OT: Smokey and the Bandit Apprciation thread

[wildone]

My old man liked that movie so much, we went out and bought the T/A 6.6. Ours was white, but did have that gold eagle on the hood. It did move tho. Man that thing had power.

Hey, Deano
Your Ole Man was cool!

I'm trying to remember
but White w blue stripe was from 69 to 72 w small eagle on the nose
Then came the colors & the big eagle.

73 Had the SD Super Duty
very few of them & $$$$

6.6 would be a 455
that would be 71 up as the
RA 3 T/A 70 was a 400 ci 6 L hi compression engine
after that the compression was low

I did love my Trans AM 19 years before we parted

Now I have a 5L Benz

hate to be a ball buster but thats 69 1/2 there not really knowns as a 69 t/a pontiac and benz's my buddy has a 68 GTOa 67GTO and next to them sits a 1957 190sl great looking little car! and he's the 2nd owner of the 67 and 57 lucky finds!!

[Rockindeano]

6.6 was the 403 motor.

[Shadowsong]

6.6 was the 403 motor.

Oooops
Mine was a 400 RA 3 hi compression #12 D port heads
After 70 they were 455

So I guess the 6.6 was the more modern engines

[Shadowsong]

My old man liked that movie so much, we went out and bought the T/A 6.6. Ours was white, but did have that gold eagle on the hood. It did move tho. Man that thing had power.

Hey, Deano
Your Ole Man was cool!

I'm trying to remember
but White w blue stripe was from 69 to 72 w small eagle on the nose
Then came the colors & the big eagle.

73 Had the SD Super Duty
very few of them & $$$$

6.6 would be a 455
that would be 71 up as the
RA 3 T/A 70 was a 400 ci 6 L hi compression engine
after that the compression was low

I did love my Trans AM 19 years before we parted

Now I have a 5L Benz

hate to be a ball buster but thats 69 1/2 there not really knowns as a 69 t/a pontiac and benz's my buddy has a 68 GTOa 67GTO and next to them sits a 1957 190sl great looking little car! and he's the 2nd owner of the 67 and 57 lucky finds!!

70 TA was called a 70 1/2 as it was a late production.
mine I believe had a E code on the back engine which would make it I think May 70

My brother had a 67 GTO
but it didn't have the original engine
Still was basically a straight line drag machine
sort of a fast tuna can on wheels

[Rockindeano]

Gimme a Diablo burger and a Dr Pepper, make it fast I'm in a Goddamned hurry!

[larryfromnextdoor]

Gimme a Diablo burger and a Dr Pepper, make it fast I'm in a Goddamned hurry!

hahahahhahaahahahhahahaahha.. .. ok.. THAT was funny.. this is such a good night.. great night!!

[Rockindeano]

After kicking those three rednecks in the ass on the Georgia Highway, Justice says,

" Now don't go home, and don't go to eat......and don't play with yourself. It wouldn't look good on the highway. Oh, you can think about it, but just don't do it."

Peels out in search of the Bandit.

[Rick]

Bank robbin' is baby shit alongside what this dude is doin'. Almost killed 20 law officers. Drivin' through peoples backyards, knockin' down mailboxes. He's got a broad in the car, took her across the state line. That's a man act. I don't think he's got her permission, and that's kidnappin'. How's that for hijinks?

[Journey69]

Yeah that 4.9 was a heap of shit. I had passenger trains that could blow that thing away.

The 6.6 had some serious get up and go.


Another scene:

Snowman is at the go go pump gettin some chow for he and Fred, while these drunk bikers beat the shit out of him in the "Joint." Cledus makes it outside to his rig, and Fred magically appears...

He gets up in his cab, fires up the Kenworth looks at the parked bikes and smiles. Then he proceeds to run over all those Hogs and Hondas, and that three toothed long haired pond scum fucker smiles and says, "Far out."

Depends on the 6.6 ..they had 2 different ones.. The 403 big block 6.6 and the 400 small block 6.6 .The 403 was auto only,the 400 was Manual only.. The Manual 400 was faster.. I had 2 friends that had one of each.. The big block had tons of torque but auto's have highway gears..The manual had 411's ,no top end tho.. My 99 TA will spank them both and its not even close!

