concert where opening act blew the headliner off the stage

[Rip Rokken]

Hey, how about headliner bands that sabotage their opening acts for fear of being upstaged? I read about this all the time -- making them play in way too small an area of stage, unplugging their gear, or forcing them to sing without monitors. It's especially fun when you hear of an opening band getting too huge a pop from the crowd, and the headliner throws a hissy fit and starts pulling stunts like that partway thru the show.

Anyone come to mind?

[Mark H]

I'll throw a couple in:

WhiteLion > Skid row> Motley Crue - Birmingham NEC about 91/92
Journey > Whitesnake >Def Leppard - Oberhausen Germany 2006
Blackfoot > Scorpions - Apollo Manchester 1980
Hardline> Extreme - Wembley Arena about a million years ago (all those 16 year old girls screaming Nuno)

[Indyjoe]

true, the show was fun. lots of sing along, feel good stuff, crowd interaction. Lep was just on a different level than Journey. for me anyway.

I am prolly being a little harsh on the Leps--I just went to see Journey, that's all. I might have enjoyed it differently if I hadn't felt like I got less of Journey than I wanted and DL was wasting my Journey/Jeff time. we got sooooooooo spoiled with that 3 hour show year.

I felt exactly the same way -- though I still listen to many of the same bands I did way back in the day, there are others that I've sort of outgrown. I guess Def Leppard seemed to "bubble-gummy" for me now, and I liked their show, but wasn't really that into it, even though I used to be a huge Lep fan.

Dittos on the Journey time -- they played a much shorter set to make way for Lep, and I gladly would have given up Lep for more Journey. They didn't even play "Who's Cryin Now"! I'm guessing they played for an hour and a half? But with a catalog like Journey's, that's just wayyyyyyy too short.

I feel perhaps I should re-iterate my earlier post in this thread...

April 17, 1983 Irvine Meadows even in the pouring rain Def Leppard blew Billy Squier off the stage and they were no longer the opening band shortly after that!!

Indyjoe

[Rip Rokken]

April 17, 1983 Irvine Meadows even in the pouring rain Def Leppard blew Billy Squier off the stage and they were no longer the opening band shortly after that!!

Indyjoe

I always liked Billy Squier, but never heard the best things about him personally. Sounded like fame went a little too much to his head at the time. Actually, I think it was Bon Jovi that mentioned that -- something like Squier helped them early on, but then had no time for them once he got popular. The article pointed out the irony of what eventually happened to both bands. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

[Indyjoe]

April 17, 1983 Irvine Meadows even in the pouring rain Def Leppard blew Billy Squier off the stage and they were no longer the opening band shortly after that!!

Indyjoe

I always liked Billy Squier, but never heard the best things about him personally. Sounded like fame went a little too much to his head at the time. Actually, I think it was Bon Jovi that mentioned that -- something like Squier helped them early on, but then had no time for them once he got popular. The article pointed out the irony of what eventually happened to both bands. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

I don't really know anything about him, just promoting Def Leppard!!

He was actually annoying because he let so many girls on stage (which would be cool as a fan) but you couldn't see him at all at one point - not cool to the other 15,000+ people there.

[Rip Rokken]

Interesting...when I saw Bryan Adams and the storm, I felt they were equally great for different reasons....

Badams was awesome that night....but he's a different style of music than the storm...and when the storm came out and kicked ass, it was a different section of the ass than badams kicked....

I've seen him 3 times, and I believe every time I was there to see the other band he was playing with (but always liked him). The strangest Bryan Adams show I ever saw was the last one, several years ago. He was opening for the Stones at a stadium concert here, and he was just out of his element. He stuck pretty much to all his rock songs, skipping any ballads, if my memory is correct. And the crowd was just hungry for the Stones... they weren't into him at all, and it was a shame. He's a great player -- that just wasn't the right gig for him.

[MCC620]

The Storm> Bryan Adams!!!!! See if that gets Deano's ass back in here

that was in 1991! Not sure if they blew him off the stage, but they definitely maybe him look over his shoulder.

[johnroxx]

Damn Yankees stomped Bad Company

That's because the so-called "Bad Company" from that era didn't include Paul Rodgers, and was a boring, formulaic, chunk-blowing, MTV-driven sack of shit.

;^)

[johnroxx]

Van Halen blew away Black Sabbath on their first tour. Unanimous conclusion of many who attened that tour. Even Ozzy & Iommi said that.

