JOURNEY "Back in the National Consciousness"

[nolippin]

Damn, dude, can't you read?? Read the whiny little pity party he called a blog. He couldn't even keep his own story straight. He contradicted himself.
Then, read what he posted on a private board when he thought no one but his groupies would see. That and his posts in this thread alone are not the words of an honorable man.

As someone who auditioned and was rejected Jeremey's "insight" is always slanted to make himself look good.

My facts are straight...depending on which version of his blog you want to believe.

If what he says is true, then it really isn't "slanted" now is it? Some of you keep saying that he's lying yet no one has presented any proof that he is. The burden of proof is on you.

[conversationpc]

Damn, dude, can't you read?? Read the whiny little pity party he called a blog. He couldn't even keep his own story straight. He contradicted himself.
Then, read what he posted on a private board when he thought no one but his groupies would see. That and his posts in this thread alone are not the words of an honorable man.

I've read the whole thing. If you think he contradicted himself then post it here and prove it.

[ScarabGator]

HOW LONG TILL THIS GOD FORSAKEN THREAD GETS LOCKED?!?!!??!

[nolippin]

How about you just learn to read for comprehension instead of asking me to do all your work for you? He said himself that after he mouthed off at Neal, he called Cain back to say he had been too hasty. He's pissed because his little walkout didn't get the response he thought it would and when he called Cain back, they blew him off.

His little groupies are the only ones who want to believe the "family man" spin he's trying to put on it now.

Damn, dude, can't you read?? Read the whiny little pity party he called a blog. He couldn't even keep his own story straight. He contradicted himself.
Then, read what he posted on a private board when he thought no one but his groupies would see. That and his posts in this thread alone are not the words of an honorable man.

I've read the whole thing. If you think he contradicted himself then post it here and prove it.

[conversationpc]

How about you just learn to read for comprehension instead of asking me to do all your work for you?

Sorry, lazy man. The burden of proof is on the accuser and I'm not the one accusing. Present the evidence. Put up or shut up.

He said himself that after he mouthed off at Neal, he called Cain back to say he had been too hasty. He's pissed because his little walkout didn't get the response he thought it would and when he called Cain back, they blew him off.

I remember that quote and didn't take the same thing away from it that you did. We all screw up and he was man enough to admit it. In the end, Jeremey made the right decision, in my opinion.

[AR]

Then, read what he posted on a private board when he thought no one but his groupies would see. That and his posts in this thread alone are not the words of an honorable man.

Key word being "private". Someone broke that trust, and Behshad was more than willing to post it here. Fine by me, as a lot of probably innocent people just lost their privileges.

Do not PM me here if you got whacked from the board. Spam Behshad's inbox until he gives up how he got that info. Otherwise, no one get's back on.

I'm tired of the FREAKS in Journey's fanbase.

[nolippin]

Dude, that board of yours has been full of holes for months.

Then, read what he posted on a private board when he thought no one but his groupies would see. That and his posts in this thread alone are not the words of an honorable man.

Key word being "private". Someone broke that trust, and Behshad was more than willing to post it here. Fine by me, as a lot of probably innocent people just lost their privileges.

Do not PM me here if you got whacked from the board. Spam Behshad's inbox until he gives up how he got that info. Otherwise, no one get's back on.

I'm tired of the FREAKS in Journey's fanbase.

[StevePerryHair]

Then, read what he posted on a private board when he thought no one but his groupies would see. That and his posts in this thread alone are not the words of an honorable man.

Key word being "private". Someone broke that trust, and Behshad was more than willing to post it here. Fine by me, as a lot of probably innocent people just lost their privileges.

Do not PM me here if you got whacked from the board. Spam Behshad's inbox until he gives up how he got that info. Otherwise, no one get's back on.

I'm tired of the FREAKS in Journey's fanbase.

And I 'm tired of people who pretend to be "friends" on a message board who can't even back up a person when someone like Jeremey says something way out of line about them Ed. I think I deserved better than that, but then again it is a message board of "journey freaks" as you called them.

[AR]

Dude, that board of yours has been full of holes for months.

