Clear Channel refusing to play new music from old artists?

[JohnH]

This is also the reason I don't listen to music radio. The worst was a couple of years ago when 93.1 Arrow introduced a Dire Straits song by saying "hey you've gotta check out Mark Knopfler's new album" then played Sultan's of Swing for the one millionth time. I've bought tons of great albums by older artists, including Bruce's new one and you won't hear them. It's BS!

John

[Marc S]

Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR!

WTF? Interested to hear the relevance of secular/non-secular aspect to this......?

Who asked you? Don't you have a thread to trash the troops and talk about the positives of the terrorists somewhere?

Its an open forum is it not? You mean you aren't going to justify your statement?

You do yourself no favours with your accusations (like I give a fuck) - but please, be my guest - produce one single line where I openly 'trash troops' or promote the 'positives of terrorists'. It might suit you to think that.

You've already exposed yourself in another thread. Everyone knows you, including a veteran who took offense to you.

Go ahead - show me the evidence - exposed myself to what? Rather than just your take on it. How quaintly McCarthyite.

[Andrew]

I don't listen to the radio anymore, either. What's the point?

Amen. Utter rubbish...

[FishinMagician]

Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR!

WTF? Interested to hear the relevance of secular/non-secular aspect to this......?

Who asked you? Don't you have a thread to trash the troops and talk about the positives of the terrorists somewhere?

Its an open forum is it not? You mean you aren't going to justify your statement?

You do yourself no favours with your accusations (like I give a fuck) - but please, be my guest - produce one single line where I openly 'trash troops' or promote the 'positives of terrorists'. It might suit you to think that.

You've already exposed yourself in another thread. Everyone knows you, including a veteran who took offense to you.

LOL INTERNET!!!

[RedWingFan]

Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR!

WTF? Interested to hear the relevance of secular/non-secular aspect to this......?

Who asked you? Don't you have a thread to trash the troops and talk about the positives of the terrorists somewhere?

Its an open forum is it not? You mean you aren't going to justify your statement?

You do yourself no favours with your accusations (like I give a fuck) - but please, be my guest - produce one single line where I openly 'trash troops' or promote the 'positives of terrorists'. It might suit you to think that.

You've already exposed yourself in another thread. Everyone knows you, including a veteran who took offense to you.

Go ahead - show me the evidence - exposed myself to what? Rather than just your take on it. How quaintly McCarthyite.

Trying to paint our men and women as violent, bloodthirsty, killers, who do it only for kicks
You find all this time to attack coalition troops and don't utter one negative word about the enemy. Exposed! I'd rather not ruin another perfectly good thread with dealing with you. Thanks anyway!
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... c&start=30

[Marc S]

Trying to paint our men and women as violent, bloodthirsty, killers, who do it only for kicks
You find all this time to attack coalition troops and don't utter one negative word about the enemy. Exposed! I'd rather not ruin another perfectly good thread with dealing with you. Thanks anyway!
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... c&start=30

You are completely and utterly wrong. Again.

I have just skimmed through both mine and for that matter, sherrys comments on that whole thread.

NOT FUCKING ONCE is there anything that is 'Trying to paint our men and women as violent, bloodthirsty, killers, who do it only for kicks'

Nor is there one single attack on Coalition (yes our UK troops are included in that) forces - only the political leadership i.e. Bush.

You have fabricated it for your own pathetic ends. You are only 'exposing' your own disinformation.

I will reiterate from yesterday - show me, no show everyone, the line that illustrates what you say - after all, you're the self-appointed expert.

There is a huge difference between an opposing opinion and just plain shit-stirring, and I know exactly which one you are trying to do.

Go on...lets see it.

[RedWingFan]

Trying to paint our men and women as violent, bloodthirsty, killers, who do it only for kicks
You find all this time to attack coalition troops and don't utter one negative word about the enemy. Exposed! I'd rather not ruin another perfectly good thread with dealing with you. Thanks anyway!
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... c&start=30

You are completely and utterly wrong. Again.

I have just skimmed through both mine and for that matter, sherrys comments on that whole thread.

