JOURNEY "Back in the National Consciousness"

[Jeremey]

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

I don't like to see people's feelings hurt, and if I did, I would have posted those words directly to you on a public forum. That's the part about having manners...Regardless, that's what happens when tempers flare and people blow off steam. Again, I thought doing that kind of stuff in private was where it should be done. You keep yours inside? Anyway, I am sorry, and I'm not trying to save face.

[youkeepmewaiting]

That's low, dude. Real low.

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

SPH, let me apologize publically to you which should have been kept private. I am sure that you talk freely among your family and friends differently than you would on a public stage for all the world to see, but that wouldn't stop you from venting in private to your friends. I'm sure you've said worse things about me in private, right? If you haven't, then I'm heartily sorry.

You see, during that time, nolippin and BSD were posting nonstop theories about me sending tapes off to Neal, lying to Jeff and everyone else in this board, and insulting my wife. At this same time, you literally were posting directly after BSD, taking me to task for defending myself. I was bewildered because I didn't know you except for when I met you at the Melee, and you were involved in our baby shower there and everything, and the next time I hear from you, you were calling me names for doing basically the same thing your buddy BSD was doing.

I was frustrated, and I vented about it in a private forum. Where that sort of thing should be done. I wouldn't have said those things to you personally, and didn't mean to hurt your feelings, because of course I was just blowing off steam and wouldn't have meant to hurt your feelings.

Now the person you were defending during that time, and being a pain in the ass to me, has gone and hurt YOUR feelings by posting those words in public, to embarrass me apparently, but with little regard to how you might feel. I ask you, how does that jibe with you? The people you think are your friends would use you as an example to try to harass or embarass someone? And that's cool with you? Well, unless you knew about it all the time and agreed that BSD could post that sentence to try to "out me," so to speak. But that would have meant you all would have planned that kind of thing, conspired, even...That doesn't sound right, cause that's the same thing you're accusing me of...

Well, anyway, I wanted to give you a public apology here on this board for saying those things. I used you as an example to throw in a Total Recall reference, and then the balls on chin thing was just over the line. Please have a great weekend. I am sorry.

How noble of you to apologize to someone, just cause you got busted.

And sure, we all may have different ways in public and PRIVATE as you say it,,, but just cause its a PRIVATE board, doesnt give you the right to badmouth someone,,,
if you had a problem with her, shouldnt you have gone to her and confronted her instead of badmouthing her in front of others (who actually consider SPH their friend)....
None of the gutless people stood up for her,, cause they thought they have a better chance to get front row seats at Frontiers show and party with you, if they give up their friendship with her,.,,,, THATS low, Sir.....

look take your loves tiff to PM's please

[Jeremey]

How noble of you to apologize to someone, just cause you got busted.

And sure, we all may have different ways in public and PRIVATE as you say it,,, but just cause its a PRIVATE board, doesnt give you the right to badmouth someone,,,
if you had a problem with her, shouldnt you have gone to her and confronted her instead of badmouthing her in front of others (who actually consider SPH their friend)....
None of the gutless people stood up for her,, cause they thought they have a better chance to get front row seats at Frontiers show and party with you, if they give up their friendship with her,.,,,, THATS low, Sir.....

Job well done, Captain Behshad! Keep fighting the good fight....

[nolippin]

BULLSHIT!!!! I haven't posted non stop anything about you. Get your head out of your own ass. You and only YOU were the one who brought your wife into any discussion. JOURNEY DIDN"T FUCKING HIRE YOU!!! GET OVER IT!!!

That's low, dude. Real low.

Nig, I'd like to know why it's low to show something totally uncalled for and untrue about me, but not LOW for Jeremey to say that about me. That confuses me. Just because he said it in a "private" site, its' okay to rip and tear people down like we are in high school?

SPH, let me apologize publically to you which should have been kept private. I am sure that you talk freely among your family and friends differently than you would on a public stage for all the world to see, but that wouldn't stop you from venting in private to your friends. I'm sure you've said worse things about me in private, right? If you haven't, then I'm heartily sorry.

You see, during that time, nolippin and BSD were posting nonstop theories about me sending tapes off to Neal, lying to Jeff and everyone else in this board, and insulting my wife. At this same time, you literally were posting directly after BSD, taking me to task for defending myself. I was bewildered because I didn't know you except for when I met you at the Melee, and you were involved in our baby shower there and everything, and the next time I hear from you, you were calling me names for doing basically the same thing your buddy BSD was doing.

