was used especially since the band released an official statement to Classic Rock magazine as well as here denying the bogus claim), but I supported the band's judgement with their decision. Going back to all the fire that's burning on this forum (involving altered views, rediculous profile images, etc.), we've all seen various changes with this band and have managed to support them as long as the band keeps going, so what makes this time any different? For what it's worth, I checked out the clips of Jeremy's performances on some of the tunes and although the sound quality due to the audience wasn't great, I still couldn't believe my ears; personally I think he'd be great for the job (and even though many will consider this choice of words to be shooting myself in the foot) as long as his voice sustains itself as it seems too in those videos and he's up for the job. Will we ever know the real truth as to what's happened within this band, most likely not. Realistically what I care about is that they still go out having fun and putting on decent shows for the generations that go to see them because I'm left asking myself (being shy of 21 years old), "What am I going to do when this band and many similar bands of the time throw in the towel? Will I have to settle for listening to the recordings, or will someone else come along to carry on the torch?" It's a weak plea, but please stop this hate and negativity that's going on. Has anyone stopped in the midst of all this to wonder why the band hasn't posted or stated anything? Maybe it's because they themselves are tired of all this and are waiting in hopes that things will cool down (the sooner the better). No matter who you want to point fingers at with this, it's obviously struck the band and the fans, a trial by fire (sorry, but it seemed to fit). Sorry to get cheesy or sappy on you, but I think it's about time that we look toward tomorrow and face whatever's going to happen.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this. I only posted with the best of intentions and not to encourage anymore dispute on this forum, in the event that I have, I do apologize.

Still a fan,

Nick

[Andrew]

Hi Nick,
Welcome to the board....your message was a little hard to read, but I did see you asking for my input.

You are right - I am/was a huge Journey fan...

I posted my feelings about things several weeks back and they haven't changed sicne that time - so:

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... highlight=

[Rhiannon]

Holding down the conviction for the 80s babies. Whether anyone agrees with your opinions or not is never the issue, the fact that you have them and present them with such conviction is awesome.

Just enjoy what you like, and hell be damned with what you don't. (Taken from an almost 22 year old)

[Crazie Scarab]

:cry:

Well, I'm a first-time poster with this message, but that's not to imply that I'm a first-time visitor. I won't beat around the bush because I have no reason to waste your time with this bulletin. Basically I just want to voice my opinion that I'm tired of all the negativity and venom being spewed on this board that I was under the impression to spark interest and support for a band that we love and enjoy. Now I realize that nothing says I "have" to come here or "have" to read anything on this forum, but I'd like to hold out for the day that uplifting topics and news reappear on this forum. Maybe I missed it back near the beginning of this outlash, but what's Andrew's take on things and where does he stand since initially I viewed him to be quite the Journey advocate? Maybe the readers are asking, "Didn't the events of Jeff Scott Soto negatively affect you?" In response, yes they came as quite a surprise 1) having only seen Jeff perform once (and being blown away for that matter), 2) the success of the last tour, and 3) the hype of new life being breathed into the band as well as talk of the label backing this lineup. Was I around when Steve Perry was with the band? No, I was born in 1986 and didn't really start following Journey until about 1999 (my first show being the "Under the Radar Tour"). I didn't intend to throw this into this topic, but I might as well since it's crossed my mind: "Why are people so hellbent on Steve Perry's return to the band when he's made it perfectly clear (many times over mind you) that the Journey chapter of his life is over and he's content with what he's doing?" To get back on track a little bit, I didn't agree with the departure of Steve Augeri either (and for all the nay-sayers, I don't believe that tapegate was used especially since the band released an official statement to Classic Rock magazine as well as here denying the bogus claim), but I supported the band's judgement with their decision. Going back to all the fire that's burning on this forum (involving altered views, rediculous profile images, etc.), we've all seen various changes with this band and have managed to support them as long as the band keeps going, so what makes this time any different? For what it's worth, I checked out the clips of Jeremy's performances on some of the tunes and although the sound quality due to the audience wasn't great, I still couldn't believe my ears; personally I think he'd be great for the job (and even though many will consider this choice of words to be shooting myself in the foot) as long as his voice sustains itself as it seems too in those videos and he's up for the job. Will we ever know the real truth as to what's happened within this band, most likely not. Realistically what I care about is that they still go out having fun and putting on decent shows for the generations that go to see them because I'm left asking myself (being shy of 21 years old), "What am I going to do when this band and many similar bands of the time throw in the towel? Will I have to settle for listening to the recordings, or will someone else come along to carry on the torch?" It's a weak plea, but please stop this hate and negativity that's going on. Has anyone stopped in the midst of all this to wonder why the band hasn't posted or stated anything? Maybe it's because they themselves are tired of all this and are waiting in hopes that things will cool down (the sooner the better). No matter who you want to point fingers at with this, it's obviously struck the band and the fans, a trial by fire (sorry, but it seemed to fit). Sorry to get cheesy or sappy on you, but I think it's about time that we look toward tomorrow and face whatever's going to happen.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this. I only posted with the best of intentions and not to encourage anymore dispute on this forum, in the event that I have, I do apologize.

