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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:54 pm

summergirl wrote:A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.



Even if Perry said Neal was the only one who was warm to him, that doesn't mean he doesn't hold a grudge against him. Perry was being an obnoxious penis to Neal in the interview between them at the WOF, showing the bad blood that still exists. Neal was standing there with his hat in his hand, tossing out a fishing line to get Perry to come around that evening and sing a song or two at the after party concert (a concert which I attended). All Perry could do was cut him off by bringing up the 'other band' neal had started (Neal's solo projects were always an issue with Perry for some reason).

I'll bet my bottom dollar that this wasn't about "the rest of the band not being warm" to him. It's just another excuse not to get on stage with them. Saying it's their fault is just his way of shuffling responsibility for his decision from him to them, so he looks like the good guy.

PS: if ANYONE out there has a boot of the WOF after concert, PLEASE PM me. I was at the show and I'd love a keep sake. Smitty took the stage with the J-boys and the room exploded. Gotta have that in my collection, it was an amazing performance.
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:58 pm

STORY_TELLER wrote:
summergirl wrote:A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.



Even if Perry said Neal was the only one who was warm to him, that doesn't mean he doesn't hold a grudge against him. Perry was being an obnoxious penis to Neal in the interview between them at the WOF, showing the bad blood that still exists. Neal was standing there with his hat in his hand, tossing out a fishing line to get Perry to come around that evening and sing a song or two at the after party concert (a concert which I attended). All Perry could do was cut him off by bringing up the 'other band' neal had started (Neal's solo projects were always an issue with Perry for some reason).

I'll bet my bottom dollar that this wasn't about "the rest of the band not being warm" to him. It's just another excuse not to get on stage with them. Saying it's their fault is just his way of shuffling responsibility for his decision from him to them, so he looks like the good guy.

PS: if ANYONE out there has a boot of the WOF after concert, PLEASE PM me. I was at the show and I'd love a keep sake. Smitty took the stage with the J-boys and the room exploded. Gotta have that in my collection, it was an amazing performance.


No shit, I'd like a copy of that too.
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Postby nolippin » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:59 pm

And what a good friend you are to keep their confidence... :roll: :roll: I'm sure they will rush to tell you more so you can spread it all over the internet.



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summergirl wrote:A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.


I'd like to see the quotes on this, too. I've seen video and audio from WOF and after the event, plus read all the band member interviews about it. I have yet to see anything from Perry saying how "warm and friendly Neal was" and that the "others were not", or him saying that is what swayed his decision on not doing a reunion show. To my knowledge, none of that was ever on video OR in print. Please back this up with links.


There are no links. I know the person he told this to in a private conversation, and that person told me.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:00 pm

Rick wrote:
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Isay we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:



I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?



If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:




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Postby scarygirl » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:03 pm

Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


I'll drive the getaway car!

On second thought, I might accidently stay behind. 8) :wink:
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Postby nolippin » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:03 pm

I thought Perry was being pretty crafty. Neal tries to dangle the possibility that SP might show up every chance he gets. This time Perry dissed him on camera. Right after that he made a comment about it on FA. I don't remember the exact words, but he referenced being used.


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summergirl wrote:A lot of people assume that the relationship between Perry and Neal is what is stopping Perry from returning. It's not necessarily true... Perry himself has said that, at the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony, Neal was the only one of the band who was friendly and warm to him... the others were not, which had a lot to do with any decision he had to make when asked to return to the band for a reunion show.



Even if Perry said Neal was the only one who was warm to him, that doesn't mean he doesn't hold a grudge against him. Perry was being an obnoxious penis to Neal in the interview between them at the WOF, showing the bad blood that still exists. Neal was standing there with his hat in his hand, tossing out a fishing line to get Perry to come around that evening and sing a song or two at the after party concert (a concert which I attended). All Perry could do was cut him off by bringing up the 'other band' neal had started (Neal's solo projects were always an issue with Perry for some reason).

I'll bet my bottom dollar that this wasn't about "the rest of the band not being warm" to him. It's just another excuse not to get on stage with them. Saying it's their fault is just his way of shuffling responsibility for his decision from him to them, so he looks like the good guy.

PS: if ANYONE out there has a boot of the WOF after concert, PLEASE PM me. I was at the show and I'd love a keep sake. Smitty took the stage with the J-boys and the room exploded. Gotta have that in my collection, it was an amazing performance.
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:04 pm

scarygirl wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


I'll drive the getaway car!

On second thought, I might accidently stay behind. 8) :wink:


Well then maybe you can talk him into it. Or something.... :lol:
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Postby nolippin » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:05 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:06 pm

Rick wrote:
scarygirl wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


I'll drive the getaway car!

