Predictions

by **Rick** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:42 am

I hope you do get it, but if not, being auditioned for it and being offered that, should say a whole lot. If you sing Perry's songs well enough to turn the bands heads in your direction.....well, enough said.

by **scarygirl** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:50 am

Jeremy,

Congrats on the kid. I saw you in Roanoke and you rocked!

Scarygirl

by **donnaplease** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:35 am

Jeremey wrote:Hey everyone, don't mean to hijack SJ's thread, but I can tell you that I'm totally occupied with baby stuff right now, and most likely will be through next year. I haven't heard anything from Journey in over a month, though I doubt that I've been in the running since July...This isn't smoke and mirrors, just the reality that I think Journey may have realized during my time in CA that I would have more occupying my mind from a family standpoint than they would have been comfortable with taking me on the road for 9 months at a time. This is not to say that I wasn't offered the job at one point, but a lot has happened since then, and I am totally fine with the situation as it stands now. I had a great time with the band, but suffice it to say if I had any other contact from the band at this point I would be amazed. It's impossible to predict what direction the band may take at this point, but I got to sit in with one of the greatest american rock bands for a week, and Irving Azoff bought me dinner, so that's enough for this ham and egger.

Jeremey, I still voted for you. Ya know, in reading your post above, and from what little bit I know about the whole thing, if they don't offer you the gig, I will think much less of them than I already do (if that is possible). And now I respect you even more than I already did for putting your family above the rockstar lifestyle.

You are definitely a good guy! Say 'hi' to Brina and Quinn for me.

by **Saint John** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:56 pm

Interesting poll results thus far. The "turnout" is low though.

by **styxman** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:59 pm

Saint John wrote:Interesting poll results thus far. The "turnout" is low though.

A reflection on the current lack of support towards Journey, maybe :!:

by **Jeremey** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:44 pm

Saint John wrote:Wow...if in fact you did ask for more time to make a decision or asked for a bit more than they were initially offering, my respect for you (which was VERY high in the first place) has increased by leaps and bounds. Please elaborate if you feel inclined.

Hey man, thanks a lot. As best as I can describe the offer without getting into too much, I left CA having attended a band meeting where several issues were raised, discussed, and resolved, and the position was offered to me. When I returned to VA, terms were discussed and agreed on, and I even got to the point of filling out tax paperwork for the band. Shortly thereafter, however, it became clear that the band wasn't all on the same page, and some felt they were moving too fast. At that point, I stepped away from the situation and told the band basically to sort out what they wanted to do and let me know when it got figured out. That's kind of where things stood throughout the summer, and adding on to my original post, I have the feeling that the band has turned their attention in other directions, which - considering my new family and the time I need to devote to being a part of that - is probably best for all parties involved at this point.

by **Jeremey** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:48 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Jeremey, having that fucking schister Azoff buy you dinner is NOT something to be proud of. I can see being blown away with Neal and Deen(not Frifa)...but Azoff? I would rather have dinner with Satan or W Bush than that old piece of sorotay(Mexican for "shit....working with beaners is kind of cool), Azoff.

Dean, you have to understand what all struggling musicians/bands go through their entire careers, trying to get noticed by the likes of Irving Azoff...When it comes to Irving, in the music business, that's about as high as you can get these days. It's a symbolic thing that other musicians would probably appreciate, just to be able to sit down and be recognized and complimented by someone who controls so much in this industry. I realize I am a one trick pony to those guys, and I know the reason why I was sitting at that table (it wasn't because Irving heard a demo of original songs and just had to meet me), but still, it was a pretty big deal in my world.

by **Saint John** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:50 pm

Jeremey wrote:
Saint John wrote:Wow...if in fact you did ask for more time to make a decision or asked for a bit more than they were initially offering, my respect for you (which was VERY high in the first place) has increased by leaps and bounds. Please elaborate if you feel inclined.

Hey man, thanks a lot. As best as I can describe the offer without getting into too much, I left CA having attended a band meeting where several issues were raised, discussed, and resolved, and the position was offered to me. When I returned to VA, terms were discussed and agreed on, and I even got to the point of filling out tax paperwork for the band. Shortly thereafter, however, it became clear that the band wasn't all on the same page, and some felt they were moving too fast. At that point, I stepped away from the situation and told the band basically to sort out what they wanted to do and let me know when it got figured out. That's kind of where things stood throughout the summer, and adding on to my original post, I have the feeling that the band has turned their attention in other directions, which - considering my new family and the time I need to devote to being a part of that - is probably best for all parties involved at this point.

Thanks for that awesome bit of information, best of happiness with the new addition to the family, and I sincerely hope that whatever direction this thing goes, it's the best for you and your family.

by **TigerBite** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:50 pm

Sorry, but SP shouldn't be in the running. Dreaming TOO big here folks. :wink:

He may not have admitted it yet (ego?) but me thinks he has retired from fronting ANY band.
Too busy buying real estate and bossing his subordinates around. :roll:

JMHO

by **ebake02** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:39 am

As much as I want perry back, number 1 seems the more realistic of the three

by **knox** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:04 am

Journey is done. I doubt they will even play Podunk County Fair again.

by **Escape Artist** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:09 am

Jeremey,

Would you still consider the position if it is offered again?

