CNN covers Pineda/Journey tale

[mriesenb]

know more about AP... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda
Aside from my doubts about his stage presence, I really hope he'll do a good job. Can't wait to see the DVD or seeing them live!

I'm actually wondering how the solo stuff and the Zoo cd sounds. Does anyone have them as a download somewhere? I'm really curious to hear how he performs on original songs.

[Soto All The Way]

No you are incorrect there YKMW. I have neither the time nor the patience to go round and round with another
'I've read your posts" but know zero about me assholes. Besides that, I promised Andrew that I would leave the lame ass BT'ers alone duirng his holiday break. But I do promise right here for all to see including Andrew that if this clown persists with the race card shit I will beat him/her down so fucking bad they will Never see the light of day again.

That's alright Chief, I didn't promise Drew anything "this" break.....I'll fuk him up for ya.....Consider it a Christmas present.....OH, and "Beshad", you are mine too for the Annex hiatas.......You're a fucking ass clown too.....

e-

oh Im yours now ? Get lost dude. Youre a day late and fifty IQ scores short dude.
Bitches like you will always be followers . Remember how you started of here by trying to be cool and attacking Dean but after he straightened you up you started licking his balls on a daily basis .
Now go fuck yourself .

I don't follow, I'm a leader fuck nutz. I lead players to state championships and national rankings so go fuck yourself....You caused plently of trouble for me and have yours coming....That's all I have to say dickweed...

e-

[Perrydise]

At this point I don't care how well they coach him to imitate Perry, it's all just disgusting to me. Any new music they do is still just a lame attempt to be something they haven't been since Perry left. At least now they're admitting they're nothing without him.

Agreed. And this YouTube thing has made them a joke. Correction. A bigger joke.

Bingo

[strangegrey]

Who gives a rat's ass about stage presence. When he starts singing Faithfully, Open Arms, etc, the chicks will melt, plain and simple. And seriously, do we really think he sounds EXACTLY like Perry? Cmon!!!! It's not even close, Arnel has a much more raw, powerful sound, where Perry was much more relaxed, softer, especially on the higher notes. Arnel is a gifted singer, no one who enjoys "melodic rock" can deny that. And as far as "melodic rock" goes, he just might be the best singer in this category in a long time.

Obviously not you...and not Assoff and the rest of the idiots responsible for decissions in Journey.

Sadly, the fact that stage presence is as important as singing ability, will become painfully obvious to them when they parade arnel out in front of actual fans.

It is the single most important thing for a singer to have. I don't care how wonderful his voice is. If he delivers it from behind a music stand, looking like a deer caught in headlights...he's going to turn away 3/4 of the fans within the first 12 bars.

You don't need my word to know this is true. I encourage you to wait until this tour goes flopsail within 4-5 dates. These days, it doesn't take an entire tour for a band to gain or destroy a live reputation. With youtube, it can be done in a few days. as soon as youtubes of Arnel reading off of a teleprompter get out there, it wont take long.


The very medium that Fucka and Fro used to find their singer will be the same medium that destroys the band. mark my words...

[Behshad]

No you are incorrect there YKMW. I have neither the time nor the patience to go round and round with another
'I've read your posts" but know zero about me assholes. Besides that, I promised Andrew that I would leave the lame ass BT'ers alone duirng his holiday break. But I do promise right here for all to see including Andrew that if this clown persists with the race card shit I will beat him/her down so fucking bad they will Never see the light of day again.

That's alright Chief, I didn't promise Drew anything "this" break.....I'll fuk him up for ya.....Consider it a Christmas present.....OH, and "Beshad", you are mine too for the Annex hiatas.......You're a fucking ass clown too.....

e-

oh Im yours now ? Get lost dude. Youre a day late and fifty IQ scores short dude.
Bitches like you will always be followers . Remember how you started of here by trying to be cool and attacking Dean but after he straightened you up you started licking his balls on a daily basis .
Now go fuck yourself .

I don't follow, I'm a leader fuck nutz. I lead players to state championships and national rankings so go fuck yourself....You caused plently of trouble for me and have yours coming....That's all I have to say dickweed...

e-

youre a born follower,,, barely that,,,,
the only state championship you ever will win, is the lowest IQ.
How the fuck did I cause you problems,,, trust me, you would know if I wanted to cause you any trouble.....youre like nobody to me,,,, and you will be a nobody on this board if you dont shut the fuck up and follow Andew's wishes. Knock it off, Now!