On second thought, I might accidently stay behind. 8) :wink:


Well then maybe you can talk him into it. Or something.... :lol:


Gee, I wonder how? Nope, can't think of a damn thing! :wink:
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Postby donnaplease » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:08 pm

STORY_TELLER wrote:
Even if Perry said Neal was the only one who was warm to him, that doesn't mean he doesn't hold a grudge against him. Perry was being an obnoxious penis to Neal in the interview between them at the WOF, showing the bad blood that still exists. Neal was standing there with his hat in his hand, tossing out a fishing line to get Perry to come around that evening and sing a song or two at the after party concert (a concert which I attended). All Perry could do was cut him off by bringing up the 'other band' neal had started (Neal's solo projects were always an issue with Perry for some reason).

I'll bet my bottom dollar that this wasn't about "the rest of the band not being warm" to him. It's just another excuse not to get on stage with them. Saying it's their fault is just his way of shuffling responsibility for his decision from him to them, so he looks like the good guy.

PS: if ANYONE out there has a boot of the WOF after concert, PLEASE PM me. I was at the show and I'd love a keep sake. Smitty took the stage with the J-boys and the room exploded. Gotta have that in my collection, it was an amazing performance.


That's not how I was told the scenario played out. I was told Neal was 'extending the invitation' to SP to sing with them, knowing full well that he would turn it down. In turn, he could say, "see, we tried..." and make SP out to be the perverbial bad guy. I was also told NS actually joked about this. I don't remember who or when, but that's how the story was relayed to me.

It's just more evidence that everyone reads into this kind of thing whatever they want it to be. I'm a 'loon', so of course I don't want to believe anything negative about my guy. Just as NS fans want to hold their guy up in the best light. What's that saying, "there's always 3 sides to every story..." :lol:
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:10 pm

scarygirl wrote:
Rick wrote:
scarygirl wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


I'll drive the getaway car!

On second thought, I might accidently stay behind. 8) :wink:


Well then maybe you can talk him into it. Or something.... :lol:


Gee, I wonder how? Nope, can't think of a damn thing! :wink:


Use that creativity SG. :lol:
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:12 pm

Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


My friend has some kittens up for adoption. Anyone know what color cats he likes?
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:13 pm

donnaplease wrote:It's just more evidence that everyone reads into this kind of thing whatever they want it to be. I'm a 'loon', so of course I don't want to believe anything negative about my guy. Just as NS fans want to hold their guy up in the best light. What's that saying, "there's always 3 sides to every story..." :lol:



That's true. People will only believe what they want to in most cases.
Neal fans believe he's the good guy.... Perry's camp wants him to be the good guy...

You ask me.. they both fucked up in their own special little ways. Who fucked up first? Or More? I dunno. I wasn't there. But if they hadn't both fucked up at some point, we wouldn't be having all the Arnel discussions at this time and we'd be trading Trial By Fire boots. It takes two people to wreck a relationship.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:13 pm

scarygirl wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


I'll drive the getaway car!

On second thought, I might accidently stay behind. 8) :wink:


Well we do need someone to tie him up & make him pay the ransom....
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:17 pm

ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


My friend has some kittens up for adoption. Anyone know what color cats he likes?


Like this one.

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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:19 pm

Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


My friend has some kittens up for adoption. Anyone know what color cats he likes?


Like this one.

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Wait I thought that one was FanAsylum's cat, not his. He was just petting it I thought. I need to know what kind of pussy Perry likes :-)
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:19 pm

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Like this one.

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Dude! That's Rufus (Fan Aslyum cat)... leave Rufus alone man! LOL.... shyt!
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:20 pm

ArnelRox wrote:Wait I thought that one was FanAsylum's cat, not his. He was just petting it I thought. I need to know what kind of pussy Perry likes :-)


Shaved ones probably. :lol:

Rufus may have to take one for the team. :wink:
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:22 pm

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Even if Perry said Neal was the only one who was warm to him, that doesn't mean he doesn't hold a grudge against him. Perry was being an obnoxious penis to Neal in the interview between them at the WOF, showing the bad blood that still exists. Neal was standing there with his hat in his hand, tossing out a fishing line to get Perry to come around that evening and sing a song or two at the after party concert (a concert which I attended). All Perry could do was cut him off by bringing up the 'other band' neal had started (Neal's solo projects were always an issue with Perry for some reason).

I'll bet my bottom dollar that this wasn't about "the rest of the band not being warm" to him. It's just another excuse not to get on stage with them. Saying it's their fault is just his way of shuffling responsibility for his decision from him to them, so he looks like the good guy.

PS: if ANYONE out there has a boot of the WOF after concert, PLEASE PM me. I was at the show and I'd love a keep sake. Smitty took the stage with the J-boys and the room exploded. Gotta have that in my collection, it was an amazing performance.


