The latest on Jason Kelty

[RSParker]

I dont mind christian music when its not slaming"God" or "Lord" or "Jesus" down your throat , unfortunatly thats what Brewster does , its kind of a turn off to his music, it just seems every 7 seconds he has to throw the word Lord, jesus ,or God into his lyrics like he has a quota or something.

well, yea, Yul, but understand that his "concerts" are actually church services. or rallies for teenagers. the intent of the praise and worship services are to lift up the name of Jesus, Lord, God (the definition of worship as it were) and that is what his "shows' are--praise and worship services. so that makes his songs--um--maybe modern day hymns?? -- which would necessitate the incorporation of certain words, names, etc. just a thought.................but one can look forward to the ineviatable shredding!!! awesome. (I don't think he does any other kind of music- for now anyway.)

Most people have been burned by some bible thumping jack-ass who tells everyone that if they cant walk on water, they are gonna split hell wide open...I dont think thats what God had in mind..

I personally cant stand to listen to bands who say blasphemous crap , Or 'jackings hos' or any other crap.. To each his own. YUL has a good point about cramming God down peoples throat, but most of the people who listen to Lincoln, Listen to Klove, and go to see him, are there for one reason, to worship, they want it that way. Most people who come to our services, it doesnt feel that way to them, its only Worship.

Its just a matter of opinion, and by the way , a very valid one.

Anyway, we play alot of Lincoln's Stuff, (but i cant play that good), and he is a great woship leader.

[yulog]

There are some great christian singers out there that rarely use those terms, but through their lyrics you know they are talking about their faith/and or another meaning, someone who does this a lot is john elefante ,who sang for Kansas.Almost all of his songs tend to have double meaning and dont hit you in the face with religon, i believe one of his songs"thats why god made the moon" is the only song where you hear the term God used several times in the song....basically its just in the chorus(its actually a great song,very easy to overlook the content ,if it offends you.)

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

There are some great christian singers out there that rarely use those terms, but through their lyrics you know they are talking about their faith/and or another meaning, someone who does this a lot is john elefante ,who sang for Kansas.Almost all of his songs tend to have double meaning and dont hit you in the face with religon, i believe one of his songs"thats why god made the moon" is the only song where you hear the term God used several times in the song....basically its just in the chorus(its actually a great song,very easy to overlook the content ,if it offends you.)

I love John Elephante.

well then, I guess it is all about where the music is to be used.

topic--why does Jason Kelty sound familiar? who is he? any links?

[RSParker]

There are some great christian singers out there that rarely use those terms, but through their lyrics you know they are talking about their faith/and or another meaning, someone who does this a lot is john elefante ,who sang for Kansas.Almost all of his songs tend to have double meaning and dont hit you in the face with religon, i believe one of his songs"thats why god made the moon" is the only song where you hear the term God used several times in the song....basically its just in the chorus(its actually a great song,very easy to overlook the content ,if it offends you.)

I love John Elephante.

well then, I guess it is all about where the music is to be used.

topic--why does Jason Kelty sound familiar? who is he? any links?

here ya go my friend, prepare to be amazed!


http://members.core.com/~e5c4p3/LovinYou.mp3

[Liquid_Drummer]

The whole damn band was awesome. Best cover band I have ever seen by far !

[RSParker]

The whole damn band was awesome. Best cover band I have ever seen by far !

In total agreement there!!!!

That is some talent!!!!

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

The whole damn band was awesome. Best cover band I have ever seen by far !

what cover band? sorry I am clueless.....

[Liquid_Drummer]

In the mid 90's there was a JOurney Tribute band based out of Ohio that had a lineup of pure talent and a Perry sound a like that would blow your mind. The singer was "born again" and does not sing rock music anylong because of his religion. Damn shame if you ask me. That much talent not shared with the world does not seem like something god would agree with.

[conversationpc]

In the mid 90's there was a JOurney Tribute band based out of Ohio that had a lineup of pure talent and a Perry sound a like that would blow your mind. The singer was "born again" and does not sing rock music anylong because of his religion. Damn shame if you ask me. That much talent not shared with the world does not seem like something god would agree with.