NOT FUCKING ONCE is there anything that is 'Trying to paint our men and women as violent, bloodthirsty, killers, who do it only for kicks'

Nor is there one single attack on Coalition (yes our UK troops are included in that) forces - only the political leadership i.e. Bush.

You have fabricated it for your own pathetic ends. You are only 'exposing' your own disinformation.

I will reiterate from yesterday - show me, no show everyone, the line that illustrates what you say - after all, you're the self-appointed expert.

There is a huge difference between an opposing opinion and just plain shit-stirring, and I know exactly which one you are trying to do.

Go on...lets see it.

RaiderFan
You know, as 9/11 happened I did consider enlisting. I considered the home (in my gated community) that I would have to sell, because I lived alone. I had just met my eventual wife. I had to weigh the pro's of serving with the con's of losing everything I had established and abandoning the prospect of my wife. I decided to stay. That is one of the reasons I get so enraged at people who besmirch our soldiers, our mission and their commander. They are a rare breed. They do what 99% of us would not. I owe my freedom to them. That's why I waste my time arguing with you to defend them, the mission and their commander!

Whatever. I'm sure you had your reasons, but (to quote you) bottom line you didn't do it. I don't pretend to make out I wrestled with my concsience...

I'm not pretending either you ass! Everyone knows you are an pacifist! It's your ilk that used diplomacy to give in to Hitler til he showed up in your backyard.

Soldiers are indeed a different breed but not particularly in the uber-patriot way you go on about

Amazing.

I know guys who absolutely live for bonafide action, they see it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to put all that training into the ultimate practical application i.e hand to hand fighting.

They sound like animals....Killing machines.

They don't give two hoots for the political landscape and reasons for engagement. They are getting a chance to put their talents into practice.

Hmmmm....

No-one is 'besmirching' your soldiers

No????

They however, are soldiers, not further up the command chain. As I always think, if we did it the old way and Bush or Blair had to lead them into battle aboard the leading Abrahms (spelling?) there would never be a fucking war.

We can't trust terrorists to not hide behind women and children or not hide among civilians and we're supposed to send our leaders to lead the troops like in the 1700's?
Uh... sorry to inform you but it kinda looks like the surge is working.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL248131.htm

[RedWingFan]

Trying to paint our men and women as violent, bloodthirsty, killers, who do it only for kicks
You find all this time to attack coalition troops and don't utter one negative word about the enemy. Exposed! I'd rather not ruin another perfectly good thread with dealing with you. Thanks anyway!
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... c&start=30

You are completely and utterly wrong. Again.

I have just skimmed through both mine and for that matter, sherrys comments on that whole thread.

NOT FUCKING ONCE is there anything that is 'Trying to paint our men and women as violent, bloodthirsty, killers, who do it only for kicks'

Nor is there one single attack on Coalition (yes our UK troops are included in that) forces - only the political leadership i.e. Bush.

You have fabricated it for your own pathetic ends. You are only 'exposing' your own disinformation.

I will reiterate from yesterday - show me, no show everyone, the line that illustrates what you say - after all, you're the self-appointed expert.

There is a huge difference between an opposing opinion and just plain shit-stirring, and I know exactly which one you are trying to do.

Go on...lets see it.

RaiderFan
You know, as 9/11 happened I did consider enlisting. I considered the home (in my gated community) that I would have to sell, because I lived alone. I had just met my eventual wife. I had to weigh the pro's of serving with the con's of losing everything I had established and abandoning the prospect of my wife. I decided to stay. That is one of the reasons I get so enraged at people who besmirch our soldiers, our mission and their commander. They are a rare breed. They do what 99% of us would not. I owe my freedom to them. That's why I waste my time arguing with you to defend them, the mission and their commander!

Whatever. I'm sure you had your reasons, but (to quote you) bottom line you didn't do it. I don't pretend to make out I wrestled with my concsience...

I'm not pretending either you ass! Everyone knows you are an pacifist! It's your ilk that used diplomacy to give in to Hitler til he showed up in your backyard.

