Unbelievable....

[*Laura]

I can't believe this is happening.
Just finished reading the "Alert" thread,but can't reply in there,so I had to open this thread to say this.
If I'd knew that the Arnel article will cause such an idiotic vile reaction from that woman who threatens Andrew's event,I would have never posted it.
I feel so bad thinking that I may have been indirectly causing grief.
I guess you all realize that my intention was to post a Journey/Forum related article,as I always do when I find something on the Net...

Why are some people so mean?
I hope that woman who's doing this to Andrew will end up in a lot of trouble herself.
She can't be a Journey fan.Just a deranged person who feels the need to harm good people.

I'm sorry,Andrew.
Please let me know if you need any kind of support for the MR Fest.

[Andrew]

I'll open up that other thread again, just in case anyone wants to add anything, but I do want people to move on from this issue.

I know who the person is, I am not aware of her causing me any grief previously - although I am not yet done with my investigation.
But it is very disappointing and quite disturbing that anyone would take this route without first contacting me to voice their displeasure first.

There are plenty of other things to talk about...let's concentrate on the good stuff.

[StoneCold]

Hey Laura, you didn't 'cause it. Any one of us might have linked the article had we seen it.

You opened eyes for a lot of us. Easy to forget we're not the only ones shootin' the breeze. Lots of lurkers.

It'll get handled and the less we focus on it, the better.

[*Laura]

There are plenty of other things to talk about...let's concentrate on the good stuff.

I agree.
The MR show is definitely one of them.

[Rockindeano]

Hell no it isn't your fault.

Andrew, tell me who this vicious bitch is. Believe me, I am going through all the vile smelly twats in my mind I can think of. She will rue the fucking day. Everyone here will make her life a living Hell.

Romanian, seriously, posting that article was NOT a problem. This **** wants trouble, that's exactly what she shall receive.

Interfering with commerce, which is exactly what Andrew's concert is, is illegal. Andrew, you mustn't pay lip service. Strike this demon down, and let us all pile on.

[Andrew]

Andrew, tell me who this vicious bitch is.

Thanks Deano, but no. I'm dealing with it. I don't like to be a hard nut, but sometimes one is forced into such a situation.

[Rockindeano]

Andrew, tell me who this vicious bitch is.

Thanks Deano, but no. I'm dealing with it. I don't like to be a hard nut, but sometimes one is forced into such a situation.

Tell me Goddammit. At least a hint. Is she a fan of mine or does she hate me?

[Andrew]

Is she a fan of mine or does she hate me?

If she hates this board and all that it stands for - what do you think!!!

There is simply far too much drama sourrounding the band Journey and the forever divided fan base.

[Rockindeano]

You know what dude, close the Journey Board. It makes absolutely NO sense to keep it open. Why give them any mention? We can rename it to whatever, we can all still come here and BS, and you can be rid of anything Journey.

It's a no brainer. People won't be pissed that the Journey Board is gone. Hell, I hope you DO close it. We can just gravitate to another forum.

Do it. I want to see a R.I.P. Journey when I wake up in 2 hours.

Why should a bunch of assholes, management all the way down to band members and roadies, have a board named after them? Why doesn't George W Bush have a board? OJ? Hitler? Michael Vick? They are all bad people, give them a board. See my point? Why associate yourself with a cancer? Journey is a fucking disease spreading cancer. Terminate it now.

[Andrew]

You know what dude, close the Journey Board. It makes absolutely NO sense to keep it open. Why give them any mention? We can rename it to whatever, we can all still come here and BS, and you can be rid of anything Journey.

That is under serious consideration. I no longer have the patience or the desire to put up with certain things...

[Saint John]

If you ARE going to rename this forum, I think something alluding to Steve Perry is in order as it will:

1) piss off the world's shortest guitarist to no end.
2) disassociate this board from any direct connection to the current lineup...whatever the fuck it is.
3) be perfectly appropriate considering they have been riding his vocal coattails for the better part of 10 years.

