Steve Augeri _ I am so sorry!

[Red13JoePa]

Not everyone, I keep towing the same line (though I am admittedly gritting my teeth through the Pineda noise).

[Rick]

what did neal do?

Nothing.

[brywool]

wow, this is weird. People are actually sticking up for Augeri. What the heck happened?
'Bout time.

Hey, I know I'm a semi regular here, but all of you have a great Thanksgiving!

bw

[Playitloudforme]

With all due respect.... Steve still gets a smack from me for his choice. Ultimately, he still had a choice. What was asked of him (and they had to know) was truly unacceptable. Ethics. Simple Ethics. Steve made a choice to compromise integrity when he said OK. I would have had all the respect in the world if they'd cancelled... but the lies put out by all of them make the whole mess unacceptable. All are to blame, and equally. Ultimately, Steve still could have said NO. He didn't. I only ignored the debacle because Jeff was so frickin good. Now they've tanked Jeff and hired a lounge singer. PASS.

Enough of tapegate already. Will Steve come out with more music? Maybe. Will I buy it? Depends. I liked what he did with Tall Stories. I liked Remember Me. The rest.... meh. He'd have to pull some major miracles at this point. He still fucked up as far as I'm concerned.

[Rick]

wow, this is weird. People are actually sticking up for Augeri. What the heck happened?
'Bout time.

Hey, I know I'm a semi regular here, but all of you have a great Thanksgiving!

bw

Yeah, you've got enough posts to qualify for a regular.

I think people are sticking up for Augeri because of the way Journey treated JSS. They now see that maybe there was some villainous shit going on behind the scenes. As far as I'm concerned though, there's two sides to every argument. I'm not going to castrate anyone over the Augeri deal. I just don't know enough.

I'm not pissed at Augeri at all. I'd go see him on tour and buy his CD. Bring it on.

[Red13JoePa]

I'm not pissed at Augeri at all.

Yes, who GIVES an F?

The outrage over this band's manueverings is a little overwraught to put it mildly.

[Liz22562]

Amen, Red.....

[NealIsGod]

Amen, Red.....

Hey, where you been, Liz?

[Liz22562]

Lurking....

It's safe that way. I don't have to worry about getting slammed 'cuz I like all versions of Journey if I hide in the shadows. The conflict around here was a little too much for me.

[NealIsGod]

Lurking....

It's safe that way. I don't have to worry about getting slammed 'cuz I like all versions of Journey if I hide in the shadows. The conflict around here was a little too much for me.

Yeah, I have been posting a lot less, too. Sun's coming through the clouds now, tho.

[ArnelRox]

The outrage over this band's manueverings is a little overwraught to put it mildly.

True. They're a band running their business as they see fit. We all take it a little too personally. Does this happen w/other bands or is it just b/c Journey wrote the soundtrack of our lives?

[Liz22562]

Looks like it...thats why I thought I would stick my neck out for a little bit and take a peek!

[NealIsGod]

The outrage over this band's manueverings is a little overwraught to put it mildly.

True. They're a band running their business as they see fit. We all take it a little too personally. Does this happen w/other bands or is it just b/c Journey wrote the soundtrack of our lives?

Nah, Styx fans are pretty outspoken about their favorite band, too. All six of them.

[Red13JoePa]

The outrage over this band's manueverings is a little overwraught to put it mildly.

True. They're a band running their business as they see fit. We all take it a little too personally. Does this happen w/other bands or is it just b/c Journey wrote the soundtrack of our lives?

Hold on there, Colnel.

You were running people over on your way to grab a pitchfork and molotov cocktail when JSS got 86ed.

[NealIsGod]

The outrage over this band's manueverings is a little overwraught to put it mildly.

True. They're a band running their business as they see fit. We all take it a little too personally. Does this happen w/other bands or is it just b/c Journey wrote the soundtrack of our lives?

Hold on there, Colnel.

You were running people over on your way to grab a pitchfork and molotov cocktail when JSS got 86ed.

She said "we all". Even tho neither you nor I did, 13.

[ArnelRox]

The outrage over this band's manueverings is a little overwraught to put it mildly.

True. They're a band running their business as they see fit. We all take it a little too personally. Does this happen w/other bands or is it just b/c Journey wrote the soundtrack of our lives?

Hold on there, Colnel.

You were running people over on your way to grab a pitchfork and molotov cocktail when JSS got 86ed.

I dont deny that at all Red. Like I said, we all take it a little too personally.

[ArnelRox]

The outrage over this band's manueverings is a little overwraught to put it mildly.

True. They're a band running their business as they see fit. We all take it a little too personally. Does this happen w/other bands or is it just b/c Journey wrote the soundtrack of our lives?

Hold on there, Colnel.

