No Way!!!

[Wheels Of Fyre]

People please! If Fyre says its true it is! Its not worth getting all worked up, the man knows what he is talking about, and Jeremey, all those people that come to your shows to see you sing ,doesn't mean anything because Fyre is the only one that knows the truth.




Just look at this face ,how could it ever be wrong?


Heres another picture of Fyre,taken yesterday as he came to the thoughts about Jeremey




I know ,its a bit unorthodoxed but where do you think he gets his best ideas from

Very creative

What you manage to overlook is my record of picking the other AI winners. I missed with Perla. Oh, well. That's ONE I was wrong on. Gee - I hope I can sleep tonight.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.

Let me lay it out in numbers only. Performances of DSB:

Arnel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nfiZ-yy5Q
22,815 views 86 comments/56 ratings & 4/5 stars
Favorited 56 times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA
15,577 views 56 comments/33 ratings & 4/5 stars
Favorited 36 times

Jeremey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT67NMsZwvM
207 views 2 comments//2 ratings & 3/5 stars
Favorited 2 times

I just watched all three of these and I don't need any YouTube comments to tell me that Jeremey kicked ass on that song. He's got the crowd into it and everybody's having a good time. If you want the slower, I'll-just-stand-up-and-sing-it version then, there's Arnel. It's like he's completely oblivious to the fact that people are watching him. He's up there, stoically singing while the audience is having coffee and desert. Like a lounge singer. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there was a tip jar at the front of the stage somewhere.

Now, this is supposed to be an up-tempo song. A song that people get into, jump around, sing-along, and have a good time. A feel-good party song. I don't give a shit what YouTube comments look like. Jeremey and his band totally captured the essence of what the song was written to be and nailed it. JSS did the same thing, as did Augeri. I have seen Journey several times with both Jeff and Steve and although I personally favored Jeff to Steve, they both "got it". Arnel doesn't seem to have a clue what the song is about. It's not always about who's got the most powerful voice in the room. It's about the passion behind the songs. Not just the passion of the person singing but, more importantly, the passion of the people listening. Arnel could be the greatest vocalist in the world and sound better than Steve Perry but, if all he did was stand up and sing the songs, an American audience would walk out half-way through the show.

Watch all three of these and tell me which show you would rather see. Would you rather be having a great time knowing that your money and time was spent wisely or, would rather have coffee and desert?

Finally! An intelligent response.

To answer your question: I'd rather see Arnel.

As for not giving a shit about the YouTube stats - well, that's your choice. I bet though that if the stats were reversed in favor of Hunsicker that you'd be saying differently.

People here are judging Arnel based off his YouTube performances and saying he sucks. Well, the stats - NOT ME - say differently (although I'm in agreement with the stats). In God We Trust - All Others Please Bring Data. Jeremey doesn't have any data. Plain and simple.

[AR]

Fyre, youtube data means nothing. Arnel is probably the ONLY guy in the Phillipines singing AOR, and their's a nationalist thing going on there, hence the stats.

There are a lot of hits on porn sites, but I don't see Peter North getting leading roles in Disney films.

[LazzMan]

As for not giving a shit about the YouTube stats - well, that's your choice. I bet though that if the stats were reversed in favor of Hunsicker that you'd be saying differently.

If Jeremey just stood up there singing emotionless acting like the warm-up act for some B-rate comedian and Arnel was the one getting the crowd rockin' then 'yes', I would have a different opinion. But he's not, so I don't.

People here are judging Arnel based off his YouTube performances and saying he sucks. Well, the stats - NOT ME - say differently (although I'm in agreement with the stats). In God We Trust - All Others Please Bring Data. Jeremey doesn't have any data. Plain and simple.

What are you talking about? I don't know what this comment means. What stats? Who tabulates "official" stats on YouTube entries?

[Soto All The Way]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.

Let me lay it out in numbers only. Performances of DSB:

Arnel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nfiZ-yy5Q
22,815 views 86 comments/56 ratings & 4/5 stars
Favorited 56 times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA
15,577 views 56 comments/33 ratings & 4/5 stars
Favorited 36 times

Jeremey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT67NMsZwvM
207 views 2 comments//2 ratings & 3/5 stars
Favorited 2 times

I just watched all three of these and I don't need any YouTube comments to tell me that Jeremey kicked ass on that song. He's got the crowd into it and everybody's having a good time. If you want the slower, I'll-just-stand-up-and-sing-it version then, there's Arnel. It's like he's completely oblivious to the fact that people are watching him. He's up there, stoically singing while the audience is having coffee and desert. Like a lounge singer. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there was a tip jar at the front of the stage somewhere.