[MartyMoffatt]

If you ARE going to rename this forum, I think something alluding to Steve Perry is in order as it will:

1) piss off the world's shortest guitarist to no end.
2) disassociate this board from any direct connection to the current lineup...whatever the fuck it is.
3) be perfectly appropriate considering they have been riding his vocal coattails for the better part of 10 years.

I'm assuming this is a joke, because if not it is probably the most stupid idea I've seen on this board for a long time (and it has plenty of competition! ). If Andrew's intent, when considering whether to close or rename this board, is to reduce the amount of controversy, bickering, hate and bad feeling surrounding recent events, why on Earth would he consider renaming it to the one thing guaranteed to stir up more controversy and bickering than ever. That would be just stirring the pot.

Marty

[Matthew]

Why should a bunch of assholes, management all the way down to band members and roadies, have a board named after them? Why doesn't George W Bush have a board? OJ? Hitler? Michael Vick? They are all bad people, give them a board. See my point? Why associate yourself with a cancer? Journey is a fucking disease spreading cancer. Terminate it now.

Good to see no-one has lost their sense of perspective in all this drama....

[Andrew]

If you ARE going to rename this forum, I think something alluding to Steve Perry is in order as it will:

First round of problems I ever had here was from Perry fans all pissed off I was covering their band without their beloved singer.

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

[Saint John]

If you ARE going to rename this forum, I think something alluding to Steve Perry is in order as it will:

1) piss off the world's shortest guitarist to no end.
2) disassociate this board from any direct connection to the current lineup...whatever the fuck it is.
3) be perfectly appropriate considering they have been riding his vocal coattails for the better part of 10 years.

I'm assuming this is a joke, because if not it is probably the most stupid idea I've seen on this board for a long time (and it has plenty of competition! ). If Andrew's intent, when considering whether to close or rename this board, is to reduce the amount of controversy, bickering, hate and bad feeling surrounding recent events, why on Earth would he consider renaming it to the one thing guaranteed to stir up more controversy and bickering than ever. That would be just stirring the pot.

Marty

1) It was
2) Your use of the words "most stupid" is, ironically, grammatically incorrect. The proper term would have been "stupidest." Dictionary.com might be a site for you to check out.

[Matthew]

If you ARE going to rename this forum, I think something alluding to Steve Perry is in order as it will:

1) piss off the world's shortest guitarist to no end.
2) disassociate this board from any direct connection to the current lineup...whatever the fuck it is.
3) be perfectly appropriate considering they have been riding his vocal coattails for the better part of 10 years.

I'm assuming this is a joke, because if not it is probably the most stupid idea I've seen on this board for a long time (and it has plenty of competition! ). If Andrew's intent, when considering whether to close or rename this board, is to reduce the amount of controversy, bickering, hate and bad feeling surrounding recent events, why on Earth would he consider renaming it to the one thing guaranteed to stir up more controversy and bickering than ever. That would be just stirring the pot.

Marty

There hasn't been any bad feeling toward Perry for a while now though Marty. Apart from the occassional obsessive like Yak. In fact, most online Journey fans are slowly coming to their senses again and they recognise that Perry is the only guy with a bit of class - and that Journey are a washed up and second-rate band without him. Also - most of the embittered Augeri contingent who are most likely to bicker about it are safely stuck in that morass of self-pity over at TJF.

So I think this idea might just work. Good thinking, Saint John.

[nikki]

there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough![/quote]

Then do what you have to do. If it means deleting the forum, so be it. Most of us gravitate to the other forums alot anyway, so it really wouldn't be that big of a deal for us and it would certainly lighten your load around here. I think it's safe to say the majority of those who post on here, or even those who don't so much would support whatever decision you make, myself included!

[Gordon from Edinburgh]

If you ARE going to rename this forum, I think something alluding to Steve Perry is in order as it will:

First round of problems I ever had here was from Perry fans all pissed off I was covering their band without their beloved singer.

