Van Hagar vs. Van Roth....

[Voyager]

Now go back to your Eddie Van Halen photoshop projects that you love to do.

I would, but I'm running out of ideas. I think they've all been done now. Check it out - here's over 3,000 posts of them:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/for ... ?t=1238245

[vhroth]

Now go back to your Eddie Van Halen photoshop projects that you love to do.

I would, but I'm running out of ideas. I think they've all been done now. Check it out - here's over 3,000 posts of them:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/for ... ?t=1238245

You find that entertaining?

[Voyager]

Now go back to your Eddie Van Halen photoshop projects that you love to do.

I would, but I'm running out of ideas. I think they've all been done now. Check it out - here's over 3,000 posts of them:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/for ... ?t=1238245

You find that entertaining?

Sure, it's fun. Some people like playing bridge in their spare time. Others drink and do drugs. I play in a band and photochop EVH pics to release the stresses of life (in addition to playing with my Rockem Sockem Robots). It works great. Here's a new one for you below. I'll be selling posters of these on Ebay for $12.00 each (plus $8.95 for shipping and handling). Herds of new VH sheep will snap them up as fast as I can print them. Next month I'll sell a follow-up print with Wolfgang's new look.

[vhroth]

Good luck with that.

You make fun of Eddie all the time yet you want your hero's Hagar and MA to be in the same band with him.

[Voyager]

Good luck with that.

You make fun of Eddie all the time yet you want your hero's Hagar and MA to be in the same band with him.

Actually, I want to play guitar for Sam and Mike. I figure if I talk down enough about Eddie and Vic, they will kick them both to the curb and choose me as their lead guitarist instead.

[vhroth]

Good luck with that.

You make fun of Eddie all the time yet you want your hero's Hagar and MA to be in the same band with him.

Actually, I want to play guitar for Sam and Mike. I figure if I talk down enough about Eddie and Vic, they will kick them both to the curb and choose me as their lead guitarist instead.

Good luck with that too.

[Angiekay]

If you like Sam and Mike and don't like Dave and Eddie whats your point of constantly talking negative about them? Why don't you talk about Sam and Mike and be positive and enjoy your life more instead of acting like you're so bitter? You bitch more than a woman and it's only rock and roll,try not to take it so seriously. There are previous band members that I don't like so much but I don't constantly post about them like I'm always pissed off and bitter about it and spend my time making retarded photoshop pictures of them. Just let it go,if you can't then maybe you need some help,some counseling because you act like Dave and Eddie ruined your life.

Wow, I think that is the single most hypocritical statement I have ever seen on this board!!! Pot, not only did you meet kettle, I think you are sleeping with him!

[vhroth]

If you like Sam and Mike and don't like Dave and Eddie whats your point of constantly talking negative about them? Why don't you talk about Sam and Mike and be positive and enjoy your life more instead of acting like you're so bitter? You bitch more than a woman and it's only rock and roll,try not to take it so seriously. There are previous band members that I don't like so much but I don't constantly post about them like I'm always pissed off and bitter about it and spend my time making retarded photoshop pictures of them. Just let it go,if you can't then maybe you need some help,some counseling because you act like Dave and Eddie ruined your life.

Wow, I think that is the single most hypocritical statement I have ever seen on this board!!! Pot, not only did you meet kettle, I think you are sleeping with him!

How is that? Explain.

[Angiekay]

If you like Sam and Mike and don't like Dave and Eddie whats your point of constantly talking negative about them? Why don't you talk about Sam and Mike and be positive and enjoy your life more instead of acting like you're so bitter? You bitch more than a woman and it's only rock and roll,try not to take it so seriously. There are previous band members that I don't like so much but I don't constantly post about them like I'm always pissed off and bitter about it and spend my time making retarded photoshop pictures of them. Just let it go,if you can't then maybe you need some help,some counseling because you act like Dave and Eddie ruined your life.

