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Postby texafana » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:28 pm

Now THIS is how jurassic rockers come back and make new material! Don't try to push the pipes as if you were 20 years younger, sing something in your range and build around it. This track kicks ASS! Love me some Dokken once in a while. Very nice, thanks for posting!
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:34 pm

texafana wrote:Now THIS is how jurassic rockers come back and make new material! Don't try to push the pipes as if you were 20 years younger, sing something in your range and build around it. This track kicks ASS! Love me some Dokken once in a while. Very nice, thanks for posting!


Hey, texafana -- don't miss the Christmas Dokken song I posted here -- I think you'll dig it: http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=30901
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:36 pm

texafana wrote:Now THIS is how jurassic rockers !


:lol: :lol: oh .. funny... :wink:
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Re: OT: NEW DOKKEN TRACK!!!

Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:43 am

Rip Rokken wrote:Could this be one of the tracks JSS sings backups on?


Turns out it is so, as answered on the JSS board...

JSS wrote:I be there, definitely blended me in with Don's background vocals that make it hard to hear my tone but I do remember that as being one I sang on...
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Postby johnny15 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:10 am

sorry if this has been answered or discusssed before, how come that song sounds like lynch? is levin a lynch clone?
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:14 am

Greg wrote:Shadowlife is the one I bought. No matter how hard I tried to let the album grow on me, it just never did. There was only one song I really liked off of that album. Hard To Believe. Probably wasn't the best song on the album. Maybe I should give is another spin again.


I would venture to say that, without a "shadow" of a doubt, "Shadowlife" is the worst album in my collection. I don't think I've listened to it again since the first time I played it.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:50 pm

johnny15 wrote:sorry if this has been answered or discusssed before, how come that song sounds like lynch? is levin a lynch clone?


Levin is certainly the most Lynch-like of them all since Lynch left. That's probably why the fans are so down with him. He can probably also get along with Don without choking him. Did you know Jon Levin is also an attorney with a law practice? That might come in handy...

conversationpc wrote:I would venture to say that, without a "shadow" of a doubt, "Shadowlife" is the worst album in my collection. I don't think I've listened to it again since the first time I played it.


I never could get into it, but I really liked a few of the songs. At least "Puppet On A String" and the acoustic ballad "Bitter Regret".
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Postby johnny15 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:16 am

conversationpc wrote:
Greg wrote:Shadowlife is the one I bought. No matter how hard I tried to let the album grow on me, it just never did. There was only one song I really liked off of that album. Hard To Believe. Probably wasn't the best song on the album. Maybe I should give is another spin again.


I would venture to say that, without a "shadow" of a doubt, "Shadowlife" is the worst album in my collection. I don't think I've listened to it again since the first time I played it.


i don't like shadowlife but i do like the one that had the red cover.

so that's not lynch on oasis? i could have swore it was lynch. then i was doing some surfing and i couldn't find any indication that it was. it kind of turns me off. i would prefer to have reb beach in there who has his own style than someone trying to imitate the master george. i might as well listen to the older stuff. it's cheaper than buying the newer imitation brand.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:25 pm

johnny15 wrote:so that's not lynch on oasis? i could have swore it was lynch. then i was doing some surfing and i couldn't find any indication that it was. it kind of turns me off. i would prefer to have reb beach in there who has his own style than someone trying to imitate the master george. i might as well listen to the older stuff. it's cheaper than buying the newer imitation brand.


Nope... Not Lynch. Jon Levin! He's not a total Lynch clone, but he does Lynch quite well. By the way, they posted the FINAL mix of the song recently. If you are interested, check it out again:

"OASIS (FINAL Mix)"

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Re: OT: NEW DOKKEN TRACK!!!

Postby Panther » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:53 pm

[quote="Rip Rokken"]Just found out this was posted! SWEET! The riff is very old-school Dokken (and almost a little RATT-ish), with a great hook:

"OASIS (Rough Mix)"

http://www.myspace.com/dokken1

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I finally had the boy available to sit and listen to this track with me. His exact words, "Holy shit that's good stuff." :lol: Then, in waltzed the five-year-old and her words were, "That's not Journey! But I love that classic sound." :shock:
Me, personally, they've finally moved back into themselves with slight twists here and there. Both kids insisted on listening to the rest up there and then we all agreed that this will be on the "purchase" list. Thanks!
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Re: OT: NEW DOKKEN TRACK!!!

Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:17 pm

Panther wrote:I finally had the boy available to sit and listen to this track with me. His exact words, "Holy shit that's good stuff." :lol: Then, in waltzed the five-year-old and her words were, "That's not Journey! But I love that classic sound." :shock:
Me, personally, they've finally moved back into themselves with slight twists here and there. Both kids insisted on listening to the rest up there and then we all agreed that this will be on the "purchase" list. Thanks!


Dude, that is too cool! Amazing words to come out of a 5-year-old... Your kids are getting a proper musical education early, I see! Mine, too. :P

I'm going to listen to it again right now...
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Postby weatherman90 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:18 pm

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weatherman90 wrote:Rokken - is that Don Dokken in your display, or am I not seeing correctly? :shock:


'Tis Donald Maynard Dokken ye see, aye! (That is actually his full name). Credit goes to FinalFight, DDS for the corrective dental makeover! :P


Very nice!!

My aunt has a story about how she met Don back during the Back for the Attack tour in 87. Apparently she caught him backstage and talked with him for a while, and when she walked away she realized that she had some embarrassing food on her front teeth!

I saw Dokken for the first time earlier this year (I'm only 17) - they played way too loud for the small venue and I could barely make out the songs, but it was fun to see Don come out dressed fully in leather and then have a couple of cigarettes by the amplifiers during the guitar solos!

Hopefully I can catch Dokken again sometime in the near future. I hope they tour for many years to come!
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:42 pm

weatherman90 wrote:My aunt has a story about how she met Don back during the Back for the Attack tour in 87. Apparently she caught him backstage and talked with him for a while, and when she walked away she realized that she had some embarrassing food on her front teeth!

I saw Dokken for the first time earlier this year (I'm only 17) - they played way too loud for the small venue and I could barely make out the songs, but it was fun to see Don come out dressed fully in leather and then have a couple of cigarettes by the amplifiers during the guitar solos!

Hopefully I can catch Dokken again sometime in the near future. I hope they tour for many years to come!


Man, all these 2nd generation fans are the coolest... Just when you think your music is dying a slow death, new fans pop up to carry on the torch! That's awesome!

One of the reasons I love Don so much is because besides being an awesome songwriter with a great, distinctive voice and style, he's also a drama queen and a cartoon character, but he's got the goods to back it up. There are some hilarious interviews online where he talks about the fistfights he's gotten into with George Lynch, or how George walked up behind him once and started choking him... :P He's just a trip.

I finally met him on the "Shadowlife" tour, and he was very cool to me. Too long a story to bog the post down with, but basically, he was on his way out but stopped to give me some time and we had a great conversation. He was really pleased that I had his solo album with me, and signed a great note on the inside. I've been kicking myself for getting rid of that disc ever since.... Been finally rebuilding my collection of autographed CD's after ditching all of them about 6.5 years ago. A really stupid thing to do...

Also got to talk to him on the radio once, and my line got disconnected right in the middle of the talk. I called back in and they put me right back on with him.
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Postby weatherman90 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:16 pm

Very cool stories! His solo album was awesome - it seems to me that he was at his vocal peak during its recording.

I'm just starting to read these interviews now...very interesting stuff.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:22 pm

weatherman90 wrote:Very cool stories! His solo album was awesome - it seems to me that he was at his vocal peak during its recording.

I'm just starting to read these interviews now...very interesting stuff.


Don's solo album "Up From The Ashes" is one of my favorite rock albums of all time. Killer rockers and ballads... I need to get another copy. That was Europe's guitarist, John Norum, on that disc, and we talked about him that night. John of course came back to record Dokken's "Long Way Home". If you like that drop D tuning sound, check out the last 2 Europe discs as well.