Still a fan,

Nick

You're 21. You missed the best of the best and my guess is you'll never see what Journey truly WAS. Sad. But true.

[Rick]

Nick, thanks for the post and welcome to the forum. It's always good to see youth embracing Journey.

I'd like to explain why you see so much angst and animosity here toward the band.

A whole lot of the people here have been Journey fans for a long long time, some since the 70's. We grew up with it, fell in love with it, and really admired the band members for giving us such great quality music. The earliest I saw them was in '81 on the Escape tour. I was 18. Now I'm nearly 45. Journey has been along for some of the best times in my life and for a long time. When you develop such a connection with a band that spans decades and then you begin to see the erosion, it really takes a toll on you. It's akin to, but not nearly as important as, seeing our country turning to shit like it has been. It makes you angry, hurt & bitter. We've seen the guys we held in such high esteem for so long, treat people like throw aways. Perry, Augeri and now Jeff all have fallen to the same fate because of the same people. It starts really digging in. We stay and hope for the best and support the band year after year and they continue to kick their fans and members in the nuts with their decisions and behavior.

So, it's been going on for a good long time now and we keep sticking around, hoping this time will be different, and we will get our once great band back. We keep thinking that and hoping, and they keep knocking us back to the canvas.

I know it's just a band and we shouldn't take a band so seriously. That much is painfully true, but we do it anyway because back in the day, they gave us something really special that we don't want to, or are not ready to let go of. But they are making it almost impossible not to.

[G.I.Jim]

:cry:

Well, I'm a first-time poster with this message, but that's not to imply that I'm a first-time visitor. I won't beat around the bush because I have no reason to waste your time with this bulletin. Basically I just want to voice my opinion that I'm tired of all the negativity and venom being spewed on this board that I was under the impression to spark interest and support for a band that we love and enjoy. Now I realize that nothing says I "have" to come here or "have" to read anything on this forum, but I'd like to hold out for the day that uplifting topics and news reappear on this forum. Maybe I missed it back near the beginning of this outlash, but what's Andrew's take on things and where does he stand since initially I viewed him to be quite the Journey advocate? Maybe the readers are asking, "Didn't the events of Jeff Scott Soto negatively affect you?" In response, yes they came as quite a surprise 1) having only seen Jeff perform once (and being blown away for that matter), 2) the success of the last tour, and 3) the hype of new life being breathed into the band as well as talk of the label backing this lineup. Was I around when Steve Perry was with the band? No, I was born in 1986 and didn't really start following Journey until about 1999 (my first show being the "Under the Radar Tour"). I didn't intend to throw this into this topic, but I might as well since it's crossed my mind: "Why are people so hellbent on Steve Perry's return to the band when he's made it perfectly clear (many times over mind you) that the Journey chapter of his life is over and he's content with what he's doing?" To get back on track a little bit, I didn't agree with the departure of Steve Augeri either (and for all the nay-sayers, I don't believe that tapegate was used especially since the band released an official statement to Classic Rock magazine as well as here denying the bogus claim), but I supported the band's judgement with their decision. Going back to all the fire that's burning on this forum (involving altered views, rediculous profile images, etc.), we've all seen various changes with this band and have managed to support them as long as the band keeps going, so what makes this time any different? For what it's worth, I checked out the clips of Jeremy's performances on some of the tunes and although the sound quality due to the audience wasn't great, I still couldn't believe my ears; personally I think he'd be great for the job (and even though many will consider this choice of words to be shooting myself in the foot) as long as his voice sustains itself as it seems too in those videos and he's up for the job. Will we ever know the real truth as to what's happened within this band, most likely not. Realistically what I care about is that they still go out having fun and putting on decent shows for the generations that go to see them because I'm left asking myself (being shy of 21 years old), "What am I going to do when this band and many similar bands of the time throw in the towel? Will I have to settle for listening to the recordings, or will someone else come along to carry on the torch?" It's a weak plea, but please stop this hate and negativity that's going on. Has anyone stopped in the midst of all this to wonder why the band hasn't posted or stated anything? Maybe it's because they themselves are tired of all this and are waiting in hopes that things will cool down (the sooner the better). No matter who you want to point fingers at with this, it's obviously struck the band and the fans, a trial by fire (sorry, but it seemed to fit). Sorry to get cheesy or sappy on you, but I think it's about time that we look toward tomorrow and face whatever's going to happen.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this. I only posted with the best of intentions and not to encourage anymore dispute on this forum, in the event that I have, I do apologize.

