The audition process

[ohsherrie]

I own both, and they are both great in their own ways. But if I had to pick, I would have dogs.

Me too.

[ProgRocker53]

I see nobody's responded to the question of new material with Jeff, other than WoF

That I'm interested in as well.

Perhaps on this next album there will be alot of leftover material from the Schon/Soto sessions, kind of like how there were a lot of Planet US leftovers on SoulSirkUS, and in turn SoulSirkUS leftovers on Generations?

[STORY_TELLER]

I own both, and they are both great in their own ways. But if I had to pick, I would have dogs.

Yeah, well, what do you expect from someone who worships a guitar player as a deity...

Seriously though, I think most people prefer dogs. But that's probably because dogs are much more needy and constantly in your face for affection. People seem to like this. Cats are more independent, but no less loving. Just in a different way. Both my cats tuck me in at night and sleep leaning against me in some way shape or form. They're not just pets, they're family, with their own unique personalities.

So in short, fuck you.

[STORY_TELLER]

I see nobody's responded to the question of new material with Jeff, other than WoF

That I'm interested in as well.

Perhaps on this next album there will be alot of leftover material from the Schon/Soto sessions, kind of like how there were a lot of Planet US leftovers on SoulSirkUS, and in turn SoulSirkUS leftovers on Generations?

I'm interested in this too. I asked about this when the studio demo of WOF was leaked. I remember Andrew saying Winds of Freedom was the only stuff recorded.

[ProgRocker53]

It's a crying shame that "WoF" is the only recorded material done with Jeff, if that's the case. A little Frigperiment that didn't work out very well.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

It's a crying shame that "WoF" is the only recorded material done with Jeff, if that's the case. A little Frigperiment that didn't work out very well.

[jrnyman28]

By the way, cat's are much more clean than dogs. They don't require bathing like dog's do. They don't smell. An INTELLIGENT person would know this.

Unless you get bitten or scratched by a cat. Because of the litterbox and their cleaning they are one of the most infectious wounds by an animal...

[jrnyman28]

Both my cats tuck me in at night and sleep leaning against me in some way shape or form. They're not just pets, they're family, with their own unique personalities.

So in short, fuck you.

My dogs are the same way.

[jrnyman28]

Perhaps on this next album there will be alot of leftover material from the Schon/Soto sessions, kind of like how there were a lot of Planet US leftovers on SoulSirkUS, and in turn SoulSirkUS leftovers on Generations?

I wonder if the band is willing to pay Soto royalties? If things ended so bad it is unlikely Joureny would want to line JSS' pockets anymore than they already have. So I doubt they will record anything Soto has credit on. Then again, if they feel guilty about what they did (never happen) then they might record some of his stuff as their way of saying "we're assholes but not HUGE assholes".

[STORY_TELLER]

By the way, cat's are much more clean than dogs. They don't require bathing like dog's do. They don't smell. An INTELLIGENT person would know this.

Unless you get bitten or scratched by a cat. Because of the litterbox and their cleaning they are one of the most infectious wounds by an animal...

I've had cats all my life (since I'm 2). Never had nor have I ever heard of a problem. It's a very, very rare occurrence.

And I too also own a dog. Cat's are still tops.

[jrnyman28]

One of the guys I work with was stopping his cat from lunging through the screen to get to a cat outside. His cat bit him. The next day his arm had swelled to double in size and turned very red. He missed three days of work and had to return to the hospital every day for a week taking IV antibiotics to flush the infection. He told me that ANYTIME someone is bitten or scratched by a cat they need to take it VERY seriously. Until then, I had never heard of this.

[ohsherrie]

I see nobody's responded to the question of new material with Jeff, other than WoF

That I'm interested in as well.

Perhaps on this next album there will be alot of leftover material from the Schon/Soto sessions, kind of like how there were a lot of Planet US leftovers on SoulSirkUS, and in turn SoulSirkUS leftovers on Generations?