Oh yeah, see if you can dig up Don's 20 Questions interview on Metal Sludge. It's not listed on their site -- you might have to Google it. Try searching with the word "choke" or "choking" in there as well to get the right one. :P
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Postby AR » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:27 pm

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weatherman90 wrote:Very cool stories! His solo album was awesome - it seems to me that he was at his vocal peak during its recording.

I'm just starting to read these interviews now...very interesting stuff.


Don's solo album "Up From The Ashes" is one of my favorite rock albums of all time. Killer rockers and ballads... I need to get another copy. That was Europe's guitarist, John Norum, on that disc, and we talked about him that night. John of course came back to record Dokken's "Long Way Home". If you like that drop D tuning sound, check out the last 2 Europe discs as well.

Oh yeah, see if you can dig up Don's 20 Questions interview on Metal Sludge. It's not listed on their site -- you might have to Google it. Try searching with the word "choke" or "choking" in there as well to get the right one. :P


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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:33 pm

AR wrote:Living a Lie = great song!


Man, it's been so long -- I need to order a new copy so I can catch back up with it...
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Postby AR » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:35 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
AR wrote:Living a Lie = great song!


Man, it's been so long -- I need to order a new copy so I can catch back up with it...


I could upload it, but generally I only do that with bootleg stuff.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:39 pm

AR wrote:I could upload it, but generally I only do that with bootleg stuff.


No worries, bro -- Just grabbed a cheap sealed copy off eBay. I'll be jamming on it by next week. :P Realllllllly wish I had my signed copy back. He wrote me a note in big letters that covered the whole folded out inside of the booklet.
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Postby weatherman90 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:07 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:Very cool stories! His solo album was awesome - it seems to me that he was at his vocal peak during its recording.

I'm just starting to read these interviews now...very interesting stuff.


Don's solo album "Up From The Ashes" is one of my favorite rock albums of all time. Killer rockers and ballads... I need to get another copy. That was Europe's guitarist, John Norum, on that disc, and we talked about him that night. John of course came back to record Dokken's "Long Way Home". If you like that drop D tuning sound, check out the last 2 Europe discs as well.

Oh yeah, see if you can dig up Don's 20 Questions interview on Metal Sludge. It's not listed on their site -- you might have to Google it. Try searching with the word "choke" or "choking" in there as well to get the right one. :P


I read the 20 questions - had no idea Don got transplants that early on! Metal Dreams also has a great interview with him, don't know if you've read that one.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:16 pm

weatherman90 wrote:I read the 20 questions - had no idea Don got transplants that early on! Metal Dreams also has a great interview with him, don't know if you've read that one.


Send me a link! :P
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Postby Voyager » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:29 pm

George Lynch kicks some major ass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWntxpcq9FI

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Postby weatherman90 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:57 am

Here's a link to the interview I talked about....interesting stuff!

http://www.metaldreams.net/dokken-interview.htm

Sorta makes you want to shake George Lynch and tell him to snap out of it! :lol:
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Re: OT: NEW DOKKEN TRACK!!!

Postby Panther » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:29 am

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Panther wrote:I finally had the boy available to sit and listen to this track with me. His exact words, "Holy shit that's good stuff." :lol: Then, in waltzed the five-year-old and her words were, "That's not Journey! But I love that classic sound." :shock:
Me, personally, they've finally moved back into themselves with slight twists here and there. Both kids insisted on listening to the rest up there and then we all agreed that this will be on the "purchase" list. Thanks!


Dude, that is too cool! Amazing words to come out of a 5-year-old... Your kids are getting a proper musical education early, I see! Mine, too. :P

I'm going to listen to it again right now...


Yes... the mini is five going on 27. @@ All three are well versed in proper music, though the eldest has opted for something more modern. :::shrug::: The two others, if it isn't circa pre-99 or so, they don't want to have a thing to do with it. As a matter of fact, the mini is trying for all it is worth to convince me to take her with us to see Skynyrd and then the Doobie Bros when they roll through town. lol She just knows that at some time in the future she WILL see Journey AND Perry perform. Not sure where I went wrong with that one. lol
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:45 pm

weatherman90 wrote:Here's a link to the interview I talked about....interesting stuff!

http://www.metaldreams.net/dokken-interview.htm

Sorta makes you want to shake George Lynch and tell him to snap out of it! :lol:


Wow! Long interview -- took me a few days to finish it. Probably the most open I've read in regards to the band's problems. Very interesting stuff, if you accept Don's take on it... haha! But I find much of what he says about George believable.