Wow, I think that is the single most hypocritical statement I have ever seen on this board!!! Pot, not only did you meet kettle, I think you are sleeping with him!

How is that? Explain.

You have had NOTHING positive to say about Sammy or Mike and take the opportunity to slam them at every chance.

[vhroth]

If you like Sam and Mike and don't like Dave and Eddie whats your point of constantly talking negative about them? Why don't you talk about Sam and Mike and be positive and enjoy your life more instead of acting like you're so bitter? You bitch more than a woman and it's only rock and roll,try not to take it so seriously. There are previous band members that I don't like so much but I don't constantly post about them like I'm always pissed off and bitter about it and spend my time making retarded photoshop pictures of them. Just let it go,if you can't then maybe you need some help,some counseling because you act like Dave and Eddie ruined your life.

Wow, I think that is the single most hypocritical statement I have ever seen on this board!!! Pot, not only did you meet kettle, I think you are sleeping with him!

How is that? Explain.

You have had NOTHING positive to say about Sammy or Mike and take the opportunity to slam them at every chance.

The key word in my post is CONSTANTLY talking negative. I don't slam Sam and Mike EVERY chance I get,only when it's appropriate like when someone starts a thread entitled Van Hagar vs. Van Roth. I appreciate a lot of the music from the Hagar era but I think Sam and Mike are happy with what they are doing now. They basicly said it was miserable touring with Eddie on the 2004 tour so I think it's for the best that everything turned out this way. I never had anything against MA but I did lose my respect for him when he went out and toured as The Other Half with Sam last year and stood there while Sam bashed Eddie on stage and insulted Eddie's playing. I also don't make retarded photoshop pictures of Sam and Mike.

[Angiekay]

The key word in my post is CONSTANTLY talking negative. I don't slam Sam and Mike EVERY chance I get,only when it's appropriate like when someone starts a thread entitled Van Hagar vs. Van Roth. I appreciate a lot of the music from the Hagar era but I think Sam and Mike are happy with what they are doing now. They basicly said it was miserable touring with Eddie on the 2004 tour so I think it's for the best that everything turned out this way. I never had anything against MA but I did lose my respect for him when he went out and toured as The Other Half with Sam last year and stood there while Sam bashed Eddie on stage and insulted Eddie's playing. I also don't make retarded photoshop pictures of Sam and Mike.

I don't think you're smart enough too figure out photoshop. I also think you make up a lot of shit and have no loyalty. You are on the bandwagon of whomever is in your good graces at the moment. Like someone pointed out, you were bashing Eddie just a few months ago. Put up or shut up.

[stabbim]

Good luck with that.

You make fun of Eddie all the time yet you want your hero's Hagar and MA to be in the same band with him.

Actually, I want to play guitar for Sam and Mike. I figure if I talk down enough about Eddie and Vic, they will kick them both to the curb and choose me as their lead guitarist instead.

Good luck with that too.

Anyone else find it weird that such an avowed fan of DLR would have no discernible sense of humor?

[vhroth]

The key word in my post is CONSTANTLY talking negative. I don't slam Sam and Mike EVERY chance I get,only when it's appropriate like when someone starts a thread entitled Van Hagar vs. Van Roth. I appreciate a lot of the music from the Hagar era but I think Sam and Mike are happy with what they are doing now. They basicly said it was miserable touring with Eddie on the 2004 tour so I think it's for the best that everything turned out this way. I never had anything against MA but I did lose my respect for him when he went out and toured as The Other Half with Sam last year and stood there while Sam bashed Eddie on stage and insulted Eddie's playing. I also don't make retarded photoshop pictures of Sam and Mike.

I don't think you're smart enough too figure out photoshop. I also think you make up a lot of shit and have no loyalty. You are on the bandwagon of whomever is in your good graces at the moment. Like someone pointed out, you were bashing Eddie just a few months ago. Put up or shut up.

