AP unofficially not confirmed

by **Escape Artist** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:03 am

It seems to me if AP really is "the guy" that it would have leaked all over the filipino press by now, you know local boy does good kinda thing?
Just thinking out loud... carry on.

by **journeyrock** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:17 am

Who knows!

by **xflajrnylvr** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:06 am

and Better yet Who Fu**in cares??????????

by **wildone** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:23 am

xflajrnylvr wrote:and Better yet Who Fu**in cares??????????

.....wait........nope not me.... :lol:

by **journeyrock** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:58 am

wildone wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:and Better yet Who Fu**in cares??????????
.....wait........nope not me....

I second that.... :lol:

by **Perrydise** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:02 am

journeyrock wrote:
wildone wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:and Better yet Who Fu**in cares??????????
.....wait........nope not me....
I second that....

Include me in that.

by **brandonx76** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:07 pm

Well, Andrew did indicate something to the effect of 'If you believe the rumors on the internet'...

Less talk, more music

by **Saint John** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:25 pm

Arnel is not now, nor was he ever, being seriously considered for the band. Time will prove that he will not sing with Journey. Nothing against him...I think he's great, but he's not a serious candidate for the position. Period.

by **brandonx76** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:29 pm

Saint John wrote:Arnel is not now, nor was he ever, being seriously considered for the band. Time will prove that he will not sing with Journey. Nothing against him...I think he's great, but he's not a serious candidate for the position. Period.

Are you implying Drew was spreading rumors?? Just want to be clear.

by **Saint John** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:36 pm

brandonpfn wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arnel is not now, nor was he ever, being seriously considered for the band. Time will prove that he will not sing with Journey. Nothing against him...I think he's great, but he's not a serious candidate for the position. Period.

Are you implying Drew was spreading rumors?? Just want to be clear.

Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

by **journeyrock** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:10 pm

Saint John wrote:
brandonpfn wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arnel is not now, nor was he ever, being seriously considered for the band. Time will prove that he will not sing with Journey. Nothing against him...I think he's great, but he's not a serious candidate for the position. Period.

Are you implying Drew was spreading rumors?? Just want to be clear.

Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

excellent point! That kinda says it in a nutshell.

by **stevew2** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:47 pm

Escape Artist wrote:It seems to me if AP really is "the guy" that it would have leaked all over the filipino press by now, you know local boy does good kinda thing?
Just thinking out loud... carry on.

They have newspapers over there? so cool

by **brandonx76** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:14 pm

Saint John wrote:
brandonpfn wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arnel is not now, nor was he ever, being seriously considered for the band. Time will prove that he will not sing with Journey. Nothing against him...I think he's great, but he's not a serious candidate for the position. Period.

Are you implying Drew was spreading rumors?? Just want to be clear.

Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

Depends on how you look at it. They were excited about Jeff...and they are still optimistic. So it's kinda truthful...

The tape gate thing was a disgrace...

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:30 pm

Saint John wrote:Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

But Journey hasn't said *anything* about Arnel, or anyone, for that matter. The fact that the origin point of the news does not stem from your by-the-numbers Azoff press release, is reason enough to place more stock in it.

Let's be realistic.
In addition to being the 24/7 resident turd picker-upper of this forum, Andrew also has a part-time job as a rock journalist. There are numerous other channels of information at his disposal besides the most direct and obvious.

by **Saint John** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:33 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Saint John wrote:Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

But Journey hasn't said *anything* about Arnel, or anyone, for that matter. The fact that the origin point of the news does not stem from your by-the-numbers Azoff press release, is reason enough to place more stock in it.

Let's be realistic.
In addition to being the 24/7 resident turd picker-upper of this forum, Andrew also has a part-time job as a rock journalist. There are numerous other channels of information at his disposal besides the most direct and obvious.

Journey couldn't say *anything* about Arnel if they wanted to. He's under contract til the end of the year with MCA, or I suspect we would get that "by-the-numbers" bullshit press release.

by **SteveForever** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:00 am

Saint John wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Saint John wrote:Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

But Journey hasn't said *anything* about Arnel, or anyone, for that matter. The fact that the origin point of the news does not stem from your by-the-numbers Azoff press release, is reason enough to place more stock in it.