He talked about George shooting 'roids during the "Shadowlife" tour, and how huge he was. I can confirm that! I got to meet George after the show, and it was interesting... Here's the whole story:

I'd already gotten to hang with Jeff and Wild Mick. It was my 2nd time to meet Jeff, as I'd also run into him touring with Dio. I hadn't seen Don yet, and Mick and I were chugging a drink at the bar, so I asked him where Don was. He said, "Oh, he's backstage -- just go on back." I mentioned I didn't think they'd let me back there, so Mick actually took off his own backstage pass and told me to go meet Don -- just to remember to get him his pass back. That was the coolest!!! So Don was in the hospitality room with some chick he'd met (I don't know if he'd met her that night, or if she was touring with him). He was just on his way out when I stopped to say hi, and he stopped and we talked for probably 10-15 minutes. He gave me all the time in the world, signed all my stuff, and really liked the fact that I had "Up From The Ashes" -- was telling me all sorts of behind the scenes info on that record.

So last of course was George... He was pretty elusive, and had made a beeline for the exit after the show. Just a few of us went out to find him at the bus, and caught him on his way in. He wasn't smiling, but offered to come back out and sign our stuff if we'd give him a minute to see his kids (they were apparently touring with him). I remember as soon as he opened the door, I heard, "DADDDDY!!!", and they assaulted him with pillows. I heard him laughing, and he was inside for about 10 minutes, then came out to shake our hands and sign our stuff. Dude wasn't any taller than me, but he was HUGE from the 'roids. Looked like a pro wrestler, and he didn't smile the entire time. Right after we were done, he asked a driver if they could go out for some food, and he took off separately from the rest.

So that's my Dokken story...

Anyway, that interview was over the top, and a great read. Some of it is hard to believe, but who knows? Like the part where George tells Don that he intended "Shadowlife" to be the end of Dokken, and that his goal was to ensure they had no more fans when he returned to Lynch Mob. That's pretty harsh! Hard to believe they would have tolerated that crap for so many years. A great read, though!
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Postby Arkansas » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:16 am

Just now finally listened to this track. I do like it. And I agree with the 'jurassic rockers' post about singing what you can - make it sound as good as possible without belting - and build the song around it. Of course DD has always kinda done that, not just this song. Or maybe his voice has always had a laid back vibe to it without losing power...at least to me.

Some times a cover sounds better than the original. Bob Seger doing CCR instantly comes to mind. There are several others. Dokken does it on the Dysfunctional album - ELP's 'From the Beginning'. Never really liked that song much until Dokken covered it. Funny now, whenever the local classic station plays ELP, I think of the Dokken version.


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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:25 am

Arkansas wrote:Some times a cover sounds better than the original. Bob Seger doing CCR instantly comes to mind. There are several others. Dokken does it on the Dysfunctional album - ELP's 'From the Beginning'. Never really liked that song much until Dokken covered it. Funny now, whenever the local classic station plays ELP, I think of the Dokken version.


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You know, you are right... I forgot that cover was on that album, as I haven't listened to it in a while. It is a great version. Another cover I personally prefer over the original is Great White's version of "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You". I actually learned to sing that song from listening to the G.W. version.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:27 am

This just in................


Dokken sucks.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:30 am

Rockindeano wrote:This just in................


Dokken sucks.


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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:56 am

Dude, you cannot be serious? You live in Arkansas and somehow someway you were guided toward....Dokken? Dude, they are shit. I mean fuck, you have Willie, Waylon and David Allen Coe down there, Alabama the band, and even Jerry Reed, and you gravitate to...Dokken? Goddammit, if I ever see Don fuckin Dokken, I am going to beat his ass.

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