I hope you do get it if that is what you want.

I respect you for thinking of your family first if you decided against it.

by **Jeremey** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:36 am

Escape Artist wrote:Jeremey,

Would you still consider the position if it is offered again?

I hope you do get it if that is what you want.

I respect you for thinking of your family first if you decided against it.

EA, it took a lot of soul searching to accept the offer to begin with, but all things considered it seemed like a sacrifice that would have paid off in the long run. Now that my baby is here, the decision would be even more difficult...The reality is that Journey on the road is an express freight train that doesn't stop for many, many months (or years, just ask Steve Augeri). The road is what you make of it, and if I had the ability to make my time on the road as least stressful as possible for myself and my family, I would make it happen. The next lead singer of Journey won't have a lot of chips in the game, however. I'd take a look at the circumstances and what I thought I could make of it, and decide then.

by **Rhiannon** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:44 am

Jeremey wrote:EA, it took a lot of soul searching to accept the offer to begin with, but all things considered it seemed like a sacrifice that would have paid off in the long run. Now that my baby is here, the decision would be even more difficult...The reality is that Journey on the road is an express freight train that doesn't stop for many, many months (or years, just ask Steve Augeri). The road is what you make of it, and if I had the ability to make my time on the road as least stressful as possible for myself and my family, I would make it happen. The next lead singer of Journey won't have a lot of chips in the game, however. I'd take a look at the circumstances and what I thought I could make of it, and decide then.

Those are very wise words man.

by **Escape Artist** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:06 am

Blue Radio Girl wrote:
Jeremey wrote:EA, it took a lot of soul searching to accept the offer to begin with, but all things considered it seemed like a sacrifice that would have paid off in the long run. Now that my baby is here, the decision would be even more difficult...The reality is that Journey on the road is an express freight train that doesn't stop for many, many months (or years, just ask Steve Augeri). The road is what you make of it, and if I had the ability to make my time on the road as least stressful as possible for myself and my family, I would make it happen. The next lead singer of Journey won't have a lot of chips in the game, however. I'd take a look at the circumstances and what I thought I could make of it, and decide then.

Those are very wise words man.

Indeed, wise.

Thanks Jeremey best to you and your family.

by **summergirl** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:53 am

Jeremey wrote:
Saint John wrote: I left CA having attended a band meeting where several issues were raised, discussed, and resolved, and the position was offered to me. When I returned to VA, terms were discussed and agreed on, and I even got to the point of filling out tax paperwork for the band. Shortly thereafter, however, it became clear that the band wasn't all on the same page....

This is unbelievable to me, the way they f--- with people's lives. They offer Jeremy the position of lead singer, then immediately backtrack. How could they offer him the job, if they weren't absoloutely sure??? It makes no sense! They hire Jeff as the lead singer, announce it to the world, then dump him (after he came in and saved their tour). What is wrong with these guys? I cannot understand why no one is advising them on how to run a band, or even to act like human beings. This is just ridiculous. One bad decision after another. I guess Neal is as fickle with his singers as he is with his wives.

by **mikemarrs** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:04 am

jeremey. i think you made the right decision.family is way more important.don't want to look up five years from now and realize you missed all that time with your kids and can't gain it back.with the track record they have with lead singers lately i'd certainly be wary even though you are right that it is a once in a lifetime thing.

i have two children.one was born in november '04 the other in november of '05.i gave up my sports car and bought a mini van and changed my hours and did a few other things i didn't want to do but i don't regret it.i couldn't imagine being away from my kids for a long period of time.if you do get the job i wish you luck and hope it works out for you.....

by **fredinator** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:37 pm

Just voted Arnel after listening to "Faithfully." I still think they can polish up his English especially if he has a burning desire to sing for Journey.

by **STORY_TELLER** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:16 pm

Perry coming back is fantasy. He'll never tour again. If we get new studio recordings from him I'll be surprised (and grateful). Maybe, at best, someday he'll do a couple of california based solo shows in one venue for a few nights, but a tour? Never happen.

I voted Arnel just because it's what I believe will happen, not because it's what I want to happen.

I'd prefer Jeremy over Arnel. I listened to all Arnel's youtube Journey clips. The accent debate? Eh, it's barely noticeable, if at all. My issue is he's just not good enough. Dean's a better singer than he is. So is Jeremy. Arnel sounds better on Survivor material. On Journey, he's barely hitting the notes. He's struggling to stay up there. He has little breath control. Can't hold a note for very long. If he tours, his voice will be gone half way through and we'll have tape gate all over again. If he's announced as lead singer, I won't attend the shows. My wife and I were disappointed enough with the Generations tour when we paid a lot of money to hear songs which were barely sung in pitch. At best, I'd have to see/hear youtube clips of Arnel with the band before I even consider paying good money to see them live.