[Journey69]

Wasn't Neal and Jon's whole reason for picking Augeri was because they thought he sounded somewhat like Perry? I'm pretty sure I heard one, if not both of them say something to that effect, publically, when Augeri was brought into the band. Now, for what it's worth, I never thought Augeri sounded much like Perry. I thought Augeri was a good singer, but he simply couldn't come close to hitting the notes Perry hit. I guess it really shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone that Neal and Jon would try to find a Perry-sounding clone. Jon has made comments about getting closer to their "legacy" sound, and that can only mean one thing, when translated...PERRY!!!!!! I think they both thought Jeff was too far of a deviation from that signature sound, and that's why they went searching for a new hired hand!


John from Boston

All the people that say Augeri was trying to sound like Perry are reaching..Saying that Augeri didn't sing like he was born too..That is a load of crap!You can listen to Arrival,Red 13 and Generations and he does not try to sound like Perry..He sounds like himself..I listened to Tyketto and Tall Stories(wild on the run) He sounds the same with Journey,its complete BS.. All the touring probably strained his voice..It happens,just bad luck..

[donnaplease]

Wasn't Neal and Jon's whole reason for picking Augeri was because they thought he sounded somewhat like Perry? I'm pretty sure I heard one, if not both of them say something to that effect, publically, when Augeri was brought into the band. Now, for what it's worth, I never thought Augeri sounded much like Perry. I thought Augeri was a good singer, but he simply couldn't come close to hitting the notes Perry hit. I guess it really shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone that Neal and Jon would try to find a Perry-sounding clone. Jon has made comments about getting closer to their "legacy" sound, and that can only mean one thing, when translated...PERRY!!!!!! I think they both thought Jeff was too far of a deviation from that signature sound, and that's why they went searching for a new hired hand!


John from Boston

All the people that say Augeri was trying to sound like Perry are reaching..Saying that Augeri didn't sing like he was born too..That is a load of crap!You can listen to Arrival,Red 13 and Generations and he does not try to sound like Perry..He sounds like himself..I listened to Tyketto and Tall Stories(wild on the run) He sounds the same with Journey,its complete BS.. All the touring probably strained his voice..It happens,just bad luck..

"Perry with a perm..."

[Rick]

Wasn't Neal and Jon's whole reason for picking Augeri was because they thought he sounded somewhat like Perry? I'm pretty sure I heard one, if not both of them say something to that effect, publically, when Augeri was brought into the band. Now, for what it's worth, I never thought Augeri sounded much like Perry. I thought Augeri was a good singer, but he simply couldn't come close to hitting the notes Perry hit. I guess it really shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone that Neal and Jon would try to find a Perry-sounding clone. Jon has made comments about getting closer to their "legacy" sound, and that can only mean one thing, when translated...PERRY!!!!!! I think they both thought Jeff was too far of a deviation from that signature sound, and that's why they went searching for a new hired hand!


John from Boston

All the people that say Augeri was trying to sound like Perry are reaching..Saying that Augeri didn't sing like he was born too..That is a load of crap!You can listen to Arrival,Red 13 and Generations and he does not try to sound like Perry..He sounds like himself..I listened to Tyketto and Tall Stories(wild on the run) He sounds the same with Journey,its complete BS.. All the touring probably strained his voice..It happens,just bad luck..

Not sure about Tyketto, but his Tall Stories songs were a good bit lower in his register than the Journey material. He sounded way better singing the Tall Stories songs to me. I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

[Journey69]

Wasn't Neal and Jon's whole reason for picking Augeri was because they thought he sounded somewhat like Perry? I'm pretty sure I heard one, if not both of them say something to that effect, publically, when Augeri was brought into the band. Now, for what it's worth, I never thought Augeri sounded much like Perry. I thought Augeri was a good singer, but he simply couldn't come close to hitting the notes Perry hit. I guess it really shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone that Neal and Jon would try to find a Perry-sounding clone. Jon has made comments about getting closer to their "legacy" sound, and that can only mean one thing, when translated...PERRY!!!!!! I think they both thought Jeff was too far of a deviation from that signature sound, and that's why they went searching for a new hired hand!


