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Postby SteveForever » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:01 am

livin2do wrote:You want to protect Journey's legacy? Your next step needs to include Steve Perry. Do one big farewell tour with Perry singing. You'll make millions. If that's not an option, see if he would agree to one show and a DVD release. Again, millions.

The only other version of the band I would pay to see at this point is if you went out with the formation that was talked about before Perry came back in '96 - with Chalfant and Rolie included. Steve Smith would be fine, but I really like Deen.


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Postby yak » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:04 am

ohsherrie wrote: Rumors start yet again hinting at the possiblity of Steve Perry returning. (Does anybody know where these rumors really come from? Image)




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Perry grows his hair, and loses weight, and talks about returning, but never does. The Loons start the rumors based on what I just mentioned.

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Postby Gordon from Edinburgh » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:34 am

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Matthew wrote:5. I can't see how a new album would measure up to the 1978-1996 classics...


Correction...1978-1983.

"Arrival" is better than either ROR or TBF, though there are a few good tunes on each.


It is not! No Perry (or maybe JSS) means - no magic. arrival was just a decent album that could have been by one of many bands - it did not have the Journey magic - but then, i like ROR and TBF the most........
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:39 am

livin2do wrote:You want to protect Journey's legacy? Your next step needs to include Steve Perry. Do one big farewell tour with Perry singing. You'll make millions. If that's not an option, see if he would agree to one show and a DVD release. Again, millions.

The only other version of the band I would pay to see at this point is if you went out with the formation that was talked about before Perry came back in '96 - with Chalfant and Rolie included. Steve Smith would be fine, but I really like Deen.



Deen brings nothing to Journey other than a decent emergency backup singer. Deen is WAY out of his league trying to drum for this band. He can play the sounds of Smith admirably, but his original drumming in Journey has been nothing short of terrible. IF Perry ever came back Deen would be gome immediately.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:43 am

Saint John wrote:IF Perry ever came back Deen would be gome immediately.


Bah.

Deen knows how to play to a guitarist. :)
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:46 am

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Saint John wrote:IF Perry ever came back Deen would be gome immediately.


Bah.

Deen knows how to play to a guitarist. :)



Actually, I think Deen's days are numbered. Prediction: Deen Castronovo is not with Journey at the end of 2008.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:50 am

Well, dude good luck.

I hope this is more accurate than your quarterly announcement that we will hear from Perry.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:53 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Well, dude good luck.

I hope this is more accurate than your quarterly announcement that we will hear from Perry.


The "announcement" you are referring to WAS wrong. I've admitted that and moved on. When I'm wrong I say I'm wrong. I was wrong.
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Postby Arkansas » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:54 am

Interesting. Always thought that Deen staying on would be part of a Perry deal.
I think it'd be essential to have DC singing the high harmonies that Perry no longer can. Much like he did for Augeri.
However, if there was to be a REAL reunion, then they may be obligated to offer the job to Steve Smith.

Actually, I think Deen's days are numbered. Prediction: Deen Castronovo is not with Journey at the end of 2008.


I do think that whatever Journey's course is next year, you may be right with your prediction. Just a gut feeling.


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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:14 am

Saint John wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Well, dude good luck.

I hope this is more accurate than your quarterly announcement that we will hear from Perry.


The "announcement" you are referring to WAS wrong. I've admitted that and moved on. When I'm wrong I say I'm wrong. I was wrong.


Well then say it 3-4 times for chrissake.

Precept #67 A subcategory iii of the Church Of Loondom.

"Remember, Even A Broken Clock Is Right Twice A Day.
----keep putting the word out on the street periodically that he IS coming back and then if (In Linus' Case substitue "when" fo "if") he does come back, you'll have been right.

I just don't know, San Juan how a dude as cool as yourself could be roped into it.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:23 am

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Saint John wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Well, dude good luck.

I hope this is more accurate than your quarterly announcement that we will hear from Perry.


The "announcement" you are referring to WAS wrong. I've admitted that and moved on. When I'm wrong I say I'm wrong. I was wrong.


Well then say it 3-4 times for chrissake.

Precept #67 A subcategory iii of the Church Of Loondom.

"Remember, Even A Broken Clock Is Right Twice A Day.
----keep putting the word out on the street periodically that he IS coming back and then if (In Linus' Case substitue "when" fo "if") he does come back, you'll have been right.

I just don't know, San Juan how a dude as cool as yourself could be roped into it.


Sorry man, I like my Journey creative, live and sincere to their craft. They haven't been that way since Perry was there. Call me crazy, but I miss the guy. This band is nothing without him. Since 1998 they've sold about 500,000 albums with their new lineup. At the same time, the back catalog moved approximately 10 times that. I'd say I'm not alone in my views.
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Postby ohsherrie » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:11 am

yak wrote:
ohsherrie wrote: Rumors start yet again hinting at the possiblity of Steve Perry returning. (Does anybody know where these rumors really come from? Image)




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Perry grows his hair, and loses weight, and talks about returning, but never does. The Loons start the rumors based on what I just mentioned.

Next question?


No question, a statement. Bullshit.

