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Postby Blondie » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:48 pm

I wanted to send this link to everyone for their information.
It concerns the movie "The Golden Compass" that is being
marketed to kids. It has anti-religious themes and opens just before Christmas...

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp
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Postby SteveForever » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:45 pm

What has happened to Nicole Kidman?
she's kind of evil I think, she made that
weird movie with Tom that basically wrecked her marriage
and then the one with Anthony Hopkins that was so freaky.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:12 am

I think church can do more damage than a movie can.
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Re: OT: New Movie Concern for Parents - The Golden Compass

Postby Indyjoe » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:17 am

Blondie wrote:I wanted to send this link to everyone for their information.
It concerns the movie "The Golden Compass" that is being
marketed to kids. It has anti-religious themes and opens just before Christmas...

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp


I appreciate the info. I will check it out. Thanks!

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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:27 am

It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:21 am

BobbyinTN wrote:I think church can do more damage than a movie can.


Depends on what kind of church you're talking about.

NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.


Like anything, it depends on the child. Some kids can handle and recognize it for what it is and others can't.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:22 am

This reminds me of Jerry Falwell trying to have the Teletubbies banned because he thought Tinky Winky was blatantly gay and therefore a bad influence. :roll:

A lot of churches also said children shouldn't be allowed to read or see Harry Potter because it taught witchcraft. Image

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Postby Greg » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:25 am

The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that? :roll:
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:25 am

ohsherrie wrote:This reminds me of Jerry Falwell trying to have the Teletubbies banned because he thought Tinky Winky was blatantly gay and therefore a bad influence. :roll:

A lot of churches also said children shouldn't be allowed to read or see Harry Potter because it taught witchcraft. Image

All forms of extremism are threatening to freedom.


I think some parents just like to blame the media too much for their kids' shortcomings and their lack of parenting skills.
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:26 am

Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that? :roll:


Then don't let your kids read it. And explain to them that the author will be poked in the ass with a pitchfork for eternity. :lol:
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Postby Greg » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:33 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that? :roll:


Then don't let your kids read it. And explain to them that the author will be poked in the ass with a pitchfork for eternity. :lol:


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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:52 am

I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.
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Postby Rosebud » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:59 am

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.


Obviously, that's what we have = Freedom of Speech.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:08 am

Tyler wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.


Obviously, that's what we have = Freedom of Speech.



Yes, and also Freedom of Religion and separation of church and state.
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Postby Greg » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:18 am

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.


I agree. Which is why I would never go see this movie. This IS the agenda of this author.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:21 am

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.


Bingo.

Here's snopes.com's view on the subject:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp
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Postby styxman » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:30 am

Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that? :roll:


That's a pretty tall order, anyone seen him recently, like in Macdonalds or Burger King, maybe a shopping Mall or at a ball game :?

I'll only watch the film as Kidman has a nice little see through dress on, so for me it'll make me horny not want to go kill God :wink:
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Postby Greg » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:36 am

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Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that? :roll:


That's a pretty tall order, anyone seen him recently, like in Macdonalds or Burger King, maybe a shopping Mall or at a ball game :?

I'll only watch the film as Kidman has a nice little see through dress on, so for me it'll make me horny not want to go kill God :wink:


:lol: I hear ya! Every chance I get to see Nicole Kidman, I just want to say to Tom Cruise "STUPID!!!"

I think what the author means by his agenda of "killing God" is erasing any thought of God in the minds of kids who reads his books.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:56 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.


Bingo.

Here's snopes.com's view on the subject:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp


I read that but without reading the books themselves it's hard to have an opinion on the material itself. Some of them say he's anti-God and others say he's anti-religion. There's a difference.

Whatever his beliefs, if his intent is the infiltration of them into society by influencing children, then I think it's wrong.

But then, that's also how I feel about teaching religion in public schools. Image
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:14 am

The following takes place 15 years from now:

Sara: Hi, Karen! I haven't seen you in years!!! How is little Chauncey?

Karen: Not so good, Sara. I let him watch "The Golden Compass" when he was 5, and boy, was THAT a bad decision.

Sara: Why? What happened to him?

Karen: He devoted his life to trying to find God.

Sara: That sounds like a good thing to me!

Karen: No, he's trying to find Him to kill Him! I knew I should have stuck a Barney DVD in the player that day.

Sara: So is he still trying to kill God?

Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!
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Postby Jeremey » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:18 am

NealIsGod wrote:The following takes place 15 years from now:

Sara: Hi, Karen! I haven't seen you in years!!! How is little Chauncey?

Karen: Not so good, Sara. I let him watch "The Golden Compass" when he was 5, and boy, was THAT a bad decision.

Sara: Why? What happened to him?

Karen: He devoted his life to trying to find God.

Sara: That sounds like a good thing to me!

Karen: No, he's trying to find Him to kill Him! I knew I should have stuck a Barney DVD in the player that day.

Sara: So is he still trying to kill God?

Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!


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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:38 am

NealIsGod wrote:Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!


On the contrary, it would be too easy to find him in the audience of a Styx concert, considering how small the audience is these days. :lol:
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:41 am

NealIsGod wrote:The following takes place 15 years from now:

Sara: Hi, Karen! I haven't seen you in years!!! How is little Chauncey?

Karen: Not so good, Sara. I let him watch "The Golden Compass" when he was 5, and boy, was THAT a bad decision.

Sara: Why? What happened to him?

Karen: He devoted his life to trying to find God.

Sara: That sounds like a good thing to me!

Karen: No, he's trying to find Him to kill Him! I knew I should have stuck a Barney DVD in the player that day.

Sara: So is he still trying to kill God?

Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!


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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:48 am

conversationpc wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!


On the contrary, it would be too easy to find him in the audience of a Styx concert, considering how small the audience is these days. :lol:


Guess it went over your head. The audience is so small that it is non-existent, so nobody would be there to look for him.

Sheesh! :lol:

It's funnier if you plug in "Journey featuring Arnel" anyway.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:49 am

NealIsGod wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!


On the contrary, it would be too easy to find him in the audience of a Styx concert, considering how small the audience is these days. :lol:


Guess it went over your head. The audience is so small that it is non-existent, so nobody would be there to look for him.

Sheesh! :lol:


No, I got it. Just turning it around. Yours was funny, though, so just ignore mine. :oops:
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Postby Indyjoe » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:50 am

NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.


I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.
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Postby Jeremey » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:03 am

Indyjoe wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.


I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.


I started reading Stephen King books at the age of 8 and look where it got me... :twisted:
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:04 am

Jeremey wrote:
Indyjoe wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.


I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.


I started reading Stephen King books at the age of 8 and look where it got me... :twisted:


So did those keep you awake at night, too, or was that just from listening to Priest? :lol:
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:05 am

Jeremey wrote:
Indyjoe wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.


I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.


I started reading Stephen King books at the age of 8 and look where it got me... :twisted:


Yeah, if you would have stuck with "Everybody Poops" you would be much better adjusted.
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Postby Jeremey » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:06 am

conversationpc wrote:
So did those keep you awake at night, too, or was that just from listening to Priest? :lol:


I was the quintessential nerd who would read with a flashlight under the blankets! The Priest affected me more in an OCD way, where I couldn't get the tunes out of my head. It could still happen today if I went back and listened to my Metalogy box set for more than a few hours. That and the 14 year old hormones.
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