Perhaps God has a different purpose for him?

[Liquid_Drummer]

I dont subscribe to religion so I cant accept or understand those views. As a person who subscribes to science I believe the voice of god is our own voice telling us what we want or need to hear... I respect religion but find myself unable to understand why people do some of the things they do as a result of their religion.

[conversationpc]

I dont subscribe to religion so I cant accept or understand those views. As a person who subscribes to science I believe the voice of god is our own voice telling us what we want or need to hear... I respect religion but find myself unable to understand why people do some of the things they do as a result of their religion.

If you can't understand it then you shouldn't knock it when someone does what they believe is in their best interest.

[Liquid_Drummer]

Was I knocking it ?

[conversationpc]

Was I knocking it ?

You seemed to indicate that not sharing his talent with the world was not a good thing. In God's eyes, perhaps he IS sharing his talent with the world, in the way that best suits God's purpose here.

[Soto All The Way]

Fly Dean from the west coast and have him meet up with St. John in OH and they'll have em' singing Journey in no time......Maybe even swearing!!!! Sky is from Cleveland too, send him after him with them.....

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[Saint John]

Fly Dean from the west coast and have him meet up with St. John in OH and they'll have em' singing Journey in no time......Maybe even swearing!!!! Sky is from Cleveland too, send him after him with them.....

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I'm telling you I COULD make this happen. This guy is obviously being manipulated if he thinks singing for Journey is "evil" or wrong in some way. If he is not doing it because he simply doesn't want to, then I can respect his decision.

[Eric]

Was I knocking it ?

You seemed to indicate that not sharing his talent with the world was not a good thing. In God's eyes, perhaps he IS sharing his talent with the world, in the way that best suits God's purpose here.

No...he brought up a point was all. I didn't see any bashing.

[Eric]

Fly Dean from the west coast and have him meet up with St. John in OH and they'll have em' singing Journey in no time......Maybe even swearing!!!! Sky is from Cleveland too, send him after him with them.....

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I'm telling you I COULD make this happen. This guy is obviously being manipulated if he thinks singing for Journey is "evil" or wrong in some way. If he is not doing it because he simply doesn't want to, then I can respect his decision.

Yeah....I mean:

FAITH in the Heartland
Don't Stop Believin
Living to Do
A Better Life
Out of Harms Way (Please God Keep them)
Open Arms


Journey is a positive band. I don't see the conflict.

[Liquid_Drummer]

Back in the day Jason was upset and even hurt that he wasnt asked to audition for them b4 Steve Augericurl was in. He wanted it badly and may still want it. For all we know they (managemnt) may not even know about him. All the money he makes could further his causes, church etc..... Even churches need money. He could take all that "evil" Journey money and do some real good with it.

[Arkansas]

So...I guess any offer of fronting AC/DC is totally out of the question...???


later~

[fredinator]

Of all the "candidates," this guy sounds the best--but the clip is from 2000 and he sounds like he has been more than "born again" since then. How long do you think the chemistry would last between Neal and Jason? I would wager, hmmm, about 10 seconds . I am NOT saying that Neal is an evil person--I can just relate to how long it would take me to run away from this type of thing. I am guessing that he would be a colossal bore and that the band would not be able to stand it. I really love Arnel's voice but you all have just about convinced me that he isn't the right one either. So, maybe it will be Jeremey or whoever the 3rd guy was?

[ScarabGator]

Fly Dean from the west coast and have him meet up with St. John in OH and they'll have em' singing Journey in no time......Maybe even swearing!!!! Sky is from Cleveland too, send him after him with them.....

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I'm telling you I COULD make this happen. This guy is obviously being manipulated if he thinks singing for Journey is "evil" or wrong in some way. If he is not doing it because he simply doesn't want to, then I can respect his decision.

Yeah....I mean:

FAITH in the Heartland
Don't Stop Believin
Living to Do
A Better Life
Out of Harms Way (Please God Keep them)
Open Arms


Journey is a positive band. I don't see the conflict.

