infinity before infinity?

by **Chrismo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:51 pm

wondering if any of you guys have heard about this...

a customer of mine came in and we got into a discussion about pre-perry journey. he said that he had bought an album, or heard it, right before infinity came out. he said gregg rolie was doing all the vocals, and the album had "lights" "feeling that way" and "anytime", but he didn't think it had "wheel in the sky" on it. he said that after perry joined, the album was re-worked with perry's vocals and infinity came out.

does anyone know what he is referring to? i thought it would be "next", but the track listing contains none of the "infinity" tracks.

by **Johnny Mohawk** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:41 pm

Sounds like your customer is wrong!

Though there are some versions floating around of a few of the Infinity tunes before Perry joined, none of this material was officially released back then. Time3 contains an early version of "Feelin' That Way", before Perry changed it up a bit and added his vocals, but though it was recorded before Infinity, it wasn't released until the early 90's.

Also, your customer mentioned that "Lights" was one of the tunes he heard. That's impossible, as Perry brought that tune to the band (he and Schon finished it up), so "Lights" didn't exist in Journey before Perry was on board.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:53 pm

someone (laura?) posted WHEEL with Fleishman singing a while back ,, studio version.. was very different.. i liked the diversity of it .. but was big time different.. :wink:

by **Chrismo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:16 pm

Johnny Mohawk wrote:Sounds like your customer is wrong!

Though there are some versions floating around of a few of the Infinity tunes before Perry joined, none of this material was officially released back then. Time3 contains an early version of "Feelin' That Way", before Perry changed it up a bit and added his vocals, but though it was recorded before Infinity, it wasn't released until the early 90's.

Also, your customer mentioned that "Lights" was one of the tunes he heard. That's impossible, as Perry brought that tune to the band (he and Schon finished it up), so "Lights" didn't exist in Journey before Perry was on board.

he wasn't exactly sure on that one either, so who knows haha.

by **annie89509** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:27 pm

Fleishman also sang Winds of March and Anytime before SP was hired.

by **Chrismo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:15 pm

annie89509 wrote:Fleishman also sang Winds of March and Anytime before SP was hired.

were any of his songs ever released?

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:01 pm

Chrismo wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Fleishman also sang Winds of March and Anytime before SP was hired.

were any of his songs ever released?

I don't think so, but I've seen videos on Youtube with Fleishman singing those tunes. Here's him singing Winds of March...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSGM_pZwsmY

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:04 pm

Here's Fleishman singing Anytime. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eQxYpDh ... re=related

by **Chrismo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:09 pm

meh. it's ok. but doesn't beat perry's versions :-D

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:14 pm

Chrismo wrote:meh. it's ok. but doesn't beat perry's versions

I agree 100%. Didn't care for his vocals at all. Hiring Perry was the best thing they could have EVER done with this band.

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:50 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
Chrismo wrote:meh. it's ok. but doesn't beat perry's versions

I agree 100%. Didn't care for his vocals at all. Hiring Perry was the best thing they could have EVER done with this band.

I do RF vocals on For You (?), some great vocals on that.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:32 am

someone posted this 9 or 10 months ago.. i cant for the life of me remember who though..

Fleishman- Wheel in the Sky studio version

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 4D2685647C

by **7 Wishes** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:51 am

Unbelievable. How could they have fired a guy with pipes like Fleischman in exchange for a no-talent hack like Perry? I mean, Fleischman's unbelievable work on the first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album...especially the title track, invasion...

"Invasion!
You are armed with ecstasy!
Invasion!"

The man is an absolute genius. Journey could have gone places if they hadn't made the terrible mistake of firing him.

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:53 am

7 Wishes wrote:Unbelievable. How could they have fired a guy with pipes like Fleischman in exchange for a no-talent hack like Perry? I mean, Fleischman's unbelievable work on the first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album...especially the title track, invasion...

"Invasion!
You are armed with ecstasy!
Invasion!"

The man is an absolute genius. Journey could have gone places if they hadn't made the terrible mistake of firing him.

Worse than the JSS firing isnt it

I assume this is a tongue in cheek statement. .

by **stevew2** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:06 am

I had a billy Ray Cirus haircut before Billy Ray

G.I.Jim wrote:
Chrismo wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Fleishman also sang Winds of March and Anytime before SP was hired.

were any of his songs ever released?

I don't think so, but I've seen videos on Youtube with Fleishman singing those tunes. Here's him singing Winds of March...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSGM_pZwsmY

by **Loneman1** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:25 am

Chrismo wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Fleishman also sang Winds of March and Anytime before SP was hired.

were any of his songs ever released?

No official Journey songs were ever released album-wise with his vocals on them, but a song he had with Journey called "For You" was released on his solo album "Perfect Stranger" from '79 with the name "All For You". Neal and Gregg are both playing on the track. The Journey demo of it is featured on Time3.

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:52 am

Loneman1 wrote:
Chrismo wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Fleishman also sang Winds of March and Anytime before SP was hired.

were any of his songs ever released?

No official Journey songs were ever released album-wise with his vocals on them, but a song he had with Journey called "For You" was released on his solo album "Perfect Stranger" from '79 with the name "All For You". Neal and Gregg are both playing on the track. The Journey demo of it is featured on Time3.

As I understand it the Journey version of For You is the finished track, not the demo.

True not officially released until '92.

MR

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