Still a fan,

Nick

Hey man,

Great post! I agree 100% about the negative posts. I didn't mind it the first few days/weeks, but it's almost become a joke! While I have to admit, I think some of the pictures you people post crack me up, I wish some of the negativity would make it's way outta here!

I do have to disagree on one point though...Tapegate. It was not a bogus claim. The soundwaves were examined in a public forum for all to see, and proved without a shadow of a doubt that they (Augeri's lead stage vocals) were identical to those from other performances. No singer is that accurate...including Steve Perry. The soundwaves were also not "Doctored". Every step that was taken to examine and compare these vocals were done in public. Also included in that were instructions of how it was done, so that people who refused to believe it, could do it themselves and compare.

Other than that, I agree with you on all points, and thanks for the post!

[Eric]

Nice post....although some paragraphs would have made it much easier to read.

You have to understand that if they have a singer who was in a tribute band, it will be difficult to defend them. VERY DIFFICULT.

I will give them a chance no matter what, but will not remain a fan if they don't release new music....

[conversationpc]

Dang...I'd like to read that but that run-on paragraph is freakin' huge.

[Rhiannon]

Dang...I'd like to read that but that run-on paragraph is freakin' huge.

Quite intimidating to the format-friendly, huh?

[ArnelRox]

Dang...I'd like to read that but that run-on paragraph is freakin' huge.

Yeah I couldn't get thru it either. Joe says I'm too wordy. But that took the prize.

[conversationpc]

Dang...I'd like to read that but that run-on paragraph is freakin' huge.

Quite intimidating to the format-friendly, huh?

I would've blown a few neurons trying to read that...Can't afford any more lapses in the good ol' synapses these days.

[Foolish Heart]

Nick, thanks for the post and welcome to the forum. It's always good to see youth embracing Journey.

I'd like to explain why you see so much angst and animosity here toward the band.

A whole lot of the people here have been Journey fans for a long long time, some since the 70's. We grew up with it, fell in love with it, and really admired the band members for giving us such great quality music. The earliest I saw them was in '81 on the Escape tour. I was 18. Now I'm nearly 45. Journey has been along for some of the best times in my life and for a long time. When you develop such a connection with a band that spans decades and then you begin to see the erosion, it really takes a toll on you. It's akin to, but not nearly as important as, seeing our country turning to shit like it has been. It makes you angry, hurt & bitter. We've seen the guys we held in such high esteem for so long, treat people like throw aways. Perry, Augeri and now Jeff all have fallen to the same fate because of the same people. It starts really digging in. We stay and hope for the best and support the band year after year and they continue to kick their fans and members in the nuts with their decisions and behavior.

So, it's been going on for a good long time now and we keep sticking around, hoping this time will be different, and we will get our once great band back. We keep thinking that and hoping, and they keep knocking us back to the canvas.

