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Postby 7 Wishes » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:06 am

Neal CAN shred if he wants to...when he wants to. He can do ANYTHING. Enough already from the 'haters. Open up your fuckin' ears.

Larry, you're a very gifted player. I'd love to collaborate with you someday. I've only worked with a couple of guys as talented as you, in all my years in the biz. Keep it up.
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:20 am

G.I.Jim wrote:As I said in a previous post, I think Neal is one of the greatest and most under-appreciated players around. With that said, I have to say that there are some other kick-ass players out there! While I don't know if I'd say he was "better", this is hands down my favorite solo of all time, by Key Marcello of Europe (formerly that is!). His playing on the Superstitious album is mind-blowing!!!

I know the video's a little cheesy, but if you don't like it...the solo starts at around 2:45. Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOetaP5fIIQ


Sharp vocals, along with the great guitar solo.
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:37 am

Naughtius Maximus wrote:Neal CAN shred if he wants to...when he wants to. He can do ANYTHING. Enough already from the 'haters. Open up your fuckin' ears.


Tell it like it is brother!

Just because a lot of people are pissed at Neal right now they are trying to convince themselves that he's not that great.

I've never heard a style that Neal can't play like the master that he is.
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Re: larryfromnextdoor Schon

Postby G.I.Jim » Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:51 pm

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epresley wrote:Now Larry, tell me again who sold you your first guitar, the red Kramer??????????????????? :)


:D .. yep , it was you!! red kramer guitar and levi strap..(still use the strap today) for $100 bucks.. i wish i had it back ,, it played great and could take a lickin! .. you taught me how to play Shake ME by Cinderella.. :shock: , and KISS -Escape from the Island..... THANKS MAN!! :wink:
p.s.-- your still the only band ive ever seen with a real COW BELL on stage and being played!!!! :lol:


I've GOTTA have more cowbell!!!
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Postby CatEyes » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:57 pm

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Postby KCfla » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:14 pm

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Perrylover wrote:
Socratic Methodist wrote:And just who is this Stephen Ray PERREIRA?.....cause you know Perry ain't his real last name.... :lol:


Technically, Perry is his real last name. Perreira was his family name that was changed to Perry when they moved to the U.S., which was before he was born.

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Wow...talk about shunning your heritage. I guess they didn't want to be portuguese....

I live in the largest Portuguese community in the USA, Fall River/New Bedford, MA.....there are more than enough Perreiras to make up for his name change.....and Furtados, Chaves, Alves, Ferreiras, Dias, Medeiros, Mello, Oliveira, Costa, Benevides, and Cordeiro..... :lol:


*Caution- threadjack*

It depends on WHEN his family came over. If it was in the very beginning of the 1900's ( or earlier), it could have been the immigration agents themselves that changed it on them. My husband's family came over in the 1910's, and their name was changed without their consent. Strickly because the agent on hand thought their name was "too hard to pronounce". And they were basically told that they either use the "new" name- or they would not be granted entrance into America . So they went with it- they had no choice really!

Later on, some authorities stepped in and it was frowned upon to change the names. I have friends that lived in your neck of the woods- and yes, many have kept their Portuguese names. But many of them came over in the 30's and later- It just wasn't done then.

So it depends on where/when/who was in place when Perry's family immigrated. If they had an agent like I described above- that could be the reason.

*end threadjack* :)
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Postby Granny » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:10 am

nikkib703 wrote:Someone posted this on another thread a couple of months back, but it deserves another post. Say what you want about Neal, but he can throw it down when he wants to. Great live performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MmVNfI1 ... ed&search=


Shame he is such a dick...but he sure can play that THANG!!!!!!
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:12 am

Sucks that all these people know Neal Schon and I don't.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:56 am

Naughtius Maximus wrote:Neal CAN shred if he wants to...when he wants to. He can do ANYTHING. Enough already from the 'haters. Open up your fuckin' ears.

Larry, you're a very gifted player. I'd love to collaborate with you someday. I've only worked with a couple of guys as talented as you, in all my years in the biz. Keep it up.


thanks man! but its really all smoke and mirrors.. straight up the Em scale 3 or 4 times and a Frehley/Richrath lick here and there...

dude,, phunky phyllis just told me that you are 7 Wishes /DAN... i had no idea you changed your name,, i thought you were on vacation or something !!!! ive been wondering where you were at ?!! people.. stop changing your dang names!! 8)
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:59 am

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Postby Blueskies » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:20 pm

JR (Susie) wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:dude,, phunky phyllis just told me that you are 7 Wishes /DAN... i had no idea you changed your name,, i thought you were on vacation or something !!!! ive been wondering where you were at ?!! people.. stop changing your dang names!! 8)


phunky phyllis :lol:

I had no idea it was 7 Wishes either. Ooh & he said he had respect for me. What a sweetie!
that'd be me :lol: you going to SB?

