OT: Where's the media on this one?

[ebake02]

Let's see...he KNOWINGLY lied about Iraq's "possession" of WMD, its involvement with 9/11 (ZERO!), and its nuclear capability. That's just a LITTLE more of a violation of national security than fudging about oral sex under oath.

I'll find the book where this study is detailed and footnoted. You'll hear from me soon, and it'll blow your mind.

Let's see...the media helped get Clinton impeached because of its reporting on his shenanigans...yet what about "Mr. Family Values", Newton Gingrich? The "man" showed up at his wife's hospital bed, following a serious operation for cancer, with a yellow notepad of divorce stipulations outlined...which he promtly read aloud to her in front of his child...a divorce that was set into motion by "The Family Man's" sordid sexual affair with a married college professor. Which did you hear more about?

Yeah, the media is liberally slanted. Whatever. That's why Coulter, Fox "News", HANNITY and colmes, Limbaugh, and all those other hatemongers have their own shows. Name one liberally slanted radio or TV news program. And don't say NPR, because that assertion has already been incontrovertibly refuted.

There is no way that coulter is a conservative, I've listened to here quite a few time and she sounds liberal to me. If you want to talk about liberal talkng heads how bout Michael Moore and Al Franken, they don;t have their own news programs but they are so far to the left that it isn't funny. Want another one, how bout most of NBC and CNN, everybody knows that both stations are to the left of the political spectrum, why do you think their ratings suck.

[Rockindeano]

Are you honestly saying here that Eric Alterman is non partisan? Eric Alterman is about as far to the left as one can get.

No different than you folks saying Fox News is NOT right winged.

By the way, to prove I am fair, these scumbags are filthy cockwarts and they are dems...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/06/ ... index.html

[conversationpc]

No different than you folks saying Fox News is NOT right winged.

They are. Anyone that says otherwise is a Hannity worshipper.

[Barb]

A. I am not a Republican.

B. I am not a hate monger


Why don't you give us a link to this actual study instead of quoting the most left wing nut in America? If someone here quoted verbage from an Ann Coulter book and called it non-partistan, I'm sure your anti Republican adjective finder would be on over drive.

Quote the study and tell us who AMR is.

Did you miss the study I posted done by UCLA?

Um, no.

But you DID miss the point. The research itself has nothing to do with him.

Typical Republican hatemonger. Just keep turning a deaf ear and pretending the facts aren't there.

[Rockindeano]

No different than you folks saying Fox News is NOT right winged.

They are. Anyone that says otherwise is a Hannity worshipper.

But Fox news themselves claim they are "Fair and Balanced." Would you agree that is bullshit upon bullshit, Dave?

[Barb]

I'm not quoting right wing pundits and calling it non partisan. Fox News does lean right, no doubt. At least those of us who watch it will admit it.

No different than you folks saying Fox News is NOT right winged.

By the way, to prove I am fair, these scumbags are filthy cockwarts and they are dems...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/06/ ... index.html

[ebake02]

No different than you folks saying Fox News is NOT right winged.

They are. Anyone that says otherwise is a Hannity worshipper.

But Fox news themselves claim they are "Fair and Balanced." Would you agree that is bullshit upon bullshit, Dave?

They have the highest ratings of any news channel so obviously some people agree with it.

[conversationpc]

But Fox news themselves claim they are "Fair and Balanced." Would you agree that is bullshit upon bullshit, Dave?

Fair and balanced? I don't know. I don't really watch their programs that are supposed to be just straight news, like Brit Hume's show. I only watch O'Reilly's show and Hannity & Colmes but they are supposed to be opinion-based shows, so I don't count them.

From what I have seen, though, I would say they definitely lean conservative just like CNN or NBC lean left. So, in other words, they aren't really "Fair and Balanced", but they're no different than other networks.

