Is THIS Journey's Answer?

[Marc S]

I love Mike Slamer - have you heard the first Seventh Key CD with 'The Sun Will Rise' - what a track???

[slucero]

Mutt is a more relevant producer... what he produces GETS PLAYED... Elson doesn't have that kinda pull... so get a fucking clue.

It's all about UNIT SALES.

Mutt WAS a relevant producer. Other than Shania Twain's albums, what has he produced recently that has sold well?

I think that question will be better answered when Shania's next abum comes out... if it goes multi-platinum then Mutt may still be relevant...

[Fernando Ramirez]

I think that question will be better answered when Shania's next abum comes out... if it goes multi-platinum then Mutt may still be relevant...

I'm with you slucero...no question Shania's new one will be a success. I'd put money on it.

Mutt is STILL relevant. Even his backwork continues to sell. For example, two years ago, Shania got a plaque from the record company saying that she is the first artist in history to have 3 consecutive diamond albums.
I think that's enough proof.

[conversationpc]

I love Mike Slamer - have you heard the first Seventh Key CD with 'The Sun Will Rise' - what a track???

That song is actually from their second album, "The Raging Fire" and, yes, it is a great song as are several other songs on that album.

[JrnySuxBalls]

Wow~! You don't hear someone mention City Boy very often!

Great vocals on those albums.

[Monker]

I know what you said, but I was responding to them being a touring act. Their touring would be bolstered by a hit single. I agree that won't happen.

A 'hit' would help....that much is true.

I did really feel like they had a chance with Jeff. He's just a great frontman, and they did write some good music together. Again, whether it would be relevant in this day and age is anyones guess.

It would have never worked. Something had to give...if it had not been JSS, it would have been someone, or something, else. It was like slamming a shiny, freshly painted, new, round peg....through an overly abused, nicked up, old, round hole.

Fix the REAL problem and then get a peg that REALLY fits the hole.

[Crazie Scarab]

It would have never worked. Something had to give...if it had not been JSS, it would have been someone, or something, else. It was like slamming a shiny, freshly painted, new, round peg....through an overly abused, nicked up, old, round hole.

Fix the REAL problem and then get a peg that REALLY fits the hole.

Bullshit! You must wear your ears in your ass (arse, for the euros)! Jeff was the answer and Journey clearly fucked up. BIGTIME! And, now it's over..

[Rockindeano]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

[Monker]

It would have never worked. Something had to give...if it had not been JSS, it would have been someone, or something, else. It was like slamming a shiny, freshly painted, new, round peg....through an overly abused, nicked up, old, round hole.

Fix the REAL problem and then get a peg that REALLY fits the hole.

Bullshit! You must wear your ears in your ass (arse, for the euros)! Jeff was the answer and Journey clearly fucked up. BIGTIME! And, now it's over..

The fuckup was announcing JSS as the permanent replacement. IMO, there are issues in this band that have to be resolved BEFORE they move on. IMO, they handled the ENTIRE situation wrong...I *NEVER* believed they would record an album. I *NEVER* believed they would have some kinda breakthrough single. That is no longer what this band is about - and hasn't been FOR YEARS.

All you people who NOW criticize the band had your head up your ass when JSS was hired. Now that you finaly have taken a breath of fresh air you say Neal is this and Jonathan is that. Don't say *I* am the one with some kinda handicap when it comes to understanding this band. I saw what you see now YEARS ago.

When JSS replaced Augeri, I said the problem did not leave with Augeri. It seems to me that hardly anybody in this forum saw that. Now that YOUR one hope for Journey's 'return' has been axed you are going to argue with me that JSS was their only hope? Please, get your head out of your ass and see what is REALLY there. The problems within this band go beyond who is singing lead vocals. A singer exiting did not solve the problem...and a singer entering would not have solved it either.

[Monker]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

And, I can see that for an album, but not for a tour. If Perry is in for an album, it makes perfect sense to audition 'soundalikes' for a tour...

And, if Perry came back for an album, JSS on tour would make no sense at all...at least not to me.

[SteveForever]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

what! are you being serious.
nuttin futz!