I was frustrated, and I vented about it in a private forum. Where that sort of thing should be done. I wouldn't have said those things to you personally, and didn't mean to hurt your feelings, because of course I was just blowing off steam and wouldn't have meant to hurt your feelings.

Now the person you were defending during that time, and being a pain in the ass to me, has gone and hurt YOUR feelings by posting those words in public, to embarrass me apparently, but with little regard to how you might feel. I ask you, how does that jibe with you? The people you think are your friends would use you as an example to try to harass or embarass someone? And that's cool with you? Well, unless you knew about it all the time and agreed that BSD could post that sentence to try to "out me," so to speak. But that would have meant you all would have planned that kind of thing, conspired, even...That doesn't sound right, cause that's the same thing you're accusing me of...

Well, anyway, I wanted to give you a public apology here on this board for saying those things. I used you as an example to throw in a Total Recall reference, and then the balls on chin thing was just over the line. Please have a great weekend. I am sorry.

[StevePerryHair]

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

I don't like to see people's feelings hurt, and if I did, I would have posted those words directly to you on a public forum. That's the part about having manners...Regardless, that's what happens when tempers flare and people blow off steam. Again, I thought doing that kind of stuff in private was where it should be done. You keep yours inside? Anyway, I am sorry, and I'm not trying to save face.

Well maybe vent them to your wife next time then, where it is truly private. The annex is full of people, people who I personally know and have hung out with, so it's not your private playground to go to so you can rip me apart. That made it all the worse to me.

[brywool]

When he was hired over a singer from a Journey cover band, he also had to learn to deal with an undercurrent of racism among some Journey fans.

Sensationalism bullshit.

I don't think it's bullshit. The racism is pretty apparent in many posts here. It doesn't have anything to do with him being hired over a person from a cover band. Those two items don't go hand in hand.

[Jeremey]

BULLSHIT!!!! I haven't posted non stop anything about you. Get your head out of your own ass. You and only YOU were the one who brought your wife into any discussion. JOURNEY DIDN"T FUCKING HIRE YOU!!! GET OVER IT!!!

Geez, dude...You talk like a crazy person!

You had like a 5 page thread going on about my wife at one point.

Anyway, carry on.

[Greg]

BULLSHIT!!!! I haven't posted non stop anything about you. Get your head out of your own ass. You and only YOU were the one who brought your wife into any discussion. JOURNEY DIDN"T FUCKING HIRE YOU!!! GET OVER IT!!!

Are you drunk or high or both?

[Jeremey]

Well maybe vent them to your wife next time then, where it is truly private. The annex is full of people, people who I personally know and have hung out with, so it's not your private playground to go to so you can rip me apart. That made it all the worse to me.

Lynn, listen to me very carefully, because this is the God's honest truth. When you started publically siding with BSD in his public crusade against me, you hurt my feelings, and you hurt my wife's feelings when she read it, because she had met you personally and thought you were a nice person. We did talk about it, and she thought you were a cool person at the Melee, and couldn't understand why you were sticking up for someone who had posted untrue and hurtful things about me. So you hurt your share of feelings. Now man up, and let's all get over it.

[styxman]

This is like an early episode of Falcon Crest

[styxman]

or Dallas

[nolippin]

No that's just the way you chose to spin it when you saw how unpopular using your wife as a scapegoat was on the board.

BULLSHIT!!!! I haven't posted non stop anything about you. Get your head out of your own ass. You and only YOU were the one who brought your wife into any discussion. JOURNEY DIDN"T FUCKING HIRE YOU!!! GET OVER IT!!!

Geez, dude...You talk like a crazy person!

You had like a 5 page thread going on about my wife at one point.

Anyway, carry on.

[Behshad]

Well maybe vent them to your wife next time then, where it is truly private. The annex is full of people, people who I personally know and have hung out with, so it's not your private playground to go to so you can rip me apart. That made it all the worse to me.

Lynn, listen to me very carefully, because this is the God's honest truth. When you started publically siding with BSD in his public crusade against me, you hurt my feelings, and you hurt my wife's feelings when she read it, because she had met you personally and thought you were a nice person. We did talk about it, and she thought you were a cool person at the Melee, and couldn't understand why you were sticking up for someone who had posted untrue and hurtful things about me. So you hurt your share of feelings. Now man up, and let's all get over it.