Yeah the comments you're referring to happen, but that messageboard chatter has been constant for almost 10 years. Perry only responds when something reaches him through his channels that run much deeper.

Like when Neal dropped hints that Perry would be making guest appearances after the WOF. :roll:
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Postby yak » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:39 am

ohsherrie wrote:No question, a statement. Bullshit.

Yeah the comments you're referring to happen, but that messageboard chatter has been constant for almost 10 years. Perry only responds when something reaches him through his channels that run much deeper.

Like when Neal dropped hints that Perry would be making guest appearances after the WOF. :roll:



Well now, how can it be both "Bullshit" and "the comments you're referring to happen?" :lol: :roll: :lol:
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Postby ohsherrie » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:07 am

yak wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:No question, a statement. Bullshit.

Yeah the comments you're referring to happen, but that messageboard chatter has been constant for almost 10 years. Perry only responds when something reaches him through his channels that run much deeper.

Like when Neal dropped hints that Perry would be making guest appearances after the WOF. :roll:



Well now, how can it be both "Bullshit" and "the comments you're referring to happen?" :lol: :roll: :lol:


The comments you're referring to happen, but they're not the rumors that Perry responds to. Those rumors come from deeper than the shit that gets blathered about on these messageboards.

I'm beginning to wonder if someone within the Journey organization(if that's not an oxymoron :roll:) isn't planting the seeds from which those rumors grow just to keep the speculation alive. Can anyone say those people are above doing such a thing? Image
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Postby yak » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:31 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
The comments you're referring to happen, but they're not the rumors that Perry responds to. Those rumors come from deeper than the shit that gets blathered about on these messageboards.

I'm beginning to wonder if someone within the Journey organization(if that's not an oxymoron :roll:) isn't planting the seeds from which those rumors grow just to keep the speculation alive. Can anyone say those people are above doing such a thing? Image


Your head must be spinning with these convoluted theories....

Perry doesn't respond to anything unless he wants to. He simply puts out a preapproved questionnaire with the same answers once a year.

Please....Get a friggin' grip on reality, will you?
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Postby CatEyes » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:22 pm

yak wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
The comments you're referring to happen, but they're not the rumors that Perry responds to. Those rumors come from deeper than the shit that gets blathered about on these messageboards.

I'm beginning to wonder if someone within the Journey organization(if that's not an oxymoron :roll:) isn't planting the seeds from which those rumors grow just to keep the speculation alive. Can anyone say those people are above doing such a thing? Image


Your head must be spinning with these convoluted theories....

Perry doesn't respond to anything unless he wants to. He simply puts out a preapproved questionnaire with the same answers once a year.

Please....Get a friggin' grip on reality, will you?


Actually, he has answered several of my questions - and no they did not include favorite color, food, or dick size.

I know at least one year he actually typed all the answers himself.

I do realize that this does not mean that he is returning to Journey or coming out of retirement, growing his hair, cutting his toenails, producing, writing, or singing anything he doesn't want to -so save the crap for someone else.

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Postby yak » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:54 am

CatEyes wrote:Actually, he has answered several of my questions - and no they did not include favorite color, food, or dick size.

I know at least one year he actually typed all the answers himself.

I do realize that this does not mean that he is returning to Journey or coming out of retirement, growing his hair, cutting his toenails, producing, writing, or singing anything he doesn't want to -so save the crap for someone else.

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Like typing is such rocket science, and anybody of Perry's stature shouldn't be doing that for himself.

My point was that he puts all these questions in front of him, and then chooses which ones he will answer. The questions he chooses are always benign; however, they are always something to make the Loons swoon, for no other reason than the fact that he chose one of THEIR questions to answer.

If somebody needed desperately to know your dick size, would you be eager to come back out in public and sing for them? If you still could, that is.
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Re: MESSAGES TO JOURNEY FROM THE FANBASE

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:06 am

1. Another singer -- we've lost interest

2. Another tour -- see above

3. Going "back" to their "legacy sound" -- Give it up. You had the glory days and they've passed. Can't recreate it and can't replicate Perry. It's sad to even try.

4. Re-recording their hits with another new singer -- DUMBEST IDEA EVER. LEAVE IT ALONE. Those songs had their shining moment and they're special for a reason. Don't shit on them by trying to make 2 more dollars off them and sticking a new voice to them. Then you really would be the ultimate Journey COVER band.

5. Recording or NOT recording newly created music -- go right ahread and record new things. nothing wrong with that.

6.. Any responsibility to preserve or protect the legacy? -- LEAVE IT ALONE. That's the responsibility. Just quit fucking with shit. It does/did just fine on it's own.

7. Any responsibility to their longtime fanbase? -- since they're already alienated most of them at one time or another, either theough the dumping of Perry, Augeri and /or Soto, there can't be much of a fanbase left to worry about, but as long as they are still planning to tour, and expect people to continue to pay to see/hear them, they absolutely have a responsibility.

8. How you view your favorite (or once-favorite) band today -- not very favorably. too much musical chairs with the singers, too much disrespect for what was, and not enough respect for what is.
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