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Postby wastingbeerz » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:52 am

Here goes... probably get blasted on this one... especially with it being my first post and all... keep in mind he's not a Perry soundalike by any means... but would do everyone justice....


JOE LYNN TURNER!!!


Yeah, I know, no chance of that EVER happening... but personally, IF Arnel gets the job... I think he will do well... I don't really understand what everyone has against him. From what I've seen recently, Journey has more fair-weather fans than just about any other band. Granted, they shouldn't have let a talent as great as JSS go, but until we know what exactly is going on, we shouldn't sit here and bash a band that we have absolutely no idea what their current reasoning state is. Arnel, Jeremey, Hugo, Kevin Chalfant, ...STEVE PERRY? I'll support just about any great singer who comes along for the band and does the catalog (and hopefully NEW material) justice!!!


How's that for a FIRST post on the board?
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:58 am

Agreed! Not sold on chalfant..Heard some of his stuff,wasn't impressed..Joe Lynn Turner is alright,no one brought him up because its not going to happen..I really liked Augeri,I was upset when I heard he got broomed..Perry won't be back!
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Postby EightyRock » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:06 am

The problem with him and every other well known singer (that wouldn't make them look like a bunch of amateurs) is that no well known respected in the industry singer is gonna touch them with a ten foot pole. Besides they don't want to PAY anybody the kind of cash they'd expect, if they were a well known vocalist. That same well known vocalist would want to be a significant part any writing process, too, not just be a dirty dozen puppet.
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby stevew2 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:09 am

wastingbeerz wrote:Here goes... probably get blasted on this one... especially with it being my first post and all... keep in mind he's not a Perry soundalike by any means... but would do everyone justice....


JOE LYNN TURNER!!!


Yeah, I know, no chance of that EVER happening... but personally, IF Arnel gets the job... I think he will do well... I don't really understand what everyone has against him. From what I've seen recently, Journey has more fair-weather fans than just about any other band. Granted, they shouldn't have let a talent as great as JSS go, but until we know what exactly is going on, we shouldn't sit here and bash a band that we have absolutely no idea what their current reasoning state is. Arnel, Jeremey, Hugo, Kevin Chalfant, ...STEVE PERRY? I'll support just about any great singer who comes along for the band and does the catalog (and hopefully NEW material) justice!!!


How's that for a FIRST post on the board?
Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:14 am

I dont' think he was referring to people on this board,just people in general..Relax!
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby wastingbeerz » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:38 am

stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey


Britney Spears? No, I was talking about singers who have TALENT. I guess I already see what the problem with this board is. Nothing better to do than sit here and rag on others. That's you, isn't it? Sitting there in your parents basement, I would imagine, as the rest of us get ready for work in the real world? And sorry, but I've never been to a bad Journey show, with either Steve A. or JSS. I'll be the first to admit they dropped the ball when they let Jeff got... also the first to admit that I was skeptical of Arnel at first and thought the whole thing with him was a joke... UNTIL I heard him sing and nail the Journey material. WHEN Journey proves to me they can no longer put on a decent show with whomever they decide on as lead singer... then, and ONLY then will I abandon them. There HAS to be some sort of reasoning behind what they're doing. When they prove me wrong, I'll admit it. And my bet is still on the fact that this could all be an elaborate SP reunion hoax. Before you say ANYTHING else from the comfort of that basement, remember that i said my bet is on the fact that this COULD be a hoax. And I fail to see how we've been "fucked and lied to from a band" whenever they are still out there trying to entertain us. You probably think Ozzy is the only singer for Sabbath too, don't you? A SINGER IS NOT THE BAND. PERIOD. Unless he writes ALL the songs by himself.
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Postby wastingbeerz » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:39 am

Journey69 wrote:I dont' think he was referring to people on this board,just people in general..Relax!


No, I wasn't... just people who get immature off the bat like him.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:45 am

Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey


***Apologies to those who have seen this before***

You people just don't get it do you? The average Journey fan could CARE LESS who is singing, as long as they sound good and it is the dirty dozen + or - a song or two.

We care because we aren't average Journey fans, and we just don't like what they did to Jeff. But that is our emotions talking.

Journey is going to tour middle sized venues and some larger outdoor venues next summer and make millions, no matter who they have on vox.

It's the music the average fan cares about. As long as they have the name Journey they will attract an audience.

