For true Journey fans..

[MMMS]

I just woke up and saw this shit

We're rockin & rollin early today & it's not even Sunday!

[Matthew]

I just woke up and saw this shit

Isn't it midday or something over there? Time to look lively I reckon...

[stevew2]

Sounds like a good title for a song

[Deb]

But not once did I say anything about Augeri doing it, did I? But then again, I never really noticed. You'll be hard pressed to find me slag on Augeri in any post I've ever made, sorry he just didn't register on my radar.

Huge JSS fan are you? What do you know about his back catalogue? Love his work on the Rockstar Sdtk?

Bought both releases of World Play did you?

Yes and yes, have both the Rockstar soundtrack and the World Play cd/dvd. Granted, World Play gets a lot more play than the Rockstar soundtrack. Collected all his solo cd/dvds also, and a couple Talisman cd/dvds so far. LOL I don't do anything half-assed Red.

[Red13JoePa]

Yea, OK.

[stevew2]

I just woke up and saw this shit

Isn't it midday or something over there? Time to look lively I reckon...

Yeh its noon over here ,I decided to sleep in,and get some beauty rest,wake up refreshed, and put on some Tall Stories,How bout you Mat ?

[Matthew]

I just woke up and saw this shit

Isn't it midday or something over there? Time to look lively I reckon...

Yeh its noon over here ,I decided to sleep in,and get some beauty rest,wake up refreshed, and put on some Tall Stories,How bout you Mat ?

It's about five in the afternoon...and I'm at work...with only half an hour left to try and justify receiving a pay check today....

[brywool]

I was at that concert. Steve had a rough time. Thats when they pulled the tapes.They should never have even started that tour.Steve was looking forward to a break momths before.It was Neals choice to take the money and tour with singer that couldnt sing.As far as "christ like pose" thats bullshit,everybody has there style. The Wiggle didnt do anything for me either,but it didnt bother me, the guiy could sing till 2005 some good nights, some bad At least he was out there enteraining Journey fans. Perry didnt want to sing for Journey but didnt mind collecting the checks as if he was still singing for the band.

great post.

[stevew2]

I just woke up and saw this shit

Isn't it midday or something over there? Time to look lively I reckon...

Yeh its noon over here ,I decided to sleep in,and get some beauty rest,wake up refreshed, and put on some Tall Stories,How bout you Mat ?

It's about five in the afternoon...and I'm at work...with only half an hour left to try and justify receiving a pay check today....

You get paid for this???awesome

[stevew2]

I was at that concert. Steve had a rough time. Thats when they pulled the tapes.They should never have even started that tour.Steve was looking forward to a break momths before.It was Neals choice to take the money and tour with singer that couldnt sing.As far as "christ like pose" thats bullshit,everybody has there style. The Wiggle didnt do anything for me either,but it didnt bother me, the guiy could sing till 2005 some good nights, some bad At least he was out there enteraining Journey fans. Perry didnt want to sing for Journey but didnt mind collecting the checks as if he was still singing for the band.

great post.

Thanks

[Clasicrockldy]

Gregg Rolie was vocals for Journey before anyone. Then Robert was a road vocal only. When Steve came onboard they re-recorded "Anytime" and it was a hit.

Yes, Rolie was the first vocalist for Journey. Robert's tenure wasn't long because he wasn't the right fit vocally. Then in comes Perry.

As you stated, Neal/Cain asked Steve A. to be a part of the walk of fame. THEY did not even invite Steve, he showed up on his own!

I wouldn't say Neal/Jon asked Steve A. to be part of the Walk of Fame. At that time, Deen and Steve A. were part of the line up. The Star was for Journey, it didn't say a specific era of Journey.

Steve P. is what makes the Journey a legacy. I think Cain is finally starting to see that now.

It took 5 members of Journey to make the legacy, not one. The right combination of people. As much as I love Perry's vocals, I KNOW Perry isn't the sole reason for Journey's legacy.

remember, the others bailed and they became three once again, Perry, Schon and Cain. They then brought on Randy Jackson and they were 4. They continued on with Journey. Now they are nothing without the other.

This is where you are wrong. Perry himself has said that he fired Ross and Smitty during ROR. They weren't where Perry wanted to be. So Larry Londin, Randy Jackson, and Mike Baird were hired to take Ross and Smitty's place. Jackson and Baird toured with Steve, Neal, and Jon as hired guns. Nothing more than that.

