Perry and Journey together again..........

[ohsherrie]

WTF is THAT supposed to mean? You say Frank "deserves" hip replacement because he thinks Steve Perry lied?

Hell no that's not what I meant and that's not what Karma means whether it's real or not.


WickedGail, I didn't even read enough of your post to know what the hell you're talking about in your reply, and I don't intend to do so in order to reply to your relply. There ya go.

[PROPERRY]

Well I DO believe Perry had hip surgery!! It shows NO class when people throw these kind of rediculous remarks out here about someone they don't even know personally.

[froy]

Well I DO believe Perry had hip surgery!! It shows NO class when people throw these kind of rediculous remarks out here about someone they don't even know personally.

So you believe his hip surgery ended his singing career?

[Saint John]

Well I DO believe Perry had hip surgery!! It shows NO class when people throw these kind of rediculous remarks out here about someone they don't even know personally.

Just as it's ridiculous to stick up for someone you don't even know. Not passing judgment on Steve Perry, just pointing out a gaping hole in your argument.

[PROPERRY]

Well I DO believe Perry had hip surgery!! It shows NO class when people throw these kind of rediculous remarks out here about someone they don't even know personally.

So you believe his hip surgery ended his singing career?

NO, the hip surgury did NOT end his singing career, because obvisiously he HAS been singing with other artist such as David Pack, Jeff Golub, The band GUFF, and Nuno Bettencourt said that he was WRITING songs with him, and this has been WELL AFTER his hip surgery.

[Playitloudforme]

There wasn't a hip injury...no need to remain skeptical....just don't fucking believe it!!! Trust me, the hip injury was complete bullshit dreamt up to not have to tour.

I respectfully disagree. I personally know people who personally knew and hung with Perry during that time. His hip was toast, and he had the surgery.

[Saint John]

Well I DO believe Perry had hip surgery!! It shows NO class when people throw these kind of rediculous remarks out here about someone they don't even know personally.

So you believe his hip surgery ended his singing career?

NO, the hip surgury did NOT end his singing career, because obvisiously he HAS been singing with other artist such as David Pack, Jeff Golub, The band GUFF, and Nuno Bettencourt said that he was WRITING songs with him, and this has been WELL AFTER his hip surgery.

Steve's "career" ("Occupation or profession" as defined by Webster) was made in Journey and his solo efforts. What you listed above is neither a career nor a profession. I'd say his career either ended or was put on hold with FTLOSM, but please don't feed us the Pack, Golub, Guff and Nuno nonsense as a continuation of his career.

[PROPERRY]

Well I DO believe Perry had hip surgery!! It shows NO class when people throw these kind of rediculous remarks out here about someone they don't even know personally.

Just as it's ridiculous to stick up for someone you don't even know. Not passing judgment on Steve Perry, just pointing out a gaping hole in your argument.

Well yea SJ , I don't know Perry Personally, but I still believe Perry had hip surgery! What I DON'T do is go spreading crap on a board that is "totally opposite"of what HE has said in interviews about HIS OWN personal health issues. Totally wrong on yours and Franks part!

I suggest you & Frank start trying to climb out of that "big hole" you and frank have dug for yourselves, cause you got a long ways to go to climb up!

[ohsherrie]

There wasn't a hip injury...no need to remain skeptical....just don't fucking believe it!!! Trust me, the hip injury was complete bullshit dreamt up to not have to tour.

Wrong. I know for a fact that Steve's hip injury/surgery was very real. What is bullshit is that people continually put this shit out there when they have no clue. Well, I do have a clue so you can believe me or not. Not aiming this solely at you Frank but this crap pisses me off. Now go ahead and tell me that I am a SP cheerleader who lies for him.

If his hip injury was real and it stopped him from touring 10 years ago
What's stopping him now and ever since?
Just look at the TBF interview when he said you may just see us on tour soon
Man that poker face was saying I have 4 kings when in fact he had a pair of 3's
He may have had some kind of hip adjustment but that was not the reason why there was no TBF tour,
If it was all on the up and up Neil and the other 3 guys would have waited forever for Perry to return.
Its was the act of god excuse that got him out of touring ,
No doubt about it
If Im wrong Perry would have sang somewhere on this earth live .
Prove us wrong Steve I dare you.