Jeremy, best to you and yours and thanks for popping in with some info. And uhhh... now that you have made a connection to Azoff, perhaps it's time to start working on those originals, eh? Can you say 'opening act'?

by **weatherman90** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:39 pm

Perry's coming back!

Ok, I'm done dreaming now....

by **Escape Artist** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:59 am

fredinator wrote:Just voted Arnel after listening to "Faithfully." I still think they can polish up his English especially if he has a burning desire to sing for Journey.

He who shall not be mentioned will never front Journey.

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:40 am

"Prediction?

Pain."

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:45 am

Red13JoePa wrote:"Prediction?

Pain."

by **ohsherrie** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:07 am

Thanks for updating us Jeremey. You're priorities and attitude in this situation say that you're probably a much too decent and honest person to be part of what is now calling itself Journey.

Say hi to Brina and give Quinn a hug for me.

I can't wait for the next Frontiers show.

If Jeremey is out of the running I couldn't care less what Journey does.

by **Nunnayerbiz Ness** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:25 am

Jeremey wrote:
Saint John wrote:Wow...if in fact you did ask for more time to make a decision or asked for a bit more than they were initially offering, my respect for you (which was VERY high in the first place) has increased by leaps and bounds. Please elaborate if you feel inclined.

Hey man, thanks a lot. As best as I can describe the offer without getting into too much, I left CA having attended a band meeting where several issues were raised, discussed, and resolved, and the position was offered to me. When I returned to VA, terms were discussed and agreed on, and I even got to the point of filling out tax paperwork for the band. Shortly thereafter, however, it became clear that the band wasn't all on the same page, and some felt they were moving too fast. At that point, I stepped away from the situation and told the band basically to sort out what they wanted to do and let me know when it got figured out. That's kind of where things stood throughout the summer, and adding on to my original post, I have the feeling that the band has turned their attention in other directions, which - considering my new family and the time I need to devote to being a part of that - is probably best for all parties involved at this point.

It aint rocket science to see it's Frig versus Fro again! It's no surprise Deen & Ross have NO say in ANYTHING to do with the band except for showing up to the gigs. If you've heard the recent JSS interview with Eddie Trunk, he mentions how Frig was resistant to him coming in until Jeff proved himself a worthy entity. Jeff was Neal's wonderboy even though he shit on him twice. Judging by all Neal said in latter interviews, even the way he (didn't much) interacted with SA onstage, SA was Frig's wonderboy. Obviously these 2 can't agree on much of anything except for 'it's time to pad our wallets with a tour'. How sad for a band so many love, admire & respect....well, nowadays 1 out of 3!!

by **Nunnayerbiz Ness** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:28 am

Jeremey wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Jeremey, having that fucking schister Azoff buy you dinner is NOT something to be proud of. I can see being blown away with Neal and Deen(not Frifa)...but Azoff? I would rather have dinner with Satan or W Bush than that old piece of sorotay(Mexican for "shit....working with beaners is kind of cool), Azoff.

Dean, you have to understand what all struggling musicians/bands go through their entire careers, trying to get noticed by the likes of Irving Azoff...When it comes to Irving, in the music business, that's about as high as you can get these days. It's a symbolic thing that other musicians would probably appreciate, just to be able to sit down and be recognized and complimented by someone who controls so much in this industry. I realize I am a one trick pony to those guys, and I know the reason why I was sitting at that table (it wasn't because Irving heard a demo of original songs and just had to meet me), but still, it was a pretty big deal in my world.

Jeremey, no disrespect but I remember hearing how Azoff himself praised JSS & was beyond excited with what he would be bringing to the table. Deals were being discussed all the way till the last week of Jeff's firing, Azoff knows business, he knows how to put it on when necessary, he's not where he is because he's an honest, loyal friend to anyone. Not to say he wasn't genuine with you but he gave JSS & SA the same spew, look how they ended up.

by **Escape Artist** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:49 am

ohsherrie wrote:
If Jeremey is out of the running I couldn't care less what Journey does.

Ditto, man it's just one stupid decision after another with these guys, it boggles the mind.

by **Monker** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:40 pm

Jeremey wrote:however, it became clear that the band wasn't all on the same page, and some felt they were moving too fast

They were, and had been since Augeri was let go.

Looking at as many people as they can before they make a decision is the most sane thing I have heard from this situation in a VERY long time.

by **summergirl** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:44 pm

Monker wrote:
Jeremey wrote:however, it became clear that the band wasn't all on the same page, and some felt they were moving too fast

They were, and had been since Augeri was let go.

Looking at as many people as they can before they make a decision is the most sane thing I have heard from this situation in a VERY long time.

Too bad they didn't think of that before they offered him the job.

by **Eric** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:32 am

Rockindeano wrote:Jeremey, having that fucking schister Azoff buy you dinner is NOT something to be proud of. I can see being blown away with Neal and Deen(not Frifa)...but Azoff? I would rather have dinner with Satan or W Bush than that old piece of sorotay(Mexican for "shit....working with beaners is kind of cool), Azoff.

HAH....You are now RockinBeano

MR

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