[Crazie Scarab]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

[Saint John]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

He's no longer a non-believer....cool.

[Crazie Scarab]

It would have never worked. Something had to give...if it had not been JSS, it would have been someone, or something, else. It was like slamming a shiny, freshly painted, new, round peg....through an overly abused, nicked up, old, round hole.

Fix the REAL problem and then get a peg that REALLY fits the hole.

Bullshit! You must wear your ears in your ass (arse, for the euros)! Jeff was the answer and Journey clearly fucked up. BIGTIME! And, now it's over..

The fuckup was announcing JSS as the permanent replacement. IMO, there are issues in this band that have to be resolved BEFORE they move on. IMO, they handled the ENTIRE situation wrong...I *NEVER* believed they would record an album. I *NEVER* believed they would have some kinda breakthrough single. That is no longer what this band is about - and hasn't been FOR YEARS.

All you people who NOW criticize the band had your head up your ass when JSS was hired. Now that you finaly have taken a breath of fresh air you say Neal is this and Jonathan is that. Don't say *I* am the one with some kinda handicap when it comes to understanding this band. I saw what you see now YEARS ago.

When JSS replaced Augeri, I said the problem did not leave with Augeri. It seems to me that hardly anybody in this forum saw that. Now that YOUR one hope for Journey's 'return' has been axed you are going to argue with me that JSS was their only hope? Please, get your head out of your ass and see what is REALLY there. The problems within this band go beyond who is singing lead vocals. A singer exiting did not solve the problem...and a singer entering would not have solved it either.

I'm not denying the fact that Journey has "other" issues to deal with. However, it is of my opinion that JSS "could" have made some waves within the music industry for Journey once again. That's my only point. Period.

[Crazie Scarab]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

He's no longer a non-believer....cool.

Practice safe sex.. go fuck yourself!

[Rick]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

And, I can see that for an album, but not for a tour. If Perry is in for an album, it makes perfect sense to audition 'soundalikes' for a tour...

And, if Perry came back for an album, JSS on tour would make no sense at all...at least not to me.

I've been thinking that same thing, but Perry just made a statement a few weeks ago that he is not rejoining Journey.

[donnaplease]

I can't understand anyone thinking this whole "SP recording, but someone else touring" idea would actually work. No offense meant to anyone who has suggested it, but I don't know if I would support something like that. It kinda seems fraudulent to me, even though I would know it's someone other than SP up there on stage.

I would LOVE to see SP back on stage, but I don't think even I'M loony enough to think it would be good for him to do. Too much sewer refuse under the bridge...

[Crazie Scarab]

Not so fast. Monker may be correct here. I am not so sure Jeff was the answer. I am starting to think this Perry returning stuff might actually happen.

And, I can see that for an album, but not for a tour. If Perry is in for an album, it makes perfect sense to audition 'soundalikes' for a tour...

And, if Perry came back for an album, JSS on tour would make no sense at all...at least not to me.

Doesn't matter to me. In this example, I'd buy the album, but pass on the tour... no matter even if whoever it is sounds "a lot like" Perry. It's either the real deal or a new direction, as far as I'm concerned.

[Crazie Scarab]

I can't understand anyone thinking this whole "SP recording, but someone else touring" idea would actually work. No offense meant to anyone who has suggested it, but I don't know if I would support something like that. It kinda seems fraudulent to me, even though I would know it's someone other than SP up there on stage.

I would LOVE to see SP back on stage, but I don't think even I'M loony enough to think it would be good for him to do. Too much sewer refuse under the bridge...

It would be almost like tapegate, would it not? To me it would.

[donnaplease]

I can't understand anyone thinking this whole "SP recording, but someone else touring" idea would actually work. No offense meant to anyone who has suggested it, but I don't know if I would support something like that. It kinda seems fraudulent to me, even though I would know it's someone other than SP up there on stage.

I would LOVE to see SP back on stage, but I don't think even I'M loony enough to think it would be good for him to do. Too much sewer refuse under the bridge...

It would be almost like tapegate, would it not? To me it would.