I think you and Lora are both right. Sadly, whatever the truth is, the fans are the ones that really lost out. I literally want to cry thinking back at how excited, then disappointed, I was during the whole TBF era. In the end, I don't even care much about what really happened because it doesn't change the fact that the most anticipated tour of my life was aborted. I just hope that they can grace the stage together one last time, be it for a tour a show or a song. The fans deserve that much. NO band has fans better than Journey.

OMG, look at these responses to Lora. There is no one who would know more about it except Steve himself and yet some are going to find some way to continue to argue the fact.

And people say the loons are the ones that are over the top.

[Saint John]

There wasn't a hip injury...no need to remain skeptical....just don't fucking believe it!!! Trust me, the hip injury was complete bullshit dreamt up to not have to tour.

Wrong. I know for a fact that Steve's hip injury/surgery was very real. What is bullshit is that people continually put this shit out there when they have no clue. Well, I do have a clue so you can believe me or not. Not aiming this solely at you Frank but this crap pisses me off. Now go ahead and tell me that I am a SP cheerleader who lies for him.

If his hip injury was real and it stopped him from touring 10 years ago
What's stopping him now and ever since?
Just look at the TBF interview when he said you may just see us on tour soon
Man that poker face was saying I have 4 kings when in fact he had a pair of 3's
He may have had some kind of hip adjustment but that was not the reason why there was no TBF tour,
If it was all on the up and up Neil and the other 3 guys would have waited forever for Perry to return.
Its was the act of god excuse that got him out of touring ,
No doubt about it
If Im wrong Perry would have sang somewhere on this earth live .
Prove us wrong Steve I dare you.

I think you and Lora are both right. Sadly, whatever the truth is, the fans are the ones that really lost out. I literally want to cry thinking back at how excited, then disappointed, I was during the whole TBF era. In the end, I don't even care much about what really happened because it doesn't change the fact that the most anticipated tour of my life was aborted. I just hope that they can grace the stage together one last time, be it for a tour a show or a song. The fans deserve that much. NO band has fans better than Journey.

OMG, look at these responses to Lora. There is no one who would know more about it except Steve himself and yet some are going to find some way to continue to argue the fact.

And people say the loons are the ones that are over the top.

WTF are you talking about? I concluded, because of Lora, that Steve did have the surgery. At the same time, I believe Froy has a very valid question/point about why Perry has let an almost 10 year old injury stop him from touring. Assuming he did have the surgery, I think it's fair to ask whether or not he did in fact use it as a crutch...no pun intended. I concluded that were both right because I think he DID have the surgery but that's NOT why he didn't tour. Comprende?

[squirt1]

My friend St John et al- Lora is correct ! Steve Smith even commented that it did happen i. My daughter had a hip replacement after an accident. She had to put 4 pints of her blood aside and it is MAJOR surgery. She will need a replacement in about 10yrs. It is alway life threatening surgery but I am sure Perry was advised to see if he could live with the pain. He will need a replacement in about 10 yrs and his age will be 78 and so...... wouldn't you have waited to see if it may not be necessary. Lora knows so all should just apoligize and shut up !

[yak]

Hell no that's not what I meant and that's not what Karma means whether it's real or not.


WickedGail, I didn't even read enough of your post to know what the hell you're talking about in your reply, and I don't intend to do so in order to reply to your relply. There ya go.

Holy shit! Who rattled your chain?


For the record, I don't believe Perry had any hip surgery, due to reasons that have been previously stated here.

Unless, of course, one of your bunch has access to his medical records.......


As for Lora, she did interviews with Steve for the Journey newsletter, and there were always errors. A blatant one was Perry's birthdate...his stated birth year was erroneous, and made him younger than he really was...Oh, or was that a typo?

Or what about the time the newsletters kept telling the fans the ROR tour was around the corner? It wasn't, and it was later revealed (not in the newsletter) that there had been dissension within the band, which ultimately resulted in the firing of Steve Smith and Ross Valory. Or doesn't that count?

[Saint John]

My friend St John et al- Lora is correct ! Steve Smith even commented that it did happen i. My daughter had a hip replacement after an accident. She had to put 4 pints of her blood aside and it is MAJOR surgery. She will need a replacement in about 10yrs. It is alway life threatening surgery but I am sure Perry was advised to see if he could live with the pain. He will need a replacement in about 10 yrs and his age will be 78 and so...... wouldn't you have waited to see if it may not be necessary. Lora knows so all should just apoligize and shut up !