My 6.6 olds had an aftermarket gear kit that let it both smoke tires and hit high end speeds of 160. I bought it from the guy who'd customized it. I scared the hell out of a couple friends when I took it top end. "Must stay in the middle lane!"

Is your 99 stock and what does it top out at?

Sorry dude..your Old is not hitting 160.. What happened is you changed the gears from 3:23's to about 3:73's and your speedo was about 20-30 miles an hour off..Trust me ,I've done it myself.. My Trans am has 2:73 highway gears..Grrr.. I might put 3:42's in..not sure yet..Its still faster than hell..Mine would do 160..Yours isn't aero dynamic enough to do it..The wind would hit it like a brick wall..My 86 corvette convertible Indianapolis 500 edition pace car hit 156.. Still had more..My brothers 2000 Vette with the 6 spd should do 180.. Horsepower means nothing if you don't have the aero dynamics to back it up..

[Blueskies]

Frog says...." I want to jump something else! I want to jump something else, i want to jump a car, a house, anything! "
Bandit says....." Well jump me! "

[Rockindeano]

Bank robbin' is baby shit alongside what this dude is doin'. Almost killed 20 law officers. Drivin' through peoples backyards, knockin' down mailboxes. He's got a broad in the car, took her across the state line. That's a man act. I don't think he's got her permission, and that's kidnappin'. How's that for hijinks?

Yeah, as food is flying out of his mouth, he is telling this to none other than the Bandit! Stupid ass.

[Rockindeano]

Sorry dude..your Old is not hitting 160.. What happened is you changed the gears from 3:23's to about 3:73's and your speedo was about 20-30 miles an hour off..Trust me ,I've done it myself.. My Trans am has 2:73 highway gears..Grrr.. I might put 3:42's in..not sure yet..Its still faster than hell..Mine would do 160..Yours isn't aero dynamic enough to do it..The wind would hit it like a brick wall..My 86 corvette convertible Indianapolis 500 edition pace car hit 156.. Still had more..My brothers 2000 Vette with the 6 spd should do 180.. Horsepower means nothing if you don't have the aero dynamics to back it up..

Very good post, however, horsepower means everything. I once had a train with 32,000 HP in 8 locomotives and we pulled 196 cars at 55 mph, on a .5% grade. Trust me dude, HP is everything! But you're right too, because on another trip, I had 24,000 HP and 60 cars of grain and went from 50mph to barely 30 when the fucking wind in the Columbia river gorge hit us. I had her full out, just to do 30!

[Journey69]

My old man liked that movie so much, we went out and bought the T/A 6.6. Ours was white, but did have that gold eagle on the hood. It did move tho. Man that thing had power.

Hey, Deano
Your Ole Man was cool!

I'm trying to remember
but White w blue stripe was from 69 to 72 w small eagle on the nose
Then came the colors & the big eagle.

73 Had the SD Super Duty
very few of them & $$$$

6.6 would be a 455
that would be 71 up as the
RA 3 T/A 70 was a 400 ci 6 L hi compression engine
after that the compression was low

I did love my Trans AM 19 years before we parted

Now I have a 5L Benz

Wrong..6.6 is not a 455.. 6.6 was a 400 small block or a 403 big block..

[Journey69]

Sorry dude..your Old is not hitting 160.. What happened is you changed the gears from 3:23's to about 3:73's and your speedo was about 20-30 miles an hour off..Trust me ,I've done it myself.. My Trans am has 2:73 highway gears..Grrr.. I might put 3:42's in..not sure yet..Its still faster than hell..Mine would do 160..Yours isn't aero dynamic enough to do it..The wind would hit it like a brick wall..My 86 corvette convertible Indianapolis 500 edition pace car hit 156.. Still had more..My brothers 2000 Vette with the 6 spd should do 180.. Horsepower means nothing if you don't have the aero dynamics to back it up..