Ed

That was with Ozzy and the band was farting through the motions at that point. Totally different story. Heaven and Hell/Black Sabbath with Dio this tour are amazing. Absolutely thunderous, heavy live set. No one is "blowing them off the stage".

You speak the truth.

;^)

[Aaron]

One could argue that Goodbye Thrilll was the highlight of the MR.com show in SB ....

[johnroxx]

Saxon destroyed Iron Maiden

You're joking, right?

Saxon = Biff Byford = pathetic.

We're talking Spinal Tap pathetic, only not intended as a joke, lol...

;^)

[johnroxx]

Whitesnake> Scorpions-Feb 2003

that is very hard to believe!

Not at all...the current incarnation of Whitesnake is arguably the best incarnation of this band ever. Doug Aldrich does a better John Sykes than Sykes. Reb Beach handles the Vai stuff without the gay over the top crap Vai did back in the day.....

The only kink in Whitesnake's current lineup armor was the fact that they no longer have Marco Mendoza, who was fucking amazing...but if we're talking about 2003, I believe Marco was still in the band then.

You are correct, sir. I saw the tour (which also included Dokken) here in San Diego...won front row tickets and backstage access from my local FM classic rocker, and all three bands were "on" that night.

It's my understanding that Marco is now with the group that calls itself Thin Lizzy, which, given the fact that Phil Lynott has been dead and buried for over two decades, is a complete farce.

;^)

[Rip Rokken]

It's my understanding that Marco is now with the group that calls itself Thin Lizzy, which, given the fact that Phil Lynott has been dead and buried for over two decades, is a complete farce.

;^)

I'd sure go to see John Sykes, though! Also, did you know Europe dedicated a song, "Hero", to Phil Lynott on their album "Start From The Dark"? That album is the best work I've ever heard from Europe...

[tj]

Foghat really blew BTO apart at last year's Southern Ohio Chilli Cook-Off.

I heard Journey's headlining this year.. they better be ready to rock, I hear Blue Oyster Cult is opening and they're bringing their A game.

I hope that includes the cowbell.

[stevew2]

Damn Yankees stomped Bad Company

That's because the so-called "Bad Company" from that era didn't include Paul Rodgers, and was a boring, formulaic, chunk-blowing, MTV-driven sack of shit.

;^)

How could they call it Bad Company without Paul Rodgers?

[conversationpc]

Damn Yankees stomped Bad Company

That's because the so-called "Bad Company" from that era didn't include Paul Rodgers, and was a boring, formulaic, chunk-blowing, MTV-driven sack of shit.

;^)

How could they call it Bad Company without Paul Rodgers?

The same way Journey went on without Steve Perry.

[stevew2]

I knew that was coming,with Journey they had Schon and Cain,who were co writers, and we known in there own right, Other than Rodgers voice,there wasnt that much that stuck out , with Bad Company, No keys, no fancy guitar solos, just good tunes .

[conversationpc]

I knew that was coming,with Journey they had Schon and Cain,who were co writers, and we known in there own right, Other than Rodgers voice,there wasnt that much that stuck out , with Bad Company, No keys, no fancy guitar solos, just good tunes .

Doesn't matter. Perry was really the only part of Jourrney that was all that noticeable to the general public. Hence all the instances I've heard of people yelling "Play Oh Sherrie" from the crowd at a Journey show.

[Ehwmatt]

I knew that was coming,with Journey they had Schon and Cain,who were co writers, and we known in there own right, Other than Rodgers voice,there wasnt that much that stuck out , with Bad Company, No keys, no fancy guitar solos, just good tunes .

Doesn't matter. Perry was really the only part of Jourrney that was all that noticeable to the general public. Hence all the instances I've heard of people yelling "Play Oh Sherrie" from the crowd at a Journey show.

The great unwashed that is the general public should not be used to gauge things like this... if the general public was the final arbiter of all things "distinctive" or "noticeable" about good music, then we wouldn't have much good music. Not to mention I could play anything from Arrival for a member of the general public and the fact that there's someone new on vocals would never occur to most of them.

[Rip Rokken]

The great unwashed that is the general public should not be used to gauge things like this... if the general public was the final arbiter of all things "distinctive" or "noticeable" about good music, then we wouldn't have much good music. Not to mention I could play anything from Arrival for a member of the general public and the fact that there's someone new on vocals would never occur to most of them.

A big, fat AMEN to that, brotha! I usually refer to these people as "the masses", "the mob", "the commonfolk" or "the unschooled"... haha! But I dig that term -- "the great unwashed"!