I respect Lora, what she's done, and who she is (having met her) more than you'll ever know. That said, learn how to spell "apologize" and ease up with the "shut up" comments.

[ebake02]

I don't think SP can tour vocally.

I agree. I could maybe see one huge show but not much else.

[Saint John]

I don't think SP can tour vocally.

I agree. I could maybe see one huge show but not much else.

"One huge show" would work for me. I'd pay up to $5,000. And I'm NOT kidding.

[squirt1]

St John- When I said my friend, that was to exclude you from the shut up. Some on here have been down right hysterical. As for my spelling, it is my typing that I do in the semi dark and I rarely care enough to check. Nuns gave me A's in spelling ,but B's for penmanship. They told my mom that my brain worked faster than my fingers. Works for me as I never had to stay after school ! Give me another 5 yrs and this granny will spell half of the words wrong. Please don't speed me up.

[Saint John]

St John- When I said my friend, that was to exclude you from the shut up. Some on here have been down right hysterical. As for my spelling, it is my typing that I do in the semi dark and I rarely care enough to check. Nuns gave me A's in spelling ,but B's for penmanship. They told my mom that my brain worked faster than my fingers. Works for me as I never had to stay after school ! Give me another 5 yrs and this granny will spell half of the words wrong. Please don't speed me up.

I misread your post and apologize for my remark.

[ebake02]

I don't think SP can tour vocally.

I agree. I could maybe see one huge show but not much else.

I'd pay up to $5,000. And I'm NOT kidding.

Same here. Ticket price doesn't matter when it comes to a show like that

[squirt1]

Thanks St John- I just remembered Neal saying - he hoped that Perry would just come out and sit on a stool and sing. He must have also known the validity of Perry's condition. Maybe that was not possible to sit that long, maybe its his voice quality, but hearing him with David Pack 2 yrs he still sounded like the 80's. Maybe they didn't wait for him to make important , permanent, life alterating decisions. Now, maybe he is eternally PO'd.

[mistiejourney]

I don't think SP can tour vocally.

I agree. I could maybe see one huge show but not much else.

"One huge show" would work for me. I'd pay up to $5,000. And I'm NOT kidding.

Hell, I paid $3000 for one solo show in Puerto Rico. Okay, that included airfare and hotel.

I'd do $5000 for one show - easily.

Off topic but related: I had a chance to attend the first Andy Gibb Memorial Foundation Fundraiser in Miami back in 1994. I had just gotten my computer and found out about it from an online friend. The deadline had not passed - tickets were still available. I didn't go. During that fundraiser, Maurice Gibb took a day cruise with the folks who had gone. I have the pictures and the stories from those who were there. What I don't have are the personal memories. I've been a fan of the Bee Gees since long before they were "disco" and had I gone I would have been able to meet Maurice. Needless to say, that will never happen now.

At least I've met Steve Perry, but I don't take it for granted that people will be around forever. He sings, I'm there and money is no object.

Now this loon is signing off!

[Indyjoe]

I don't think SP can tour vocally.

I agree. I could maybe see one huge show but not much else.

"One huge show" would work for me. I'd pay up to $5,000. And I'm NOT kidding.

Hell, I paid $3000 for one solo show in Puerto Rico. Okay, that included airfare and hotel.

I'd do $5000 for one show - easily.



At least I've met Steve Perry, but I don't take it for granted that people will be around forever. He sings, I'm there and money is no object.

Now this loon is signing off!

$5,000?! - Okay, clearly I am the poorest poster here It would be killer to see him again (couple in 81 and 83)!!

You've met Steve Perry too! Will you people call me next time!

Another loon signing out (this one's a JSS loon)! Off topic - go watch Jeff's performance with Uli Jon Roth in his Forum!! He was AWESOME!!

Carry on!!

~Wendy~

[cyndy!]

i know where you all live

[Indyjoe]

i know where you all live

[slucero]

umm....

WHO THE FUCK CARES



whether Perry "had" a hip job or not? ...... Perry is done...

[mistiejourney]

i know where you all live

I'm on the second floor, corner apartment!