Jeremey,You listen carefully,
Based on what you say about , you are justifying what you said about Lynn,, cause after all, she hurt your feeling,,,,she was wrong for siding up with me and not sticking to the truth...
If thats the case, then why did you apologize?

You try to twist things around and now youre tryin to blame Lynn for you badmouthing her. get real dude....

Simple fact is that you are very upset that Journey didnt hire you,,,, and we both know what that LITTLE dealbreaker was,,,,, Out of respect for many people here I am not gonna go into details about that, cause that was low of Neal to put that blame on you!

[StevePerryHair]

Well maybe vent them to your wife next time then, where it is truly private. The annex is full of people, people who I personally know and have hung out with, so it's not your private playground to go to so you can rip me apart. That made it all the worse to me.

Lynn, listen to me very carefully, because this is the God's honest truth. When you started publically siding with BSD in his public crusade against me, you hurt my feelings, and you hurt my wife's feelings when she read it, because she had met you personally and thought you were a nice person. We did talk about it, and she thought you were a cool person at the Melee, and couldn't understand why you were sticking up for someone who had posted untrue and hurtful things about me. So you hurt your share of feelings. Now man up, and let's all get over it.

Well, I am a nice person. And how I feel about my friends and any "conspiracy theories" has no bearing on whether or not I am a nice person. I did not say one word for or against you that day until you started to call Behshad names and say he was crazy. You would have had a bigger leg to stand on in my eyes if you had kept your cool. I know Behshad and I have met him personally too. I can assure you he is not crazy. He may be passionate about his ideas and what he believes to be true, but crazy he is not. The next day when you decided to start a new thread, after Andrew had LOCKED the other one I got mad. It would just get you and Behshad going again and I did not want to see that. That's why I posted there to tell you it was wrong. It was not for defense. You wanted to keep the fight going so you could keep discrediting him and prove that you are "stand up" and he is not.

[styxman]

Mediator:

Jeremey's apologized.......perhaps a few weeks late BWTF!

SPH.......Think long and perhaps accept and also apologise and move on!

Behshad.......well, it's up to you dude, you can shag one or ass fill the other, how about we talk about the next JSS day dude

Moral of the story...haven't a fuckin' clue but if I look back I'll find an appropriate one

[AR]

What you don't understand Jeremey is that I used to be part of that "private" forum, so when you vented those words to your "friends", you were venting them to what I thought were my "friends" too. But no one bothered to tell you anything about me and that maybe you were wrong, so I guess I was wrong about that anyway. And in my posts where I defended Behshad, I did not once call you a name. You called Behshad a lot of names, and since he is a friend of mine I stepped in with a few posts. I think the worst thing I called you was rude.

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

The Annex is private. If he wants to call you a **** - that's his business. You know how we talk in there. Get the fuck over it.

Your friend Behshad has someone snooping around and that's the only problem I have. Unless I get a name, they all are banned. And a lot of good people just lost their privledges because of it.

Oh well, not my problem.

[StevePerryHair]

Mediator:

Jeremey's apologized.......perhaps a few weeks late BWTF!

SPH.......Think long and perhaps accept and also apologise and move on!

Behshad.......well, it's up to you dude, you can shag one or ass fill the other, how about we talk about the next JSS day dude

Moral of the story...haven't a fuckin' clue but if I look back I'll find an appropriate one

I have nothing to apologize for. I did no name calling and I said nothing against Jeremey. I only wish the threads weren't deleted so we could go back and see exactly what I did post. They just didnt' like that I was sticking up Behshad when Jeremey got "frustrated" with him and that I was not acting like a supporter. Apparently it hurt their feelings that Behshad is my friend basically.

[StevePerryHair]

What you don't understand Jeremey is that I used to be part of that "private" forum, so when you vented those words to your "friends", you were venting them to what I thought were my "friends" too. But no one bothered to tell you anything about me and that maybe you were wrong, so I guess I was wrong about that anyway. And in my posts where I defended Behshad, I did not once call you a name. You called Behshad a lot of names, and since he is a friend of mine I stepped in with a few posts. I think the worst thing I called you was rude.

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

The Annex is private. If he wants to call you a **** - that's his business. You know how we talk in there. Get the fuck over it.

And that's why I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE!!!!!!!! I already attended high school, thank you. The name calling and the vulgar things people say there are ridiculous.