Opps, I blew your cover Daniel. :wink: ... but as you can see it's Paco Larry's fault. :P :lol:
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Postby Blueskies » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:24 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Naughtius Maximus wrote:Neal CAN shred if he wants to...when he wants to. He can do ANYTHING. Enough already from the 'haters. Open up your fuckin' ears.

Larry, you're a very gifted player. I'd love to collaborate with you someday. I've only worked with a couple of guys as talented as you, in all my years in the biz. Keep it up.


thanks man! but its really all smoke and mirrors.. straight up the Em scale 3 or 4 times and a Frehley/Richrath lick here and there...

dude,, phunky phyllis just told me that you are 7 Wishes /DAN... i had no idea you changed your name,, i thought you were on vacation or something !!!! ive been wondering where you were at ?!! people.. stop changing your dang names!! 8)
quit being so dang modest! Your that good so take your kudos like a man. :wink: :lol:
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Are you kidding!!

Postby aorgeneral » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:03 am

First I agree that Neal is just trying to shred way too much these days. His pentatonic warbling and overused sustainer is killing his tone and is unnecessary at best. He is very repetitious these days. Secondly and no offense to Larry from next door, but really, based on the you better wait i think you need to get your hearing checked. the playing is not bad but it is not the cleanest playing I have ever heard.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:32 pm

TVL wrote:
Opps, I blew your cover Daniel. :wink: ... but as you can see it's Paco Larry's fault. :P :lol:


Damn. My Guy Incognito disguise only worked for a couple of weeks.
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Postby chf34jmac » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:37 pm

Yo! I was wondering what the fuck happened to you 7. Nice to know you're still here. :D
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Re: Are you kidding!!

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:01 pm

aorgeneral wrote:First I agree that Neal is just trying to shred way too much these days. His pentatonic warbling and overused sustainer is killing his tone and is unnecessary at best. He is very repetitious these days. Secondly and no offense to Larry from next door, but really, based on the you better wait i think you need to get your hearing checked. the playing is not bad but it is not the cleanest playing I have ever heard.


:lol: none taken ,, i like it dirty! :wink: ....the guitar sound that is,, strap hanging real low ,, none of this strapped up around your chest and jazz playing..

btw.. 24 posts in a year? unacceptable..
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Re: Are you kidding!!

Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:56 pm

aorgeneral wrote: Secondly and no offense to Larry from next door, but really, based on the you better wait i think you need to get your hearing checked. the playing is not bad but it is not the cleanest playing I have ever heard.



What an assholeic statement.
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Re: Neal is not the greatest guitar player

Postby lights1961 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:27 am

JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.

Then I listened to the track our own Larry From Next Door did w/Jeremey singing. U know what Larry is a better guitarist than Neal these days. Seriously. Neal no longer plays w/feeling. He just shreds now. He's gone downhill all the way.

I was also checking out the FTLOSM boots. Lincoln Brewster is amazing on those Journey songs. He played them respectfully & really well. Comparing those boots w/more recent Journey boots, I just get the feeling that Neal just rushes thru them to get a paycheck these days.


SORRY JR (Susie) disagree here...
NEAL is the BEST always ---he will be the greeatist guitarist that know one knew... he just never got his props during the hey dey, because Journey was always considered CORP ROCK... and media hated corp rock!! Perry over shawdowed Schon, because Steve's VOICE was the best in the biz...that no one gave credit too either.. THE CURSE OF BEING LABELED CORP ROCK...

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Re: Neal is not the greatest guitar player

Postby maverick218 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:38 am

JR (Susie) wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.


I love Yngwie's playing but the only thing you can say about him is that his technique is superior to Neals...perhaps. However, who's better than who is subjective.


Yngwie has remained consistently AWESOME for what like 25 years? Don't u think Neal just shreds now? It's not the same passionate way it sounded when Perry was there.

I feel the same way (shredding)- to me, it's like he is trying to catch up playing fast for all those years he had to reign things in.
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Re: Neal is not the greatest guitar player

Postby heardonthestreet » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:56 am

maverick218 wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.


I love Yngwie's playing but the only thing you can say about him is that his technique is superior to Neals...perhaps. However, who's better than who is subjective.


Yngwie has remained consistently AWESOME for what like 25 years? Don't u think Neal just shreds now? It's not the same passionate way it sounded when Perry was there.

I feel the same way (shredding)- to me, it's like he is trying to catch up playing fast for all those years he had to reign things in.