[EightyRock]

Man, the argument of whether Perry had hip surgery or not is incredible. The only person that put the seed of doubt in some people's minds was SCHON! He said he didn't think Perry had any more problems than the rest of us when we get older. Delusional, as usual. He's proven that in every way I can think of in the past several years. Cain said just the opposite...that Perry fell apart physically. Those two will say whatever works for them at the time.

Two of Perry's FTLOSM bandmates, plus David Pack have mentioned seeing him just after surgery. Pack even bought him a bass guitar, since he knew it was his writing instrument of choice. Some of you people need to get an ounce of compassion and ask more questions to people who know Perry personally. Geez. You probably wouldn't believe them, either.

[EightyRock]

Yeah, and one more thing.... ....Perry had been on the FTLOSM tour, so the idea that his voice wasn't up to a simple one-off with Journey is stupid. He wasn't planning on the "eternal Journey tour" that Neal needs to pay his bills, but agreed to the TBF one-off. His hip crashed, not his voice. He didn't have to make up a hip surgery story to get out of singing the songs he was ALREADY singing on the FTLOSM tour.
Since he hasn't sung Journey since FTLOSM, I doubt he could do it WELL at this point. His health may be his biggest issue. If you read his most recent interviews, he's said that he would think it was odd if he went to see his favorite band and they didn't play at least some of their hits. Maybe he was really thinking of what he could or couldn't do, if he did another solo show. People would think it's odd if he didn't sing alot of Journey stuff. I wouldn't give a rat's ass WHAT he sang, but maybe some people would. That could be stopping him, too.

[Ratgirl]

i know where you all live

Then it must have been you who toilet papered my appt.

[ohsherrie]

Holy shit! Who rattled your chain?


For the record, I don't believe Perry had any hip surgery, due to reasons that have been previously stated here.

Unless, of course, one of your bunch has access to his medical records.......


As for Lora, she did interviews with Steve for the Journey newsletter, and there were always errors. A blatant one was Perry's birthdate...his stated birth year was erroneous, and made him younger than he really was...Oh, or was that a typo?

Or what about the time the newsletters kept telling the fans the ROR tour was around the corner? It wasn't, and it was later revealed (not in the newsletter) that there had been dissension within the band, which ultimately resulted in the firing of Steve Smith and Ross Valory. Or doesn't that count?

You can choose to believe whatever you want, which is what you've obviously done because your belief has no basis in any fact or evidence. It's just one of those theories that the Perry bashers concocted and have used as an excuse to blame him for all of Journey's ills for the last 10 years. And most of you wouldn't admit you were wrong about it even if you did see his medical records.

As for the birthdate thing, that was explained by Steve. It was a management decision to lie about his age in hopes of cashing in on the teeny bopper audience.

So you think Lora lied about the ROR tour? It couldn't be that she was just reporting the information that she was given? Well then who's been doing all the lying that's gone on since neither she nor Steve are with them anymore?

[mistiejourney]

Yeah, and one more thing.... ....Perry had been on the FTLOSM tour, so the idea that his voice wasn't up to a simple one-off with Journey is stupid. He wasn't planning on the "eternal Journey tour" that Neal needs to pay his bills, but agreed to the TBF one-off. His hip crashed, not his voice. He didn't have to make up a hip surgery story to get out of singing the songs he was ALREADY singing on the FTLOSM tour.
Since he hasn't sung Journey since FTLOSM, I doubt he could do it WELL at this point. His health may be his biggest issue. If you read his most recent interviews, he's said that he would think it was odd if he went to see his favorite band and they didn't play at least some of their hits. Maybe he was really thinking of what he could or couldn't do, if he did another solo show. People would think it's odd if he didn't sing alot of Journey stuff. I wouldn't give a rat's ass WHAT he sang, but maybe some people would. That could be stopping him, too.

I'm mixed up! FTLOSM came out in 1994 because I saw him in December of that year and in January and March of 1995. Wasn't TBF after that? Steve was most definitely singing on the FTLOSM tour although he was pretty sick during parts of that tour (and I heard that from him, and no I don't have any connections - it was during a meet and greet and there were two nurses at the table so we talked about how he was feeling!)

Leave it to nurses to get a hold of Steve Perry for five minutes and talk business!