Now you're insulting my intelligence. I don't make up shit and I don't owe Mike or Sam any loyalty. Mike went out and toured with Sam while Eddie was going through difficult times like battling cancer so where is Mike's loyalty? I don't know what bandwagon you're talking about because I have always been a VH fan even when Sam was in the band. I have bashed Eddie in the past because he needed help and wasn't getting it. He has now and he admitted to the whole world that he needed help and I was impressed with that. It looks like his health is improving and he has his band back together and is going on tour. Thats a big accomplishment for someone with a drug addiction.

If you ever interview MA again why don't you ask him why he bailed on Eddie while he was battling cancer to tour with Sam playing all of Eddie's music?

[vhroth]

Good luck with that.

You make fun of Eddie all the time yet you want your hero's Hagar and MA to be in the same band with him.

Actually, I want to play guitar for Sam and Mike. I figure if I talk down enough about Eddie and Vic, they will kick them both to the curb and choose me as their lead guitarist instead.

Good luck with that too.

Anyone else find it weird that such an avowed fan of DLR would have no discernible sense of humor?

It would be funny under different circumstances. I just don't see anything funny about making fun of someone that has addiction problems and personal problems whether it's a celebrity or a homeless guy on the street.

[Angiekay]

Now you're insulting my intelligence. I don't make up shit and I don't owe Mike or Sam any loyalty. Mike went out and toured with Sam while Eddie was going through difficult times like battling cancer so where is Mike's loyalty? I don't know what bandwagon you're talking about because I have always been a VH fan even when Sam was in the band. I have bashed Eddie in the past because he needed help and wasn't getting it. He has now and he admitted to the whole world that he needed help and I was impressed with that. It looks like his health is improving and he has his band back together and is going on tour. Thats a big accomplishment for someone with a drug addiction.

If you ever interview MA again why don't you ask him why he bailed on Eddie while he was battling cancer to tour with Sam playing all of Eddie's music?

Oh, so YOU have all the facts and you tell everyone else they are lying(which you have been doing in this thread)? Gotcha. I would have to make the comment you have to have a little intelligence to insult it. I believe MA told me the truth when I interveiwed him, unfortunately, I can't say the same for you. You bad mouth or praise VH members to how it suits the and /or YOUR situation. THAT is being on a bandwagon....no pun inteneded.

[Liam]

Now you're insulting my intelligence. I don't make up shit and I don't owe Mike or Sam any loyalty. Mike went out and toured with Sam while Eddie was going through difficult times like battling cancer so where is Mike's loyalty? I don't know what bandwagon you're talking about because I have always been a VH fan even when Sam was in the band. I have bashed Eddie in the past because he needed help and wasn't getting it. He has now and he admitted to the whole world that he needed help and I was impressed with that. It looks like his health is improving and he has his band back together and is going on tour. Thats a big accomplishment for someone with a drug addiction.

If you ever interview MA again why don't you ask him why he bailed on Eddie while he was battling cancer to tour with Sam playing all of Eddie's music?

Oh, so YOU have all the facts and you tell everyone else they are lying(which you have been doing in this thread)? Gotcha. I would have to make the comment you have to have a little intelligence to insult it. I believe MA told me the truth when I interveiwed him, unfortunately, I can't say the same for you. You bad mouth or praise VH members to how it suits the and /or YOUR situation. THAT is being on a bandwagon....no pun inteneded.

See...it's thing like this that make me realize that I've never REALLY gotten into it with Angie for a REASON. Well...I'm sure we'll have our bouts tonight considering the 'Boys are playing the Viks.
This girl will shred ya, Scooter. Good luck.

[vhroth]

Now you're insulting my intelligence. I don't make up shit and I don't owe Mike or Sam any loyalty. Mike went out and toured with Sam while Eddie was going through difficult times like battling cancer so where is Mike's loyalty? I don't know what bandwagon you're talking about because I have always been a VH fan even when Sam was in the band. I have bashed Eddie in the past because he needed help and wasn't getting it. He has now and he admitted to the whole world that he needed help and I was impressed with that. It looks like his health is improving and he has his band back together and is going on tour. Thats a big accomplishment for someone with a drug addiction.