You were running people over on your way to grab a pitchfork and molotov cocktail when JSS got 86ed.

She said "we all". Even tho neither you nor I did, 13.

Actually I dont think he did. I dont remember seeing him write anything damning but I could have missed it.
Now u on the other hand have always been conflicted due to ur man-crush on Mr. Schon.

[Red13JoePa]

I'm a WAY bigger Neal apologist than NealIsGod.

Fuckin Frank changed my signon to AssMuch over at his place when I disabled myself there and had to get back in.

[ArnelRox]

I'm a WAY bigger Neal apologist than NealIsGod.

Fuckin Frank changed my signon to AssMuch over at his place when I disabled myself there and had to get back in.

Actually that's funny

[Red13JoePa]

Frank being Frank.

I gave him big props on it.

[MCC620]

I'm a WAY bigger Neal apologist than NealIsGod.

Fuckin Frank changed my signon to AssMuch over at his place when I disabled myself there and had to get back in.

damn i saw that, didn't know it was you. lmao you gotta love frank.

[Journey69]

With all due respect.... Steve still gets a smack from me for his choice. Ultimately, he still had a choice. What was asked of him (and they had to know) was truly unacceptable. Ethics. Simple Ethics. Steve made a choice to compromise integrity when he said OK. I would have had all the respect in the world if they'd cancelled... but the lies put out by all of them make the whole mess unacceptable. All are to blame, and equally. Ultimately, Steve still could have said NO. He didn't. I only ignored the debacle because Jeff was so frickin good. Now they've tanked Jeff and hired a lounge singer. PASS.

Enough of tapegate already. Will Steve come out with more music? Maybe. Will I buy it? Depends. I liked what he did with Tall Stories. I liked Remember Me. The rest.... meh. He'd have to pull some major miracles at this point. He still fucked up as far as I'm concerned.

OH,ya..hmm SA should have just quit..That's rich.. Your making a million a year and you have the likes of Neal Schon and Jon Cain,who you looked up to half your life,telling you what you need to do..And this guy is living this dream and your just going to say to yourself,this isn't right,I'm gonna just quit ! LMAO! That's the most intelligent thing I've heard in a long time.. Hell,the guy was probably intimidated and scared sh*tless by the rest of the band.. He did what he had to in the situation he was in,probably hoping no one would find out.. Of course he knew what was going on..You can feel your throat when you sing and I'm pretty sure he knew he wasn't up to par and could hear how good it was coming out of the speakers..Either that or they were all briefed before the show.. Anyone not in his position at the time should just STFU ,cause you have no idea what your talking about..

[Playitloudforme]

With all due respect.... Steve still gets a smack from me for his choice. Ultimately, he still had a choice. What was asked of him (and they had to know) was truly unacceptable. Ethics. Simple Ethics. Steve made a choice to compromise integrity when he said OK. I would have had all the respect in the world if they'd cancelled... but the lies put out by all of them make the whole mess unacceptable. All are to blame, and equally. Ultimately, Steve still could have said NO. He didn't. I only ignored the debacle because Jeff was so frickin good. Now they've tanked Jeff and hired a lounge singer. PASS.

Enough of tapegate already. Will Steve come out with more music? Maybe. Will I buy it? Depends. I liked what he did with Tall Stories. I liked Remember Me. The rest.... meh. He'd have to pull some major miracles at this point. He still fucked up as far as I'm concerned.

OH,ya..hmm SA should have just quit..That's rich.. Your making a million a year and you have the likes of Neal Schon and Jon Cain,who you looked up to half your life,telling you what you need to do..And this guy is living this dream and your just going to say to yourself,this isn't right,I'm gonna just quit ! LMAO! That's the most intelligent thing I've heard in a long time.. Hell,the guy was probably intimidated and scared sh*tless by the rest of the band.. He did what he had to in the situation he was in,probably hoping no one would find out.. Of course he knew what was going on..You can feel your throat when you sing and I'm pretty sure he knew he wasn't up to par and could hear how good it was coming out of the speakers..Either that or they were all briefed before the show.. Anyone not in his position at the time should just STFU ,cause you have no idea what your talking about..

Well, now I know where your ethics are.

Yeah...he should have quit for fucks sake.

[NealIsGod]

With all due respect.... Steve still gets a smack from me for his choice. Ultimately, he still had a choice. What was asked of him (and they had to know) was truly unacceptable. Ethics. Simple Ethics. Steve made a choice to compromise integrity when he said OK. I would have had all the respect in the world if they'd cancelled... but the lies put out by all of them make the whole mess unacceptable. All are to blame, and equally. Ultimately, Steve still could have said NO. He didn't. I only ignored the debacle because Jeff was so frickin good. Now they've tanked Jeff and hired a lounge singer. PASS.