Very good post, however, horsepower means everything. I once had a train with 32,000 HP in 8 locomotives and we pulled 196 cars at 55 mph, on a .5% grade. Trust me dude, HP is everything! But you're right too, because on another trip, I had 24,000 HP and 60 cars of grain and went from 50mph to barely 30 when the fucking wind in the Columbia river gorge hit us. I had her full out, just to do 30!

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

[Journey69]

Also,your train has alot of horsepower,but its the amount of torque the train has to move it.. It isn't very fast,but can pull tons of weight.. Same thing with big blocks in cars.. the 403 6.6 is all about torque and the 403 is alot heavier than the 6.6 400 small block.. The small block TA's with kick the big blocks ass.. But on the hiway it would be a different story.. The BB will have hi way gears,while the SB will have performance gears because its a stick..

[larryfromnextdoor]

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

my '82 trans am had 2:73 in the rear.... all front end... half way through the quarter i fell way behind.. i had no end power..

[Rockindeano]

Also,your train has alot of horsepower,but its the amount of torque the train has to move it.. It isn't very fast,but can pull tons of weight.. Same thing with big blocks in cars.. the 403 6.6 is all about torque and the 403 is alot heavier than the 6.6 400 small block.. The small block TA's with kick the big blocks ass.. But on the hiway it would be a different story.. The BB will have hi way gears,while the SB will have performance gears because its a stick..

You are right on it...Gearing is a big thing. We are geared at 67:13 for some freight units and of course the passenger units are higher geared.

[Journey69]

Also,your train has alot of horsepower,but its the amount of torque the train has to move it.. It isn't very fast,but can pull tons of weight.. Same thing with big blocks in cars.. the 403 6.6 is all about torque and the 403 is alot heavier than the 6.6 400 small block.. The small block TA's with kick the big blocks ass.. But on the hiway it would be a different story.. The BB will have hi way gears,while the SB will have performance gears because its a stick..

You are right on it...Gearing is a big thing. We are geared at 67:13 for some freight units and of course the passenger units are higher geared.

Correct..but,I know nothing about trains..

[Journey69]

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

my '82 trans am had 2:73 in the rear.... all front end... half way through the quarter i fell way behind.. i had no end power..

Was it a stick or auto.. it probably had 3:73's.. 2'73's are for top end.. With 3:73's you would have been quick off the line,no top end.. Did it have crossfire fuel injection..?

[larryfromnextdoor]

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

my '82 trans am had 2:73 in the rear.... all front end... half way through the quarter i fell way behind.. i had no end power..

Was it a stick or auto.. it probably had 3:73's.. 2'73's are for top end.. With 3:73's you would have been quick off the line,no top end.. Did it have crossfire fuel injection..?

ugh!!! your right.. 373 stock.. automatic.. it had a throttle body.. looked like 2 windex bottles squeezing into the motor... 2 air filters.. ran great.. but not tons of power.. the trans am High Output would smoke me..

[Journey69]

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

my '82 trans am had 2:73 in the rear.... all front end... half way through the quarter i fell way behind.. i had no end power..

Was it a stick or auto.. it probably had 3:73's.. 2'73's are for top end.. With 3:73's you would have been quick off the line,no top end.. Did it have crossfire fuel injection..?

ugh!!! your right.. 373 stock.. automatic.. it had a throttle body.. looked like 2 windex bottles squeezing into the motor... 2 air filters.. ran great.. but not tons of power.. the trans am High Output would smoke me..

Automatics didn't have 3:73's..you probably had 3:23's and yes you did have crossfire.. Manual trans was usually 3:45 or 3:73's.. I had an 84 Z28,86 iroc,87 Iroc with tuned port injection,3:45 posi and was a stick..very rare car.. faster than hell.. 89 firebird formula same exact as the 87 Iroc,very fast..89 Iroc,350 vette motor..the Iroc and firebird would beat it. 86 corvette with a stick very fast..Would beat all Irocs..My 99 would kill everything I've had.. My bro's 2000 vette with the 6 spd would kill my TA..