Sure it would be BIGGER with Perry, but that won't ever happen. So Schon and Cain, Ross and Deen and whatever singer it ends up being will be on the road playing to 8 to 10 thousand people a night and those are the facts. Like them or not.

Somehow comforting youself with the inane notion that Journey is going to be playing county fairs is juts plain wrong. Did they handle everything with Jeff right...absolutely not...it was disgraceful, but to the average fan who just wants to go hear the music on a warm summer night it doesn't matter and that average fan will shell out the $$$ to see Journey and listen to the dirty dozen and relive their youth.

Be mad at Journey that's fine at least though don't blind yourselves with emotion and think that because of how Journey hurt Jeff it will make an iota of difference in the amount of money they are going to make next tour, because it won't.
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:47 am

How exactly was that immature.He started a post,wrote what was on his mind and didn't attack anyone (like you did) or said anything negative..You attacked him right out of the gate,for what..Because you didn't agree with him..Seriously,what's with all the hate on this board,I just don't get it..
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby stevew2 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:04 am

wastingbeerz wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey


Britney Spears? No, I was talking about singers who have TALENT. I guess I already see what the problem with this board is. Nothing better to do than sit here and rag on others. That's you, isn't it? Sitting there in your parents basement, I would imagine, as the rest of us get ready for work in the real world? And sorry, but I've never been to a bad Journey show, with either Steve A. or JSS. I'll be the first to admit they dropped the ball when they let Jeff got... also the first to admit that I was skeptical of Arnel at first and thought the whole thing with him was a joke... UNTIL I heard him sing and nail the Journey material. WHEN Journey proves to me they can no longer put on a decent show with whomever they decide on as lead singer... then, and ONLY then will I abandon them. There HAS to be some sort of reasoning behind what they're doing. When they prove me wrong, I'll admit it. And my bet is still on the fact that this could all be an elaborate SP reunion hoax. Before you say ANYTHING else from the comfort of that basement, remember that i said my bet is on the fact that this COULD be a hoax. And I fail to see how we've been "fucked and lied to from a band" whenever they are still out there
trying to entertain us. You probably think Ozzy is the only singer for Sabbath too, don't you? A SINGER IS NOT THE BAND. PERIOD. Unless he writes ALL the songs by himself.
I am writing from my own house, and on the second floor,although my basement is nice to.You are obviously a casual fan,and dont have a fucking clue. You havent been to a bad Journey show?Thats what you think.You were hearing taped vocals on alot of the songs,you problablly dont know or care about that,as long as you were entertained,if that wasnt bad enough they dumped the next singer,and dont even have the balls to tell him.There is no way you ll understand where I coming from
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:07 am

There's no way JLT could sing the Journey catalogue night in and night out. He doesn't have the range anymore. I like his recent stuff but his voice is obviously not what it once was. The only way he could do it would be for them to transpose those suckers down or go to tapes again... :lol:
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:14 am

stevew2 wrote:
wastingbeerz wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey


Britney Spears? No, I was talking about singers who have TALENT. I guess I already see what the problem with this board is. Nothing better to do than sit here and rag on others. That's you, isn't it? Sitting there in your parents basement, I would imagine, as the rest of us get ready for work in the real world? And sorry, but I've never been to a bad Journey show, with either Steve A. or JSS. I'll be the first to admit they dropped the ball when they let Jeff got... also the first to admit that I was skeptical of Arnel at first and thought the whole thing with him was a joke... UNTIL I heard him sing and nail the Journey material. WHEN Journey proves to me they can no longer put on a decent show with whomever they decide on as lead singer... then, and ONLY then will I abandon them. There HAS to be some sort of reasoning behind what they're doing. When they prove me wrong, I'll admit it. And my bet is still on the fact that this could all be an elaborate SP reunion hoax. Before you say ANYTHING else from the comfort of that basement, remember that i said my bet is on the fact that this COULD be a hoax. And I fail to see how we've been "fucked and lied to from a band" whenever they are still out there
trying to entertain us. You probably think Ozzy is the only singer for Sabbath too, don't you? A SINGER IS NOT THE BAND. PERIOD. Unless he writes ALL the songs by himself.
I am writing from my own house, and on the second floor,although my basement is nice to.You are obviously a casual fan,and dont have a fucking clue. You havent been to a bad Journey show?Thats what you think.You were hearing taped vocals on alot of the songs,you problablly dont know or care about that,as long as you were entertained,if that wasnt bad enough they dumped the next singer,and dont even have the balls to tell him.There is no way you ll understand where I coming from