DONT FORGET HIGHER PLACE!!!!

[RSParker]

[size=18]Forgive me for saying this, but i think many of you are missing the point.


And Im not trying to preach or start an argument..Being born again , and or not singing for Journey or secular music... Its a decision as a person who follows a particular walk in life, Jasons' being a follower of the life of Christ. Its not a stupid decision, or not right for him...its just a way of life.
No different that a person who doesnt drink, or watch porno, or do anything for whatever reason, Its all about beliefs. If this guy, and I dont believe any of you know him personally (some of you may), doesnt want to sing "rock" music because of his walk of faith, Why Question it? Why do any of us do the things we do, we just do. If i had the pipes that Jason has, i can Honestly say i would turn them down. Why? Its not for me, Its not my walk in life, I have what i believe a better calling in life, leading worship in church, and teaching people that following the example that I am following.

I say Good for someone who knows what he wants to do and achieve in life...I wish i could say that for more of the world..

God bless all of you!

[RSParker]

And i dont think Journey has ever been a "bad" band

You know that Devil Rock and Roll!


except for that Dream after Dream thing.....kinda spooky

[Liquid_Drummer]

[size=18]Forgive me for saying this, but i think many of you are missing the point.


And Im not trying to preach or start an argument..Being born again , and or not singing for Journey or secular music... Its a decision as a person who follows a particular walk in life, Jasons' being a follower of the life of Christ. Its not a stupid decision, or not right for him...its just a way of life.
No different that a person who doesnt drink, or watch porno, or do anything for whatever reason, Its all about beliefs. If this guy, and I dont believe any of you know him personally (some of you may), doesnt want to sing "rock" music because of his walk of faith, Why Question it? Why do any of us do the things we do, we just do. If i had the pipes that Jason has, i can Honestly say i would turn them down. Why? Its not for me, Its not my walk in life, I have what i believe a better calling in life, leading worship in church, and teaching people that following the example that I am following.

I say Good for someone who knows what he wants to do and achieve in life...I wish i could say that for more of the world..

God bless all of you!

Beause he is as close as it gets and we are selfish.

[RSParker]

[size=18]Forgive me for saying this, but i think many of you are missing the point.


And Im not trying to preach or start an argument..Being born again , and or not singing for Journey or secular music... Its a decision as a person who follows a particular walk in life, Jasons' being a follower of the life of Christ. Its not a stupid decision, or not right for him...its just a way of life.
No different that a person who doesnt drink, or watch porno, or do anything for whatever reason, Its all about beliefs. If this guy, and I dont believe any of you know him personally (some of you may), doesnt want to sing "rock" music because of his walk of faith, Why Question it? Why do any of us do the things we do, we just do. If i had the pipes that Jason has, i can Honestly say i would turn them down. Why? Its not for me, Its not my walk in life, I have what i believe a better calling in life, leading worship in church, and teaching people that following the example that I am following.

I say Good for someone who knows what he wants to do and achieve in life...I wish i could say that for more of the world..

God bless all of you!

Beause he is as close as it gets and we are selfish.

Point taken

[Saint John]

[size=18]Forgive me for saying this, but i think many of you are missing the point.


And Im not trying to preach or start an argument..Being born again , and or not singing for Journey or secular music... Its a decision as a person who follows a particular walk in life, Jasons' being a follower of the life of Christ. Its not a stupid decision, or not right for him...its just a way of life.
No different that a person who doesnt drink, or watch porno, or do anything for whatever reason, Its all about beliefs. If this guy, and I dont believe any of you know him personally (some of you may), doesnt want to sing "rock" music because of his walk of faith, Why Question it? Why do any of us do the things we do, we just do. If i had the pipes that Jason has, i can Honestly say i would turn them down. Why? Its not for me, Its not my walk in life, I have what i believe a better calling in life, leading worship in church, and teaching people that following the example that I am following.

I say Good for someone who knows what he wants to do and achieve in life...I wish i could say that for more of the world..

