Words To Live By

[Enigma869]

Great interview on 60 Minutes tonight with The Eagles. The line of the night was when Glenn Frey was asked if he and Henley were friends. His answer was "yes, we're in business together, so we might as well get along" Too bad Schon and Perry never subscribed to this theory!


John from Boston

[annie89509]

I just got through watching the feature, thanks to the earlier tip from the East Coast fans. I'm a BIG Eagles fan (isn't everyone?). Some of the remarks made really hit home that we can all relate to the Journey situation. The statement that hit a cord with me was Henley saying "we waited 28 years to make another album because we wanted it to be good" (or something like that).

And this one, by Frey "we want to differentiate ourselves from some of the other bands just touring on their GH. In order to stay relevant, you have to make new music" (again, paraphrasing here. He can be referring to Journey, as well as others).

[journeyrock]

I wonder if Schon and Co. saw it. Not that they would get a clue or anything!

[annie89509]

You're staying up late tonight, John, aren't you on the East Coast? To be fair, when comparing the Frey-Henley partnership to Schon-Perry, the two band's dynamics are really different in that The Eagles, as everyone knows, have the equally potent 1-2 punch of songwriting/lead singer. Not to mention Walsh/Schmidt contributes, also. Journey, on the other hand, writes solely for the lead singer. All their songs (at least the ones that people remember) are all vocally driven. As long as SP was in the band, I don't think Neal had any problems being 2nd fiddle. All the promotional interviews they were ever on bear that out. It would seem the only time Neal had a problem with Steve was, well, we all know the whole Journey saga (soap opera).

[journeyrock]

You're staying up late tonight, John, aren't you on the East Coast? To be fair, when comparing the Frey-Henley partnership to Schon-Perry, the two band's dynamics are really different in that The Eagles, as everyone knows, have the equally potent 1-2 punch of songwriting/lead singer. Not to mention Walsh/Schmidt contributes, also. Journey, on the other hand, writes solely for the lead singer. All their songs (at least the ones that people remember) are all vocally driven. As long as SP was in the band, I don't think Neal had any problems being 2nd fiddle. All the promotional interviews they were ever on bear that out. It would seem the only time Neal had a problem with Steve was, well, we all know the whole Journey saga (soap opera).

I'm not so sure about that Annie. I remember a story somewhere about Neal and Steve having an argument because Neal was trying to play too loud over Steve's vocals and deliberately turned up his amp or something to that effect referencing something about it wasn't all about Steve. I can't remember it totally, but it was along those lines.

[annie89509]

Oh, yes, I do remember reading about such an incident, too, JR. This might be during the ROR tour. Steve, supposedly, had the guitar amps lowered and/or his upped, saying "people come out to hear the vocals." This hurt Neal's feelings. I think, in reading the back history, we all know (now) that ROR was the beginning of the end of Journey (what we all know and love). The point is, creatively, each of them has acknowledged (over the years) that whatever friction they may have with each other is what makes their music so special. I just don't think the reason why they aren't together presently is because they can't get along.

[Enigma869]

I think the larger point was simply that ALL bands have their share of strife. Frey and Henley certainly didn't shy away from that line of questioning, when they were asked. They were smart enough to understand that they had left a WHOLE lot of money on the table, when they originally broke up, and were mature enough to put the bickering behind them. I certainly agree with the point that these are VERY different bands. As I've said many times, The Eagles are the only band I've ever seen where EVERY guy in the band can sing lead, and sing it well! Heck, Glenn Frey went down their list of hits, during the interview, and I'm pretty sure that each of them had a lead vocal, among all of those CLASSIC songs! As big of a Journey fan as I've always been, I have always and will always consider The Eagles the quintessential American rock band! Incidentally, the other great line that Frey had when asked about his relationship with Henley was..."He and I are forever connected". As the interviewer said "Henley had enormous solo success, but nothing like the success he enjoyed with The Eagles".


John from Boston

[lights1961]

Great interview on 60 Minutes tonight with The Eagles. The line of the night was when Glenn Frey was asked if he and Henley were friends. His answer was "yes, we're in business together, so we might as well get along" Too bad Schon and Perry never subscribed to this theory!


John from Boston

I have a new found respect for the Egles after last night... They are just TALENTED above and beyond everyone else,
even the BOSS or McCartney. I like the fact that they talked about not getting along, but could still make great music
together.

Rick

[Perry86fan]

Love the Eagles I am getting there new cd.

[ohsherrie]

I don't know the history of how the Frye/Henley relationship within the Eagles came about but I wonder if it's really that similar to Schon/Perry within Journey.

Journey was begun as primarily instrumental fusion band formed by HH for the purpose of showcasing Neal's guitar playing. That wasn't cutting it with the label so HH, with much encouragement from Don Ellis, put Steve Perry up front and Journey became a completely different kind of band that, whether intentionally or not, became a showcase for Steve's incredible vocals. That's where the resentment began between HH, Neal and Steve and with all the bickering and personality clashes over the years, behind the success and camaraderie the resentment was still festering.

[ebake02]

Great interview on 60 Minutes tonight with The Eagles. The line of the night was when Glenn Frey was asked if he and Henley were friends. His answer was "yes, we're in business together, so we might as well get along" Too bad Schon and Perry never subscribed to this theory!


John from Boston

I loved that line too. You could definately see that there is some tension there though by their body language.

[Enigma869]

I don't know the history of how the Frye/Henley relationship within the Eagles came about but I wonder if it's really that similar to Schon/Perry within Journey.

I don't know the entire early years history of The Eagles, but I don't think it's quite the same. Even though Henley said it was Glenn's band and Glenn came up with the name of the band, I think Henley was brought in almost immediately. Also, another HUGE difference is that unlike Schon, Glenn Frey can actually sing and sing well! Schon needed a voice to put his band on the map, while Frey actually had the voice that put The Eagles on the map. "Peaceful, Easy Feeling" was the first hit The Eagles had, and Frey was the guy singing lead.

The reality is that the Journey who we all came to know simply didn't and wouldn't have existed, had Perry not been brought into the mix. One could make the argument that the other guys in The Eagles were all talented enough, without Henley (even though I think he is the most talented of the group), to have become very successful, even without Henley's immense talent.


John from Boston