If you ever interview MA again why don't you ask him why he bailed on Eddie while he was battling cancer to tour with Sam playing all of Eddie's music?

Oh, so YOU have all the facts and you tell everyone else they are lying(which you have been doing in this thread)? Gotcha. I would have to make the comment you have to have a little intelligence to insult it. I believe MA told me the truth when I interveiwed him, unfortunately, I can't say the same for you. You bad mouth or praise VH members to how it suits the and /or YOUR situation. THAT is being on a bandwagon....no pun inteneded.

No I never claimed that I have all the facts. Voyager is lying about VH canceling a show in St. Louis after only 7 songs. VH set a record for the longest streak without canceling any shows in the late 70's and 80's. They did cancel a few shows in South America in early 1983 after Eddie fractured his hand.

I'm sure MA told you the truth about what happened with Eddie on the 2004 tour and how Eddie treated him. I believe him too. But what he's not saying or understanding is that he bailed on the band when Eddie was battling cancer to tour with Hagar and that didn't sit well with Eddie and I'm sure it wouldn't sit well with any other band in that situation when a band member bails on you and plays all the music that you wrote and makes a small fortune doing it while your fighting for your life. Why would MA expect to be invited back after doing that? Especially after all the money Eddie paid him for the past 2 decades. MA seems like a real nice guy but in my opinion he made a big mistake when he did that to Eddie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYjwDkOcUc

Eddie never bailed on the band and toured without them and I'm sure he had plenty of opportunity's and offers to do it but he was LOYAL to the band. If that make's me look like I'm on a bandwagon then so be it.

[Trailblazer]

I have tried my best to grasp the theory that Michael Anthony "bailed" on the band by touring with Sammy Hagar when EVH had health issues. According to news archives of VHND, Eddie started treatment for tongue cancer in late May, 2000. Seven years ago! I don't fault Mike one bit for getting out and doing something - the man has responsibilities the same as everyone else. He signed away pretty much any right he had with the band in order to participate in the 2004 tour. And that happend only because Sammy Hagar inisisted on it. I don't know, but that tells me he really wanted to be a part of it! He went on that tour knowing full well the brothers did not want him there. Pretty hostile work environment IMHO.

BTW, Eddie didn't bail on the band because he was the one calling all the shots. It occurs to me if Alex had attempted a side project, most likely Ed would have been shopping for another drummer.

One more thing and off to more important matters. A couple of months ago every post you put in here was filled with negativity about Eddie. Now you go after Voyager, Liam, Angie, myself and anyone else who happens to disagree with your posts. No one challenged your negative posts about EVH, so why do you persist in doing it now? I think most people here feel that when a band does something good, expect positive responses. But when they continually fuck up, expect a good pounding. I am a fan of the St. Louis baseball Cardinals. Last year, against all odds, they were World Series champs. Easy to love a team that wins it all. This season they got off to a terrible start, but you know, I'm still a fan - win or lose. By your own admission, you became disenchanted with Eddie when "he needed help and wasn't getting any". Kinda like a fair-weather sports fan - fine when they're winning and damn them to hell when they're losing.

[stabbim]

BTW, Eddie didn't bail on the band because he was the one calling all the shots.

Also, one can't really "bail" on a band that, for all practical purposes, no longer exists. (That applies to MA, as well.)

[Trailblazer]

Right you are, stabbim.

[Angiekay]

BTW, Eddie didn't bail on the band because he was the one calling all the shots.

Also, one can't really "bail" on a band that, for all practical purposes, no longer exists. (That applies to MA, as well.)