[StevePerryHair]

What you don't understand Jeremey is that I used to be part of that "private" forum, so when you vented those words to your "friends", you were venting them to what I thought were my "friends" too. But no one bothered to tell you anything about me and that maybe you were wrong, so I guess I was wrong about that anyway. And in my posts where I defended Behshad, I did not once call you a name. You called Behshad a lot of names, and since he is a friend of mine I stepped in with a few posts. I think the worst thing I called you was rude.

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

The Annex is private. If he wants to call you a **** - that's his business. You know how we talk in there. Get the fuck over it.

Your friend Behshad has someone snooping around and that's the only problem I have. Unless I get a name, they all are banned. And a lot of good people just lost their privledges because of it.

Oh well, not my problem.

Well I hope the 5 of you that are left have a good time together

[AR]

And that's why I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE!!!!!!!! I already attended high school, thank you. The name calling and the vulgar things people say there are ridiculous.

Then why the living hell are you worried about what is said in there?

You are really annoying. Get off the internet and spend some time on a treadmill.

There - in public. Happy?

[styxman]

What you don't understand Jeremey is that I used to be part of that "private" forum, so when you vented those words to your "friends", you were venting them to what I thought were my "friends" too. But no one bothered to tell you anything about me and that maybe you were wrong, so I guess I was wrong about that anyway. And in my posts where I defended Behshad, I did not once call you a name. You called Behshad a lot of names, and since he is a friend of mine I stepped in with a few posts. I think the worst thing I called you was rude.

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

The Annex is private. If he wants to call you a **** - that's his business. You know how we talk in there. Get the fuck over it.

Your friend Behshad has someone snooping around and that's the only problem I have. Unless I get a name, they all are banned. And a lot of good people just lost their privledges because of it.

Oh well, not my problem.

God just entered the conversation

[nolippin]

Didn't someone post what you said on your board onto Frank's forum at one time?? Usually the people sucking up to you the most are the ones to look out for.

What you don't understand Jeremey is that I used to be part of that "private" forum, so when you vented those words to your "friends", you were venting them to what I thought were my "friends" too. But no one bothered to tell you anything about me and that maybe you were wrong, so I guess I was wrong about that anyway. And in my posts where I defended Behshad, I did not once call you a name. You called Behshad a lot of names, and since he is a friend of mine I stepped in with a few posts. I think the worst thing I called you was rude.

He didnt' hurt my feelings by posting that here. You did by posting that since they are your words, here or in the annex. I was as angry as he is when I saw what you said about me. You are on here all the time saying how he has no manners, he is a crazy insane person, but it's okay for you to go to a private site and do that because you are frustrated? I hope you regret saying that, and I hope it's not because you are trying to save face here on a public forum now too. Cause that's kinda what it looks like.

The Annex is private. If he wants to call you a **** - that's his business. You know how we talk in there. Get the fuck over it.

Your friend Behshad has someone snooping around and that's the only problem I have. Unless I get a name, they all are banned. And a lot of good people just lost their privledges because of it.

Oh well, not my problem.

[StevePerryHair]

And that's why I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE!!!!!!!! I already attended high school, thank you. The name calling and the vulgar things people say there are ridiculous.

Then why the living hell are you worried about what is said in there?

You are really annoying. Get off the internet and spend some time on a treadmill.

There - in public. Happy?

A treadmill? Yeah, okay Ed. Whatever. I don't care if I annoy you. It hurt my feelings that people who I thought liked me would not defend me when Jeremey said those things. WHAT Jeremey said didnt' even bother me as much as that did. But it's okay, you've proved my point on friends anyway.

[styxman]

Listen, just slow the fuck up. I've got to go down stairs, chill a beer, have a Marlboro and let the dog out for a piss. I've two other threads to read and a few PM's to reply to. So stop for 10 minutes as I'm all over the place here ....I fuckin serious about this, as for the first time this year, I'm enjoying the Journey Forum.

[Behshad]

And that's why I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE!!!!!!!! I already attended high school, thank you. The name calling and the vulgar things people say there are ridiculous.

Then why the living hell are you worried about what is said in there?

You are really annoying. Get off the internet and spend some time on a treadmill.

There - in public. Happy?

Dude,,,
that was uncalled for.
You should apologize to Lynn for being so rude in your post.

She wasnt interested in what was said about her their,,,,, I brought it up here and now she has a problem with it,,,, I am sure you would be upset too if you found out that someone had badmouthed you for no reason.
As I said before, I dont mind what people say about me at your board,,, but Lynn is innocent and most people there know she is a genuine friendly person,,, they all call her their friends for crying out loud,,, yet not one single person had the guts to stand up to Jeremey to at least tell him he shouldnt have said that.