They are also the reason spammers and con artists will always be able to make a living, or corrupt politicians can always lie their way into office. We risk losing everything precious to us thanks to these folks.

[aorgeneral]

Thin Lizzy with Gary Moore was better than Blue Oyster Cult at palladium NYC (lizzy had to play a headline set cause BOC's equiptment was lost in transit
Van Halen (1st time live in NYC) ruined Irish prog band Horslips
Rush blows Foghat away 1976 although fogahat were good also.
Be Bop deluxe opens for the Tubes (I went to see Be Bop for the musicianship and the Tubes for the comic relief)

Showing my age folks!

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

true, the show was fun. lots of sing along, feel good stuff, crowd interaction. Lep was just on a different level than Journey. for me anyway.

I am prolly being a little harsh on the Leps--I just went to see Journey, that's all. I might have enjoyed it differently if I hadn't felt like I got less of Journey than I wanted and DL was wasting my Journey/Jeff time. we got sooooooooo spoiled with that 3 hour show year.

I felt exactly the same way -- though I still listen to many of the same bands I did way back in the day, there are others that I've sort of outgrown. I guess Def Leppard seemed to "bubble-gummy" for me now, and I liked their show, but wasn't really that into it, even though I used to be a huge Lep fan.

Dittos on the Journey time -- they played a much shorter set to make way for Lep, and I gladly would have given up Lep for more Journey. They didn't even play "Who's Cryin Now"! I'm guessing they played for an hour and a half? But with a catalog like Journey's, that's just wayyyyyyy too short.

waayyyyy too short.

it was opposite for me--I was never a huge lep fan but I am now. I just love the sing along thing and their songs are so good for that

[Abitaman]

Damn Yankees stomped Bad Company

That's because the so-called "Bad Company" from that era didn't include Paul Rodgers, and was a boring, formulaic, chunk-blowing, MTV-driven sack of shit.

;^)

Actually like the other Bad Company, studio wise, netter than the PAul Rodgers BC-ERIC

[mikemarrs]

no way in hell was the bad company after paul rodgers better studio wise than when he was in the band.the 70's bad company studio wise blew the latter day bad company after paul out of the water.

[Journey69]

Tesla >> Def Leppard It was Tesla's debut album..They were so good!

[stevew2]

no way in hell was the bad company after paul rodgers better studio wise than when he was in the band.the 70's bad company studio wise blew the latter day bad company after paul out of the water.

Paul Rodgers blows away most singers, with the exception of Mr Perry

[johnroxx]

Damn Yankees stomped Bad Company

That's because the so-called "Bad Company" from that era didn't include Paul Rodgers, and was a boring, formulaic, chunk-blowing, MTV-driven sack of shit.

;^)

Actually like the other Bad Company, studio wise, netter than the PAul Rodgers BC-ERIC

Yeah, you and a couple of million others who bought into the soulless, contrived, pop-by-numbers studio crap that band puked onto the MTV airwaves.

Here's a thought: ever wonder why you never, ever hear any of those schlocky "Bad Company" ditties on the radio anymore?

Enough said...

;^)

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

One could argue that Goodbye Thrilll was the highlight of the MR.com show in SB ....

the is only one highlight at a multi artist show when Jeff is there.

Goodbye Thrill can be one of the runnerups.

[Abitaman]

no way in hell was the bad company after paul rodgers better studio wise than when he was in the band.the 70's bad company studio wise blew the latter day bad company after paul out of the water.

Paul Rodgers blows away most singers, with the exception of Mr Perry

Now a days I like Paul, I just didn't care for his voice in the 70's and 80's/ His voice seems to have gotten better with age. Love the Queen cd he did, and Bad Company's latest live cd. But Holy Water and Here Comes Trouble are my two favorite Bad Company cds-ERIC

[Abitaman]

Damn Yankees stomped Bad Company

That's because the so-called "Bad Company" from that era didn't include Paul Rodgers, and was a boring, formulaic, chunk-blowing, MTV-driven sack of shit.

;^)

Actually like the other Bad Company, studio wise, netter than the PAul Rodgers BC-ERIC

Yeah, you and a couple of million others who bought into the soulless, contrived, pop-by-numbers studio crap that band puked onto the MTV airwaves.

Here's a thought: ever wonder why you never, ever hear any of those schlocky "Bad Company" ditties on the radio anymore?

Enough said...

;^)

Actually I have heard How About That, and Walk Through Fire within the past month-ERIC