[larryfromnextdoor]

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

my '82 trans am had 2:73 in the rear.... all front end... half way through the quarter i fell way behind.. i had no end power..

Was it a stick or auto.. it probably had 3:73's.. 2'73's are for top end.. With 3:73's you would have been quick off the line,no top end.. Did it have crossfire fuel injection..?

ugh!!! your right.. 373 stock.. automatic.. it had a throttle body.. looked like 2 windex bottles squeezing into the motor... 2 air filters.. ran great.. but not tons of power.. the trans am High Output would smoke me..

Automatics didn't have 3:73's..you probably had 3:23's and yes you did have crossfire.. Manual trans was usually 3:45 or 3:73's.. I had an 84 Z28,86 iroc,87 Iroc with tuned port injection,3:45 posi and was a stick..very rare car.. faster than hell.. 89 firebird formula same exact as the 87 Iroc,very fast..89 Iroc,350 vette motor..the Iroc and firebird would beat it. 86 corvette with a stick very fast..Would beat all Irocs..My 99 would kill everything I've had.. My bro's 2000 vette with the 6 spd would kill my TA..

wow!! you are schooling my memory in a major way!! all of this is sounding familiar... im having to go back to '84 here... i was 17... you know your stuff man.. what do you know about Kaepa shoes with 2 shoe strings? i was hip baby.. HIP!!!.. im borrowing a scanner tommorow to show MY car..

[Little Lenny]

I just love Smokey and the Bandit, definitely up there with a lot of classics..I love the crazyness of it and some of the comic lines such as:

Buford T. Justice: Hey boy, where is Sheriff Branford at?
Sheriff Branford: I AM Sheriff Branford.
Buford T. Justice: Oh, pardon me. For some reason you sounded a little taller on radio.

I also love the snowmans dog- Fred he is just so cute and cuddly!!

[Shadowsong]

Sorry dude..your Old is not hitting 160.. What happened is you changed the gears from 3:23's to about 3:73's and your speedo was about 20-30 miles an hour off..Trust me ,I've done it myself.. My Trans am has 2:73 highway gears..Grrr.. I might put 3:42's in..not sure yet..Its still faster than hell..Mine would do 160..Yours isn't aero dynamic enough to do it..The wind would hit it like a brick wall..My 86 corvette convertible Indianapolis 500 edition pace car hit 156.. Still had more..My brothers 2000 Vette with the 6 spd should do 180.. Horsepower means nothing if you don't have the aero dynamics to back it up..

Very good post, however, horsepower means everything. I once had a train with 32,000 HP in 8 locomotives and we pulled 196 cars at 55 mph, on a .5% grade. Trust me dude, HP is everything! But you're right too, because on another trip, I had 24,000 HP and 60 cars of grain and went from 50mph to barely 30 when the fucking wind in the Columbia river gorge hit us. I had her full out, just to do 30!

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

You're probably right on the metic cid

Lower rear end gearing will have a high top end speed
but higher differential gearing will be faster in the 1/4 mile.
Just depends what you want to use the car for

T/A had a posi rear
didn't know the rear but an automatic a AC likely 2.73 or 3.23

The benz has a top speed in the 150 range
most likey higher than the trans AM
Limited slip differential on mine as its a Euro
I think the gearing is 2.24
but don't quote me on that

HP on the benz car probably 235 net

Engines have potential HP
the rest depends on gearing & other factors


Also remember horsepower in the early days was measured in GBP
Grossbrake
Now its measured in net so its a lower number but not necessarily any slower

Gearing is very important
As is fuel
Old cars were carb
newer have fuel injection

[Rockindeano]

Lot of errors in Smokey and the Bandit.

At the end, as they are nearing the end of the run, Bandit looks up at the helicopter and says, 10 minutes...10 Goddamned minutes..."Cledus, you got your ears on son? Listen, we gave it a Helluva shot. We're hangin it up son." Snowman gets all jacked up says, "Whoa! Negatory(is that even a word). We came this far didn't we?" Bandit: I'm the one they're after, they don't even know Cledus Snow exists." Snowman: Oh they don't do they? Wel hahaha, let's just introduce them to the boy. Move out the way Mr Bandit, because the Snowman, is a cummin through."

