Jeremey forum update The Dealbreaker

[Clasicrockldy]

Well said! Mrs. AR! nolippin just doesn't get this. And what is more telling is that nolippin isn't holding Frick and Frack to that "professionalism" he/she touts that Jeremey should have done with the auditions and band discussions. I am curious on how nolippin' made it this far in life with lack of brains.

Very interesting take, Sallie. Hmmm.... So, is what you're saying that Frick and Frack are not only first-class jerkweeds, but also unprofessional to boot??? Kinda hypocritical, huh? Whoda thunk it...

Frick and Frack did have their wives, kids, g/f's there for auditions and discussions, so yes, they were unprofessional as well. So nolippin', what do you think about that? Hold Frick and Frack accountable for that too, not just Jeremey. Then go fuck off prick.

[Clasicrockldy]

Jeremey is the one who decided to drag his wife into this.

Oh fucking shut up, nolippin'! Your argument doesn't hold water. Now go piss yourself silly.

[JH'sTXfan]

I've never heard Jeremey play, nor seen any of his you tube videos. I've ZERO concept of what the man can or cannot do.

That is easy to remedy. Click below.

Here's another one. Recorded by some "groupie" (me) on my digital camera. Totally blew me away!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

Really good video Donnap. This would be a great one to add to the play list.

[nolippin]

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

Jeremey is the one who decided to drag his wife into this.

Oh fucking shut up, nolippin'! Your argument doesn't hold water. Now go piss yourself silly.

[nolippin]

I know Jeremey as well as you do. I can also read what he is writing...not what he is spinning. His dragging his wife into this was cowardly, IMO. Do you think he discussed that with her?

Jeremey is the one who decided to drag his wife into this.

Oh fucking shut up, nolippin'! Your argument doesn't hold water. Now go piss yourself silly.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

We've got enough assholes in this world. Don't add to the list. I think Classicrockldy's suggestion was your best bet. You know nothing about Jeremey.

[Rick]

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

If I were you, I'd take Classicrockldy's advice. The world has enough assholes in it, don't add to the list.

[donnaplease]

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

He isn't blaming anyone for anything. You are. And you're looking like a royal ass in doing it.

[Clasicrockldy]

I don't see where Jeremey laid blame on his wife. You are reaching so far to grab something to keep this argument going, and you are looking stupid while doing it.

And btw, why don't you hold Frick and Frack to the same " professionalism" that you keep harping on about, the one you think Jeremey should of done when having the auditions and band discussions? Seems like they were being "unprofessional" having wives, g/f's and kids there during auditions and band discussions You are avoiding this fact like the plague.

Now go home to mommy.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

Jeremey is the one who decided to drag his wife into this.

Oh fucking shut up, nolippin'! Your argument doesn't hold water. Now go piss yourself silly.

[nolippin]

In his own words:

http://bullmuse.wordpress.com/

anyway, the dealbreaker was my relationship with my wife and my family. i was told after a band meeting to arrive on my own for a sit-down before working on some demos. i was surprised to hear that neal was completely freaked out by my wife all week. i was told that to move forward with the band, my relationship with my wife would need to change. despite her pregnancy and the life-altering decisions that sat before us, apparently she had been too clingy and asked too many questions during the week about an upcoming tour. apparently the breaking point for neal was during my audition for azoff’s management team. i was extremely nervous during the audition, as i had been told by people in the band that the management team was initially very much against me. i was told i would have to give them “a jeremey facial” (exact quote) and just bring the same level of energy and personality from my performances with Frontiers to the audition process. with john baruck and irving azoff sitting literally inches from my face in this empty warehouse, it was a pretty daunting performance. i was wired, and it showed in my performance.
after about the 3rd song, i was able to focus on my wife and get my breathing under control and calm down a bit. sabrina looked concerned, and a couple of times made a few hand motions, like “tone it down a bit.” not a big deal, she is a calming influence to me, and i was lucky to have her to focus on for the remainder of the audition.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

He isn't blaming anyone for anything. You are. And you're looking like a royal ass in doing it.

[Rick]

I know Jeremey as well as you do. I can also read what he is writing...not what he is spinning. His dragging his wife into this was cowardly, IMO. Do you think he discussed that with her?

