Steve Perry...Steve F*** Perry

[summergirl]

A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.

I'd like to see the quotes on this, too. I've seen video and audio from WOF and after the event, plus read all the band member interviews about it. I have yet to see anything from Perry saying how "warm and friendly Neal was" and that the "others were not", or him saying that is what swayed his decision on not doing a reunion show. To my knowledge, none of that was ever on video OR in print. Please back this up with links.

There are no links. I know the person he told this to in a private conversation, and that person told me.

[heardonthestreet]

A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.

I'd like to see the quotes on this, too. I've seen video and audio from WOF and after the event, plus read all the band member interviews about it. I have yet to see anything from Perry saying how "warm and friendly Neal was" and that the "others were not", or him saying that is what swayed his decision on not doing a reunion show. To my knowledge, none of that was ever on video OR in print. Please back this up with links.

Oh, I forgot to mention in that other thread that I heard that a couple of Schon's ex's were posting here also.

[EightyRock]

HOTS said:
Oh, I forgot to mention in that other thread that I heard that a couple of Schon's ex's were posting here also.

OK, THAT explains it.

[Vladan]

You know....I've been bashing that piece of shit Schon for, what it feels like, years now. That'll never stop.

But I realized something this fine evening....that this band is completely shit without Steve Perry. No fucking singer, no matter how fucking good, whether it's Augeri, Soto, the new fucking outsourced throat or any fucking one else....can even come close to Perry. Even if Perry's singing voice is diminished by age or mileage....there's a tonality to his voice that is can not be immitated by anyone else...I dont care who the fuck you are.

David Coverdale may have the Jorn Lande waiting in the wings....but there isn't a fucking singer out there that can match Perry, no matter what crack you smoke or weed you inhale or whatever....

and until the day these fucking idiots, from schon to the faggot behind the whale.....realize that the only thing that's going to save this band's ass is STEVE FUCKING PERRY.....they will continue to drive this band and its good name into the dirt, along with the half eaten dog bones!

That's my position and I'm fucking sticking to it. This band is completely and utterly shit, without Perry. No one can touch the fucker...and none of you out there in internet land can make a case otherwise...no matter how hard you fucking try.

Until the day that Neal Schon, fat, bloated, and desperate for alimony....crawls on his hands and knees and begs Steve to return....and Steve decides to grant this fucking piece of shit forgiveness.....will this band EVER return to stardom.

It's fucking done people....no one can do it but Perry...not Augeri, not Soto, not some outsourced hotel bar singer from the far ends of the earth...it's simply done!

Until the day Steve comes back, this is simply the end....dead and burried.

Lol, well I agree with you - the way your speaking from the heart, but the language I don't agree with - everything is, well that's fine well said (apart from the swearing).

[Rockindeano]

Lol, well I agree with you - the way your speaking from the heart, but the language I don't agree with - everything is, well that's fine well said (apart from the swearing).

What the fuck is wrong with his language? Dude fuckin speaks from the heart and you fuckin berate his ass. It's only a swear word and dude operates better dropping F bombs. Dude, you are proving how fucking soft and gay soccer is by complaining of some fucking swearing. It's only fucking swearing..not like it's going to fucking hurt you for fuck's sake. Jesus fucking Christ, grow some fucking balls already, shit!

[Red13JoePa]

A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.

Where's that link? I don't remember this....

LOL!!!
Yea, Christ forbid Neal not be THE root of ALL evil.

Summergirl I remember similar sentiments expressed somewhere IN print by Perry. It wasn't about that WOF day in particular but he applied it to their whole careers, differences aside.

[ArnelRox]

Until the day Steve comes back, this is simply the end....dead and burried.

I guess u will miss out on all the fun then. Perry aint coming back b/c he doesnt want to & that's his decision to make. It doesn't mean everyone else has to stop. Before u call someone a "hotel singer" u might want to research their background a bit tho.

[fredinator]

I loved your post Frank even though I disagree with you re: Neal; it sounds (and I may be wrong here) like you still care about Journey and want them to be at the pinnacle of all rock and roll bands... Me, too, but sadly I think they jumped the shark 20 years ago for that honor... There is a saying that "you can never go home again" or something like that--I think that's true. It will never be like it was even if SP came back--those times are gone. However, there must be SOMETHING going on--KS sounds excited on his blog, even beyond hyping the cd, and I thought it was awesome that Herbie is in some way involved. Actually I don't know what to think, but I am still very hopeful.

[Playitloudforme]

A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.

I'd like to see the quotes on this, too. I've seen video and audio from WOF and after the event, plus read all the band member interviews about it. I have yet to see anything from Perry saying how "warm and friendly Neal was" and that the "others were not", or him saying that is what swayed his decision on not doing a reunion show. To my knowledge, none of that was ever on video OR in print. Please back this up with links.

