WHEN BANDS CHANGE

[edge]

i was wondering!!!

what your thoughts were on when a band changes its whole sound for instance AEROSMITH - JUST PUSH PLAY DEF LEPPARD - SLANG & X HELLOWEEN - CHARMELEON PINK CREAM 69 - CHANGE MOTLEY CRUE - GRENERATION SWINE POISON - NATIVE TOGUE HAREM SCAREM - RUBBER & ULTRA FEEL METALLICA - LOAD & RELOAD KISS - CARNIVAL OF SOULS QUEENSRYCHE - TRIBE & there's plenty of others i haven't mentioned so do you think it was a bad move SELLING OUT! or just maybe a loss of direction.or did you love it.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBJECT??

[jrnyman28]

Bands change their sounds for differnet reasons. Some are simply trying to get airplay, some truly feel different. Some evolve and some simply make a left turn. That means you have to take these changes on a case by case instance.

You mentioned Queensryche and I would say that their sound changed more on HITNF than on Tribe. But they were a band of continual evolution. After HITNF they changed a guitarists and changed their sound again for Q2k. Tribe had yat another guitarist and the hyped "return" od their original. But it also sounds heavily influenced by Tate's solo sound. Then the band revisited a classic theme with a solid lineup with an updated sound. All in all, I think evolution is fair, and to be expected.

But a band like Aerosmith, who change their sound simply to remain commercially viable lose their credibility IMO. However, they regained a lot of that cred from for deciding to left turn (and sort of return) to their roots with 'Bobo'. That was done to keep the band happy. THAT is what it's all about!

[defbezerk]

Slang was great and wish Def Leppard would have stuck in that of direction, unlike that pile of dung in X

[edge]

Slang was great and wish Def Leppard would have stuck in that of direction, unlike that pile of dung in X

bang on there man SLANGS my fave DEF LEP album & yes X is a plie of cow shite

[Sodapop_Curtis]

Slang is a very good album. Native Tongue, in my opinion, was so different, but a fantastic album for Poison.

(And since we're talking about "off" albums for a band, These Days, to me, is THE BEST Bon Jovi album available. Just a super release that I can't stop listening to and trying to convince people to give a real chance.)

[edge]

Slang is a very good album. Native Tongue, in my opinion, was so different, but a fantastic album for Poison.

(And since we're talking about "off" albums for a band, These Days, to me, is THE BEST Bon Jovi album available. Just a super release that I can't stop listening to and trying to convince people to give a real chance.)

with out doub't JOVI'S best album you shouldn't have to convince people because it's just awesome & native tongue a great album also to be honest these days & native tongue are the only records now I listen to by the these bands.

[T-Bone]

I agree to some extent that bands DO need to change with the times, but then again, some bands keep rooted and still sell out arena's time after time... Rolling Stones, AC/DC, Iron Maiden (for the most part), Rush, etc...

I don't mind change as long as a band does it gradually and doesn't look like they're trying to hop the "popular" bandwagon as it zips past them. Bon Jovi, although they are still popular, are a classic example of a band who changes too much between albums, and then has the nerve to rip on the things that made them popular back in the 80's. They lost me after New Jersey.

I like smoothe and subtle changes where you don't realize that a band is evolving. The kind where long time fans can still hear the band they love, but the band can gather new fans along the way.

Some bands change because a key ingredient has changed, such as a vocalist. Guitarists, for the most part, drummers and bass players can change and most people cannot tell the difference, but a vocalist is the guy up front and they become what the crowd hears first. Van Halen and AC/DC are a classic examples. Two distinct era's for each band, but both very successful. Not too many bands can pull that off... Motley Crue, LA Guns, Warrant, Quiet Riot, etc... all changed vocalists, and nearly fell off the planet because of it.

As for the CD's Edge posted about:

Aerosmith - Just Push Play: I never cared for Aerosmith, but this album was a big jump from their previous sound

Def Leppard - Slang: Although I didn't mind this album and all in all, I thought lyrically and production-wise, it was top notch, it just didn't have the "Rock" vibe going like Adrenalize did. Euphoria was a great CD and I had high hopes and then they released that steaming pile of donkey-dung known as X

Helloween - Chameleon: Not too bad of a CD for the most part, but still too big of a jump for a band to take without losing fans in the process

Pink Cream 69 - Change: Horrible release, and I'm a HUGE PC69 fan. Even Food For Thought took some getting used to, but that album grew on me over time and I love it now. Electrified was a nice return to the Melodic Rock/Metal sound.

Motley Crue - Generation Swine: #$#$%#*%^#^%@!!!!!! To say the least..... Pew

Poison - Native Tongue: Ritchie's Blusey playing overtook Poisons sound, and although it's a decent release, it's STILL not Poison.

Harem Scarem - Rubber: I knew things were going downhill after Mood Swings. Voice Of Reason didn't even come close to the Mood Swings sound. It seemed to take an alternative vibe and then the Rubber broke.... Enough said

Metallica - Load & Reload: Sellouts....

Kiss - Carnival Of Souls: I got ahold of these Demo's 3 years before this album was ever released and it blew goats. NOT a KISS album at all....

Queensryche - Tribe: They lost their marbles after Empire.....

[Sodapop_Curtis]

with out doub't JOVI'S best album you shouldn't have to convince people because it's just awesome & native tongue a great album also to be honest these days & native tongue are the only records now I listen to by the these bands.

I'm gonna always think that these two albums are stellar releases, even if not in the typical style of each of the bands, but it's always great to hear that someone agrees. (And while I can't say that I listen exclusively to either album, I too find myself picking those discs out to listen to more than the "classic" material from either band.)

[The Crew]

Change SUCKS! Bands such as Tesla, Rush, AC/DC and KIX have always kept it the same.

I don't like it when a band puts an album out and it is clear that they are trying to get air play.