I know it's just a band and we shouldn't take a band so seriously. That much is painfully true, but we do it anyway because back in the day, they gave us something really special that we don't want to, or are not ready to let go of. But they are making it almost impossible not to.

This is a great post.

[Rhiannon]

Dang...I'd like to read that but that run-on paragraph is freakin' huge.

Quite intimidating to the format-friendly, huh?

I would've blown a few neurons trying to read that...Can't afford any more lapses in the good ol' synapses these days.

Its okay, we can send Igor after Hans Delbruck's brain.

[Soto All The Way]

I can't even read the fucking thing......It's all a run on and a bunch of non sense......

Learn how to write on a computer, use comma's, periods and semi-colons and get back to us.........

e-

[Monker]

Hey man,

Great post! I agree 100% about the negative posts. I didn't mind it the first few days/weeks, but it's almost become a joke! While I have to admit, I think some of the pictures you people post crack me up, I wish some of the negativity would make it's way outta here!

I do have to disagree on one point though...Tapegate. It was not a bogus claim. The soundwaves were examined in a public forum for all to see, and proved without a shadow of a doubt that they (Augeri's lead stage vocals) were identical to those from other performances. No singer is that accurate...including Steve Perry. The soundwaves were also not "Doctored". Every step that was taken to examine and compare these vocals were done in public. Also included in that were instructions of how it was done, so that people who refused to believe it, could do it themselves and compare.

Other than that, I agree with you on all points, and thanks for the post!

Here is the problem I have with this stance....

From Journey's earliest time of existence what happened to JSS has happened to others. In fact, it compares just as well as to what happened to Fleischman as to what happened to Perry or Augeri. Fleischman was fired, Aynsley was fired, Ross and Steve Smith were fired and rehired. Even Herbie was basicaly fired. Perry basicaly fired the entire band after ROR and his face reentering the atmosphere. Chalfant, Rolie, and Herbie were screwed around with prior to TBF. Perry was fired. Augeri was fired. Twenty sonething years of members of Journey being screwed around with and only now Jon and Neal are hated. It's almost amusing to watch, in a sick way.

I think the FANS finally feel like they were dicked around with...even though they have been played as fools for years now. Now that they feel it, they are just blowing up all over the place. Like some wise old frog said, "Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?" Lots of people here were following the words of the foolish.

[Monker]

Dang...I'd like to read that but that run-on paragraph is freakin' huge.

Quite intimidating to the format-friendly, huh?

I would've blown a few neurons trying to read that...Can't afford any more lapses in the good ol' synapses these days.

Its okay, we can send Igor after Hans Delbruck's brain.

What would he do with a brain if he had one?

[Soto All The Way]

Hey man,

Great post! I agree 100% about the negative posts. I didn't mind it the first few days/weeks, but it's almost become a joke! While I have to admit, I think some of the pictures you people post crack me up, I wish some of the negativity would make it's way outta here!

I do have to disagree on one point though...Tapegate. It was not a bogus claim. The soundwaves were examined in a public forum for all to see, and proved without a shadow of a doubt that they (Augeri's lead stage vocals) were identical to those from other performances. No singer is that accurate...including Steve Perry. The soundwaves were also not "Doctored". Every step that was taken to examine and compare these vocals were done in public. Also included in that were instructions of how it was done, so that people who refused to believe it, could do it themselves and compare.

Other than that, I agree with you on all points, and thanks for the post!

Here is the problem I have with this stance....

From Journey's earliest time of existence what happened to JSS has happened to others. In fact, it compares just as well as to what happened to Fleischman as to what happened to Perry or Augeri. Fleischman was fired, Aynsley was fired, Ross and Steve Smith were fired and rehired. Even Herbie was basicaly fired. Perry basicaly fired the entire band after ROR and his face reentering the atmosphere. Chalfant, Rolie, and Herbie were screwed around with prior to TBF. Perry was fired. Augeri was fired. Twenty sonething years of members of Journey being screwed around with and only now Jon and Neal are hated. It's almost amusing to watch, in a sick way.

I think the FANS finally feel like they were dicked around with...even though they have been played as fools for years now. Now that they feel it, they are just blowing up all over the place. Like some wise old frog said, "Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?" Lots of people here were following the words of the foolish.