No you don't. Anyone that thinks like you do, couldn't know him. You know nothing.

How the fuck is it cowardly? She was pregnant. She had the right to know and had the right to be involved in the decision making. I don't know what kind of marriage you have, but a man and wife are a team. It's none of your business anyway.

Leave the topic to those that have something constructive to say.

[Clasicrockldy]

Damn, you stupid fucker. Of course she knows! Do you think Jeremey would just up and write a blog without Sabrina knowing? You are a stupid moron. They discuss things together, idiot. I bet you are just a young fucker who doesn't know squat about marriage.

Keep at this, and sometime soon it will be bye bye for you!

I know Jeremey as well as you do. I can also read what he is writing...not what he is spinning. His dragging his wife into this was cowardly, IMO. Do you think he discussed that with her?

Jeremey is the one who decided to drag his wife into this.

Oh fucking shut up, nolippin'! Your argument doesn't hold water. Now go piss yourself silly.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

We've got enough assholes in this world. Don't add to the list. I think Classicrockldy's suggestion was your best bet. You know nothing about Jeremey.

[frfksakes]

Sometimes less is more. Restraint is strength.
Taking the high road with a bunch of anonymous baiters - priceless.

lol, I agree.

"The best revenge is a life well lived"

I don't know who said that, but it fits.

Take a page from JSS, lol

No one deserves to skewer Journey more than him, lol but instead of wasting another second on those idiots,
he moved on incredibly fast, taking many of us who had never heard of him before along the ride with him.
Look at his thread, lol, it's mostly Journey fans!!! I can't think of a better FU than that!

(ps you rock Clasicrockldy, lol)

[Clasicrockldy]

Yes, those are his own words, but it was Frick and Frack who had the problem with Sabrina. THEY made it an issue. Get that through your fucking thick head. Jeremey wasn't laying blame on Sabrina, but telling you WHO HAD THE FUCKING PROBLEM! NEAL AND JON HAVE THE ISSUE WITH HER.

Now go back to that slime infested hole and stay there.

In his own words:

http://bullmuse.wordpress.com/

anyway, the dealbreaker was my relationship with my wife and my family. i was told after a band meeting to arrive on my own for a sit-down before working on some demos. i was surprised to hear that neal was completely freaked out by my wife all week. i was told that to move forward with the band, my relationship with my wife would need to change. despite her pregnancy and the life-altering decisions that sat before us, apparently she had been too clingy and asked too many questions during the week about an upcoming tour. apparently the breaking point for neal was during my audition for azoff’s management team. i was extremely nervous during the audition, as i had been told by people in the band that the management team was initially very much against me. i was told i would have to give them “a jeremey facial” (exact quote) and just bring the same level of energy and personality from my performances with Frontiers to the audition process. with john baruck and irving azoff sitting literally inches from my face in this empty warehouse, it was a pretty daunting performance. i was wired, and it showed in my performance.
after about the 3rd song, i was able to focus on my wife and get my breathing under control and calm down a bit. sabrina looked concerned, and a couple of times made a few hand motions, like “tone it down a bit.” not a big deal, she is a calming influence to me, and i was lucky to have her to focus on for the remainder of the audition.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

He isn't blaming anyone for anything. You are. And you're looking like a royal ass in doing it.

[nolippin]

Sorry, there, Rick, but message forums don't work that way. When the discussion was brought to this board, it opened up to include people who see it differently.

Jeremey has a blog with a comments section where he can edit out all comments that he doesn't like. Seems only 7 comments have been posted. Perhaps, you should post your constructive comments there.

It's as much my business as yours. Your ilk continues to try and create some outrage that Jeremey wasn't chosen as Journey's lead singer. He just doesn't have the support for such an outrage.

I know Jeremey as well as you do. I can also read what he is writing...not what he is spinning. His dragging his wife into this was cowardly, IMO. Do you think he discussed that with her?

No you don't. Anyone that thinks like you do, couldn't know him. You know nothing.

How the fuck is it cowardly? She was pregnant. She had the right to know and had the right to be involved in the decision making. I don't know what kind of marriage you have, but a man and wife are a team. It's none of your business anyway.