Now, this is supposed to be an up-tempo song. A song that people get into, jump around, sing-along, and have a good time. A feel-good party song. I don't give a shit what YouTube comments look like. Jeremey and his band totally captured the essence of what the song was written to be and nailed it. JSS did the same thing, as did Augeri. I have seen Journey several times with both Jeff and Steve and although I personally favored Jeff to Steve, they both "got it". Arnel doesn't seem to have a clue what the song is about. It's not always about who's got the most powerful voice in the room. It's about the passion behind the songs. Not just the passion of the person singing but, more importantly, the passion of the people listening. Arnel could be the greatest vocalist in the world and sound better than Steve Perry but, if all he did was stand up and sing the songs, an American audience would walk out half-way through the show.

Watch all three of these and tell me which show you would rather see. Would you rather be having a great time knowing that your money and time was spent wisely or, would rather have coffee and desert?

Finally! An intelligent response.

To answer your question: I'd rather see Arnel.

As for not giving a shit about the YouTube stats - well, that's your choice. I bet though that if the stats were reversed in favor of Hunsicker that you'd be saying differently.

People here are judging Arnel based off his YouTube performances and saying he sucks. Well, the stats - NOT ME - say differently (although I'm in agreement with the stats). In God We Trust - All Others Please Bring Data. Jeremey doesn't have any data. Plain and simple.

Frye, U have always been cool.....So what's you're agenda here? Pretty fucked up!!!

e-

[Panther]

I want to point out something that I don't think I've seen anywhere. There are LOTS of ZOO Band videos on YouTube and there are LOTS of positive comments to go along with them. In stark contrast there are a few Jeremey Hunsicker videos left (I believe he took a few down) and I ask you: who has more cheers: Jeremey or Arnel?

Arnel. People love the guy. Jeremey is loved but only HERE. I don't think a brain is even necessary to figure out this one.

that's pretty rude, Jeremey has quite the following, and their band has no problem booking gigs. You tube isn't the end all/ be all, Prince took down all
his youtubes, not every artist is on youtube or uses it extensively. Arnel is from a small country that has many of these types of copy bands and they get quite famous over there and around Asia so of course they are going to have quite an online type following.

Why insult someone that is on this board that is extremely talented?

Rude? I'm stating the OBVIOUS.

I'll leave the rudeness of attacking cultures and mothers to others.

O.K. then, here's an attack. Go fuck youself!! Do a little research before you start blasting away. Why don't you take the time to read some of the notes that have been posted on this forum, and others, regarding the situation so you understand what the fuck you're talking about before you start insulting people.

I believe I've done my research and made the observation: there is by far MORE positive commentary for Arnel on YouTube than there is for Jeremey.

What don't you get? That's not an insult it's a fact. If I'm wrong then prove it - until then...

Curious.... tube hits and comments make that much of a difference? I'm not well schooled in youtube (hit the links here sometimes and find the cartoons for my mini - that's about as deep as I go), but that young gal from some unmentioned suthern locale has an ungodly amount of hits on her tube vids, as do beaucoup others - according to hit watchers who write up articles on such. The comments... well.... to me, that is hit or miss. Those that wish to make a reply, do so, those who rather listen and move on to other items for listening pleasure - don't. ::::shrug::::
Me, I'd rather not hang my star on who/what got more hits than the next and how many people bothered to drop a line. Then again, I do happen to live in the south, drink beer on the blue moon and watch NASCAR, so my thoughts are neither here nor there.

[Andrew]

Curious.... tube hits and comments make that much of a difference?

In the cold harsh light of day (and reality)...no. Not at all.

[Escape Artist]

Frye,

Go back to your own lame message board and have more inane conversations with your self.

The only one taking your ludicris drivel seriously is you...

Arnel will never front Journey... why is he back in the Philippines posting new youtube videos if he is the new singer??

HMMMMMMMM?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.