You know, that's pretty much in a nutshell and I think u need to quit looking for a solution, a reason or a purpose as to why the two dickheads did what they did.....End of story!!!

e-

[squirt1]

Nick, welcome. All I can say is if you have never seen Perry live, then you missed out big time. At least you can catch up on the Houston DVD and other You Tube songs. That is why fans have NEVER forgot him since '98 and would pay almost anything to see them together again. Augeri just was nowhere near the guy. Now, Jeff had even started to win over old fans like me. It is such a shame for you young fans, but catch up and you will see what all the yrs of lively discussions and a few knock down drag outs were about.

[Voyager]

Nick,

This is what happens when a band gets momentum going and then loses two lead singers within a few years. They bail out, and leave forums like this filled with people ready to post about something. Since there is nothing good to post about, instead of just going home and signing off of our computers until the band reforms - we just post about random bullshit, which can easily go off the deep end. The more we shock ourselves with random off-the-wall insanity, the more we feel alive and part of something bigger than ourselves.

Hope this helps you make sense of what is happening here.

P.S. - Sometimes my brother and I play catch to bring about the same feelings of being alive that this forum brings to us. See my avatar. Gotta go - it's time for my meds.

[conversationpc]

Dang...I'd like to read that but that run-on paragraph is freakin' huge.

Quite intimidating to the format-friendly, huh?

I would've blown a few neurons trying to read that...Can't afford any more lapses in the good ol' synapses these days.

Its okay, we can send Igor after Hans Delbruck's brain.

What would he do with a brain if he had one?

Monker, that's the question that's plagued the rest of the forum in regards to you for time on end.

[ArnelRox]

What would he do with a brain if he had one?

Monker, that's the question that's plagued the rest of the forum in regards to you for time on end.

Now THAT's funny

[Monker]

What would he do with a brain if he had one?

Monker, that's the question that's plagued the rest of the forum in regards to you for time on end.

I could while away the hours
Postin' with such power
Leavin' you in pain
And your head, you'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain.

I'd unravel ev'ry riddle
about Neal and his fiddle
and on to Jonathan Cain

With the thoughts I'd be thinkin'
You'd know I wasn't drinkin',
If you only had a brain.

Oh, I could tell you why
Generation's such a bore,
I could think of things I never thunk before
And then I'd sit and think some more.

Journey's now a nuffin'
Better build them a coffin
Bring an end to their pain
You could dance and be merry
They'll never bring back Perry
If I only had a brain

(Now, you don't think I hoped somebody would say something like that, do you? Heh.)

[G.I.Jim]

What would he do with a brain if he had one?

Monker, that's the question that's plagued the rest of the forum in regards to you for time on end.

I could while away the hours
Postin' with such power
Leavin' you in pain
And your head, you'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain.

I'd unravel ev'ry riddle
about Neal and his fiddle
and on to Jonathan Cain

With the thoughts I'd be thinkin'
You'd know I wasn't drinkin',
If you only had a brain.

Oh, I could tell you why
Generation's such a bore,
I could think of things I never thunk before
And then I'd sit and think some more.

Journey's now a nuffin'
Better build them a coffin
Bring an end to their pain
You could dance and be merry
They'll never bring back Perry
If I only had a brain

(Now, you don't think I hoped somebody would say something like that, do you? Heh.)

That was funny as hell Monker! Lol!!!

[ArnelRox]

(Now, you don't think I hoped somebody would say something like that, do you? Heh.)

Why Britt, I had no idea u were so witty! Thanks for the laugh dude. How long have u been saving this up?

[PianoMan1986]

:cry:

Well, I'm a first-time poster with this message, but that's not to imply that I'm a first-time visitor. I won't beat around the bush because I have no reason to waste your time with this bulletin. Basically I just want to voice my opinion that I'm tired of all the negativity and venom being spewed on this board that I was under the impression to spark interest and support for a band that we love and enjoy. Now I realize that nothing says I "have" to come here or "have" to read anything on this forum, but I'd like to hold out for the day that uplifting topics and news reappear on this forum. Maybe I missed it back near the beginning of this outlash, but what's Andrew's take on things and where does he stand since initially I viewed him to be quite the Journey advocate? Maybe the readers are asking, "Didn't the events of Jeff Scott Soto negatively affect you?" In response, yes they came as quite a surprise 1) having only seen Jeff perform once (and being blown away for that matter), 2) the success of the last tour, and 3) the hype of new life being breathed into the band as well as talk of the label backing this lineup.