[Barb]

I think it has to more to do with people seeing news on FNC that they NEVER see anywhere else. Other media outlets choose to leave a lot out of their coverage. You'll rarely see any positive reports on American troops in Iraq or when something actually goes right in Iraq on the NBC nightly news. FNC will actually show us those things.... and GASP! There are actually some conservatives on there doing reporting! Where in holy hell do you find conservatives on any other news station? The ratio is about 90-10 Democrat in print media and network news.

[quote="ebake02]

They are the highest ranking news channel so obviously some people agree with it.[/quote]

[ebake02]

I think it has to more to do with people seeing news on FNC that they NEVER see anywhere else.

That's why I prefer fox news over the other news stations out there.

[frfksakes]

The sad part is that there are very few people on either side that aren’t scumbags, or whores, or worse - cowards.
& the decent ones are up against a huge, well oiled machine that has every incentive to keep things exactly as they are.

I have no idea how anyone without money has a chance in hell of changing things, and frankly it scares me to death.

[Rockindeano]

LOL, during the entire Craig bathroom sex stuff, Fox NEVER raised it among their "news" segments. They harped on Global Warming as bullshit and among some storm or lost whale or some shit....anything BUT the Craig mess.

[frfksakes]

While the media and libs clamour to cast stones at Republicans ala the Larry Craig scandal,

Larry Craig is such a big scandal because it's hysterical that so many gay bashing republicans are getting caught being gay (even if only for the moment, lol).

It’s disgusting that he tried to have promiscuous sex in a public bathroom, but it’s huge news because of the homophobic crap that has come out of his mouth for years.

[NealIsGod]

While the media and libs clamour to cast stones at Republicans ala the Larry Craig scandal,

Larry Craig is such a big scandal because it's hysterical that so many gay bashing republicans are getting caught being gay (even if only for the moment, lol).

It’s disgusting that he tried to have promiscuous sex in a public bathroom, but it’s huge news because of the homophobic crap that has come out of his mouth for years.

Funny how the loudest homophobes seem to be gay themselves.

[Tom Jrnyfn]

While the media and libs clamour to cast stones at Republicans ala the Larry Craig scandal, this particular story is basically being ignored even though it's far more harmful to the country...

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., has abruptly walked away from her responsibilities with the Senate Military Construction Appropriations Subcommittee after a report linked her votes to the financial well-being of her husband's companies, which received billions of dollars worth of military construction contracts she approved.

Read the rest of the article @ http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=54932

Diane Feinstein
Larry Craig
William Jefferson
and on and on and on...

Both parties suck

Yea, they all are thieves. I hate politicians with every fiber in my body. I wish all the cock suckers from local to federal would die. It's time to re-write the Constitution and put time limits on these bastards.

[conversationpc]

While the media and libs clamour to cast stones at Republicans ala the Larry Craig scandal,

Larry Craig is such a big scandal because it's hysterical that so many gay bashing republicans are getting caught being gay (even if only for the moment, lol).

It’s disgusting that he tried to have promiscuous sex in a public bathroom, but it’s huge news because of the homophobic crap that has come out of his mouth for years.

Funny how the loudest homophobes seem to be gay themselves.

Exactly. I wonder if that applies to some of the people here and at the TBJF as well?

[NealIsGod]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d63ClccjjE

We saw his special on Comedy Central last night.

[7 Wishes]

Disagree with a Republican? Can't think of anything intelligent to say? Call them a "hatemonger". Oooohhhh....Ahhhhh.

That's right. Valid arguments that broach sensitive topics...even when factual information is used...typical Republican response. The Democrat provides the well thought-out response, and the Republican goes on a tangent to get off-topic.

[ebake02]

All politicians are the same, it doesn't matter where they are on the political spectrum. They'll do anything to keep their jobs, legal or illegal.

[conversationpc]

That's right. Valid arguments that broach sensitive topics...even when factual information is used...typical Republican response. The Democrat provides the well thought-out response, and the Republican goes on a tangent to get off-topic.