John from Boston

All the people that say Augeri was trying to sound like Perry are reaching..Saying that Augeri didn't sing like he was born too..That is a load of crap!You can listen to Arrival,Red 13 and Generations and he does not try to sound like Perry..He sounds like himself..I listened to Tyketto and Tall Stories(wild on the run) He sounds the same with Journey,its complete BS.. All the touring probably strained his voice..It happens,just bad luck..

Not sure about Tyketto, but his Tall Stories songs were a good bit lower in his register than the Journey material. He sounded way better singing the Tall Stories songs to me. I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

I'm sure he tried to sound like Perry singing the dirty dozen on stage..I'm saying when he recorded the new ones he sounded like himself. That's why when he sang Higher Place in concert is sounded so much easier for him..

[Enigma869]

I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

Therein lies THE PROBLEM with the Journey catalog of music...It is out of almost everyone's range! Even though some might refer to it as "bad luck", I don't think luck factors into the equation. These are just VERY difficult songs to sing. As I said, with every new lead singer brought into this band, Perry's legacy continues to grow, because they're simply not going to find someone who did what Perry did (including Perry, at this point)!


John from Boston

[Rick]

Wasn't Neal and Jon's whole reason for picking Augeri was because they thought he sounded somewhat like Perry? I'm pretty sure I heard one, if not both of them say something to that effect, publically, when Augeri was brought into the band. Now, for what it's worth, I never thought Augeri sounded much like Perry. I thought Augeri was a good singer, but he simply couldn't come close to hitting the notes Perry hit. I guess it really shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone that Neal and Jon would try to find a Perry-sounding clone. Jon has made comments about getting closer to their "legacy" sound, and that can only mean one thing, when translated...PERRY!!!!!! I think they both thought Jeff was too far of a deviation from that signature sound, and that's why they went searching for a new hired hand!


John from Boston

All the people that say Augeri was trying to sound like Perry are reaching..Saying that Augeri didn't sing like he was born too..That is a load of crap!You can listen to Arrival,Red 13 and Generations and he does not try to sound like Perry..He sounds like himself..I listened to Tyketto and Tall Stories(wild on the run) He sounds the same with Journey,its complete BS.. All the touring probably strained his voice..It happens,just bad luck..

Not sure about Tyketto, but his Tall Stories songs were a good bit lower in his register than the Journey material. He sounded way better singing the Tall Stories songs to me. I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

I'm sure he tried to sound like Perry singing the dirty dozen on stage..I'm saying when he recorded the new ones he sounded like himself. That's why when he sang Higher Place in concert is sounded so much easier for him..

Gotcha, and I tend to agree.

[Rick]

I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

Therein lies THE PROBLEM with the Journey catalog of music...It is out of almost everyone's range! Even though some might refer to it as "bad luck", I don't think luck factors into the equation. These are just VERY difficult songs to sing. As I said, with every new lead singer brought into this band, Perry's legacy continues to grow, because they're simply not going to find someone who did what Perry did (including Perry, at this point)!


John from Boston

It can even be argued that it was out of Perry's range. I don't know if he sang his voice out, or just matured out of that range, as voices will change over a persons life span.

[Journey69]

Who gives a rat's ass about stage presence. When he starts singing Faithfully, Open Arms, etc, the chicks will melt, plain and simple. And seriously, do we really think he sounds EXACTLY like Perry? Cmon!!!! It's not even close, Arnel has a much more raw, powerful sound, where Perry was much more relaxed, softer, especially on the higher notes. Arnel is a gifted singer, no one who enjoys "melodic rock" can deny that. And as far as "melodic rock" goes, he just might be the best singer in this category in a long time.

Obviously not you...and not Assoff and the rest of the idiots responsible for decissions in Journey.

Sadly, the fact that stage presence is as important as singing ability, will become painfully obvious to them when they parade arnel out in front of actual fans.

It is the single most important thing for a singer to have. I don't care how wonderful his voice is. If he delivers it from behind a music stand, looking like a deer caught in headlights...he's going to turn away 3/4 of the fans within the first 12 bars.