Leave the topic to those that have something constructive to say.

[donnaplease]

Believe what you want. If Jeremey has a professional bone left in his body, it knows that I'm right, and he will stop this bitter crusade before he gets his butt blacklisted.

I have to say that I agree with Nolippin. I actually supported Jeremey's decision to write the blog at first and I really like the guy's voice - particularly on the original material he's written. So I'm not writing from a hostile perspective at all.

But after catching up on all the recent posts here which the blog has now inspired...I've got to say that Jeremey isn't coming out of this at all well now. And I hope he can pull back from this.

What advantage can there be to opening the door to a conversation amongst a bunch of online nutters like us about your own wife and her possible role in this opportunity not working out ? Here we are discussing the guy's family now. It's completely ridiculous and totally unprofessional.

If anything the recent arguments actually justify Schon and Cain's instinct that Jeremey has problems with maintaining 'boundaries' regarding both his family and the increasingly hostile fan base.

Anyway...just my opinion...and I'm not saying this to bash Jeremey who's always seemed like a really good bloke to me....but I hope that somebody he trusts will do the right thing and pursuade him to lay low for a while.

Matthew, what I (and many others) read in this latest blog entry is that he had a life-altering decision to make. He is talking from his perspective, not casting blame, not criticizing anyone. Musicians do this sort of thing all the time. I can understand where you'd think this might be harmful to Jeremey. But on the flip side of it, perhaps there are folks out there who are as disgusted with Journey's antics as we are, and thus respect him all the more for his principles. It could go either way, or it could remain exactly the same. IDK.

It's Jeremey's call, whether he wants to continue the blog or not. Either way, I will support him, because I don't think he's writing it out of malice.

[Rick]

Sorry, there, Rick, but message forums don't work that way. When the discussion was brought to this board, it opened up to include people who see it differently.

Jeremey has a blog with a comments section where he can edit out all comments that he doesn't like. Seems only 7 comments have been posted. Perhaps, you should post your constructive comments there.

It's as much my business as yours. Your ilk continues to try and create some outrage that Jeremey wasn't chosen as Journey's lead singer. He just doesn't have the support for such an outrage.

You obviously have no idea how a message board works. The reply goes below.

No, this is a thread about his blog, not a thread for destructive criticism. Maybe you should create your own thread and bash him there.

It's nobody's business what he and his wife decide to do with his career. It's their business. He was kind enough to share it with us, but it still is none of our business what they choose to do.

I'm not with an ilk you fucking jackass. I'm my own person. Fuck off.

[nolippin]

I'm not the one insulting other forum members with my filthy mouth for having an opinion different from theirs.

There are two people on this forum who can tell me I'm out of line. You aren't one of them.

Damn, you stupid fucker. Of course she knows! Do you think Jeremey would just up and write a blog without Sabrina knowing? You are a stupid moron. They discuss things together, idiot. I bet you are just a young fucker who doesn't know squat about marriage.

Keep at this, and sometime soon it will be bye bye for you!

I know Jeremey as well as you do. I can also read what he is writing...not what he is spinning. His dragging his wife into this was cowardly, IMO. Do you think he discussed that with her?

Jeremey is the one who decided to drag his wife into this.

Oh fucking shut up, nolippin'! Your argument doesn't hold water. Now go piss yourself silly.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

We've got enough assholes in this world. Don't add to the list. I think Classicrockldy's suggestion was your best bet. You know nothing about Jeremey.

[Clasicrockldy]

I'm not the one insulting other forum members with my filthy mouth for having an opinion different from theirs.

There are two people on this forum who can tell me I'm out of line. You aren't one of them.

I am insulting YOU, not other forum members. And I can counter your opinions with my own. Here in this case, you lose, fucker, because none of your arguments will hold water. You are here because you have a major boner for going off about Jeremey and what he should of done. That isn't really your business, and I don't know why you make it your business. If you don't like how things went down, then don't read the blog.

And still you have avoided answering this like it is the black death. Why aren't you holding Neal and Jon to that "professionalism" you keep saying Jeremey should of had when their own wives, g/f's, and kids were there during audtions and band discussions?