Let me lay it out in numbers only. Performances of DSB:

Arnel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nfiZ-yy5Q
22,815 views 86 comments/56 ratings & 4/5 stars
Favorited 56 times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA
15,577 views 56 comments/33 ratings & 4/5 stars
Favorited 36 times

Jeremey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT67NMsZwvM
207 views 2 comments//2 ratings & 3/5 stars
Favorited 2 times

I just watched all three of these and I don't need any YouTube comments to tell me that Jeremey kicked ass on that song. He's got the crowd into it and everybody's having a good time. If you want the slower, I'll-just-stand-up-and-sing-it version then, there's Arnel. It's like he's completely oblivious to the fact that people are watching him. He's up there, stoically singing while the audience is having coffee and desert. Like a lounge singer. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there was a tip jar at the front of the stage somewhere.

Now, this is supposed to be an up-tempo song. A song that people get into, jump around, sing-along, and have a good time. A feel-good party song. I don't give a shit what YouTube comments look like. Jeremey and his band totally captured the essence of what the song was written to be and nailed it. JSS did the same thing, as did Augeri. I have seen Journey several times with both Jeff and Steve and although I personally favored Jeff to Steve, they both "got it". Arnel doesn't seem to have a clue what the song is about. It's not always about who's got the most powerful voice in the room. It's about the passion behind the songs. Not just the passion of the person singing but, more importantly, the passion of the people listening. Arnel could be the greatest vocalist in the world and sound better than Steve Perry but, if all he did was stand up and sing the songs, an American audience would walk out half-way through the show.

Watch all three of these and tell me which show you would rather see. Would you rather be having a great time knowing that your money and time was spent wisely or, would rather have coffee and desert?

Finally! An intelligent response.

To answer your question: I'd rather see Arnel.

As for not giving a shit about the YouTube stats - well, that's your choice. I bet though that if the stats were reversed in favor of Hunsicker that you'd be saying differently.

People here are judging Arnel based off his YouTube performances and saying he sucks. Well, the stats - NOT ME - say differently (although I'm in agreement with the stats). In God We Trust - All Others Please Bring Data. Jeremey doesn't have any data. Plain and simple.

Frye, U have always been cool.....So what's you're agenda here? Pretty fucked up!!!

e-

No agenda. It's simple. I like Arnel. This thread was started not by me but by someone else slamming him. Fine. Slam him. Insult him and all of his fans - that's ok but don't get on my back just because I'm one of only a few voices here that speak in favor of Arnel.

As I mentioned above - the YouTube videos have been posted here ad nauseam. They've been mocked and ridiculed beyond reason despite the fact that LOTS of people have responded in positive ways to them. Now that this has been argued the retort is that the stats don't really matter and there's some nationalistic ballot stuffing going on

Well, isn't that the exact same thing that's going on HERE?

I'm amazed that the people who say they love Jeremey so much have been so lax in support of his YouTube posts! Everyone knew JOURNEY were looking at YouTube and what did they see: lots of love for Arnel and hardly a sneeze for Jeremey.

Friga even mentioned in a recent radio spot that they were thinking of using JOURNEY tribute YouTube clips during concerts. Upon this news did Jeremey supporters rush to his videos and jack them up to show JOURNEY that he's the guy? No.

You can deny and mock the YouTube clips all you want. In then end they're what helped get Arnel an audition! I believe that says SOMETHING - along with all of the commentary and stats that they've generated. YouTube is a meaningful medium - just ask Tay Zonday.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Frye,

Go back to your own lame message board and have more inane conversations with your self.

The only one taking your ludicris drivel seriously is you...

Arnel will never front Journey... why is he back in the Philippines posting new youtube videos if he is the new singer??

HMMMMMMMM?

Not sure why - maybe he doesn't have the job. His having the job or not wasn't the argument here.

Haven't you been paying attention?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

What are you talking about? I don't know what this comment means. What stats? Who tabulates "official" stats on YouTube entries?

You're kidding, right?

Well, when you figure it out it won't matter as Jeremey's DSB video mentioned here has been pulled down.

[Escape Artist]

Frye,

Go back to your own lame message board and have more inane conversations with your self.

The only one taking your ludicris drivel seriously is you...