Sorry, but you've got it reversed. Libs are rooted in emotional responses and thinking versus the more rational thought and responses of Conservatives, hence the general notion that Republicans are considered uncaring "hatemongers" by the left and liberals are thought of as feel-good common sense-lacking loons by those on the right.

[7 Wishes]

Whatever, Dave and Barb. I'm just going to shut up until I locate my references, and then I'll indulge you. This is, otherwise, frivolous. Republicans are ALWAYS right, and Democrats or Independents are ALWAYS wrong. No margin for error there.

[conversationpc]

Republicans are ALWAYS right, and Democrats or Independents are ALWAYS wrong. No margin for error there.

I'm an Independent, so I guess that means I'm ALWAYS wrong.

[NealIsGod]

Republicans are ALWAYS right, and Democrats or Independents are ALWAYS wrong. No margin for error there.

I'm an Independent, so I guess that means I'm ALWAYS wrong.

An independent who works for Evil Conservative Industries?

[conversationpc]

I'm an Independent, so I guess that means I'm ALWAYS wrong.

An independent who works for Evil Conservative Industries?

Most real conservatives that I know of are either no longer associated with the Republican party or at least realize the Republican party is no longer representative of our ideas. Conservative & Republican are no longer synonomous.

[chad]

it's all a sad state...

i can't stand either party. sick of all the lip service, photo opps, non follow-through and empty promises

would love to see someone with merit, smarts and a conscious take over. wouldn't hurt either if they could finance their own campaign so there's no lobbyist to answer to

just tired of the same-old, same-old

[7 Wishes]

This affirms my long-held belief that Democrats are more open-minded than conservatives:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070909/hl_afp/scienceneuroscience;_ylt=Au5ZOi9_JIqcRMkxJuA82GWKOrgF

PARIS (AFP) - The brain neurons of liberals and conservatives fire differently when confronted with tough choices, suggesting that some political divides may be hard-wired, according a study released Sunday.
ADVERTISEMENT

Aristotle may have been more on the mark than he realised when he said that man is by nature a political animal.

Dozens of previous studies have established a strong link between political persuasion and certain personality traits.

Conservatives tend to crave order and structure in their lives, and are more consistent in the way they make decisions. Liberals, by contrast, show a higher tolerance for ambiguity and complexity, and adapt more easily to unexpected circumstances.

The affinity between political views and "cognitive style" has also been shown to be heritable, handed down from parents to children, said the study, published in the British journal Nature Neuroscience.

Intrigued by these correlations, New York University political scientist David Amodio and colleagues decided to find out if the brains of liberals and conservatives reacted differently to the same stimuli.

A group of 43 right-handed subjects were asked to perform a series of computer tests designed to evaluate their unrehearsed response to cues urging them to break a well-established routine.

"People often drive home from work on the same route, day after day, such that it becomes habitual and doesn't involve much thinking," Amodio explained by way of comparison in an e-mail.

"But occasionally there is road work, or perhaps an animal crosses the road, and you need to break out of your habitual response in order to deal with this new information."

Using electroencephalographs, which measure neuronal impulses, the researchers examined activity in a part of the brain -- the anterior cingulate cortex -- that is strongly linked with the self-regulatory process of conflict monitoring.

The match-up was unmistakable: respondents who had described themselves as liberals showed "significantly greater conflict-related neural activity" when the hypothetical situation called for an unscheduled break in routine.

Conservatives, however, were less flexible, refusing to deviate from old habits "despite signals that this ... should be changed."

Whether that is good or bad, of course, depends on one's perspective: one could interpret the results to mean that liberals are nimble-minded and conservatives rigid and stubborn.

Or one could, with equal justice, conclude that wishy-washy liberals don't stick to their guns, while conservatives and steadfast and loyal.

As to the more intriguing question of which comes first, the patterns in neuron activity or the political orientation, Amodio is reluctant to hazard a guess.

"The neural mechanisms for conflict monitoring are formed early in childhood," and are probably rooted in part in our genetic heritage, he said.