That's not how I was told the scenario played out. I was told Neal was 'extending the invitation' to SP to sing with them, knowing full well that he would turn it down. In turn, he could say, "see, we tried..." and make SP out to be the perverbial bad guy. I was also told NS actually joked about this. I don't remember who or when, but that's how the story was relayed to me.

It's just more evidence that everyone reads into this kind of thing whatever they want it to be. I'm a 'loon', so of course I don't want to believe anything negative about my guy. Just as NS fans want to hold their guy up in the best light. What's that saying, "there's always 3 sides to every story..." :lol:


Neal isn't my guy. I think he's a moron as a person, but a supremely talented moron and I'll always check out what he produces as an artist. Same goes for Perry who's an emotional basket case, but an extremely talented one and again, I'll always check out what he does as an artist.

One side, three sides, doesn't matter in this context. Even if what you're saying is true, it doesn't matter if Neal knew Perry would turn it down. I don't know the man and I would have put my money on him turning it down too. The point is, yet another olive branch was extended and rejected. What, you think Neal would have been upset if Perry said yes and showed up? Seriously, Perry would be in Journey if Perry wanted to be in Journey. Neal doesn't want him gone. He knows Perry is the element of financial success for the band. No one in the band doesn't want Perry to front Journey. They only moved on because Perry had no intention of returning and they had to make a living again.
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Postby mistiejourney » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:22 pm

ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
mistiejourney wrote: He strung the band out once before, and they were not willing to have him do it again.


I do believe THEY are willing. It's him that isnt willing & there's not much anyone can do about that.


I say we kidnap his damn cat and hold it for performance ransom. :lol:


I'm in. Wait does he still have a cat?


If not, we'll give him one for Christmas, then kidnap it! :lol:


My friend has some kittens up for adoption. Anyone know what color cats he likes?


Like this one.

Image


Wait I thought that one was FanAsylum's cat, not his. He was just petting it I thought. I need to know what kind of pussy Perry likes :-)


So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:24 pm

Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:Wait I thought that one was FanAsylum's cat, not his. He was just petting it I thought. I need to know what kind of pussy Perry likes :-)


Shaved ones probably. :lol:

Rufus may have to take one for the team. :wink:


ROTFL! Wouldn't that traumatize the guy? Wouldn't want him to be CATATONIC.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:25 pm

scarygirl wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:Wait I thought that one was FanAsylum's cat, not his. He was just petting it I thought. I need to know what kind of pussy Perry likes :-)


Shaved ones probably. :lol:

Rufus may have to take one for the team. :wink:


ROTFL! Wouldn't that traumatize the guy? Wouldn't want him to be CATATONIC.


OMG...Rufus, baby... RUN!

Sooo not ok.. gaaah... noooo.... aaaaaaaugh... nooooo.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:25 pm

mistiejourney wrote:So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)


As long as he likes pussy, it's all good. :-)
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:26 pm

scarygirl wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:Wait I thought that one was FanAsylum's cat, not his. He was just petting it I thought. I need to know what kind of pussy Perry likes :-)


Shaved ones probably. :lol:

Rufus may have to take one for the team. :wink:


ROTFL! Wouldn't that traumatize the guy? Wouldn't want him to be CATATONIC.


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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:34 pm

mistiejourney wrote:
So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)



Steve Perry attracts pussy. It's a fact.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:37 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:
So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)



Steve Perry attracts pussy. It's a fact.


Agreed :-)
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:58 pm

ArnelRox wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:
So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)



Steve Perry attracts pussy. It's a fact.


Agreed :-)


But the question is what kind? So we can give him one to kidnap.

That is what you meant right? :lol:
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Postby nolippin » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:01 pm

I think we need to "kidnap" whatever that is you're smokin'!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:
So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)



Steve Perry attracts pussy. It's a fact.


Agreed :-)


But the question is what kind? So we can give him one to kidnap.

That is what you meant right? :lol:
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:05 pm

Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:
So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)



Steve Perry attracts pussy. It's a fact.


Agreed :-)


But the question is what kind? So we can give him one to kidnap.

That is what you meant right? :lol:


I think we should first find out if he currently has a pussy. That would save us a lot of trouble & he'd be more attached to the one he has than one we'd give him :-)
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:19 pm

ArnelRox wrote:
Rick wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:
So many comments, so few appropriate....... 8)



Steve Perry attracts pussy. It's a fact.


Agreed :-)


But the question is what kind? So we can give him one to kidnap.

That is what you meant right? :lol:


I think we should first find out if he currently has a pussy. That would save us a lot of trouble & he'd be more attached to the one he has than one we'd give him :-)




He does not have a pussy. See.....


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That does not look like a pussy to me.

OHHHHHHHHHH - you mean a KITTY CAT!!!! Sorry. My bad.
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