Arnel will never front Journey... why is he back in the Philippines posting new youtube videos if he is the new singer??

HMMMMMMMM?

Not sure why - maybe he doesn't have the job. His having the job or not wasn't the argument here.

Haven't you been paying attention?

No, my eyes tend to glaze over and my IQ drops whenever I see one of your lame posts.

What is the point of coming on here and slamming Jeremey in favor of Arnel??

Neither one of them is going to front Journey, so why bring up the argument in the first place??

[texafana]

"believe that says SOMETHING - along with all of the commentary and stats that they've generated...."

Just so you know, there's programs you can run that can automatically increase views on YouTube videos and Myspace page views, etc, etc. I don't care if a video has 1 view or a million.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Frye,

Go back to your own lame message board and have more inane conversations with your self.

The only one taking your ludicris drivel seriously is you...

Arnel will never front Journey... why is he back in the Philippines posting new youtube videos if he is the new singer??

HMMMMMMMM?

Not sure why - maybe he doesn't have the job. His having the job or not wasn't the argument here.

Haven't you been paying attention?

No, my eyes tend to glaze over and my IQ drops whenever I see one of your lame posts.

What is the point of coming on here and slamming Jeremey in favor of Arnel??

Neither one of them is going to front Journey, so why bring up the argument in the first place??

Why don't you ask LazzMan that same question? You obviously haven't recognized that THEY started this thread by slamming Arnel.

So you're saying it's OK to slam Arnel?

[Jeremey]

What are you talking about? I don't know what this comment means. What stats? Who tabulates "official" stats on YouTube entries?

You're kidding, right?

Well, when you figure it out it won't matter as Jeremey's DSB video mentioned here has been pulled down.

yeah, my friend who posted it who has nothing to do with journey or frontiers or any other bullshit here took all his clips down because he couldn't be bothered with this tedious bullshit. fucking scumbag.

[Jeremey]

Why don't you ask LazzMan that same question? You obviously haven't recognized that THEY started this thread by slamming Arnel.

So you're saying it's OK to slam Arnel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.

Yeah, that's a real slam.

Now i got something for you, pissant. you come on this board with some idea of getting attention by causing trouble for me, someone who never fucked with you, not even during the height of your bipolar fantasies @ journey recording a latin album, all for the purpose of flicking your little pecker while you sit back and watch the shit you've stirred, right? well, asshole, how does it feel to know that you've been exposed for the attention getting race baiting little sycophant that you are? you're a lonely fucking loser who would rather spend time on the internet playing some imaginary game of tit for tat than spend time with his kids or his wife. you had to create your own message board just to keep from spending time with real fucking people who may look up to you and try to learn from you? how does it feel to have no friends? how does it feel to know that the only attention anyone's gonna pay you is by becoming that lowest, vilest little beast of a troll, posting ridiculous or outrageous things for the sole purpose of getting someone to play with you? for you, my sickly toad of a friend, this imaginary world called the internet begins and ends in your lonely apartment by the flicker of some cobbled together hand me down computer screen...for some of us, this little world actually spills over into real life. some of us have friends that are affected by the filth that runs down your grimey fucking leg. some of us can't understand little pigs like you that have nothing better to do than be the cause celebre for a few brief moments, even if only because of your complete idiocy. retreat back to your little hovel now and meditate on your loneliness, and know that you are done here.

[Rip Rokken]

Now THAT was a slam.... More like a body slam.

[LazzMan]

Why don't you ask LazzMan that same question? You obviously haven't recognized that THEY started this thread by slamming Arnel.

So you're saying it's OK to slam Arnel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.

Yeah, that's a real slam.

Now i got something for you, pissant. you come on this board with some idea of getting attention by causing trouble for me, someone who never fucked with you, not even during the height of your bipolar fantasies @ journey recording a latin album, all for the purpose of flicking your little pecker while you sit back and watch the shit you've stirred, right? well, asshole, how does it feel to know that you've been exposed for the attention getting race baiting little sycophant that you are? you're a lonely fucking loser who would rather spend time on the internet playing some imaginary game of tit for tat than spend time with his kids or his wife. you had to create your own message board just to keep from spending time with real fucking people who may look up to you and try to learn from you? how does it feel to have no friends? how does it feel to know that the only attention anyone's gonna pay you is by becoming that lowest, vilest little beast of a troll, posting ridiculous or outrageous things for the sole purpose of getting someone to play with you? for you, my sickly toad of a friend, this imaginary world called the internet begins and ends in your lonely apartment by the flicker of some cobbled together hand me down computer screen...for some of us, this little world actually spills over into real life. some of us have friends that are affected by the filth that runs down your grimey fucking leg. some of us can't understand little pigs like you that have nothing better to do than be the cause celebre for a few brief moments, even if only because of your complete idiocy. retreat back to your little hovel now and meditate on your loneliness, and know that you are done here.