I suppose when your 1st response to the guy right out of the gate is attacking him,I would have thought your 16 too..Also,if you don't know they were dubbing Augeri,doesn't mean you are stupid..You didn't freaking know! Don't tell fans who are open minded they don't care..I care as much as the next guy..I just want more music,it does not have to be with SP..I would only hear ballads from him now,that's all he writes anymore..If he isn't going to do frontiers or escape type music,I don't want him in the band..He's 50 freaking 8 years old..I would rather have a younger guy in there myself.. I'm writing this from my office at my job!
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby stevew2 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:19 am

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wastingbeerz wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey


Britney Spears? No, I was talking about singers who have TALENT. I guess I already see what the problem with this board is. Nothing better to do than sit here and rag on others. That's you, isn't it? Sitting there in your parents basement, I would imagine, as the rest of us get ready for work in the real world? And sorry, but I've never been to a bad Journey show, with either Steve A. or JSS. I'll be the first to admit they dropped the ball when they let Jeff got... also the first to admit that I was skeptical of Arnel at first and thought the whole thing with him was a joke... UNTIL I heard him sing and nail the Journey material. WHEN Journey proves to me they can no longer put on a decent show with whomever they decide on as lead singer... then, and ONLY then will I abandon them. There HAS to be some sort of reasoning behind what they're doing. When they prove me wrong, I'll admit it. And my bet is still on the fact that this could all be an elaborate SP reunion hoax. Before you say ANYTHING else from the comfort of that basement, remember that i said my bet is on the fact that this COULD be a hoax. And I fail to see how we've been "fucked and lied to from a band" whenever they are still out there
trying to entertain us. You probably think Ozzy is the only singer for Sabbath too, don't you? A SINGER IS NOT THE BAND. PERIOD. Unless he writes ALL the songs by himself.
I am writing from my own house, and on the second floor,although my basement is nice to.You are obviously a casual fan,and dont have a fucking clue. You havent been to a bad Journey show?Thats what you think.You were hearing taped vocals on alot of the songs,you problablly dont know or care about that,as long as you were entertained,if that wasnt bad enough they dumped the next singer,and dont even have the balls to tell him.There is no way you ll understand where I coming from


I suppose when your 1st response to the guy right out of the gate is attacking him,I would have thought your 16 too..Also,if you don't know they were dubbing Augeri,doesn't mean you are stupid..You didn't freaking know! Don't tell fans who are open minded they don't care..I care as much as the next guy..I just want more music,it does not have to be with SP..I would only hear ballads from him now,that's all he writes anymore..If he isn't going to do frontiers or escape type music,I don't want him in the band..He's 50 freaking 8 years old..I would rather have a younger guy in there myself.. I'm writing this from my office at my job!
You mean you are getting paid for doing this??
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:22 am

Yep..and its called multitasking..
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby ScarabGator » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:42 am

wastingbeerz wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey


Britney Spears? No, I was talking about singers who have TALENT. I guess I already see what the problem with this board is. Nothing better to do than sit here and rag on others. That's you, isn't it? Sitting there in your parents basement, I would imagine, as the rest of us get ready for work in the real world? And sorry, but I've never been to a bad Journey show, with either Steve A. or JSS. I'll be the first to admit they dropped the ball when they let Jeff got... also the first to admit that I was skeptical of Arnel at first and thought the whole thing with him was a joke... UNTIL I heard him sing and nail the Journey material. WHEN Journey proves to me they can no longer put on a decent show with whomever they decide on as lead singer... then, and ONLY then will I abandon them. There HAS to be some sort of reasoning behind what they're doing. When they prove me wrong, I'll admit it. And my bet is still on the fact that this could all be an elaborate SP reunion hoax. Before you say ANYTHING else from the comfort of that basement, remember that i said my bet is on the fact that this COULD be a hoax. And I fail to see how we've been "fucked and lied to from a band" whenever they are still out there trying to entertain us. You probably think Ozzy is the only singer for Sabbath too, don't you? A SINGER IS NOT THE BAND. PERIOD. Unless he writes ALL the songs by himself.