You know, that would be the ultimate insult to add to Jeff's injury, or Steve Perry's if it should happen to be stuff left over from TBF. No matter how good the stuff might be, that in itself would be enough to turn me off of them.

[ohsherrie]

One of the guys I work with was stopping his cat from lunging through the screen to get to a cat outside. His cat bit him. The next day his arm had swelled to double in size and turned very red. He missed three days of work and had to return to the hospital every day for a week taking IV antibiotics to flush the infection. He told me that ANYTIME someone is bitten or scratched by a cat they need to take it VERY seriously. Until then, I had never heard of this.

One time my cat bit me at the vets office because he hurt her and he gave me some antibiotic cleanser and told me to wash it immediately for at least 30 secs right there and then, and go to my doctor immediatly if there was any redness and/or swelling the next day.

Also, when my daughter was pregnant they told her not to go near a cat's litter box, walk barefoot in a house where there was a cat, nor walk barefoot outside at all in case there had been a cat around.

In some ways cats are easier day to day maintenance, but there health maintenance can be a lot more involved than a dog's

[STORY_TELLER]

One of the guys I work with was stopping his cat from lunging through the screen to get to a cat outside. His cat bit him. The next day his arm had swelled to double in size and turned very red. He missed three days of work and had to return to the hospital every day for a week taking IV antibiotics to flush the infection. He told me that ANYTIME someone is bitten or scratched by a cat they need to take it VERY seriously. Until then, I had never heard of this.

One time my cat bit me at the vets office because he hurt her and he gave me some antibiotic cleanser and told me to wash it immediately for at least 30 secs right there and then, and go to my doctor immediatly if there was any redness and/or swelling the next day.

Also, when my daughter was pregnant they told her not to go near a cat's litter box, walk barefoot in a house where there was a cat, nor walk barefoot outside at all in case there had been a cat around.

In some ways cats are easier day to day maintenance, but there health maintenance can be a lot more involved than a dog's

All these statements and stories are true. Cat's mouths can contain harmful bacteria and I've also heard the thing about pregnant woman and litter boxes. Even still, Cats are the superior pet so->

[StoneCold]

There are some evidence out there that Neal DID actually find Arnel on youtube.I find it hard to belive that its a legit evidence

Journey may be retro but can't Neal afford anything newer than an Apple II?

[Journey69]

I don't buy for ONE fucking second that Neal Schon found Arnel on youtube. I find it highly suspicious that Irving Azoff used to head MCA and that is the very same label Arnel was signed to before Journey bought out the remainder of his contract. They've had Arnel on their radar for quite some time and used the youtube story to be as hurtful as possible toward Jeff. Why they choose to act this way is neither known nor any of my business.

Wow.. good info,never heard that.. Is it possible Jeff might have hurt one of the band member,maybe not even knowing he did?

[Journey69]

As a cat lover I find this thread offensive ! Cats rule and dogs are stupid and poop everywhere !

Come on...dogs earn there keep!!!Cats.. well are just cats...

Fuck you. I love cats. They're the perfect pet. They simply require an INTELLIGENT owner.

Cats suck. When a cat jumps up on your kitchen counter (which they do as soon as you leave the house) and sits down, you know what part of it's body kisses your countertop. It's asshole. Little cat asshole kisses all over your cutting board.

I'll pass on the cat's.

OMG ..that is soo right.. I hate that crap.. Not to mention cat hair in your froot loops and everything else.. I'll keep my gorgeous Boxer dog,Sampson!

[Journey69]

As a cat lover I find this thread offensive ! Cats rule and dogs are stupid and poop everywhere !

Come on...dogs earn there keep!!!Cats.. well are just cats...

Fuck you. I love cats. They're the perfect pet. They simply require an INTELLIGENT owner.

Cats suck. When a cat jumps up on your kitchen counter (which they do as soon as you leave the house) and sits down, you know what part of it's body kisses your countertop. It's asshole. Little cat asshole kisses all over your cutting board.

I'll pass on the cat's.