Not to mention that just because you are part of a band, that doesn't mean that is the ONLY thing you can do. Why should a musician such as Anthony sit on his ass just because Eddie can't get his shit together?! Eddie doesn't CONTROL him, he's not his mother, manager or babysitter. Mikey was free to pursue other avenues and he should be able to do so without the rath of a controling alcoholic or the chargrin of so called "fans". He owes Eddie NOTHING.

[Trailblazer]

Well stated, Angie.

[Voyager]

This girl will shred ya, Scooter. Good luck.

LOL! I think Angie missed her calling. She would make a great attorney.

[vhroth]

In my opinion,just a opinion so don't get all crazy about it....if MA would have wrote and recorded his own music,put his own solo band together and toured playing his own music along with the VH music I think Eddie would have had less of a problem with that. I know you are all going to say MA has writting credits and has the right to perform the songs and he does but the band knows who wrote those songs. Someone here put it perfectly in a post somewhere that MA's writting credits were a pure gift from Eddie Van Halen. MA took that gift and bailed on the band and made a lot of money using the gift that Eddie gave him. Dave and Eddie both publicly have said that they wrote the music,period. Eddie said he writes the music and Dave writes the lyrics and Dave said the same thing. Eddie also said back in 1982 in a un printed Guitar World interview that was recently released that MA,quote "does not contribute ANYTHING to the band but he got rich of off us" un qoute. I think years later it started to bother Eddie that MA wasn't contributing anything to the band and when MA bailed and toured with Hagar Eddie wrote him off.

Just my opinion and if I'm on a bandwagaon then I'm on a bandwagon. Eddie made a lot of mistakes and fucked things up with the band and he could be the biggest prick in the world but I love the music and I have always been a fan of VH. I'm glad he's doing better and taking care of himself and I'm looking foward to seeing Eddie and Dave onstage together again. I never stopped being a fan when Eddie was down and out and struggling with health issues. It's kind of like I'm a big Lions fan and they have sucked for years. That team pisses me off every year and it's frustrating to watch them lose all the time and I say shit about the team and put them down but I'm still a fan and always will be. I still wear Lions shirts and people say shit to me walking by but I don't care,thats my team. If they ever start doing good and make it to the Super Bowl then I guess I'll be on a bandwagon because I will be talking positive about them but I never jumped off the bandwagon.

[Pacfanweb]

vhroth, you are dead wrong about Mike "bailing" on Eddie.

Exactly what did Mike bail on? Sitting on his ass, not hearing a word from Eddie?

He didn't bail to tour with Sammy.....Eddie had cancer in the late 90's, and announced he was cancer-free shortly before the Sam/Dave tour in 2002.

So nice try, but that's not a relevant point. There was no Van Halen at that point. There was no band at all. So Mike didn't bail on anything, or do anything wrong whatsoever.


Eddie is the one who is totally at fault. He's the reason for all the inactivity, all the silence all those years.....nobody else.

[vhroth]

Exactly what did Mike bail on? Sitting on his ass, not hearing a word from Eddie?

He didn't bail to tour with Sammy.....Eddie had cancer in the late 90's, and announced he was cancer-free shortly before the Sam/Dave tour in 2002.

So nice try, but that's not a relevant point. There was no Van Halen at that point. There was no band at all. So Mike didn't bail on anything, or do anything wrong whatsoever.


Eddie is the one who is totally at fault. He's the reason for all the inactivity, all the silence all those years.....nobody else.

VH were touring and recording in the late 90's. They were in the studio in 99. They were in the studio with Dave in 2000. Eddie was diagnosed with cancer in 2000 and he released a press statement on the day or the day after the Sam And Dave press confrence in 2002 that he was "cancer free and given a bill of good health." So in 2001 Eddie was fighting for his life and that was the first year MA went on tour with Hagar and there was still a Van Halen. The band never once said they broke up. What do you expect when a band member is fighting cancer? Of course they took some time off. MA could have called Eddie,he could have stuck around LA and offered him support. I'm sure when he was in chemo therapy he wasn't thinking about calling his bass player. He was thinking of his wife and his marriage falling apart and thinking of his son. MA knows Eddie's phone number.