There are no links. I know the person he told this to in a private conversation, and that person told me.

Then it's hearsay.

[CatEyes]

I liken this to the feeling of clutching your Powerball ticket, knowing full well the odds are in favor of lightening striking you before you'll ever win,

Yeah people always say that you have a better chance of being struck by lightning or hit by a truck than you have winning the lottery.

5 years ago I was struck by lightning - no damage really - just everything looked purple for a fiew days - it was kind of like living in a Prince video.

Yesterday (Friday) at 7:45 a.m. on the way to work, the car I was riding in was struck by the same truck twice (drunk drivers at 7:45 a.m. are soooooo charming)

Today - I bought 5 lottery tix.

It's time, bay-beeeee

Cat

[summergirl]

A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.

I'd like to see the quotes on this, too. I've seen video and audio from WOF and after the event, plus read all the band member interviews about it. I have yet to see anything from Perry saying how "warm and friendly Neal was" and that the "others were not", or him saying that is what swayed his decision on not doing a reunion show. To my knowledge, none of that was ever on video OR in print. Please back this up with links.

There are no links. I know the person he told this to in a private conversation, and that person told me.

Then it's hearsay.

Actually, it's a fact.

[Playitloudforme]

A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.

I'd like to see the quotes on this, too. I've seen video and audio from WOF and after the event, plus read all the band member interviews about it. I have yet to see anything from Perry saying how "warm and friendly Neal was" and that the "others were not", or him saying that is what swayed his decision on not doing a reunion show. To my knowledge, none of that was ever on video OR in print. Please back this up with links.

There are no links. I know the person he told this to in a private conversation, and that person told me.

Then it's hearsay.

Actually, it's a fact.

Without proof, it's still hearsay. He said, she said. Happens all the time.

[summergirl]

A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.

I'd like to see the quotes on this, too. I've seen video and audio from WOF and after the event, plus read all the band member interviews about it. I have yet to see anything from Perry saying how "warm and friendly Neal was" and that the "others were not", or him saying that is what swayed his decision on not doing a reunion show. To my knowledge, none of that was ever on video OR in print. Please back this up with links.

There are no links. I know the person he told this to in a private conversation, and that person told me.

Then it's hearsay.

Actually, it's a fact.

Without proof, it's still hearsay. He said, she said. Happens all the time.

Yes, hearsay to you. Fact to me, because I was in the room when the conversation took place over the phone.

[Playitloudforme]

Summergirl, in all fairness, anyone can claim anything they like on the internet, it happens all the time. That's why you'll see people ask for the links, because more people than can be imagined make 'claims'.

I'm not stating that I don't think you are telling the truth. But I don't know you. I have no reason to believe or not believe you. I could just as easily state that I talk to Steve (I don't ok...but it's that easy). Phone calls, second-handed claims, etc... = hearsay. Without it being in print or heard by multiple credible people, it's up to the individual to say whether or not they believe it or not. Put it this way, if it was Lora or Cyndy making that statement I'd believe it. They have a personal history with him and a history of being credible.

Making statements based upon verbal discussions that may or may not have happened will be questioned. There's just been too many people in the past making claims over the years for us to buy into all of them.

[summergirl]

Summergirl, in all fairness, anyone can claim anything they like on the internet, it happens all the time. That's why you'll see people ask for the links, because more people than can be imagined make 'claims'.

I'm not stating that I don't think you are telling the truth. But I don't know you. I have no reason to believe or not believe you. I could just as easily state that I talk to Steve (I don't ok...but it's that easy). Phone calls, second-handed claims, etc... = hearsay. Without it being in print or heard by multiple credible people, it's up to the individual to say whether or not they believe it or not. Making statements based upon verbal discussions that may or may not have happened will be questioned. There's just been too many people in the past making claims over the years for us to buy into all of them.

Yes, you're right, I agree. But FYI it did happen!

[Playitloudforme]

Summergirl, in all fairness, anyone can claim anything they like on the internet, it happens all the time. That's why you'll see people ask for the links, because more people than can be imagined make 'claims'.

I'm not stating that I don't think you are telling the truth. But I don't know you. I have no reason to believe or not believe you. I could just as easily state that I talk to Steve (I don't ok...but it's that easy). Phone calls, second-handed claims, etc... = hearsay. Without it being in print or heard by multiple credible people, it's up to the individual to say whether or not they believe it or not. Making statements based upon verbal discussions that may or may not have happened will be questioned. There's just been too many people in the past making claims over the years for us to buy into all of them.