Amen to everything you just said!!! It is good to see their are open minded Journey fans still out there, and you know what? Ive seen a bunch coming on this board lately and defending them against the haters. THats awesome!!! And usually the reply you get back is what you got back on your first post. Thats too bad. As ive said you'd think if they hated Journey so much they would abondon this board and just move on down the line to the JSS board. They dont even have to leave Melodicrock!!! I doubt SP will ever sing again, at least with this band. It would be great if he would but he just wants to fade into the sunset and not look back. I still wish Jeremey was the new singer although I dont think he wishes that anymore from reading the blogs. If you can try to check out Jeremey's band Frontiers if your on this side of the country-they are terrific!!!
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Postby journeywoman » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:15 am

I thought I told you to never call a rockstar old.After all Neal and the boys are not young anymore themselves.Like I said If Ronnie Dio can bringit , all the older ones can too!Never say never! Now ,how about that MR party this weekend?????
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:25 am

The party looks awesome..However,I already have plans this weekend..Ok,let me revise my statement..not old,tired! Some of those guys ,usually everyone but the lead singer can play..Voices change as you get older..Even when I saw Boston in concert,Brad Delp said before the concert that he can't hit the high notes anymore and that Fran Cosmos would help him with it..RIP Brad.. He and Steve Perry...Best singers I have ever witnessed IMO!!
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Postby journeywoman » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:26 am

And I'm not getting paid for this.
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Postby strangegrey » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:33 am

I always thought JLT was a "Steve Perry with Balls"...

In fact, before Augeri was announced, I was so convinced that the first guy Neal would call, would be JLT, knowing Neal's obsession with getting Journey to rock out more. Strangely (and sadly) that never materialized.

I don't know enough about JLT's range now, to comment on whether he could work in the band...but part of the problem is that certain twinkletoad dickwads in Journey refuse to tune down and tour smartly....both of which are of paramount importance to the singer.....but time is short when you've got ex-wives to pay off. So really, anyone that does sing for this band, is going to have to have a stellar range with a nearly inhuman stamina.
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:49 am

JTL was awesome with Yngwie..Loved the songs he wrote..I always thought back then he sounded like Perry..Just don't know if his voice would hold up doing constant concerts..That's why most of the older guys like to cut albums and tour sporadically..IMO
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby yak » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:55 am

stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey




Good post!

People coming out of the woodwork from everywhere, it seems. :roll:
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:02 am

How about Gretchen Wilson..Did you hear her sing Barracuda..Holy Sh*t..what a voice!
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby strangegrey » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:09 am

yak wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey




Good post!

People coming out of the woodwork from everywhere, it seems. :roll:


I dunno, i thought the post was spot on!
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby styxman » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:11 am

strangegrey wrote:
yak wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey




Good post!

People coming out of the woodwork from everywhere, it seems. :roll:


I dunno, i thought the post was spot on!


Stop trying to poach newbies :wink:
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Postby journeywoman » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:13 am

Journey69 wrote:How about Gretchen Wilson..Did you hear her sing Barracuda..Holy Sh*t..what a voice!
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby strangegrey » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:22 am

styxman wrote:Stop trying to poach newbies :wink:


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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:42 am

and she's a small little girl..I'm not much of a country fan,but I'm about to buy some of her stuff off itunes! I still have that vh1 special taped on my dvr,I might just watch it again tonight..wow!
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Postby journeywoman » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:48 am

Just goes to show ya that country girls can sing more than just country.If you have ever heard her talk about who influenced her most she will say Heart of course and Led Zepplin as many other rock n roll bands.
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Re: An outta left field choice for Journey...

Postby stevew2 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:50 am

styxman wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
yak wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Your first post sucks. Journey has no "reasoning state" Most people here arent fair weather fans. We have been fucked and lied to from a band that we admired and spent alot of $$ and time to go see.You would be satisfied with anyone fronting the band. How about Brittney Spears? As long as she does the catalog for you that would work for you.Fuck the catalog,fuck Journey[/quot



Good post!

People coming out of the woodwork from everywhere, it seems. :roll:


I dunno, i thought the post was spot on!
thanks

Stop trying to poach newbies :wink:
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Postby Journey69 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:51 am

Why doesn't she have a rock band then? I don't get that...? I would be all over her music! :)
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