[nolippin]

This thread was started for no other reason than to open up the tiresome bashing of Journey yet again. It was started by someone with less than 10 posts. Something your ilk usually jumps on as being nothing but a baiter, but this thread furthers the agenda of the bashers so you jump on those who disagree with you instead. Typical...tiresome, but typical.

Jeremey is not going to be the lead singer for Journey. Andrew has confirmed that. Live with it.

Sorry, there, Rick, but message forums don't work that way. When the discussion was brought to this board, it opened up to include people who see it differently.

Jeremey has a blog with a comments section where he can edit out all comments that he doesn't like. Seems only 7 comments have been posted. Perhaps, you should post your constructive comments there.

It's as much my business as yours. Your ilk continues to try and create some outrage that Jeremey wasn't chosen as Journey's lead singer. He just doesn't have the support for such an outrage.

You obviously have no idea how a message board works. The reply goes below.

No, this is a thread about his blog, not a thread for destructive criticism. Maybe you should create your own thread and bash him there.

It's nobody's business what he and his wife decide to do with his career. It's their business. He was kind enough to share it with us, but it still is none of our business what they choose to do.

I'm not with an ilk you fucking jackass. I'm my own person. Fuck off.

[Moon Beam]

I'm going by what Jeremey is saying himself.
It doesn't matter how nice the lady may be...she had NO business in discussions with the band.

Do you not understand what an open invitation means.
She was not present when they did not want her to be.
If you invited me or anyone else anywhere and expected
"your guests" to remain silent, I think you would come out
on the ars card end of that invitation.

[Rick]

This thread was started for no other reason than to open up the tiresome bashing of Journey yet again. It was started by someone with less than 10 posts. Something your ilk usually jumps on as being nothing but a baiter, but this thread furthers the agenda of the bashers so you jump on those who disagree with you instead. Typical...tiresome, but typical.

Your ilk, (you and Fyre) get some kind of sick pleasure out of bashing Jeremey. Why don't you find something constructive to discuss? Are you capable of constructive discussion?

Jeremey is not going to be the lead singer for Journey. Andrew has confirmed that. Live with it.

Jeremey confirmed it as well. Something like two months ago. Thanks for the news flash though.

[nolippin]

Moonbeam you seem like a nice lady, but go back and read what Jeremey wrote himself. No where does it say that his wife was invited into discussions about band business...quite the contrary...he states himself that Neal in particular was "freaked out" by her.

For Jeremey to now drag his business and his wife's all over the internet is cowardly and unprofessional. Neal and Jon did not open any discussions about Jeremey's wife or any other aspect of his audition. Jeremey did that himself, IMO, for his own self serving reasons.

I'm going by what Jeremey is saying himself.
It doesn't matter how nice the lady may be...she had NO business in discussions with the band.

Do you not understand what an open invitation means.
She was not present when they did not want her to be.
If you invited me or anyone else anywhere and expected
"your guests" to remain silent, I think you would come out
on the ars card end of that invitation.

[Clasicrockldy]

No, this thread was opened up because of another forum member posted the link to the blog, and people could post what they felt once they read what Jeremey had to say. It wasn't opened soley to bash Journey. Now there is some bashing of Journey because they are showing themselves to be total assholes. You can't see that Neal and Jon are total assholes? Damn you must be one blind motherfucker.

I, for one, am glad that Jeremey isn't going to sing for that no account band of assholes. They are on the road to oblivion.

Stilll you ignore the one thing I said. Why don't you hold Neal and Jon accountable for their "non-professionalism" of having wives, g/f's, and kids at the auditions and band discussions?

This thread was started for no other reason than to open up the tiresome bashing of Journey yet again. It was started by someone with less than 10 posts. Something your ilk usually jumps on as being nothing but a baiter, but this thread furthers the agenda of the bashers so you jump on those who disagree with you instead. Typical...tiresome, but typical.

Jeremey is not going to be the lead singer for Journey. Andrew has confirmed that. Live with it.

Sorry, there, Rick, but message forums don't work that way. When the discussion was brought to this board, it opened up to include people who see it differently.

Jeremey has a blog with a comments section where he can edit out all comments that he doesn't like. Seems only 7 comments have been posted. Perhaps, you should post your constructive comments there.