You don't need my word to know this is true. I encourage you to wait until this tour goes flopsail within 4-5 dates. These days, it doesn't take an entire tour for a band to gain or destroy a live reputation. With youtube, it can be done in a few days. as soon as youtubes of Arnel reading off of a teleprompter get out there, it wont take long.


The very medium that Fucka and Fro used to find their singer will be the same medium that destroys the band. mark my words...

You can teach stage presence..Give me a break,I'm sure they have a pro helping him..Until we see them in concert..STFU! Oh that's right,about 3 of you won't support them anymore. Probably the 1st 3 who will own the new album.. Where is your avatar?

[Journey69]

I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

Therein lies THE PROBLEM with the Journey catalog of music...It is out of almost everyone's range! Even though some might refer to it as "bad luck", I don't think luck factors into the equation. These are just VERY difficult songs to sing. As I said, with every new lead singer brought into this band, Perry's legacy continues to grow, because they're simply not going to find someone who did what Perry did (including Perry, at this point)!


John from Boston

It can even be argued that it was out of Perry's range. I don't know if he sang his voice out, or just matured out of that range, as voices will change over a persons life span.

I'm thinking it was all the weed he was smoking..

[Journey69]

I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

Therein lies THE PROBLEM with the Journey catalog of music...It is out of almost everyone's range! Even though some might refer to it as "bad luck", I don't think luck factors into the equation. These are just VERY difficult songs to sing. As I said, with every new lead singer brought into this band, Perry's legacy continues to grow, because they're simply not going to find someone who did what Perry did (including Perry, at this point)!


John from Boston

Very good point and I agree.. Everyone's voice is unique,some of those songs can only be done in studio..ie something to hide,winds of march.. How many times did he have to try in the studio to get it right? Same with Brad Delp and More than a feeling..

[strangegrey]

You can teach stage presence..Give me a break,I'm sure they have a pro helping him..Until we see them in concert..STFU! Oh that's right,about 3 of you won't support them anymore. Probably the 1st 3 who will own the new album.. Where is your avatar?

Oh for fucks sake, what the hell do you know?

For the record, stage presence is *not* a skill...it's an art. You don't teach it. You beathe it. If you don't have it...you never will. You've obviously never stepped out onto a stage...

However, lets really stretch this far beyond reasonable comprehension and disbelief, lets assume that you're right. If you spend all the time trying to teach someone how to connect with an audience, you're not going to have any time left showing him flashcards so he doesn't have to use his music stand!

As for not supporting them anymore...learn to count fuckface...the numbers don't fall in your favor...at all. Go back to your padded cell and sit on your cat.

[Enigma869]

Very good point and I agree.. Everyone's voice is unique,some of those songs can only be done in studio..ie something to hide,winds of march.. How many times did he have to try in the studio to get it right? Same with Brad Delp and More than a feeling..

"More Than A Feeling" is the only song that I've EVER heard that vocally rivaled ANYTHING I ever heard out of Perry. I never heard Delp sing "More Than A Feeling" live (anyone have a version of this?), so I don't know if that was a studio only song. I always tell someone to listen to that particular song when they ask me what I mean by "soaring vocals"!


John from Boston

[Arnelian]

i don't think Arnel is going to have a DAVID LEE ROTH kind of stage presence, but he will have his presence felt. The least he can do is to move away from the mic stand more oftern than not. The youtube video is a typical club/restaurant/lounge scene back home where people don't participate wildly as it is here in the U.S. To do outragesous stage acts otherwise would look silly as the audience would most likey just look at you and maybe do 3 claps of hand . After, doing the songs night after night after night, you're just going through the motion of signing the night away and get paid. notice that at many of those videos, there are no audience in the front. I suspect that at some of those video shots, thre are hardly any people in there, and that relates to why the sound is good. It would have not been practical to get a better sound with background noises. Look carefully at the videos and the audience reactions, many of those instances there are no perceivable audience presence--so its looks really dull.