"Daddy, you're about to have your evenin ruined"- He sees Snowman haul as into the Fairgrounds.

My point is they are doing 60-70mph, and they are 4 miles from the end, and have 10 minutes to get there. Plus, when they DO arrive, Bandit says, "Hot damn we're 15 mins early." Uh?

I have seen it so many times, I can count a lot of errors.

[Little Lenny]

Lot of errors in Smokey and the Bandit.

At the end, as they are nearing the end of the run, Bandit looks up at the helicopter and says, 10 minutes...10 Goddamned minutes..."Cledus, you got your ears on son? Listen, we gave it a Helluva shot. We're hangin it up son." Snowman gets all jacked up says, "Whoa! Negatory(is that even a word). We came this far didn't we?" Bandit: I'm the one they're after, they don't even know Cledus Snow exists." Snowman: Oh they don't do they? Wel hahaha, let's just introduce them to the boy. Move out the way Mr Bandit, because the Snowman, is a cummin through."

"Daddy, you're about to have your evenin ruined"- He sees Snowman haul as into the Fairgrounds.

My point is they are doing 60-70mph, and they are 4 miles from the end, and have 10 minutes to get there. Plus, when they DO arrive, Bandit says, "Hot damn we're 15 mins early." Uh?

I have seen it so many times, I can count a lot of errors.

I still like the film though, good fun, unlike a lot of films nowadays

[wildone]

I have been in the industry for 18 yrs.. Hp means everything when its set up right.. If you have a 69 chevelle with a 427 big block with 505 horsepower and 4:11 gears..guess what.. top end 115.. IF you had 2:73's potentially you could hit 160,but the car isn't aerodynamic enough and its way too damn heavy.. The chevelle would take my 99 Trans am til we hit about 120,then my TA would pull away.. My car would have the top end because of the 2:73's..Its like a bicycle with a big sprocket compared to one with a small sprocket..

my '82 trans am had 2:73 in the rear.... all front end... half way through the quarter i fell way behind.. i had no end power..

Was it a stick or auto.. it probably had 3:73's.. 2'73's are for top end.. With 3:73's you would have been quick off the line,no top end.. Did it have crossfire fuel injection..?

ugh!!! your right.. 373 stock.. automatic.. it had a throttle body.. looked like 2 windex bottles squeezing into the motor... 2 air filters.. ran great.. but not tons of power.. the trans am High Output would smoke me..

Automatics didn't have 3:73's..you probably had 3:23's and yes you did have crossfire.. Manual trans was usually 3:45 or 3:73's.. I had an 84 Z28,86 iroc,87 Iroc with tuned port injection,3:45 posi and was a stick..very rare car.. faster than hell.. 89 firebird formula same exact as the 87 Iroc,very fast..89 Iroc,350 vette motor..the Iroc and firebird would beat it. 86 corvette with a stick very fast..Would beat all Irocs..My 99 would kill everything I've had.. My bro's 2000 vette with the 6 spd would kill my TA..

looking back I think the 373's where an option .you had to click the right box when ordering the car.But for me I'm lovin these cobras all aluminum...big hp like 600++ and only weighing in at 2200lbs. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZyzqPHliD9Y checkem out!! kirkhammotorsports.com

[Rockindeano]

Will you fuckin gearheads stop hijacking Franks S+B thread?

Oh by the way, the new Corvette will do 200mph.

[RedWingFan]

Will you fuckin gearheads stop hijacking Franks S+B thread?

Oh by the way, the new Corvette will do 200mph.

Yeah, say goodbye to it all. Thanks in most part to that idiot AlGore.
http://blog.mlive.com/kzgazette/2007/12 ... nd_fo.html

[NealIsGod]

By the way, your next president will not be Hillary, Obama, Rudy, or anyone else currently in the race. Mark my words, the next President of the United States will be...

Colin Powell.