It's as much my business as yours. Your ilk continues to try and create some outrage that Jeremey wasn't chosen as Journey's lead singer. He just doesn't have the support for such an outrage.

You obviously have no idea how a message board works. The reply goes below.

No, this is a thread about his blog, not a thread for destructive criticism. Maybe you should create your own thread and bash him there.

It's nobody's business what he and his wife decide to do with his career. It's their business. He was kind enough to share it with us, but it still is none of our business what they choose to do.

I'm not with an ilk you fucking jackass. I'm my own person. Fuck off.

[donnaplease]

In his own words:

http://bullmuse.wordpress.com/

anyway, the dealbreaker was my relationship with my wife and my family. i was told after a band meeting to arrive on my own for a sit-down before working on some demos. i was surprised to hear that neal was completely freaked out by my wife all week. i was told that to move forward with the band, my relationship with my wife would need to change. despite her pregnancy and the life-altering decisions that sat before us, apparently she had been too clingy and asked too many questions during the week about an upcoming tour. apparently the breaking point for neal was during my audition for azoff’s management team. i was extremely nervous during the audition, as i had been told by people in the band that the management team was initially very much against me. i was told i would have to give them “a jeremey facial” (exact quote) and just bring the same level of energy and personality from my performances with Frontiers to the audition process. with john baruck and irving azoff sitting literally inches from my face in this empty warehouse, it was a pretty daunting performance. i was wired, and it showed in my performance.
after about the 3rd song, i was able to focus on my wife and get my breathing under control and calm down a bit. sabrina looked concerned, and a couple of times made a few hand motions, like “tone it down a bit.” not a big deal, she is a calming influence to me, and i was lucky to have her to focus on for the remainder of the audition.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

He isn't blaming anyone for anything. You are. And you're looking like a royal ass in doing it.

If you're gonna tell the story, tell ALL of it. There was no blame mentioned there. I find it interesting that you chose to bold only a portion of it, the part that you think bolsters your argument. If you read only that part, then perhaps you're right, it does look damaging. But when you read the entire text, it paints a very different picture. Your argument is weak, at best.

[nolippin]

And for two months he has been whining about it all over the internet.

I haven't bashed Jeremey. I have offered my opinions about what he has posted jsut as you and others have. I'm expecting him to be man enough to own his part in Journey's decision to pass on him as their lead singer and move on instead of adding to the bashing of a band we all grew up with.

This thread was started for no other reason than to open up the tiresome bashing of Journey yet again. It was started by someone with less than 10 posts. Something your ilk usually jumps on as being nothing but a baiter, but this thread furthers the agenda of the bashers so you jump on those who disagree with you instead. Typical...tiresome, but typical.

Your ilk, (you and Fyre) get some kind of sick pleasure out of bashing Jeremey. Why don't you find something constructive to discuss? Are you capable of constructive discussion?

Jeremey is not going to be the lead singer for Journey. Andrew has confirmed that. Live with it.

Jeremey confirmed it as well. Something like two months ago. Thanks for the news flash though.

[JH'sTXfan]

I haven't bashed Jeremey.

That's BS. You've called him cowardly twice now.

[nolippin]

The whole story is there for those who care to read it as well as the link to the whole bitter tirade.

In his own words:

http://bullmuse.wordpress.com/

anyway, the dealbreaker was my relationship with my wife and my family. i was told after a band meeting to arrive on my own for a sit-down before working on some demos. i was surprised to hear that neal was completely freaked out by my wife all week. i was told that to move forward with the band, my relationship with my wife would need to change. despite her pregnancy and the life-altering decisions that sat before us, apparently she had been too clingy and asked too many questions during the week about an upcoming tour. apparently the breaking point for neal was during my audition for azoff’s management team. i was extremely nervous during the audition, as i had been told by people in the band that the management team was initially very much against me. i was told i would have to give them “a jeremey facial” (exact quote) and just bring the same level of energy and personality from my performances with Frontiers to the audition process. with john baruck and irving azoff sitting literally inches from my face in this empty warehouse, it was a pretty daunting performance. i was wired, and it showed in my performance.
after about the 3rd song, i was able to focus on my wife and get my breathing under control and calm down a bit. sabrina looked concerned, and a couple of times made a few hand motions, like “tone it down a bit.” not a big deal, she is a calming influence to me, and i was lucky to have her to focus on for the remainder of the audition.