[Shadowsong]

Do you think they really care what any of us think.
When will we learn that we are wasting our breath
spending our precious time on this melodrama
Bet there all just having a good laugh
watching all of us running around blindly swinging in the air
like a bunch of chickens with there heads cut off

[strangegrey]

i don't think Arnel is going to have a DAVID LEE ROTH kind of stage presence, but he will have his presence felt. The least he can do is to move away from the mic stand more oftern than not. The youtube video is a typical club/restaurant/lounge scene back home where people don't participate wildly as it is here in the U.S. To do outragesous stage acts otherwise would look silly as the audience would most likey just look at you and maybe do 3 claps of hand . After, doing the songs night after night after night, you're just going through the motion of signing the night away and get paid. notice that at many of those videos, there are no audience in the front. I suspect that at some of those video shots, thre are hardly any people in there, and that relates to why the sound is good. It would have not been practical to get a better sound with background noises. Look carefully at the videos and the audience reactions, many of those instances there are no perceivable audience presence--so its looks really dull.

Stage Presence doesn't mean having to act like DLR. We're talking about connecting with the audience....irrespective of whether you're DLR, Freddie Mercury, David Coverdale, Jon Bon Jovi or Steve Perry. Arnel doesn't have it. You don't learn it....and Arnel wont learn it. Real fans see right through someone faking it.

The only ones left after the real fans run for the doors....are the ones locked in some false or alternate sense of reality.

You can kid yourself into thinking that arnel can learn this all you want. I suspect most arneliots are desperate to get their piece of journey before they explode into oblivion...and by bestowing some level of wishful thinking on this, they think they'll get a taste before it's all over.

It's called denial.

In this case denial is translated into a refusal to accept that it's over for this band...and they exploded into oblivion some time last spring....

[Lori Jo]

Arnel sings with his heart
He has a great voice

Close your eyes
You can see Steve in him
How vunerable & shy he was in the beginning.
Just a man with a voice inside that wanted to be heard

Come on give the guy a chance
This is his time in the spotlight
It doesn't happen to us very often
So let him enjoy the ride.

Very cool. I agree. Thanks for posting this!

[Arnelian]

Stage Presence doesn't mean having to act like DLR. We're talking about connecting with the audience....irrespective of whether you're DLR, Freddie Mercury, David Coverdale, Jon Bon Jovi or Steve Perry. Arnel doesn't have it. You don't learn it....and Arnel wont learn it. Real fans see right through someone faking it.

The only ones left after the real fans run for the doors....are the ones locked in some false or alternate sense of reality.

You can kid yourself into thinking that arnel can learn this all you want. I suspect most arneliots are desperate to get their piece of journey before they explode into oblivion...and by bestowing some level of wishful thinking on this, they think they'll get a taste before it's all over.

It's called denial.

In this case denial is translated into a refusal to accept that it's over for this band...and they exploded into oblivion some time last spring....

ha, ha! to be rudely honest, maybe many are just confident about his stage presence. You know, them asian guys take them challenges very professionally! He'll be fine!

[journeyrock]

I thought he did well in Journey, but to me he seemed just a bit out of his range.

Therein lies THE PROBLEM with the Journey catalog of music...It is out of almost everyone's range! Even though some might refer to it as "bad luck", I don't think luck factors into the equation. These are just VERY difficult songs to sing. As I said, with every new lead singer brought into this band, Perry's legacy continues to grow, because they're simply not going to find someone who did what Perry did (including Perry, at this point)!


John from Boston

Very good point and I agree.. Everyone's voice is unique,some of those songs can only be done in studio..ie something to hide,winds of march.. How many times did he have to try in the studio to get it right? Same with Brad Delp and More than a feeling..

If you are talking about Perry and "Winds of March", the very best version I have ever heard of that song was Perry live at the Houston Concert in 1980. He didn't have multiple tries at that one.