Not anymore. I and the mods were a little too inclusive I guess. No longer.

Good luck even finding the new URL next week.

This just did us a favor in all reality.

[Greg]

My facts are straight...depending on which version of his blog you want to believe.

Let's see: My facts = What Jeremey stated himself.
Your facts: What he said, she said, it said, so forth and so on.

I think I'll believe Jeremey's version over yours.

[Lori Jo]

Once again I say, "Welcome, Arnel!!" I cannot wait to see you in concert and buy the DVD that is going to be filmed! That goes for my son, too, and even my husband tells me he wants to come see you in concert! Great things are ahead for you.

Um, I wouldn't stake anything of importance on a DVD being filmed. We have heard this before, about a thousand times or so.

Yeah, of course, I know this. My only point was that if they DO put out a DVD with Arnel, I will buy it. Probably two - one for myself and one for my son.

[nolippin]

Wrong. I'm beginning to see why people like you are so easily led. My facts are coming from actually reading the whole blog and his subsequent spinning of what he said when challenged in the discussions both here and in the comments of his blog. It was what Jeremey said himself that I am going on.

My facts are straight...depending on which version of his blog you want to believe.

Let's see: My facts = What Jeremey stated himself.
Your facts: What he said, she said, it said, so forth and so on.

I think I'll believe Jeremey's version over yours.

[conversationpc]

Wrong. I'm beginning to see why people like you are so easily led.

Typical diversionary tactic. If someone disagrees with you, it's because they are stupid, biased, or they are a sheep, i.e. "easily led".

[Greg]

Wrong. I'm beginning to see why people like you are so easily led. My facts are coming from actually reading the whole blog and his subsequent spinning of what he said when challenged in the discussions both here and in the comments of his blog. It was what Jeremey said himself that I am going on.

Or either you're just led by having a nature toward conspiracy theories. Have you actually met Jeremey? People closely associated with him?

[yogi]

Nobody likes my Elvis idea.

I am hurt!!!

[StevePerryHair]

That's low, dude. Real low.

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

[conversationpc]

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

What did he say about you? I must've missed it.

[nolippin]

That seems to be the prevailing attitude here. Some disagreed with your hero worship, so you started a poll to defame them.

Wrong. I'm beginning to see why people like you are so easily led.

Typical diversionary tactic. If someone disagrees with you, it's because they are stupid, biased, or they are a sheep, i.e. "easily led".

[StevePerryHair]

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

What did he say about you? I must've missed it.

Jeremey said this which is what started this whole shit storm, not that I want to see it printed here over and over (I would be SPH) This is Mr. manners apparently. Oh, and apparently it came from the annex which is why Ed is up in arms.

JEREMEY



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Speaking of SPH, is she like Beshad's Quatto or something? Fucking bitch posts after every post of his. I thought she was cool at the Melee, but she's a real douchebag & apparently has Beshad's sack on her chin. Fuckin' ass Beshad had to attack me in the audition thread. So the board is safe with Beshit the policeman making sure I don't post? I don't get it. Furthermore, I got a warning from fucking TBone for trying to defend myself which I really had to let go or I would have taken offense to it.

[Rockindeano]

This isn't good for the Board and the Board's community. This is tearing MR apart like an undercooked Pop Tart.

[nolippin]

I'm judging the guy on what he has said and his behavior on this forum and in his blog.

Wrong. I'm beginning to see why people like you are so easily led. My facts are coming from actually reading the whole blog and his subsequent spinning of what he said when challenged in the discussions both here and in the comments of his blog. It was what Jeremey said himself that I am going on.

Or either you're just led by having a nature toward conspiracy theories. Have you actually met Jeremey? People closely associated with him?

[conversationpc]

Speaking of SPH, is she like Beshad's Quatto or something? Fucking bitch posts after every post of his. I thought she was cool at the Melee, but she's a real douchebag & apparently has Beshad's sack on her chin. Fuckin' ass Beshad had to attack me in the audition thread. So the board is safe with Beshit the policeman making sure I don't post? I don't get it. Furthermore, I got a warning from fucking TBone for trying to defend myself which I really had to let go or I would have taken offense to it.