"But even if genes may provide a blueprint for more liberal or conservative orientations, they are shaped substantially by one's environment over the course of development," he added.

Obscuring causal links even more is the fact that the brain is malleable and neural functions can change as a result of new experiences.

[Rockindeano]

I love the fact that that motherfucker Karl Rove stated time and time again, that "the key to the next election is the Latino vote." The Democrats steal his thoughts, and hold a debate in Florida broadcasted by Univision. Nothing like thieving Karl Roves "genius" takes.

That stupid fuck..."Bush's Brain", lol...Where's the genius? Failed Social security, Failed Immigration Policy(He wanted that awful immigration law to pass to get the Latino vote), The War, the midterms, and now the White House they will lose...the guy quits and runs so he won't be subpoena'd by Congress.

I am counting the fucking days til we get our country back.

[conversationpc]

the guy quits and runs so he won't be subpoena'd by Congress.

He can still be subpoenad by Congress.

[conversationpc]

This affirms my long-held belief that Democrats are more open-minded than conservatives:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070909/hl_afp/scienceneuroscience;_ylt=Au5ZOi9_JIqcRMkxJuA82GWKOrgF

PARIS (AFP) - The brain neurons of liberals and conservatives fire differently when confronted with tough choices, suggesting that some political divides may be hard-wired, according a study released Sunday.
ADVERTISEMENT

Aristotle may have been more on the mark than he realised when he said that man is by nature a political animal.

Dozens of previous studies have established a strong link between political persuasion and certain personality traits.

Conservatives tend to crave order and structure in their lives, and are more consistent in the way they make decisions. Liberals, by contrast, show a higher tolerance for ambiguity and complexity, and adapt more easily to unexpected circumstances.

The affinity between political views and "cognitive style" has also been shown to be heritable, handed down from parents to children, said the study, published in the British journal Nature Neuroscience.

Intrigued by these correlations, New York University political scientist David Amodio and colleagues decided to find out if the brains of liberals and conservatives reacted differently to the same stimuli.

A group of 43 right-handed subjects were asked to perform a series of computer tests designed to evaluate their unrehearsed response to cues urging them to break a well-established routine.

"People often drive home from work on the same route, day after day, such that it becomes habitual and doesn't involve much thinking," Amodio explained by way of comparison in an e-mail.

"But occasionally there is road work, or perhaps an animal crosses the road, and you need to break out of your habitual response in order to deal with this new information."

Using electroencephalographs, which measure neuronal impulses, the researchers examined activity in a part of the brain -- the anterior cingulate cortex -- that is strongly linked with the self-regulatory process of conflict monitoring.

The match-up was unmistakable: respondents who had described themselves as liberals showed "significantly greater conflict-related neural activity" when the hypothetical situation called for an unscheduled break in routine.

Conservatives, however, were less flexible, refusing to deviate from old habits "despite signals that this ... should be changed."

Whether that is good or bad, of course, depends on one's perspective: one could interpret the results to mean that liberals are nimble-minded and conservatives rigid and stubborn.

Or one could, with equal justice, conclude that wishy-washy liberals don't stick to their guns, while conservatives and steadfast and loyal.

As to the more intriguing question of which comes first, the patterns in neuron activity or the political orientation, Amodio is reluctant to hazard a guess.

"The neural mechanisms for conflict monitoring are formed early in childhood," and are probably rooted in part in our genetic heritage, he said.

"But even if genes may provide a blueprint for more liberal or conservative orientations, they are shaped substantially by one's environment over the course of development," he added.

Obscuring causal links even more is the fact that the brain is malleable and neural functions can change as a result of new experiences.

The fact that you would so easily believe something that smells of junk science is proof that liberals don't know BS when they see, hear, or smell it.

[Rockindeano]

the guy quits and runs so he won't be subpoena'd by Congress.

He can still be subpoenad by Congress.

Yeah, but to the public, it will look like a witch hunt and the Dems shouldn't do it. he is gone now, although I bet my right nut he is still in cell phone contact with W.