I never had any problems with you, or your board. Its just sad that people who consider eachother friends over there can not stand up for eachother like true friends do. Lynn was never rude or mean to any of them, including yourself and Temperemy,,,, and this is how you guys treat her?

[AR]

Fuck off. Tell me how you got that post off my site and I'll apologize to her.

Behshad, have also conveniently forgotten your insults towards Sabrina?

And that's why I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE!!!!!!!! I already attended high school, thank you. The name calling and the vulgar things people say there are ridiculous.

Then why the living hell are you worried about what is said in there?

You are really annoying. Get off the internet and spend some time on a treadmill.

There - in public. Happy?

Dude,,,
that was uncalled for.
You should apologize to Lynn for being so rude in your post.

She wasnt interested in what was said about her their,,,,, I brought it up here and now she has a problem with it,,,, I am sure you would be upset too if you found out that someone had badmouthed you for no reason.
As I said before, I dont mind what people say about me at your board,,, but Lynn is innocent and most people there know she is a genuine friendly person,,, they all call her their friends for crying out loud,,, yet not one single person had the guts to stand up to Jeremey to at least tell him he shouldnt have said that.

I never had any problems with you, or your board. Its just sad that people who consider eachother friends over there can not stand up for eachother like true friends do. Lynn was never rude or mean to any of them, including yourself and Temperemy,,,, and this is how you guys treat her?

[Behshad]

How?
Simple.
By logging in and reading the post.

Now apologize.

Fuck off. Tell me how you got that post off my site and I'll apologize to her.

And that's why I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE!!!!!!!! I already attended high school, thank you. The name calling and the vulgar things people say there are ridiculous.

Then why the living hell are you worried about what is said in there?

You are really annoying. Get off the internet and spend some time on a treadmill.

There - in public. Happy?

Dude,,,
that was uncalled for.
You should apologize to Lynn for being so rude in your post.

She wasnt interested in what was said about her their,,,,, I brought it up here and now she has a problem with it,,,, I am sure you would be upset too if you found out that someone had badmouthed you for no reason.
As I said before, I dont mind what people say about me at your board,,, but Lynn is innocent and most people there know she is a genuine friendly person,,, they all call her their friends for crying out loud,,, yet not one single person had the guts to stand up to Jeremey to at least tell him he shouldnt have said that.

I never had any problems with you, or your board. Its just sad that people who consider eachother friends over there can not stand up for eachother like true friends do. Lynn was never rude or mean to any of them, including yourself and Temperemy,,,, and this is how you guys treat her?

[StevePerryHair]

Fuck off. Tell me how you got that post off my site and I'll apologize to her.

And that's why I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THERE!!!!!!!! I already attended high school, thank you. The name calling and the vulgar things people say there are ridiculous.

Then why the living hell are you worried about what is said in there?

You are really annoying. Get off the internet and spend some time on a treadmill.

There - in public. Happy?

Dude,,,
that was uncalled for.
You should apologize to Lynn for being so rude in your post.

She wasnt interested in what was said about her their,,,,, I brought it up here and now she has a problem with it,,,, I am sure you would be upset too if you found out that someone had badmouthed you for no reason.
As I said before, I dont mind what people say about me at your board,,, but Lynn is innocent and most people there know she is a genuine friendly person,,, they all call her their friends for crying out loud,,, yet not one single person had the guts to stand up to Jeremey to at least tell him he shouldnt have said that.

I never had any problems with you, or your board. Its just sad that people who consider eachother friends over there can not stand up for eachother like true friends do. Lynn was never rude or mean to any of them, including yourself and Temperemy,,,, and this is how you guys treat her?

I don't need your apology Ed.

[AR]

How?
Simple.
By logging in and reading the post.

Now apologize.

Playing Susie games with multiple personalities I see. If not, Joe will have some explaining to do.

[chf34jmac]

Uh yeah and I got ripped by Andrew for telling someone to fuck off! There are two people currently that need the same speech and they are not SPH or Jeremey. I still have absolutely no clue what nolippins hardon is for Jer and I thought Beshsad was a man and could move on after JSS got shit canned from Journey but apparently he holds a grudge in believing that Jeremey had anything to do with it.


Andrew, I'll wait for my apology. Sometimes a good old fashioned "fuck off" works wonders.