On one hand, I can understand Jeremey's frustration. At the same time, I don't condone these comments, either.

[conversationpc]

This isn't good for the Board and the Board's community. This is tearing MR apart like an undercooked Pop Tart.

Agreed. I'll post no more in this thread and I think both Behshad and Jeremey should agree to discuss the topic no further as well.

[StevePerryHair]

Speaking of SPH, is she like Beshad's Quatto or something? Fucking bitch posts after every post of his. I thought she was cool at the Melee, but she's a real douchebag & apparently has Beshad's sack on her chin. Fuckin' ass Beshad had to attack me in the audition thread. So the board is safe with Beshit the policeman making sure I don't post? I don't get it. Furthermore, I got a warning from fucking TBone for trying to defend myself which I really had to let go or I would have taken offense to it.

On one hand, I can understand Jeremey's frustration. At the same time, I don't condone these comments, either.

Well, I never disrespected Jeremey in any of my posts that day this happened. I simply defended a friend when Jeremey decided to resort to name calling with him and then with me also, apparently, but in "private" because he knew if he posted that here on MR, he would look bad.

[Jeremey]

That's low, dude. Real low.

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

SPH, let me apologize publically to you which should have been kept private. I am sure that you talk freely among your family and friends differently than you would on a public stage for all the world to see, but that wouldn't stop you from venting in private to your friends. I'm sure you've said worse things about me in private, right? If you haven't, then I'm heartily sorry.

You see, during that time, nolippin and BSD were posting nonstop theories about me sending tapes off to Neal, lying to Jeff and everyone else in this board, and insulting my wife. At this same time, you literally were posting directly after BSD, taking me to task for defending myself. I was bewildered because I didn't know you except for when I met you at the Melee, and you were involved in our baby shower there and everything, and the next time I hear from you, you were calling me names for doing basically the same thing your buddy BSD was doing.

I was frustrated, and I vented about it in a private forum. Where that sort of thing should be done. I wouldn't have said those things to you personally, and didn't mean to hurt your feelings, because of course I was just blowing off steam and wouldn't have meant to hurt your feelings.

Now the person you were defending during that time, and being a pain in the ass to me, has gone and hurt YOUR feelings by posting those words in public, to embarrass me apparently, but with little regard to how you might feel. I ask you, how does that jibe with you? The people you think are your friends would use you as an example to try to harass or embarass someone? And that's cool with you? Well, unless you knew about it all the time and agreed that BSD could post that sentence to try to "out me," so to speak. But that would have meant you all would have planned that kind of thing, conspired, even...That doesn't sound right, cause that's the same thing you're accusing me of...

Well, anyway, I wanted to give you a public apology here on this board for saying those things. I used you as an example to throw in a Total Recall reference, and then the balls on chin thing was just over the line. Please have a great weekend. I am sorry.

[Greg]

I'm judging the guy on what he has said and his behavior on this forum and in his blog.

Exactly. You have just your opinions...no facts. I've met Jeremey and have spoken with him at length. He's a nice guy with a nice family. His band mates are good people as well. I've read his blog as well, and you're the only one who sees any type of contradiction. You're just wanting to stir up crap because you have nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon.

[youkeepmewaiting]

this has all been taken too far now, i look forward to Andrew taken this down, before the board becomes a shambles.

[StevePerryHair]

That's low, dude. Real low.

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

SPH, let me apologize publically to you which should have been kept private. I am sure that you talk freely among your family and friends differently than you would on a public stage for all the world to see, but that wouldn't stop you from venting in private to your friends. I'm sure you've said worse things about me in private, right? If you haven't, then I'm heartily sorry.

You see, during that time, nolippin and BSD were posting nonstop theories about me sending tapes off to Neal, lying to Jeff and everyone else in this board, and insulting my wife. At this same time, you literally were posting directly after BSD, taking me to task for defending myself. I was bewildered because I didn't know you except for when I met you at the Melee, and you were involved in our baby shower there and everything, and the next time I hear from you, you were calling me names for doing basically the same thing your buddy BSD was doing.