Like I said, they require an INTELLIGENT owner.

Actually pretty fucking stupid to have a cat and let them ass kiss your counter or cutting board. Enjoy your next salad (or whatever you cut on the cutting board) with microscopic bits of shit in your food.

Right. Because it's not like a dog will lick his balls, give himself a rim job, toss his own SALAD, then LICK HIS OWNER'S FACE or anything.



By the way, cat's are much more clean than dogs. They don't require bathing like dog's do. They don't smell. An INTELLIGENT person would know this.

An Intelligent owner would also know that after the dog licked his balls,gave himself a rim job and tossed his own salad that a dogs mouth is still cleaner than a human's.. BOX! But your response was funny as hell,I was actually laughing out loud on that one!! Even a comedian can be an idiot! Richard Jeni,John Belushi,Chris Farley.. ect... I think you get it..

[Journey69]

there really wasn't an audition process, per se. some within the band were not happy with the new direction they were heading in with new material with jeff. jonathan's daughter madison saw me performing on youtube. she showed jonathan, he tried selling management and schon on me without any luck. i was called and told that jc wanted to "explore all their options" before making a full commitment to a new direction with jeff and that he wouldn't be comfortable moving forward if he didn't at least have the chance to see me. he convinced schon to fly to charlotte later that week, and schon was sold as well.

over the next few weeks, they nailed down a date to bring me to california to perform for management and see what they thought. in the interim time, jeff was terminated. at that point, my conversations with neal and jc turned to "what are you going to do now, what if this doesn't work out?" i was told not to worry about it, management would go along with them and the band (neal and jon) would be strong enough to support the band writing new material, etc.

so i went out there, they offered me the job, and without getting into details, apparently i didn't mesh with schon's personality. next thing i knew, there was no deal, and schon was scouring MR where he saw arnel mentioned. they flew him in from the phillipines and he knocked everyone dead, apparently with less baggage than i would have brought to the table. so he's the new singer.

there, hope that clears things up!

Great info Jeremey,I didn't know that.. I thought you didn't want the gig because of family? That's what I heard,or they offered you the job and you didn't take it.. Ok,I'm confused..

[Jeremey]

Great info Jeremey,I didn't know that.. I thought you didn't want the gig because of family? That's what I heard,or they offered you the job and you didn't take it.. Ok,I'm confused..

That's the whole "without getting into details" part of my post. it's all on the blog.

[Andrew]

there really wasn't an audition process, per se. some within the band were not happy with the new direction they were heading in with new material with jeff. jonathan's daughter madison saw me performing on youtube. she showed jonathan, he tried selling management and schon on me without any luck. i was called and told that jc wanted to "explore all their options" before making a full commitment to a new direction with jeff and that he wouldn't be comfortable moving forward if he didn't at least have the chance to see me. he convinced schon to fly to charlotte later that week, and schon was sold as well.

over the next few weeks, they nailed down a date to bring me to california to perform for management and see what they thought. in the interim time, jeff was terminated. at that point, my conversations with neal and jc turned to "what are you going to do now, what if this doesn't work out?" i was told not to worry about it, management would go along with them and the band (neal and jon) would be strong enough to support the band writing new material, etc.

so i went out there, they offered me the job, and without getting into details, apparently i didn't mesh with schon's personality. next thing i knew, there was no deal, and schon was scouring MR where he saw arnel mentioned. they flew him in from the phillipines and he knocked everyone dead, apparently with less baggage than i would have brought to the table. so he's the new singer.

there, hope that clears things up!

I concur with all points.

[T-Bone]

I thought he was scouring YouTube?

[Andrew]

I only respond because you decided to bring this up again. Like it or not, as long as you keep bringing up the same old story, I will step in! (Whatever happend to that early new years resolution???).....
If we go by the time frame youre describing above..... Jeff was terminated end of May, and he found out begining of June.
And if they flew you over few weeks after the 1st approach, this means (going back few weeks from when they flew you in) that you did indeed have an idea at the May 11th party at Dave's house, when you jammed with Jeff.