I have as much right to speak as you do. NO...I won't "shut up" no matter how eloquently you request it. LMAO!

It was Jeremey's decision to blame his failure on his wife just as it was his decision to don wigs and tails and become a Perry impersonator. He has no one to blame for his plight but himself.

He isn't blaming anyone for anything. You are. And you're looking like a royal ass in doing it.

If you're gonna tell the story, tell ALL of it. There was no blame mentioned there. I find it interesting that you chose to bold only a portion of it, the part that you think bolsters your argument. If you read only that part, then perhaps you're right, it does look damaging. But when you read the entire text, it paints a very different picture. Your argument is weak, at best.

[Rick]

And for two months he has been whining about it all over the internet.

I haven't bashed Jeremey. I have offered my opinions about what he has posted jsut as you and others have. I'm expecting him to be man enough to own his part in Journey's decision to pass on him as their lead singer and move on instead of adding to the bashing of a band we all grew up with.

If you don't like it, don't read it.

Then we haven't bashed Journey, we've just offered our opinions on them just as you have. Jeremey hasn't bashed them once. He's given his opinion on what happened with his audition. The fact he was asked to audition speaks volumes about his talent. And for your information, evidently you misread this time, Jeremey turned them down.

[nolippin]

I've called his actions cowardly, and I stand by my opinion.

I haven't bashed Jeremey.

That's BS. You've called him cowardly twice now.

[AR]

I don't post here very often but I just had to add my "two cents"

FIRST OFF, let me say that I want to commend Jeremy for putting his family first before what probably would have been a "dream job".

SECOND, let me just say I was outraged by what Jeremy posted on his blog about the band's view of his family situation. As a wife and a mother I cannot believe that the band would actually expect someone to put his life/family on hold for a band gig...let me rephrase that, put his life on hold for Journey. Don't get me wrong, I love Journey as much as the rest of the people on this thread. Well Journey, Smourney, who the fuck do they think they are???? Not that I would ever think it was right to ask anyone to give up the precious moments of their child's first steps and/or first words and give themsevles 100% but I think it would be a little more tolerable if they were the hottest band of today making millions of $$$$ But the fact is (and I know some of you will take offense to this) they are a bunch of "has been" old men. And to make those type of demands on someone just because their wife made a couple hand signals during an audition. On top of everything, I can't imagine what Sabrina must be thinking with the knowledge that her presence at the audition was a supposed deal-breaker. That's a lot of stress/pressure to place on a pregnant women who's going through a complicated pregnancy and then makes a trip clear across the country for that??????!!!!!! That's a crock of shit!!!!

On a personal note, I have only met Sabrina once but let me say, what a fantastic person. When I saw Frontiers with my husband, AR, and the rest of the crew in College Park, I suddenly was plagued with a intense migraine headache and all of the fixin's (nausea, etc.). A very kind Frontiers agreed to let me stay back stage where I could lay down in the dark. Well, a 5-month pregnant Sabrina with her maternal instincts already kicking in, repeatedly came backstage to check on me to make sure I was OK. That's pretty nice for someone you just met (Thank you, Sabrina). All I have to say is shame on Journey and Neal Schon, what an ass!!!

Sidenote: Like I said, I don't post here often, so I never got a chance to say congratulations to Jeremy and Sabrina on the arrival of your beautiful little boy!!!! Welcome to the wonderful world of sleep deprivation Actually, neither Ed or I can complain about that because Kristen started sleeping through the night at 4 weeks. However, we're getting our payback now because she's starting to have "night terrors". Nothing like being awaken by the ear-piercing shrill of a little one that is having a nightmare Thank God she goes right back to sleep.

Take care!!

Lori (Mrs. AR)

Way to go honey. Well said, and welcome back to MR. I forgot you had a login. The fact that my wife felt strongly enough about this to post ought to tell you what a bunch of creeps Frig and Fro really are.