Let's be realistic.
In addition to being the 24/7 resident turd picker-upper of this forum, Andrew also has a part-time job as a rock journalist. There are numerous other channels of information at his disposal besides the most direct and obvious.

Journey couldn't say *anything* about Arnel if they wanted to. He's under contract til the end of the year with MCA, or I suspect we would get that "by-the-numbers" bullshit press release.

Azoff has pulled off huge negotiations with bands that said Never Again!
I'm just sayin.....

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:09 am

SteveForever wrote:
Saint John wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Saint John wrote:Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

But Journey hasn't said *anything* about Arnel, or anyone, for that matter. The fact that the origin point of the news does not stem from your by-the-numbers Azoff press release, is reason enough to place more stock in it.

Let's be realistic.
In addition to being the 24/7 resident turd picker-upper of this forum, Andrew also has a part-time job as a rock journalist. There are numerous other channels of information at his disposal besides the most direct and obvious.

Journey couldn't say *anything* about Arnel if they wanted to. He's under contract til the end of the year with MCA, or I suspect we would get that "by-the-numbers" bullshit press release.

Azoff has pulled off huge negotiations with bands that said Never Again!
I'm just sayin.....

Great point. The Police were the number one concert of the summer, raking in 91 million bucks for a short tour. Journey has to be licking their chops at the thought of Perry returning and helping them gross in one small tour what they would over the next 5 years. I have a feeling they'll cave to just about all of his demands should he be willing to tour.

by **SteveForever** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:19 am

The Eagles said no way, never and look...ta da...new album together released right now.
People that have inside information are not talking, there is no way that Arnel is the
new front man for Journey, although he does sing beautifully.

Anything is possible as long as people are still alive, and then again even if they are dead=
look at the song Nat. Cole made with her dad and now Lisa Marie has one out with her dad....
I believe anything can happen. Although I would pray that Journey peeps wouldn't wait that long!

*cue the hate from the usual suspects... :roll:

by **Escape Artist** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:14 am

SteveForever wrote:The Eagles said no way, never and look...ta da...new album together released right now.
People that have inside information are not talking, there is no way that Arnel is the
new front man for Journey, although he does sing beautifully.

Anything is possible as long as people are still alive, and then again even if they are dead=
look at the song Nat. Cole made with her dad and now Lisa Marie has one out with her dad....
I believe anything can happen. Although I would pray that Journey peeps wouldn't wait that long!

*cue the hate from the usual suspects...

No hate from me, Could it happen? Who knows? I for one wish that it would... get Perry back or hang it the fuck up!

by **journeyrock** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:45 am

No hate from me, Could it happen? Who knows? I for one wish that it would... get Perry back or hang it the fuck up!

That is EXACTLY my sentiments, EA....EXACTLY! And I've heard rumor to the effect that THAT is what the two nitwits have been told.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:38 pm

Saint John wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Saint John wrote:Absolutely not. What I do think is that Drew, like many others, is believing what Journey says and appears do be doing, when history has shown us that what we "hear" they're doing is never really the case. Remember, Journey also told us that Augeri never used pre-recorded vocals and that they were excited to have Jeff as their new singer and were optimistic about the future. How truthful was that?

But Journey hasn't said *anything* about Arnel, or anyone, for that matter. The fact that the origin point of the news does not stem from your by-the-numbers Azoff press release, is reason enough to place more stock in it.

Let's be realistic.
In addition to being the 24/7 resident turd picker-upper of this forum, Andrew also has a part-time job as a rock journalist. There are numerous other channels of information at his disposal besides the most direct and obvious.

Journey couldn't say *anything* about Arnel if they wanted to. He's under contract til the end of the year with MCA, or I suspect we would get that "by-the-numbers" bullshit press release.