Soldiers are indeed a different breed but not particularly in the uber-patriot way you go on about

Amazing.

I know guys who absolutely live for bonafide action, they see it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to put all that training into the ultimate practical application i.e hand to hand fighting.

They sound like animals....Killing machines.

They don't give two hoots for the political landscape and reasons for engagement. They are getting a chance to put their talents into practice.

Hmmmm....

No-one is 'besmirching' your soldiers

No????

They however, are soldiers, not further up the command chain. As I always think, if we did it the old way and Bush or Blair had to lead them into battle aboard the leading Abrahms (spelling?) there would never be a fucking war.

We can't trust terrorists to not hide behind women and children or not hide among civilians and we're supposed to send our leaders to lead the troops like in the 1700's?
Uh... sorry to inform you but it kinda looks like the surge is working.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL248131.htm

But I personally loved RVR's response to you.

Soldiers are indeed a different breed but not particularly in the uber-patriot way you go on about.

VERY few military people WANT to go to war you dickhead. You know NOTHING about the military. 100% of the Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Sailors I know have served because they felt "uber-patriotic" as you put it. The feel our country and our way of life is worth defending. And almost NEVER is their hand to hand combat in this day and age, with that you show your utter lack of knowledge of the military.

You know you are a real piece of shit. It's appolgists like you who CAUSE the cancer of terrorism, because you and your kind make our country look weak.

Terrorist don't want to be diplomatic as you seem to think, and neither do the countries that support them (Iraq, Syria etc etc)...they want us dead...our way of life dead...or us converted to their religion and their way of life.

I served my country because of the abiding love I have for it and it's people. I believe in your right to free speech, I also believe that you and your kind cross the line into TREASON, sediton and are giving aid and comfort to the enemy with the irresponsible rhetoric you use, and that since this is a time of war you should be placed against a wall and shot.

I hate quoting movies...but I have to in this case, because the writer of a Few Good Men was right on the money (This is abridged)...

"Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns...You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post."

So now just shut the fuck up.
Stu
~Former SSGT. USMC. (1987-1997)

[Marc S]

Soldiers are indeed a different breed but not particularly in the uber-patriot way you go on about

I know guys who absolutely live for bonafide action, they see it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to put all that training into the ultimate practical application i.e hand to hand fighting.

You know absolutely damn well I was referring to soldiers that I know who served in the Falklands and Northern Ireland - documented sentiments from their experiences, not mine.
Not any reference ANYWHERE to Coalition troops. Again - you are WRONG

They don't give two hoots for the political landscape and reasons for engagement. They are getting a chance to put their talents into practice.

Again, their personal experiences on active duty on those fronts -
Not any reference ANYWHERE to Coalition troops.
Again - you are WRONG

They however, are soldiers, not further up the command chain. As I always think, if we did it the old way and Bush or Blair had to lead them into battle aboard the leading Abrahms (spelling?) there would never be a fucking war.

Completely true - if political leaders had to lead soldiers into battle they would not do it.
Not any reference ANYWHERE to Coalition troops.
Again - you are WRONG

You're a bullshitter RF, plain and simple.

RVR never read the threads properly either.

[RedWingFan]

Soldiers are indeed a different breed but not particularly in the uber-patriot way you go on about

This was your retort to my feelings about our Coalition troops. Nowhere did you specify Ireland or Falklands or whatever was running through your demented mind.

I know guys who absolutely live for bonafide action, they see it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to put all that training into the ultimate practical application i.e hand to hand fighting.

You know absolutely damn well I was referring to soldiers that I know who served in the Falklands and Northern Ireland - documented sentiments from their experiences, not mine.
Not any reference ANYWHERE to Coalition troops. Again - you are WRONG

If "soldiers that I know" and coalition troops are so different, why use "soldiers that I know" as an example? Why would you compare apples and oranges? I am right!

They don't give two hoots for the political landscape and reasons for engagement. They are getting a chance to put their talents into practice.