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

I am amazed at that. Perry will always be my favourite singer but JSS blew me away and i have much respect for the guy and will support his endeavours. Perry gets mostly good reportage here - so the loons need to back off - its the "others" in the band that destroyed the dream......

[Matthew]

If you ARE going to rename this forum, I think something alluding to Steve Perry is in order as it will:

First round of problems I ever had here was from Perry fans all pissed off I was covering their band without their beloved singer.

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

I know Journey seems to attract a high proportion of nutters for some reason but still...it would be a bit odd for a specialist melodic rock site to sideline the forum devoted to the greatest melodic rock band of all-time....whilst allowing all the minnows of the genre lots of space.

[Lady Luck]

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

This might be a little far-fetched, but do you think this person has a direct connection to the Journey camp?

[nikki]

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

This might be a little far-fetched, but do you think this person has a direct connection to the Journey camp?

I was wondering the same thing myself. Either way, I think what they're doing could be considered defamation in some ways and Andrew should be able to work this out in the courts and shut them up. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I hope he takes this route.

[Red13JoePa]

Is she a fan of mine or does she hate me?

If she hates this board and all that it stands for - what do you think!!!

There is simply far too much drama sourrounding the band Journey and the forever divided fan base.

So it seems like either an AugeriDriveByShooter (the deep-seeded itch to burn this place down) or an ArnelKamikaze (playing of the race card).

[Perry86fan]

You know what dude, close the Journey Board. It makes absolutely NO sense to keep it open. Why give them any mention? We can rename it to whatever, we can all still come here and BS, and you can be rid of anything Journey.

That is under serious consideration. I no longer have the patience or the desire to put up with certain things...

Why not name it Andrews fourm???


I am tired of others putting this site down We all come to have a good time.And i think we do have a great time.Andrew thanks for giving us a great place to come to.

[Matthew]

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

This might be a little far-fetched, but do you think this person has a direct connection to the Journey camp?

Far-fetched is putting it mildly....

[nikki]

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

This might be a little far-fetched, but do you think this person has a direct connection to the Journey camp?

Far-fetched is putting it mildly....

Stranger things have happened. Bands pay alot more attention to forums like these than people think. It could range from someone within the camp to a periodical lurker. Regardless, they are incurring the wrath of many and they need to STFU.

[Matthew]

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

This might be a little far-fetched, but do you think this person has a direct connection to the Journey camp?

Far-fetched is putting it mildly....

Stranger things have happened. Bands pay alot more attention to forums like these than people think. It could range from someone within the camp to a periodical lurker. Regardless, they are incurring the wrath of many and they need to STFU.

Why would anyone in the Journey camp want to sabotage Andrew's concert? Look...I know everyone's on this hate kick since JSS left but this is all getting a bit twilight zone, don't you think?

[Gordon from Edinburgh]

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

This might be a little far-fetched, but do you think this person has a direct connection to the Journey camp?

Far-fetched is putting it mildly....

I don't think it is far fetched....it could be a someone who has carried out work for them - although i think its probably one of the pray team.... they were all nutters....

[Matthew]

Like I said earlier - there has ALWAYS been a problem with covering Journey. ALWAYS. 10 years of different bloody issues and crap and I've had enough!

This might be a little far-fetched, but do you think this person has a direct connection to the Journey camp?

Far-fetched is putting it mildly....

I don't think it is far fetched....it could be a someone who has carried out work for them - although i think its probably one of the pray team.... they were all nutters....

Gordon - what's the pray team? The BT positive vibes people?

[strangegrey]

Andrew, you took the right 'first' step.....Just rename this board to a general 'melodic rock discussion' board. Screw Journey...screw any association with it.

Most people post in here, on topic or off topic anyway....so leave it open to all discussion...

...and leave Journey in the dust.

[Matthew]

Andrew, you took the right 'first' step.....Just rename this board to a general 'melodic rock discussion' board. Screw Journey...screw any association with it.

Most people post in here, on topic or off topic anyway....so leave it open to all discussion...

...and leave Journey in the dust.

...says the man who runs a Journey site entitled The Journey Forums.