God bless all of you!

Beause he is as close as it gets and we are selfish.

Point taken

It DOES make sense.

[Hypothetically Inky]

Having known Kelty and the band when they first started out, I find the whole religion thing a bit unsettling. I feel that God made music and just because the song isn't about Him, it still came from Him. Now if you have a problem with a lyric and it doesn't fit within your beliefs (which a lot of modern music doesn't), then don't listen to it. But to completely cut out all music because it doesn't pertain to one subject is a bit narrow. This analogy is a bit extreme, but it is like racial profiling, just because one person of a different color does something doesn't mean they all do. New term, "musical profiling".

Way back when, I know that Jason was in touch with Ross. How much they were in touch is unknown, but Journey DOES know about Jason. Something Jason said back then strikes me now. He said he would not be able to perform 5-6 shows a week. That it would destroy his voice. I think that the fact that Journey's 2 main lead singers each lasted 8 years and then burnt out is a clear indication of this.

One last point. A man of an extreme religious attitude would not be able to handle to hijinks of Neal and Deen. The drugs and revolving door of women is enough to make a jaded person shake their head. One solution (and other bands do this), separate hotels and performing every other night. This solves the problem of hanging out with heathens and wearing out the voice. Now all they have to do is get rid of that groupie song AYWI and all problems are solved!

[T-Bone]

As a listener of both Christian Rock as well as Regular Rock, I've always felt if the music and lyrics are written well enough, they can easily appeal to BOTH fanbases. I've always been a Stryper fan and when I heard Michael Sweet was doing a solo cd back in the 90's, I grabbed it as soon as it came out. I listened to the cd and after a few tunes, I had to get out the booklet to actually read the lyrics because they really didn't sound like they were "bible thumping" at all. The lyrics were written well enough so that Michael could sing to God and about his faith, where as the regular listener was singing along and thinking they could be about some girl or whatever. Sure a couple tunes mention Jesus and Heaven, but for the most part, they sounded like regular upbeat rock tunes. Even my fiance (at that time) was listening in the car one day and really liked a few of the tunes, so I made her a copy. I waited a few weeks before I told her that it was Christian music. She didn't believe me until I showed her the Stryper stuff Then she said she didn't care anyway because it was good music.

Check out the Michael Sweet/Michael Sweet release here. All the lyrics are posted under the titles.

http://www.christianrocklyrics.com/michaelsweet.php


I guess my entire point is that music and lyrics can easily be written to appeal to both fanbases. I also feel that Stryper and Petra really brought the Christian music to the mainstream back in the 80's. Even back then, it didn't seem like too many took notice about the Christian refrences, apart from a few narrow-minded souls on either side of the fence. Most people were there for the music

[Deb]

Fly Dean from the west coast and have him meet up with St. John in OH and they'll have em' singing Journey in no time......Maybe even swearing!!!! Sky is from Cleveland too, send him after him with them.....

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LOL, now that I would pay to see! Deano and SJ in the same room with poor Jason Kelty trying to convert him to Journeyism.

T-Bone, I never even knew Michael Sweet did a solo cd? I really liked Stryper, and MS has an amazing voice. Might have to check that out.

[conversationpc]

I guess my entire point is that music and lyrics can easily be written to appeal to both fanbases. I also feel that Stryper and Petra really brought the Christian music to the mainstream back in the 80's. Even back then, it didn't seem like too many took notice about the Christian refrences, apart from a few narrow-minded souls on either side of the fence. Most people were there for the music.

Petra's albums from "This Means War!" in '87 through "Wake-Up Call" in '91 or '92 are all excellent. They're kinda the Spinal Tap of Christian bands in that they've gone through several different incarnations as far as their sound and personnel.

Anyway, it depends on which band you're talking about. Stryper's music was more geared towards a secular audience even though there was a very spiritual element to their lyrics, where Petra's was geared more for Christians in general.

Speaking of Petra, Bob Hartman has long been one of my favorite guitarists AND songwriters.