Again, their personal experiences on active duty on those fronts -
Not any reference ANYWHERE to Coalition troops.
Again - you are WRONG

Again if "soldiers that I know" and coalition troops are so different, why use "soldiers that I know" as an example? I am still right!
Why don't you just come out of the closet already? Stop claiming RVR and myself need to take reading comprehension and come out already. You're already exposed.

[weatherman90]

We have two classic rock stations in Bismarck, but sadly they just play the same 300 songs over and over again.

Only the hits, very few deeper cuts.

They do a promo called "Win a tee before 3 by selecting an artist that you want to hear three songs from".

I e-mailed the station and said I want to hear 3 from Toto...they said "We Don't Have 3 from Toto. Try another artist." I wasn't that surprised, though, since the only Toto song I ever heard on the station was Hold the Line. They refuse to play anything else.

[Greg]

The only time I listen to terrestrial radio is when I'm listening to the Johnboy and Billy Big show in the morning on a local classic rock station. That is mostly talk though (comedy.) Any other time, if I listen to radio, it's XM.

[Marc S]

If "soldiers that I know" and coalition troops are so different, why use "soldiers that I know" as an example? Why would you compare apples and oranges? I am right!

Again if "soldiers that I know" and coalition troops are so different, why use "soldiers that I know" as an example? I am still right!
Why don't you just come out of the closet already? Stop claiming RVR and myself need to take reading comprehension and come out already. You're already exposed.

You are a twat RF. Seeing a distinction between Falklands & Northern Ireland and British and American Coalition troops that patently doesn't exist. They are all soldiers, some of whom I can draw a personal experience from (Falklands & NI) and some I do not know - your 'argument' makes no sense. The oranges and apples analogy is completely crap.

My reference to Falklands & Northern Ireland vets is simple - these are people I have spoken with on a personal basis - not some chinese whisper. I base my comments on nothing else.

I'd love to know what, in your little world I am 'exposed' to....? Come on fool, you still haven't put a cohesive thread together. Please understand I don't give a flying fuck what you RF, personally think and what shitty agenda you have. We will never agree on most things, we will always argue ad finitum, so don't try to put words in my mouth.

As I mentioned earlier - you sound like Senator McCarthy and the 'just cos' brigade.

[styxfanNH]

IF they are refusing to play their music, then the alternative would be to not play in their venues. Sadly, they own many major market venues....

Thought this might be worthy of discussion:


Clear Channel More Interested In Playing Old Music Than Music By Old People

Fox 411 columnist and Jann Wenner enemy Roger Friedman is alleging that the radio monopolists at Clear Channel have flat-out told the programmers at their rock stations that they can't play tracks from Bruce Springsteen's Magic, despite the album being No. 1 on the charts last week. Songs from the Boss' vault, like "Born To Run" and "Born In The USA," are OK, and that's causing Friedman to cry ageism:

Clear Channel seems to have sent a clear message to other radio outlets that at age 58, Springsteen simply is too old to be played on rock stations. This completely absurd notion is one of many ways Clear Channel has done more to destroy the music business than downloading over the last 10 years. It's certainly what's helped create satellite radio, where Springsteen is a staple and even has his own channel on Sirius.

It's not just Springsteen. There is no sign at major radio stations of new albums by John Fogerty or Annie Lennox, either. The same stations that should be playing Santana's new singles with Chad Kroeger or Tina Turner are avoiding them, too.

Like Springsteen, these "older" artists have been relegated to something called Triple A format stations -- i.e. either college radio or small artsy stations such as WFUV in the Bronx, N.Y., which are immune from the Clear Channel virus of pre-programming and where the number of plays per song is a fraction of what it is on commercial radio.

http://idolator.com/tunes/ageism%3F/cle ... 316765.php

[mikemarrs]

hearing the same four or five songs from zeppelin,aerosmith,U2,eagles,etc. gets real old.if i hear walk this way one more time i'll puke.they ruin good music by playing it to death.they never play any deep cuts to give the other stuff a breather.how many times can you hear one song.just like deep purple with smoke on the water.its almost a joke its played so much.just like now stairway to heaven is like a cliche and also yelling freebird out at concerts.