Middle aged men trying to rake in the cash. If they have any integrity left and they want to rake in on the cash they would go and get the two Steve's back and tour. I wish I could be there when both Steve's tell them thanks, but no thanks.

We all know that Perry won't go back to Journey. Steve A. is now out after 8-9 years of singing Journey's catalogue, which may or may not have took a toll on his voice. We all know how much Neal loves to tour without hardly any breaks for vocal rest.

Steve P. is NO longer committed to any contracts. He could not go out and sing ANY Journey songs under contract even if he wanted to. Now, he can go and sing all of them he wants to. He said he is not going to ruin the songs nor the legacy.

Perry hasn't been commited to any contracts since 1998. And how did you come up with this explanation of why Perry didn't sing? Do you know him? How about this, Perry doesn't sing (exept for a BG here and there) because maybe he just doesn't want to sing period? Perry could sing any Journey any damn time he wants to, under contract or not. Perry chooses not to sing.

If Journey wanted to continue playing and raking in the cash, fine.. take Journey in another direction. If they are out trying to find a SP clone then that tells me all I needed to know.[/quote]

Taking Journey into another direction means that Neal/Jon would actually have to WORK!

[SPFan4ever]

Perry hasn't been commited to any contracts since 1998. And how did you come up with this explanation of why Perry didn't sing? Do you know him? How about this, Perry doesn't sing (exept for a BG here and there) because maybe he just doesn't want to sing period? Perry could sing any Journey any damn time he wants to, under contract or not. Perry chooses not to sing.

It is my understanding that when they parted ways that he could not do or be anything Journey. That DOES include singing Journey material right? And you are right, he chose NOT to sing HIS own songs.

Taking Journey into another direction means that Neal/Jon would actually have to WORK!

Actually they were going in a different direction and sound with JSS, but they bailed again.

[SPFan4ever]

SPFan4Ever-
My info comes from an interview from former and longtime manager Herbie Herbert. It was actually posted on here but I cant find it but Im sure someone else on this board has seen it. Basically he said Randy Jackson was a "side musician" and never was a full fledged member of Journey, although he liked to think he was. Here is the link about SP being invited to the WOF from Neal Schon: http://www.melodicrock.com/interviews/j ... schon.html
In case you dont wanna pull it read this: You did the Walk Of Fame a little while back and I talked to Jonathan about that, so I won't go over it too much with you. But there was one quote you gave someone in the UK I must ask you about.
You said the door is always open for Steve Perry to rejoin the band.
No, I said what I've been saying and I'm just trying to clear the air from all this happy horseshit that has been on the internet about me and why Steve Perry is not in the band and it's all Neal Schon's fault.
I'm mean, there has always been an open door – I invited him in front of TV, I invited him on the radio to be there, I said you need to be there and I'm really glad he showed up.And I'd be glad if he turned up tonight and wanted to sit in on two songs. Or whatever…you know what I mean?
Theres my evidence!

Thank you for replying. After reading a few things I have come to the conclusion that Steve is the one who is being stubborn.

All in all though, I am glad he did show up.

[Saint John]

Perry hasn't been commited to any contracts since 1998. And how did you come up with this explanation of why Perry didn't sing? Do you know him? How about this, Perry doesn't sing (exept for a BG here and there) because maybe he just doesn't want to sing period? Perry could sing any Journey any damn time he wants to, under contract or not. Perry chooses not to sing.

It is my understanding that when they parted ways that he could not do or be anything Journey. That DOES include singing Journey material right? And you are right, he chose NOT to sing HIS own songs.

Taking Journey into another direction means that Neal/Jon would actually have to WORK!

Actually they were going in a different direction and sound with JSS, but they bailed again.

I HIGHLY doubt that Perry gave up his ability to sing those songs. As a co-writer of virtually every (except Faithfully, which Cain recently bastardized )hit I'm sure he can sing them anywhere and anytime. He just can't advertise himself as "Journey."

[yak]

For all we know St Stephen Of Punxatawney was behind the tapes.
He could've told them his bulk cat food bills were getting out hand and to go out, let him continue his mafia like no-show job so that the greenbacks kept rolling in.

Holy shit, What a concept!!

A stretch perhaps, though not out of the realm of possibility, and I wouldn't put it past him. They don't call him a prick for nothing.

But you know, if that actually did happen, and Perry admitted it, and laughed about it, as in "I put one over on them," the Loons would still defend him to the death. Perhaps in hopes of getting ...well, you know.