Kinda reminds me of one of those "Sesame Street Live" or Disney World shows (or whatever example you want to use). It would be just someone in a costume up there, playing a part. IDK. I don't think I could get on board with that. But that's just me.

[Rockindeano]

I can't understand anyone thinking this whole "SP recording, but someone else touring" idea would actually work. No offense meant to anyone who has suggested it, but I don't know if I would support something like that. It kinda seems fraudulent to me, even though I would know it's someone other than SP up there on stage.

I would LOVE to see SP back on stage, but I don't think even I'M loony enough to think it would be good for him to do. Too much sewer refuse under the bridge...

It would be almost like tapegate, would it not? To me it would.

Kinda reminds me of one of those "Sesame Street Live" or Disney World shows (or whatever example you want to use). It would be just someone in a costume up there, playing a part. IDK. I don't think I could get on board with that. But that's just me.

But you can support Jeremey as lead singer of Journey? A clone of SP? Hmm

[Monker]

I've been thinking that same thing, but Perry just made a statement a few weeks ago that he is not rejoining Journey.

And, a few months before he joined the TBF reunion, he said the same thing...

Throw the statements out the window. The only sensible thing is for Journey is to ask Perry to record an album. Make it obvious to everybody involved that is NO expectation that he tours...and that Journey can tour with somebody that they choose.

If that doesn't happen...and it is really up to Perry...well, it's the same old path this band has gone down for at least five years. They'll tour GH's. They will pair up with other 80's bands for a nostalgia tour. They'll go on "Even Further Under the Radar" tours. Or, they can quit. Perry recording an album is their best option.

Will Perry do it? I'm not betting on it...But, I'm not going to exclude that possibility because of what Journey did to Chalfant, Rolie, Herbie and TBF. I'm sure they would sell their souls, if they haven't already for other reasons, to get Perry back in the band...anybody who thinks they wouldn't let Perry any where near Journey underestimate the seductive power of money and attention.

[Monker]

I can't understand anyone thinking this whole "SP recording, but someone else touring" idea would actually work. No offense meant to anyone who has suggested it, but I don't know if I would support something like that. It kinda seems fraudulent to me, even though I would know it's someone other than SP up there on stage.

I would LOVE to see SP back on stage, but I don't think even I'M loony enough to think it would be good for him to do. Too much sewer refuse under the bridge...

I understand. But, the band doesn't give a damn about us. What they give a damn about are the "Oh, Perry is singing for Journey again? I'm going to buy that album..." They, and Sony or other labels, care about them because they come in a hell of a lot larger numbers then the people on this forum.

As for the touring thing...If Perry would just come out and say, "recording is one thing...but, I'm really not up for the whole touring thing any longer...and I don't have a problem with the band touring with someone else. They've been doing it for years now anyway..." I think people will generaly accept that...at least those who actually hear it.

[styxman]

I can't understand anyone thinking this whole "SP recording, but someone else touring" idea would actually work. No offense meant to anyone who has suggested it, but I don't know if I would support something like that. It kinda seems fraudulent to me, even though I would know it's someone other than SP up there on stage.

I would LOVE to see SP back on stage, but I don't think even I'M loony enough to think it would be good for him to do. Too much sewer refuse under the bridge...

I understand. But, the band doesn't give a damn about us. What they give a damn about are the "Oh, Perry is singing for Journey again? I'm going to buy that album..." They, and Sony or other labels, care about them because they come in a hell of a lot larger numbers then the people on this forum.

As for the touring thing...If Perry would just come out and say, "recording is one thing...but, I'm really not up for the whole touring thing any longer...and I don't have a problem with the band touring with someone else. They've been doing it for years now anyway..." I think people will generaly accept that...at least those who actually hear it.

Do you mean Perry records with Journey while they tour with someone else or he throws out a solo CD. Even a solo recording would increase Journey sales. I'm sure Grace Slick did this with Starship on and off didn't she, while they toured without her and she gave up on the business....I don't think it worked for them but I might be wrong!

[Marc S]

JrnySuxBalls


Wow~! You don't hear someone mention City Boy very often! Wink

Great vocals on those albums

Steve Broughton, Edgar Broughton's brother, yes great vocals and great band for the time.