[NealIsGod]

It sucks that Ed had cancer, which I am sure took over his life for years, but it seems VH has not been important to him for 10 or 12 years. If it wasn't for Sammy and Mike (and DLR on his own), VH fans would have been left with no live shows to attend to hear their favorite VH songs.

[Pacfanweb]

Exactly what did Mike bail on? Sitting on his ass, not hearing a word from Eddie?

He didn't bail to tour with Sammy.....Eddie had cancer in the late 90's, and announced he was cancer-free shortly before the Sam/Dave tour in 2002.

So nice try, but that's not a relevant point. There was no Van Halen at that point. There was no band at all. So Mike didn't bail on anything, or do anything wrong whatsoever.


Eddie is the one who is totally at fault. He's the reason for all the inactivity, all the silence all those years.....nobody else.

VH were touring and recording in the late 90's. They were in the studio in 99. They were in the studio with Dave in 2000. Eddie was diagnosed with cancer in 2000 and he released a press statement on the day or the day after the Sam And Dave press confrence in 2002 that he was "cancer free and given a bill of good health." So in 2001 Eddie was fighting for his life and that was the first year MA went on tour with Hagar and there was still a Van Halen. The band never once said they broke up. What do you expect when a band member is fighting cancer? Of course they took some time off. MA could have called Eddie,he could have stuck around LA and offered him support. I'm sure when he was in chemo therapy he wasn't thinking about calling his bass player. He was thinking of his wife and his marriage falling apart and thinking of his son. MA knows Eddie's phone number.

Wrong again, the Sam/Dave tour was in 2002. MA never toured with Sammy before that, to my recollection.
VH did an album and tour with Gary in 1998. They attempted working on some new material with Gary after that. It is very questionable whether Mike actually played bass on any of the VH3 tunes. Probably not. Also questionable whether he played on the CGTSNM and MWM. So all Eddie was using Mike for was touring, and Eddie wasn't even happy about doing that....he'd wanted and tried to replace Mike since the Fair Warning days.

They did briefly work with Dave a couple of times, but that was very short-lived.

Again, the Hagar/Roth tour didn't start until mid-2002. Mikey did NOT tour with Sammy before that.

Eddie's fight with cancer had long been over at that point. It had long been over WAY before he actually announced he was cancer-free.
They had done nothing with any singer since early 2000. That was only a brief flirtation with Dave. So basically, they had done almost nothing since Gary left, which was in 99, I think.
Yet Eddie and Alex were "jamming daily", according to Eddie, all the whole while.

Once again, there was no Van Halen band at that point in 2002. None. Not even an inkling of a band. Remember, your hero-who-can-do-no-wrong Dave also went on tour with Sammy that year, just like Mike did. Why is that okay?

And finally, no version of Van Halen did anything until 2004....so if Mike had never toured with Sammy, that would have been 4 years of sitting on his ass waiting on the Eddie to freaking do SOMETHING. And yeah, I'm sure Mike has Eddie's number....what good did that do him? You think he could have gotten Eddie out of his bottle long enough to make up with Sammy or Dave and get a band together? Sorry, but Mike was essentially out of the band already at that point in 2002.
Only reason he was included on the 2004 tour was that Sammy wouldn't do it without him...and even then, Eddie made him sign away his rights to a band he'd been in since the early 70's just to tour.

I think Dave summed it up best a few years back when he said "Edward Van Halen, without a guitar in his hands, is a crummy human being".

[vhroth]

It sucks that Ed had cancer, which I am sure took over his life for years, but it seems VH has not been important to him for 10 or 12 years. If it wasn't for Sammy and Mike (and DLR on his own), VH fans would have been left with no live shows to attend to hear their favorite VH songs.