[SPFan4ever]

Good point Saint John. I have not been able to find anything that says he couldn't sing anything Journey. I did find what you stated about not calling himself Journey. I guess I just do not understand the whole "contract divorce"

[Red13JoePa]

He just can't advertise himself as "Journey."

For all my piling of steve perry, that's a moot point. He just ain't that tacky and wouldn't go that route.

[Liz22562]

OMG! The Yak is back!

Yo brethren, where hast thou been?

[mistiejourney]

Bottom line for me is that I believe in redemption for all involved. It's a band and never say never can mean that even if there are no plans at present, anything is possible and it does not cost anything to hope and believe. They are human and not gods, no matter what Nig believes. Perry said that the magic that they created together was greater than what they did as individuals. I believe this, even though I love his solo efforts. I can't believe that it's never going to happen just once more for all of us to finally reunite for a common love of the Journey that made most of the world their fans.

And I have not even started on my bottle of white wine yet.

Start it immediately.

Geez.

It's over.



Not until the fat lady sings, lol.'m not fat, so no wisecracks.

Listen to the words to "Still She Cries." Apply the principle to Journey. I could forgive Cain a lot for the keyboards on this.

I have to say that "Still She Cries" is the ONLY song where I wanted the vocals to end so I could hear the keyboards. I'd love to hear that on keyboard without any vocals. That is an amazing piece of music at the end, especially.

Friga may be a twit, but he nails that song!

[mistiejourney]

This song was recorded in 2005 and judging by the sound of his voice he still has more hits left in him. Trust me, you will know his voice when you hear it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDtoVPm160

Wow...great song. No mistaking that voice.

Man, I just loooove that voice. Any range, any era. The song doesn't even get interesting until SP kicks in....

[stevew2]

Bottom line for me is that I believe in redemption for all involved. It's a band and never say never can mean that even if there are no plans at present, anything is possible and it does not cost anything to hope and believe. They are human and not gods, no matter what Nig believes. Perry said that the magic that they created together was greater than what they did as individuals. I believe this, even though I love his solo efforts. I can't believe that it's never going to happen just once more for all of us to finally reunite for a common love of the Journey that made most of the world their fans.

And I have not even started on my bottle of white wine yet.

I staring on a bottle right now

Start it immediately.

Geez.

It's over.



Not until the fat lady sings, lol.'m not fat, so no wisecracks.

Listen to the words to "Still She Cries." Apply the principle to Journey. I could forgive Cain a lot for the keyboards on this.

I have to say that "Still She Cries" is the ONLY song where I wanted the vocals to end so I could hear the keyboards. I'd love to hear that on keyboard without any vocals. That is an amazing piece of music at the end, especially.

Friga may be a twit, but he nails that song!

I like everything about that song,Trail By Fire is my favorite.Ive never heard a song like that ever

[ScarabGator]

SPFan4Ever-
My info comes from an interview from former and longtime manager Herbie Herbert. It was actually posted on here but I cant find it but Im sure someone else on this board has seen it. Basically he said Randy Jackson was a "side musician" and never was a full fledged member of Journey, although he liked to think he was. Here is the link about SP being invited to the WOF from Neal Schon: http://www.melodicrock.com/interviews/j ... schon.html
In case you dont wanna pull it read this: You did the Walk Of Fame a little while back and I talked to Jonathan about that, so I won't go over it too much with you. But there was one quote you gave someone in the UK I must ask you about.
You said the door is always open for Steve Perry to rejoin the band.
No, I said what I've been saying and I'm just trying to clear the air from all this happy horseshit that has been on the internet about me and why Steve Perry is not in the band and it's all Neal Schon's fault.
I'm mean, there has always been an open door – I invited him in front of TV, I invited him on the radio to be there, I said you need to be there and I'm really glad he showed up.And I'd be glad if he turned up tonight and wanted to sit in on two songs. Or whatever…you know what I mean?
Theres my evidence!

Thank you for replying. After reading a few things I have come to the conclusion that Steve is the one who is being stubborn.

All in all though, I am glad he did show up.

all in all we are both VERY frustrated Journey and Steve Perry fans. Its tough to have to continue discussing this but as a Journey fan what else can you do right now about it??? Ive tried the patience route and that only takes you so far. I dont know who I find more aggravating-Journey for the way they are handling this as well as the JSS debacle or SP for not offering more about his present and future in the biz. At least sit in for a couple of tunes at the WOF for Gods sake!!!