Hey J, I noticed that you threw my quote in with your tirade. I hope you don't think that I'm coming down on you. I simply started this thread as a means to express my opinion around Arnel. He does have a great voice but, per my previous posts on this thread, he has no idea what the songs are about. He just stands up there and sings them...with no emotion whatsoever. I also pointed out the nuances of certain songs and how, based on what I've seen from you, you get that. Jeff and Steve "got it" too when they were in the band. Arnel seems to have no clue. I'm not even really slamming Arnel. I'm just stating my opinion based on the obvious facts around his performances. Except for one thing, I guess. His band, not yours, really does suck.

When threads get this long many times we go through various streams of consciousness and get distracted from the point of the post. I don't know who this Fyre fellow is but, he certainly seems to like stirring the pot. I can't honestly think that he feels the way he's leading us to believe. He keeps circling the airport with his posts as if to intentionally create issues where they don't exist. Everybody has the right and responsibility to own their own feelings and opinions but, I'm not sure what this guy's agenda is.

Anyway, I just wanted to get that out there and defend myself a little bit. Hope you didn't take things the wrong way from me. I'm not on a witch hunt or trying to make trouble. I'm just passing the time while I'm waiting for my wife to give birth to our fourth child.

[nolippin]

What a jackass! People who happen to think that Journey made the right decision in passing your ass over have as much right to express that as the handful of your groupies who are always on here sucking up to you.

First, you start a blog to spout your sour grapes and now post with this filth because everyone here doesn't think Journey should hire a Perry impersonator. You have absolutely no class or professionalism.

If you can't take criticism, stay off the damn boards.

Why don't you ask LazzMan that same question? You obviously haven't recognized that THEY started this thread by slamming Arnel.

So you're saying it's OK to slam Arnel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PGQPjIDEA

Not trying to dig up any bones here but, I watched this again and I just can't see it. Nothing against him personally but, I can't believe that "Team Journey" is comfortable with this guy. Good voice, noticeable accent, and NO stage presence at all. His band doesn't help him much though. Man, they fucking suck.

Yeah, that's a real slam.

Now i got something for you, pissant. you come on this board with some idea of getting attention by causing trouble for me, someone who never fucked with you, not even during the height of your bipolar fantasies @ journey recording a latin album, all for the purpose of flicking your little pecker while you sit back and watch the shit you've stirred, right? well, asshole, how does it feel to know that you've been exposed for the attention getting race baiting little sycophant that you are? you're a lonely fucking loser who would rather spend time on the internet playing some imaginary game of tit for tat than spend time with his kids or his wife. you had to create your own message board just to keep from spending time with real fucking people who may look up to you and try to learn from you? how does it feel to have no friends? how does it feel to know that the only attention anyone's gonna pay you is by becoming that lowest, vilest little beast of a troll, posting ridiculous or outrageous things for the sole purpose of getting someone to play with you? for you, my sickly toad of a friend, this imaginary world called the internet begins and ends in your lonely apartment by the flicker of some cobbled together hand me down computer screen...for some of us, this little world actually spills over into real life. some of us have friends that are affected by the filth that runs down your grimey fucking leg. some of us can't understand little pigs like you that have nothing better to do than be the cause celebre for a few brief moments, even if only because of your complete idiocy. retreat back to your little hovel now and meditate on your loneliness, and know that you are done here.

[conversationpc]

What are you talking about? I don't know what this comment means. What stats? Who tabulates "official" stats on YouTube entries?

You're kidding, right?

Well, when you figure it out it won't matter as Jeremey's DSB video mentioned here has been pulled down.