Those years that he had to reign it in were the years that he will be remembered for. Those solo's from the Classic Journey years show control and stability. What he's doing now is showing a reckless overindulgence.
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Re: Neal is not the greatest guitar player

Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:59 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Those years that he had to reign it in were the years that he will be remembered for. Those solo's from the Classic Journey years show control and stability. What he's doing now is showing a reckless overindulgence.


Reckless overindulgence. Very reminiscent of your posting style. :lol:

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Re: Neal is not the greatest guitar player

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:42 am

conversationpc wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:Those years that he had to reign it in were the years that he will be remembered for. Those solo's from the Classic Journey years show control and stability. What he's doing now is showing a reckless overindulgence.


Reckless overindulgence. Very reminiscent of your posting style. :lol:

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isnt it reckless abandon?? 8) steve perry - mtv 1986
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Re: Neal is not the greatest guitar player

Postby heardonthestreet » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:50 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:Those years that he had to reign it in were the years that he will be remembered for. Those solo's from the Classic Journey years show control and stability. What he's doing now is showing a reckless overindulgence.


Reckless overindulgence. Very reminiscent of your posting style. :lol:

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isnt it reckless abandon?? 8) steve perry - mtv 1986




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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:12 pm

Geez...Neal's tone is more refined than ever. He's been into this sound since "Backlash"...did you ever hear the intro "Savage Blue"? That is pure brilliance. I'd kill to be able to write that kind of stuff.

Earth calling Neal Bashers...get over it. The guy's one of the ten best. Period.
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Postby AR » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:17 pm

Naughtius Maximus wrote:Geez...Neal's tone is more refined than ever. He's been into this sound since "Backlash"...did you ever hear the intro "Savage Blue"? That is pure brilliance. I'd kill to be able to write that kind of stuff.

Earth calling Neal Bashers...get over it. The guy's one of the ten best. Period.


You're right. I don't know what I was thinking and I humbly apologize for anything I've ever said abut the great Mr. Neal Schon and his abilities. He's a scholar and a gentleman.

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Postby Rick » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:21 pm

Naughtius Maximus wrote:Geez...Neal's tone is more refined than ever. He's been into this sound since "Backlash"...did you ever hear the intro "Savage Blue"? That is pure brilliance. I'd kill to be able to write that kind of stuff.

Earth calling Neal Bashers...get over it. The guy's one of the ten best. Period.


He is great, but as hard as I try and as far as I search, he's not listed as being any better than 23rd of all time rock guitarists. Jimi Hendrix is always number 1 though.
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:27 pm

Rick wrote:
Naughtius Maximus wrote:Geez...Neal's tone is more refined than ever. He's been into this sound since "Backlash"...did you ever hear the intro "Savage Blue"? That is pure brilliance. I'd kill to be able to write that kind of stuff.

Earth calling Neal Bashers...get over it. The guy's one of the ten best. Period.


He is great, but as hard as I try and as far as I search, he's not listed as being any better than 23rd of all time rock guitarists. Jimi Hendrix is always number 1 though.


Is Stevie Ray Vaughn in the top 10?
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Postby Rick » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:30 pm

JH'sTXfan wrote:
Rick wrote:
Naughtius Maximus wrote:Geez...Neal's tone is more refined than ever. He's been into this sound since "Backlash"...did you ever hear the intro "Savage Blue"? That is pure brilliance. I'd kill to be able to write that kind of stuff.

Earth calling Neal Bashers...get over it. The guy's one of the ten best. Period.


He is great, but as hard as I try and as far as I search, he's not listed as being any better than 23rd of all time rock guitarists. Jimi Hendrix is always number 1 though.


Is Stevie Ray Vaughn in the top 10?


He ranked number 6 on the page that ranked Neal at 23rd.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/b ... uitar.html

Not sure how competent this site is though.
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:32 pm

Rick wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Rick wrote:
Naughtius Maximus wrote:Geez...Neal's tone is more refined than ever. He's been into this sound since "Backlash"...did you ever hear the intro "Savage Blue"? That is pure brilliance. I'd kill to be able to write that kind of stuff.

Earth calling Neal Bashers...get over it. The guy's one of the ten best. Period.


He is great, but as hard as I try and as far as I search, he's not listed as being any better than 23rd of all time rock guitarists. Jimi Hendrix is always number 1 though.


Is Stevie Ray Vaughn in the top 10?


He ranked number 6 on the page that ranked Neal at 23rd.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/b ... uitar.html

Not sure how competent this site is though.


I've been listening to him today. I thought he might be on that list. Thanks Rick.
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