Was I around when Steve Perry was with the band? No, I was born in 1986 and didn't really start following Journey until about 1999 (my first show being the "Under the Radar Tour"). I didn't intend to throw this into this topic, but I might as well since it's crossed my mind: "Why are people so hellbent on Steve Perry's return to the band when he's made it perfectly clear (many times over mind you) that the Journey chapter of his life is over and he's content with what he's doing?" To get back on track a little bit, I didn't agree with the departure of Steve Augeri either (and for all the nay-sayers, I don't believe that tapegate was used especially since the band released an official statement to Classic Rock magazine as well as here denying the bogus claim), but I supported the band's judgement with their decision.

Going back to all the fire that's burning on this forum (involving altered views, rediculous profile images, etc.), we've all seen various changes with this band and have managed to support them as long as the band keeps going, so what makes this time any different? For what it's worth, I checked out the clips of Jeremy's performances on some of the tunes and although the sound quality due to the audience wasn't great, I still couldn't believe my ears; personally I think he'd be great for the job (and even though many will consider this choice of words to be shooting myself in the foot) as long as his voice sustains itself as it seems too in those videos and he's up for the job. Will we ever know the real truth as to what's happened within this band, most likely not.

Realistically what I care about is that they still go out having fun and putting on decent shows for the generations that go to see them because I'm left asking myself (being shy of 21 years old), "What am I going to do when this band and many similar bands of the time throw in the towel? Will I have to settle for listening to the recordings, or will someone else come along to carry on the torch?" It's a weak plea, but please stop this hate and negativity that's going on. Has anyone stopped in the midst of all this to wonder why the band hasn't posted or stated anything? Maybe it's because they themselves are tired of all this and are waiting in hopes that things will cool down (the sooner the better). No matter who you want to point fingers at with this, it's obviously struck the band and the fans, a trial by fire (sorry, but it seemed to fit). Sorry to get cheesy or sappy on you, but I think it's about time that we look toward tomorrow and face whatever's going to happen.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this. I only posted with the best of intentions and not to encourage anymore dispute on this forum, in the event that I have, I do apologize.

Still a fan,

Nick

Sincerest apologies in regard to the challenge of reading my original post...basically I was just typing as things came to mind and didn't stop. Thank you for all of the positive replies thus far and look forward to hopefully reading more.

PS - Yes, I've seen the Houston & Greatest Hits DVDs and I understand where you're coming from...I can watch them, but understand that for me, I wasn't there and I don't have any way to experience that so I have to go off of my own concert memories no matter how you view them.

[ArnelRox]

Now that this has paragraph breaks, I can read it! I have a few comments.

Perry: Why do we keep on wanting him back? B/c he was absolutely incredible & NO ONE is like him. B/c he's the lead singer we all knew & many bands are getting back together w/their classic lineups.

Tapegate Denials in ClassicRock Mag: Read VERY carefully what they denied. They denied using taped vox in 2006 on their tour w/DL. No one ever said they did. In fact, poor SA performed in TERRIBLE shape. They didn't deny EVER using tapes.

The truth: Will we ever know? Have u read Marcel Jacob's blog on the Talisman MySpace page? Have u read Brian May of Queen's blog? Have u read RockinDeano's blog (a member here who is friends w/Jeff)? I think the truth lays w/in.

Why hasn't the band posted here: They never have. The only one who posted here was Jeff. A better question might be why is their website down? Why is BT down?

Finally, why are we still angry? B/c we feel duped by the band twice inside a year.

I've never seen Perry w/Journey live either. I've got a LOT of video & sound boots. I HAVE experienced what that was like from those. AMAZING. I did see Perry live solo twice. I can't put that into words!

It's nice to see a young man w/good taste in music. I'm sorry u joined us at such a rotten time in Journey's history.