Those stats mean little or nothing. It's like those polls on CNN that all the conspiracy freaks get each other to answer and run the numbers up in their own favor. They mean NOTHING AT ALL.

[mistiejourney]

Curious.... tube hits and comments make that much of a difference?

In the cold harsh light of day (and reality)...no. Not at all.

RE: You Tube comments

I watch a lot of You Tube clips but I never leave a message, even to the ones that blow me away. I really don't see You Tube as a "forum" type place and don't have time to read the comments anyway. It never occurred to me that leaving a comment was important.

[heardonthestreet]

The hits on any given video are very important and a benchmark. There are articles on the net concerning this. Lame excuses here.

[conversationpc]

The hits on any given video are very important and a benchmark. There are articles on the net concerning this. Lame excuses here.

As I said earlier, they mean nothing. Take just about any poll that's put up on the news sites like CNN, Fox, etc. Once some wacko group knows about, those morons flood those polls to skew it to their side. It's too easy to do. Nothing lame about that. It's a well-known fact.

[heardonthestreet]

Rose and Donovan are examples of young actors on the make for whom YouTube is simply another means to the age-old end of being discovered -- the virtual equivalent of Schwab's drugstore. But the quintessential YouTube star is Noah, a young man who took a photographic self-portrait every day over six years, and whose haunting, elegiac video has become one of the site's early classics, and will most likely exceed 5 million hits by this weekend.




This is part of a Washington Post article.

Why keep count if it's not revelant?

[Jeremey]

Hey J, I noticed that you threw my quote in with your tirade. I hope you don't think that I'm coming down on you. I simply started this thread as a means to express my opinion around Arnel. He does have a great voice but, per my previous posts on this thread, he has no idea what the songs are about. He just stands up there and sings them...with no emotion whatsoever. I also pointed out the nuances of certain songs and how, based on what I've seen from you, you get that. Jeff and Steve "got it" too when they were in the band. Arnel seems to have no clue. I'm not even really slamming Arnel. I'm just stating my opinion based on the obvious facts around his performances. Except for one thing, I guess. His band, not yours, really does suck.

When threads get this long many times we go through various streams of consciousness and get distracted from the point of the post. I don't know who this Fyre fellow is but, he certainly seems to like stirring the pot. I can't honestly think that he feels the way he's leading us to believe. He keeps circling the airport with his posts as if to intentionally create issues where they don't exist. Everybody has the right and responsibility to own their own feelings and opinions but, I'm not sure what this guy's agenda is.

Anyway, I just wanted to get that out there and defend myself a little bit. Hope you didn't take things the wrong way from me. I'm not on a witch hunt or trying to make trouble. I'm just passing the time while I'm waiting for my wife to give birth to our fourth child.

Not at all Lazzman, I just threw your original post in there because SmallFrye accused you of bashing Arnel, and I put your quote in my post to show that didn't appear to be the case at all. Sorry for the confusion.

[conversationpc]

Why keep count if it's not revelant?

That's what I'm wondering.

[Jeremey]

What a jackass! People who happen to think that Journey made the right decision in passing your ass over have as much right to express that as the handful of your groupies who are always on here sucking up to you.

First, you start a blog to spout your sour grapes and now post with this filth because everyone here doesn't think Journey should hire a Perry impersonator. You have absolutely no class or professionalism.

If you can't take criticism, stay off the damn boards.

Sorry, nolippin, i have every right to defend myself on this board. i was a member here before i started a journey tribute band, and might I ask you how many responses like the above have I given on this board over the course of this whole melodrama? 3, maybe 4? I respect anyone's right to say what they want about me, but be prepared knowing full well that I frequent this board that I will come on and defend myself if necessary. I'm amazed that some people think they have a right to spout off about other people and then think the target of their criticsims should have some kind of gag order against responding...You have to go pretty far to get my irish up the way fry did, and in his case, he cause a nice headache for a friend of mine that just posted some personal video of his from one of our shows, all for no other reason than to stir up shit.

if you don't like my blog, don't fuckin' read it. you think it's sour grapes, fine, that's your opinion. the fact is that a lot of fucking people have questions about what happened with my audition for the band, especially when it was such a major fucking ordeal on this message board when it happened. unlike most things journey, i didn't feel like it was necessary to keep the circumstances of my audition a fucking mystery or secret, and the more conjecture and opinion about it, the more twisted stories can become, so i just post information straight from where it happened.

and i don't give a fuckin' rip about anyone who thinks journey shouldn't have hired a perry impersonator. when i was in the running, people posted pics of me in a tuxedo jacket, videos of my one man show, and more just to misrepresent who i am and what i do. jesus, many people thought i was a 400 lb swede due to some of the misrepresentation on these message boards. again, i have every right to respond to my critics, and anyone who thinks there should be a double standard can go pound sand.