I was frustrated, and I vented about it in a private forum. Where that sort of thing should be done. I wouldn't have said those things to you personally, and didn't mean to hurt your feelings, because of course I was just blowing off steam and wouldn't have meant to hurt your feelings.

Now the person you were defending during that time, and being a pain in the ass to me, has gone and hurt YOUR feelings by posting those words in public, to embarrass me apparently, but with little regard to how you might feel. I ask you, how does that jibe with you? The people you think are your friends would use you as an example to try to harass or embarass someone? And that's cool with you? Well, unless you knew about it all the time and agreed that BSD could post that sentence to try to "out me," so to speak. But that would have meant you all would have planned that kind of thing, conspired, even...That doesn't sound right, cause that's the same thing you're accusing me of...

Well, anyway, I wanted to give you a public apology here on this board for saying those things. I used you as an example to throw in a Total Recall reference, and then the balls on chin thing was just over the line. Please have a great weekend. I am sorry.

What you don't understand Jeremey is that I used to be part of that "private" forum, so when you vented those words to your "friends", you were venting them to what I thought were my "friends" too. But no one bothered to tell you anything about me and that maybe you were wrong, so I guess I was wrong about that anyway. And in my posts where I defended Behshad, I did not once call you a name. You called Behshad a lot of names, and since he is a friend of mine I stepped in with a few posts. I think the worst thing I called you was rude.

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

[nolippin]

No. I'm not the only one who can read for comprehension. Apparently, you have nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon either.

I'm judging the guy on what he has said and his behavior on this forum and in his blog.

Exactly. You have just your opinions...no facts. I've met Jeremey and have spoken with him at length. He's a nice guy with a nice family. His band mates are good people as well. I've read his blog as well, and you're the only one who sees any type of contradiction. You're just wanting to stir up crap because you have nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon.

[Behshad]

That's low, dude. Real low.

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

SPH, let me apologize publically to you which should have been kept private. I am sure that you talk freely among your family and friends differently than you would on a public stage for all the world to see, but that wouldn't stop you from venting in private to your friends. I'm sure you've said worse things about me in private, right? If you haven't, then I'm heartily sorry.

You see, during that time, nolippin and BSD were posting nonstop theories about me sending tapes off to Neal, lying to Jeff and everyone else in this board, and insulting my wife. At this same time, you literally were posting directly after BSD, taking me to task for defending myself. I was bewildered because I didn't know you except for when I met you at the Melee, and you were involved in our baby shower there and everything, and the next time I hear from you, you were calling me names for doing basically the same thing your buddy BSD was doing.

I was frustrated, and I vented about it in a private forum. Where that sort of thing should be done. I wouldn't have said those things to you personally, and didn't mean to hurt your feelings, because of course I was just blowing off steam and wouldn't have meant to hurt your feelings.

Now the person you were defending during that time, and being a pain in the ass to me, has gone and hurt YOUR feelings by posting those words in public, to embarrass me apparently, but with little regard to how you might feel. I ask you, how does that jibe with you? The people you think are your friends would use you as an example to try to harass or embarass someone? And that's cool with you? Well, unless you knew about it all the time and agreed that BSD could post that sentence to try to "out me," so to speak. But that would have meant you all would have planned that kind of thing, conspired, even...That doesn't sound right, cause that's the same thing you're accusing me of...

Well, anyway, I wanted to give you a public apology here on this board for saying those things. I used you as an example to throw in a Total Recall reference, and then the balls on chin thing was just over the line. Please have a great weekend. I am sorry.

How noble of you to apologize to someone, just cause you got busted.

And sure, we all may have different ways in public and PRIVATE as you say it,,, but just cause its a PRIVATE board, doesnt give you the right to badmouth someone,,,
if you had a problem with her, shouldnt you have gone to her and confronted her instead of badmouthing her in front of others (who actually consider SPH their friend)....
None of the gutless people stood up for her,, cause they thought they have a better chance to get front row seats at Frontiers show and party with you, if they give up their friendship with her,.,,,, THATS low, Sir.....