Thats true but MA was still officially in the band.

In the 90's when Journey was on hiatus and Steve Perry needed hip surgery Ross Valory didn't go out and tour as The Other Half making a fortune playing Journey music that he didn't write and bash Neal Schon on stage every night. He didn't say "this song couldn't be played on the last Journey tour because Neal forgot how to play it but MY guitar player can."

I'm not bashing Journey at all,just a example. Journey is a great band no matter what anyone says. Don't Stop Believin' is in the top 5 downloaded iTunes songs and that song is over 26 years old.

[vhroth]

Exactly what did Mike bail on? Sitting on his ass, not hearing a word from Eddie?

He didn't bail to tour with Sammy.....Eddie had cancer in the late 90's, and announced he was cancer-free shortly before the Sam/Dave tour in 2002.

So nice try, but that's not a relevant point. There was no Van Halen at that point. There was no band at all. So Mike didn't bail on anything, or do anything wrong whatsoever.


Eddie is the one who is totally at fault. He's the reason for all the inactivity, all the silence all those years.....nobody else.

VH were touring and recording in the late 90's. They were in the studio in 99. They were in the studio with Dave in 2000. Eddie was diagnosed with cancer in 2000 and he released a press statement on the day or the day after the Sam And Dave press confrence in 2002 that he was "cancer free and given a bill of good health." So in 2001 Eddie was fighting for his life and that was the first year MA went on tour with Hagar and there was still a Van Halen. The band never once said they broke up. What do you expect when a band member is fighting cancer? Of course they took some time off. MA could have called Eddie,he could have stuck around LA and offered him support. I'm sure when he was in chemo therapy he wasn't thinking about calling his bass player. He was thinking of his wife and his marriage falling apart and thinking of his son. MA knows Eddie's phone number.

Wrong again, the Sam/Dave tour was in 2002. MA never toured with Sammy before that, to my recollection.
VH did an album and tour with Gary in 1998. They attempted working on some new material with Gary after that. It is very questionable whether Mike actually played bass on any of the VH3 tunes. Probably not. Also questionable whether he played on the CGTSNM and MWM. So all Eddie was using Mike for was touring, and Eddie wasn't even happy about doing that....he'd wanted and tried to replace Mike since the Fair Warning days.

They did briefly work with Dave a couple of times, but that was very short-lived.

Again, the Hagar/Roth tour didn't start until mid-2002. Mikey did NOT tour with Sammy before that.

Eddie's fight with cancer had long been over at that point. It had long been over WAY before he actually announced he was cancer-free.
They had done nothing with any singer since early 2000. That was only a brief flirtation with Dave. So basically, they had done almost nothing since Gary left, which was in 99, I think.
Yet Eddie and Alex were "jamming daily", according to Eddie, all the whole while.

Once again, there was no Van Halen band at that point in 2002. None. Not even an inkling of a band. Remember, your hero-who-can-do-no-wrong Dave also went on tour with Sammy that year, just like Mike did. Why is that okay?

And finally, no version of Van Halen did anything until 2004....so if Mike had never toured with Sammy, that would have been 4 years of sitting on his ass waiting on the Eddie to freaking do SOMETHING. And yeah, I'm sure Mike has Eddie's number....what good did that do him? You think he could have gotten Eddie out of his bottle long enough to make up with Sammy or Dave and get a band together? Sorry, but Mike was essentially out of the band already at that point in 2002.
Only reason he was included on the 2004 tour was that Sammy wouldn't do it without him...and even then, Eddie made him sign away his rights to a band he'd been in since the early 70's just to tour.

I think Dave summed it up best a few years back when he said "Edward Van Halen, without a guitar in his hands, is a crummy human being".

No,you're wrong. MA toured with Hagar in 2001 as a special guest. As for Sam and Dave touring without VH and touring together they were not in VH at the time and neither one of them toured without VH while they were in VH.