Yes, you're right, I agree. But FYI it did happen!

... and I can't say either way.

[tj]

Summergirl, in all fairness, anyone can claim anything they like on the internet, it happens all the time. That's why you'll see people ask for the links, because more people than can be imagined make 'claims'.

I'm not stating that I don't think you are telling the truth. But I don't know you. I have no reason to believe or not believe you. I could just as easily state that I talk to Steve (I don't ok...but it's that easy). Phone calls, second-handed claims, etc... = hearsay. Without it being in print or heard by multiple credible people, it's up to the individual to say whether or not they believe it or not. Making statements based upon verbal discussions that may or may not have happened will be questioned. There's just been too many people in the past making claims over the years for us to buy into all of them.

Yes, you're right, I agree. But FYI it did happen!

OK, I think we all have it.

... and I can't say either way.

[Playitloudforme]

You sure about that TJ? We could go another round or two... LOL

[scarygirl]

My dear Wombat, why, pray tell, is an animated exclamation...or should I be permitted to say, expulsion of demons...be deemed over the top?

It's an exclamation from the heart. I do feel, in my heart of hearts, that this op-ed is an important declaration in these most desperate times...as Journey is on the cusp of burying its legacy in the most shallowest of graves...we must do all way can, as *true* Journey fans, to express what is the most important job we will have....

...to protect the Journey legacy from final damnation...as we stand on the edge of the gates of hell, about to be thrust into the fire of true damnation (loosely translated into 'karaoke hell with Journey's new singer')...

Who's with me!

Shall I preach on!

I'm a little late to the party , but I say PREACH ON BROTHER! I totally AGREE with you! NO, you're not over the top, you just speak the truth!

[ArnelRox]

Any chance u could give Journey's new singer a chance to be announced before u condemn him? U never know. U just might be surprised. (Hey I'm asking nicely )

[fredinator]

So, I gather that SP considered a reunion show? Dang! Was it JC who was coldish to him? Must be, since Neal gave him that sweet hug... Now what?

[bluejeangirl76]

HOTS said:
Oh, I forgot to mention in that other thread that I heard that a couple of Schon's ex's were posting here also.

OK, THAT explains it.

Yeah. I'm one of 'em. And it IS a sock. Dude couldn't fuck a fruit loop (except Cain) without breaking it.

[Rick]

HOTS said:
Oh, I forgot to mention in that other thread that I heard that a couple of Schon's ex's were posting here also.

OK, THAT explains it.

Yeah. I'm one of 'em. And it IS a sock. Dude couldn't fuck a fruit loop (except Cain) without breaking it.

That's funny.

[mistiejourney]

I guess to each their own.. I'm suprised Van Halen is still touring and someone hasn't killed Diamond Dave yet.. There are sad people out there that just can't let sleeping dogs lie.. SP said that he and Journey go through lawyers to discuss anything..How pathetic is that.. Sounds to me like someone has forgiveness issues.. Won't even put shit aside for his freaking fans.. Who do you thinks he cares about? Journey should just do what Creed(who is now AlterBridge) did.. But they should have done it in 98.. Drop the name Journey get another lead singer and start over.. They just don't want to go through all that to make another name,that's why they Drag Journey on.. I think the sole reason Perry won't come back is because they went forward and made more music without him..I think that was the unforgivable act.. he can't get past that..And now he has such had feelings about it,he won't even talk to the rest of the band..That's pretty sad..It was all his doing! I'm not going to start a business with someone..They decide they don't want to do it anymore and then tell me to change the name..BS.. That's what SP wanted,and the rest didn't want that..SP left journey in a horse sh*t position and they decided to move forward,right or wrong..You don't know for sure until you try..

Well, someone actually wrote down what I have actually been thinking over the last ten years. I wish I could have stated it so clearly. I love SP like nobody's business, and I'd kill to hear him again, but he isn't the "victim". He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.

I'm putting on my asbestos jumpsuit, but before you flame, remember I am a HUGE Perry fan. I just don't believe he is a saint - just a regular man with a heavenly voice and faults like everyone else.

[ArnelRox]

He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.

I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.

[mistiejourney]

I am going to take a shit now. Much Taco Bell. Thought you all would like to know.

Shall I post pics? PM if you want to see.

How sweet of you to ask!!! I think I'll pass on this one (no pun intended).

[Rick]

He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.

I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.

I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom.

[treetopovskaya]

haha! i just saved that pic... thanks! }:C))

Where's the picture of Captain Obvious when we need him?

Dun, da da!

[ArnelRox]

He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.

I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.

I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom.

I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?

[Rick]

He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.

I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.

I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom.

I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?

If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it!