Enough of tapegate already. Will Steve come out with more music? Maybe. Will I buy it? Depends. I liked what he did with Tall Stories. I liked Remember Me. The rest.... meh. He'd have to pull some major miracles at this point. He still fucked up as far as I'm concerned.

OH,ya..hmm SA should have just quit..That's rich.. Your making a million a year and you have the likes of Neal Schon and Jon Cain,who you looked up to half your life,telling you what you need to do..And this guy is living this dream and your just going to say to yourself,this isn't right,I'm gonna just quit ! LMAO! That's the most intelligent thing I've heard in a long time.. Hell,the guy was probably intimidated and scared sh*tless by the rest of the band.. He did what he had to in the situation he was in,probably hoping no one would find out.. Of course he knew what was going on..You can feel your throat when you sing and I'm pretty sure he knew he wasn't up to par and could hear how good it was coming out of the speakers..Either that or they were all briefed before the show.. Anyone not in his position at the time should just STFU ,cause you have no idea what your talking about..

Well, now I know where your ethics are.

Yeah...he should have quit for fucks sake.

That pulpit is getting mighty crowded. Maybe he shoulda quit, but none of us know the whole story.

[chf34jmac]

It's easy to overlook Neal's shortcomings as a human being when all you want to do is give his taint the old cow tongue action.

Aint that right NIG?

[NealIsGod]

It's easy to overlook Neal's shortcomings as a human being when all you want to do is give his taint the old cow tongue action.

Aint that right NIG?

Like 13 said, he is a bigger Neal apologist than I am, fucker.

I don't give a fuck about his shortcomings as a person as long as he keeps putting out great music. Not that I have high hopes for the next singer...

[Rhiannon]

It's easy to overlook Neal's shortcomings as a human being when all you want to do is give his taint the old cow tongue action.

Aint that right NIG?

Just what I wanted to read while eating.

[Saint John]

It's easy to overlook Neal's shortcomings as a human being when all you want to do is give his taint the old cow tongue action.

Aint that right NIG?

Like 13 said, he is a bigger Neal apologist than I am, fucker.

I don't give a fuck about his shortcomings as a person as long as he keeps putting out great music. Not that I have high hopes for the next singer...

There is not ONE thing Neal has done in the last 10 years that I have a big problem with.

[Journey69]

With all due respect.... Steve still gets a smack from me for his choice. Ultimately, he still had a choice. What was asked of him (and they had to know) was truly unacceptable. Ethics. Simple Ethics. Steve made a choice to compromise integrity when he said OK. I would have had all the respect in the world if they'd cancelled... but the lies put out by all of them make the whole mess unacceptable. All are to blame, and equally. Ultimately, Steve still could have said NO. He didn't. I only ignored the debacle because Jeff was so frickin good. Now they've tanked Jeff and hired a lounge singer. PASS.

Enough of tapegate already. Will Steve come out with more music? Maybe. Will I buy it? Depends. I liked what he did with Tall Stories. I liked Remember Me. The rest.... meh. He'd have to pull some major miracles at this point. He still fucked up as far as I'm concerned.

OH,ya..hmm SA should have just quit..That's rich.. Your making a million a year and you have the likes of Neal Schon and Jon Cain,who you looked up to half your life,telling you what you need to do..And this guy is living this dream and your just going to say to yourself,this isn't right,I'm gonna just quit ! LMAO! That's the most intelligent thing I've heard in a long time.. Hell,the guy was probably intimidated and scared sh*tless by the rest of the band.. He did what he had to in the situation he was in,probably hoping no one would find out.. Of course he knew what was going on..You can feel your throat when you sing and I'm pretty sure he knew he wasn't up to par and could hear how good it was coming out of the speakers..Either that or they were all briefed before the show.. Anyone not in his position at the time should just STFU ,cause you have no idea what your talking about..

Well, now I know where your ethics are.

Yeah...he should have quit for fucks sake.

Ethics..lol.. Do everybody a favor..Get into Journey as lead singer..Then have some questionable problem and out of "your" ethics quit.. Playitloudforme.. you must live by double standards..Most people are going to do whatever it takes to survive.. Especially if they have a high paying job..

[Playitloudforme]

Ethics..lol.. Do everybody a favor..Get into Journey as lead singer..Then have some questionable problem and out of "your" ethics quit.. Playitloudforme.. you must live by double standards..Most people are going to do whatever it takes to survive.. Especially if they have a high paying job..

You know NOTHING OF ME! How DARE you tell me I live by Double Standards!!!!!!!!! I have ethics. I'd NEVER compromise them for a fucking buck. Or a million. If I had been Augeri, I would have quit in a heartbeat. Ask anyone who knows me what kind of ethics I have.

You have, however, done a fantastic job at showing what a first rate jerk you are.