[Soto All The Way]

What a jackass! People who happen to think that Journey made the right decision in passing your ass over have as much right to express that as the handful of your groupies who are always on here sucking up to you.

First, you start a blog to spout your sour grapes and now post with this filth because everyone here doesn't think Journey should hire a Perry impersonator. You have absolutely no class or professionalism.

If you can't take criticism, stay off the damn boards.

Sorry, nolippin, i have every right to defend myself on this board. i was a member here before i started a journey tribute band, and might I ask you how many responses like the above have I given on this board over the course of this whole melodrama? 3, maybe 4? I respect anyone's right to say what they want about me, but be prepared knowing full well that I frequent this board that I will come on and defend myself if necessary. I'm amazed that some people think they have a right to spout off about other people and then think the target of their criticsims should have some kind of gag order against responding...You have to go pretty far to get my irish up the way fry did, and in his case, he cause a nice headache for a friend of mine that just posted some personal video of his from one of our shows, all for no other reason than to stir up shit.

if you don't like my blog, don't fuckin' read it. you think it's sour grapes, fine, that's your opinion. the fact is that a lot of fucking people have questions about what happened with my audition for the band, especially when it was such a major fucking ordeal on this message board when it happened. unlike most things journey, i didn't feel like it was necessary to keep the circumstances of my audition a fucking mystery or secret, and the more conjecture and opinion about it, the more twisted stories can become, so i just post information straight from where it happened.

and i don't give a fuckin' rip about anyone who thinks journey shouldn't have hired a perry impersonator. when i was in the running, people posted pics of me in a tuxedo jacket, videos of my one man show, and more just to misrepresent who i am and what i do. jesus, many people thought i was a 400 lb swede due to some of the misrepresentation on these message boards. again, i have every right to respond to my critics, and anyone who thinks there should be a double standard can go pound sand.

Jer,

These fucking morons who must take their haldol and xanax in the afternoon rather than the am, aren't worth it....Don't defend yourself. Jer, Your work defends it more than enough. Thiese idiots just sit at home getting more fat popping psych pills writing on message boards.....

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[Jeremey]

The hits on any given video are very important and a benchmark. There are articles on the net concerning this. Lame excuses here.

there's the internet and then there's the real world. when blogs and message boards link and interconnect like the big fat web the internet is, that's called working the room. anyone think that maybe arnel's audition is big news in the asian community? not to make a cultural generalisation here, but anyone consider how connected to the web the asian community might be? i have NEVER linked anything to any of my YouTube videos aside from this site and the Frontiers site. Let the Washington Post do an article on Frontiers with links to our YouTube clips and find out how many hits we get. the skewed reality that fry tried to perpetrate conveniently neglected that Frontiers has played to nearly 80,000 people in the past year in over 10 states, from indiana to florida, and we frequently sell out 600 + seat venues, very nearly selling out the 1400 seat house of blues in cleveland ohio twice in the past 8 months. the people that go to our shows could give a shit about getting on YouTube and making comments about old video clips. in fact, i disabled our comments section and stopped adding clips for the sole reason that a nice contingent of "anti-perry impersonators" made concerted efforts to post generalized mean comments about our videos, and even had the graciousness to send me comments personally about what a fat, conceited prick i was for not allowing them to continue posting hateful comments....give me constructive criticism any day, but spite & hate has no place on videos I post to PROMOTE the band...

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in fact, i disabled our comments section and stopped adding clips for the sole reason that a nice contingent of "anti-perry impersonators" made concerted efforts to post generalized mean comments about our videos, and even had the graciousness to send me comments personally about what a fat, conceited prick i was for not allowing them to continue posting hateful comments....give me constructive criticism any day, but spite & hate has no place on videos I post to PROMOTE the band...

Good decision.