Why do you have such a hard on for Jeremey? I enjoy the info he brings to the table here - he was closer to Journey than anyone here will ever be. You've made your point countless times. Please let it go - it's getting tired.

Sounds like YOURE the one with the hardon for him not me.
For the record , I did let it go , but I will chime in, ANYTIME its brought back up again.
If youre getting tired of me, then move the fuck on, no one forced you to read my posts.

Can we both let it go?

As for the pictures posted into this thread - fuck off the lot of you. Get a life already. I've had enough of this board for one day.

[Behshad]

I concur with all points.

I do too.I never said I disagree with what was said in that post.

Can we both let it go?

Yes boss.
I thought we were done with this a week ago, but seems like it keeps coming up to the surface again. And with all due respect, anytime it comes up, I will probably add my thoughts to it.

[NealIsGod]

I concur with all points.

I do too.I never said I disagree with what was said in that post.

Can we both let it go?

Yes boss.
I thought we were done with this a week ago, but seems like it keeps coming up to the surface again. And with all due respect, anytime it comes up, I will probably add my thoughts to it.

C'mon, man. Focus your hate on someone who deserves it.

[Behshad]

I concur with all points.

I do too.I never said I disagree with what was said in that post.

Can we both let it go?

Yes boss.
I thought we were done with this a week ago, but seems like it keeps coming up to the surface again. And with all due respect, anytime it comes up, I will probably add my thoughts to it.

C'mon, man. Focus your hate on someone who deserves it.

I am not focusing hate on anyone here, bro.
I dont mind people disagreeing with eachother here, but one thing I dont tolerate is liars.

[Red13JoePa]

fuck off the lot of you. Get a life already. I've had enough of this board for one day.

Nobody does this better.

[Jeremey]

I concur with all points.

I do too.I never said I disagree with what was said in that post.

Can we both let it go?

Yes boss.
I thought we were done with this a week ago, but seems like it keeps coming up to the surface again. And with all due respect, anytime it comes up, I will probably add my thoughts to it.

C'mon, man. Focus your hate on someone who deserves it.

I am not focusing hate on anyone here, bro.
I dont mind people disagreeing with eachother here, but one thing I dont tolerate is liars.

Dude, it's time for you to back the fuck off.

Plenty of opportunities for you to post your vitriol in the future, as you sure as shit arent going to run me off this board, but I'm done with the insults and name calling. Get some manners.

[Journey69]

I concur with all points.

I do too.I never said I disagree with what was said in that post.

Can we both let it go?

Yes boss.
I thought we were done with this a week ago, but seems like it keeps coming up to the surface again. And with all due respect, anytime it comes up, I will probably add my thoughts to it.

C'mon, man. Focus your hate on someone who deserves it.

I am not focusing hate on anyone here, bro.
I dont mind people disagreeing with eachother here, but one thing I dont tolerate is liars.

Dude, it's time for you to back the fuck off.

Plenty of opportunities for you to post your vitriol in the future, as you sure as shit arent going to run me off this board, but I'm done with the insults and name calling. Get some manners.

Well at any rate,I appreciate you man.. There are childish haters on this board..Guys,that for some reason have to get to the truth no matter what.. They will insult you and rile you up just to try and force it out of you.. Bush league if you ask me.. If someone is going to hate on Jeremey,PM the guy ,don't make it public..I'm not trying to defend him,I'm defending myself and all this Susie bs too.. Guys,you gotta let that shit go..

[Jeremey]

Well at any rate,I appreciate you man.. There are childish haters on this board..Guys,that for some reason have to get to the truth no matter what.. They will insult you and rile you up just to try and force it out of you.. Bush league if you ask me.. If someone is going to hate on Jeremey,PM the guy ,don't make it public..I'm not trying to defend him,I'm defending myself and all this Susie bs too.. Guys,you gotta let that shit go..

The truth has been out there. That's enough already.