Perhaps so, but that does little to bolster the argument that Andrew is simply taking his lead from Journey.
If he's gone so far as to categorically claim Arnel the guy, you can take it to the bank.

by **squirt1** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:00 pm

I think if they did 5 huge dates with Perry he could ask 65% of the net profit and it would be more than Journey has seen in all the total years since 1996 . Catalog sales would zoom. It would be nat'l news like everytime Perry shows up anywhere. Probably it would get them in the R & R HOF, but I don't think much of them. St John you save me typing and say things much better !

by **StoneCold** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:41 pm

squirt1 wrote:I think if they did 5 huge dates with Perry he could ask 65% of the net profit and it would be more than Journey has seen in all the total years since 1996 . Catalog sales would zoom. It would be nat'l news like everytime Perry shows up anywhere. Probably it would get them in the R & R HOF, but I don't think much of them. St John you save me typing and say things much better !

Some say this AP stuff is a smokescreen for Perry returning. I hope that's true but REALLY doubt it.

2006 would've been the year to do it. I don't think we'll ever see SP with them again.

by **brandonx76** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:12 pm

squirt1 wrote:I think if they did 5 huge dates with Perry he could ask 65% of the net profit and it would be more than Journey has seen in all the total years since 1996 . Catalog sales would zoom. It would be nat'l news like everytime Perry shows up anywhere. Probably it would get them in the R & R HOF, but I don't think much of them. St John you save me typing and say things much better !

It would be real interesting to know the take home pay from individual band members, from the recent reunions such as Van Halen...The Police, Genesis..

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:32 pm

I'll make everyone happy. I'm willing to bet that Steve Perry fronts Journey in 2008, releases a record with them or does his own solo record or song (completely alone). If he does NOT do one of the above I'll leave this board forever AND I'll kiss Monker's bare ass. Fair enough?

by **bionic** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:48 pm

Saint John wrote:I'll make everyone happy. I'm willing to bet that Steve Perry fronts Journey in 2008, releases a record with them or does his own solo record or song (completely alone). If he does NOT do one of the above I'll leave this board forever AND I'll kiss Monker's bare ass. Fair enough?

The fact is no matter what singer they get with the exception of Perry they are on their last legs as a band and i have serious doubts that the tours will do good buisness!
I truly belive that if Perry is able to tour with them he will, its the only way to save the Journey name, and i am quite sure that there have been steps to try and put the Escape line up together again BUT if that happens is another matter.
Journey as thay stand today have become laughable :cry:

by **bionic** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:51 pm

StoneCold wrote:
squirt1 wrote:I think if they did 5 huge dates with Perry he could ask 65% of the net profit and it would be more than Journey has seen in all the total years since 1996 . Catalog sales would zoom. It would be nat'l news like everytime Perry shows up anywhere. Probably it would get them in the R & R HOF, but I don't think much of them. St John you save me typing and say things much better !

Some say this AP stuff is a smokescreen for Perry returning. I hope that's true but REALLY doubt it.

2006 would've been the year to do it. I don't think we'll ever see SP with them again.

I doubt it is a smokescreen, if Perry was to return i would imagine the band would be expected to remain on hold with no talk of any singer except Perry should he be ready to announce.

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:07 pm

Journey is done...minus Perry. I don't give a fuck if they dig up Liberace's semen infested bones and Elvis's drug and Big Mac riddled abdomen to sing. Cain, I dare you to present anyone other than Perry. Keep your fucking lounge singer from Laos to yourself. We know better.

by **Escape Artist** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:26 am

Saint John wrote:Journey is done...minus Perry. I don't give a fuck if they dig up Liberace's semen infested bones and Elvis's drug and Big Mac riddled abdomen to sing. Cain, I dare you to present anyone other than Perry. Keep your fucking lounge singer from Laos to yourself. We know better.

by **brandonx76** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:25 am

Saint John wrote:Journey is done...minus Perry. I don't give a fuck if they dig up Liberace's semen infested bones and Elvis's drug and Big Mac riddled abdomen to sing. Cain, I dare you to present anyone other than Perry. Keep your fucking lounge singer from Laos to yourself. We know better.

That's just wrong, man.

MR

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