[Liquid_Drummer]

Perry was an anomaly vocally speaking. Obviously there are not many men in the world that have a powerful and clear high tenor like that because a name as big as Journey would have them crawling out of the woodwork yet there have only been a few that can pull it off. SA barley did it, JSS barley did it and Arnel sounds to me like he will have to change the way he sings because he is pushing way too much and a long tour will have him sounding like TBF Perry in no time. Dont get me wrong, I like all phases of Perry's voice but the only person I have heard sing these songs with conviction, the needed control to last and the correct timbre to their voice is Jason Kelty. Having seen him sing so many times I know for a fact that he should have been the guy from 98 on. I wish Arnel all the luck but I really think that if they tour with him it wont be very long before he starts ducking notes. I really would love to be wrong about this but I say no way he can belt like that for 2 hours every night without something giving out unless he is another "Glitch in the matrix" like Perry. It even took a toll on Perry. Such a huge difference between his voice in the bootlegs between 82 and 83. Escape being so huge put him on stage way too much and I will always believe that is the reason he sounds so different between Escape and Frontiers.. The band wondered why "Elvis had left the building" ? Duh, he couldnt do all nighters, drink and party like the rest of the guys and still sing like that everyday. DUh !

[wildone]

i don't think Arnel is going to have a DAVID LEE ROTH kind of stage presence, but he will have his presence felt. The least he can do is to move away from the mic stand more oftern than not. The youtube video is a typical club/restaurant/lounge scene back home where people don't participate wildly as it is here in the U.S. To do outragesous stage acts otherwise would look silly as the audience would most likey just look at you and maybe do 3 claps of hand . After, doing the songs night after night after night, you're just going through the motion of signing the night away and get paid. notice that at many of those videos, there are no audience in the front. I suspect that at some of those video shots, thre are hardly any people in there, and that relates to why the sound is good. It would have not been practical to get a better sound with background noises. Look carefully at the videos and the audience reactions, many of those instances there are no perceivable audience presence--so its looks really dull.

exactley DVH he's not.or stevea or steve p or...or...or... but we can dress him up to look the part!

[journey123]

Perry was an anomaly vocally speaking. Obviously there are not many men in the world that have a powerful and clear high tenor like that because a name as big as Journey would have them crawling out of the woodwork yet there have only been a few that can pull it off. SA barley did it, JSS barley did it and Arnel sounds to me like he will have to change the way he sings because he is pushing way too much and a long tour will have him sounding like TBF Perry in no time. Dont get me wrong, I like all phases of Perry's voice but the only person I have heard sing these songs with conviction, the needed control to last and the correct timbre to their voice is Jason Kelty. Having seen him sing so many times I know for a fact that he should have been the guy from 98 on. I wish Arnel all the luck but I really think that if they tour with him it wont be very long before he starts ducking notes. I really would love to be wrong about this but I say no way he can belt like that for 2 hours every night without something giving out unless he is another "Glitch in the matrix" like Perry. It even took a toll on Perry. Such a huge difference between his voice in the bootlegs between 82 and 83. Escape being so huge put him on stage way too much and I will always believe that is the reason he sounds so different between Escape and Frontiers.. The band wondered why "Elvis had left the building" ? Duh, he couldnt do all nighters, drink and party like the rest of the guys and still sing like that everyday. DUh !

He had a contract with one of the recording company in the Philippines. He played 4 hours straight, 5 days a week for about 7 years in a rock cafe in Hongkong. He had been singing in clubs since he was 15. Now at 40 he basically got 25 years experience singing the likes of Journey, Survivor etc... He had won International singing competitions.

But of course the Filipino accent will be there, just give him time to adapt and assimilate things.

[STORY_TELLER]

But of course the Filipino accent will be there, just give him time to adapt and assimilate things.

Exactly! C'mon guys, chill out. It won't take much time at all for him to lose his accent. Just look at Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[stevew2]

But of course the Filipino accent will be there, just give him time to adapt and assimilate things.

Exactly! C'mon guys, chill out. It won't take much time at all for him to lose his accent. Just look at Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Thats a good one, Id like to hear him sing Seperate Ways

[Rick]

But of course the Filipino accent will be there, just give him time to adapt and assimilate things.

Exactly! C'mon guys, chill out. It won't take much time at all for him to lose his accent. Just look at Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[journey123]

But of course the Filipino accent will be there, just give him time to adapt and assimilate things.

Exactly! C'mon guys, chill out. It won't take much time at all for him to lose his accent. Just look at Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I don't think he will completely loose his Pinoy accent mate. C'mon he's 40. And with America being so varied which accent would you like him to pick up eh? I'll teach him the proper English (British) accent instead.