OT: RIAA Claims: Making MP3's of CD's you OWN is Illegal

[T-Bone]

So all you turds will IPods are now "Criminals"


Lawyer: Ripping MP3s Illegal, Grounds for Lawsuit


Recording industry says illegal to transfer music from CD onto computer

[AR]

:roll: So all you turds will IPods are now "Criminals"


Lawyer: Ripping MP3s Illegal, Grounds for Lawsuit


Recording industry says illegal to transfer music from CD onto computer

Of course making cassette tapes from albums years ago was no problem though.

A bunch of suits who couldn't adjust their business model T - as I'm sure you know.

[johnroxx]

The RIAA can fucking blow me.

They are their own worst enemy.

;^)

[T-Bone]

Taking note that in one of the articles it said that in 4 years and 20,000 lawsuits, they've accomplished nothing, you'd think that they'd maybe find another way to go about it. The digital age is here and they're desperately grasping onto old-school technology. The money they're collecting from these lawsuits is basically going towards them fighting their losing battle. The bands and music they claim to be protecting are getting NOTHING

A while back, The webmaster on one of my other websites got a Cease and Desist letter from them for 30 second, low quality samples he had posted to help bands advertise. Bands that aren't even represented by the RIAA! These assclowns are really overstretching their boundries lately.

As for MP3's, I have almost all of my 1400 CD's ripped into my computer, because it's alot easier for me to hit Random Play on my music player rather than to dick around with the stereo and switching CD's over and over. Seriously... If that's now illegal, then arrest me

On top of everything else, I also make CDR's of my CD's to save the wear and tear on them. I also make CDR's of stuff so I can omit tunes that I may not care for and make compilations and MP3's Compilation CDR's for the truck so I don't have to listen to the stuff I really don't want to hear. Also, if my vehicle is ever stolen or burglarized, the shitwads will get worthless CDR's instead of my REAL cd's

[Rick]

This what they had to say further about copying music to your computer.

....that making a personal copy of a CD that you bought legitimately may not be a legal right, but it "won't usually raise concerns," as long as you don't give away the music or lend it to anyone.

Still, I don't see how they can say that copying music you've bought for personal use only is illegal. I copy software I've bought for my own use, it's called a back up copy. They need to quit pretending to be law makers. All of these threats they're making are as empty as their heads. None of this will be determined until law makers say one way or another what is legal or not. It'll have to be fought out in court.

[Rockindeano]

The RIAA can fucking blow me.

They are their own worst enemy.

;^)

You have arrived bro. I remember you railed against expletive laced posts. Now you are a real creative cussing genius.

[Rip Rokken]

Here's an article that seems to claim otherwise -- just ran across this:

Bronfman Gives Away the Store

As of last Friday, Warner M. Group (the M stands for madness) handed over 2.9 million tracks — their entire catalog — to Amazon.com’s MP3 service. The tracks can be bought and downloaded for 89 cents.

Because they’re not protected by DRM, Digital Rights Management, the songs — by everyone from The Eagles to Prince, Aretha Franklin, Neil Young and Led Zeppelin — can then be copied and redistributed to anyone, anywhere. They will play on any MP3 player. They can be burned, ripped and reproduced -- all for free.

For WMG’s chief Edgar Bronfman, this is called a strategy.

It’s also called schizophrenia. You see, last Feb. 8, Bronfman gave speech decrying the end of DRM.

"We advocate the continued use of DRM," he told a conference. "The notion that music does not deserve the same protection as software, film, video games or other intellectual property, simply because there is an unprotected legacy product in the physical world, is completely without logic or merit."

OK, so he lied. What else is new? WMG’s stock is at $6.10 Monday morning. It reached a new low -- below $6 -- last week, rebounded a little and may yet take a further dive today. Bronfman has killed Warner Music and pretty much set fire to the record business. It’s a legacy that can’t be beat.

What happened here? One theory is that he wanted to thwart Apple’s iTunes — which still carries DRM on most tracks and prevents their downloaded music from being easily transferred to other systems. Another is that he was taking a cue from Universal Music, which gave a lot of their music to Amazon earlier this year.

Either way, Bronfman has clearly demonstrated he doesn’t care one whit about the legacy artists who are stuck with WMG for life. Many of them — especially those on Atlantic/Rhino — are dependent on CD sales for mechanical royalties.

The bulk of that group didn’t write their own songs, so CD sales are still important. By turning over the catalog without DRM, Bronfman has ensured that CD sales will almost instantly dry up and turn to dust.

At the same time, he’s carved the greatest-hits albums of his artists into 89 cent singles. If you wanted one or two hits in the past, you had to buy an entire album. Now more than ever, even with iTunes, the albums are divisible.

Now, the songs can be redistributed at will, over and over. Atlantic’s late chief, Ahmet Ertegun, is no doubt rolling in his grave. In particular, his R&B stars — from Ruth Brown to Sam & Dave to the Drifters — will suffer the most.

I can’t imagine that the lawyers for Eric Clapton, Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, Prince and so on, can be happy about any of this. Without DRM, those acts can also kiss off their own future CD sales. Even if they were minor, they were something.

Now only the Beatles remain absent from the legal downloading world. I can’t see one reason why they would want to give in at this point. Better to make fans buy their CDs than diminish their own recorded catalog.

Bet some of those artists are ticked off!

[X factor]

:roll: So all you turds will IPods are now "Criminals"


Lawyer: Ripping MP3s Illegal, Grounds for Lawsuit


Recording industry says illegal to transfer music from CD onto computer

From your article:

"Copying a song you've paid for in CD form is "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy,'" Sony BMG top lawyer Jennifer Pariser testified during cross-examination in the Jammie Thomas case in early October."

These fuckers SO need to get a life. This just REEKS of Record Company desperation! What utter fucking bullshit!!!!

...yeah, I've had a few tonight...

[journeyrock]

:roll: So all you turds will IPods are now "Criminals"


Lawyer: Ripping MP3s Illegal, Grounds for Lawsuit


Recording industry says illegal to transfer music from CD onto computer

So sue me! I wouldn't give up my ipod music for nuthin........LOL

They need to find something better to do with their time.

[Rick]

:roll: So all you turds will IPods are now "Criminals"


Lawyer: Ripping MP3s Illegal, Grounds for Lawsuit


Recording industry says illegal to transfer music from CD onto computer

So sue me! I wouldn't give up my ipod music for nuthin........LOL

They need to find something better to do with their time.

They're all too busy running around in circles trying to sue people but are just chasing their own tails.

[nikki]

The RIAA can kiss my ass....who the hell are they to tell people what they can and can't do with something they've already bought and paid for?!? Never would've thought I could get in trouble for listening to a damn song. The internet has ruined music and the music business in so many ways. Leave it to big business to come up with great ideas to suck the joy out of living for all of us!

[journeyrock]

:roll: So all you turds will IPods are now "Criminals"


Lawyer: Ripping MP3s Illegal, Grounds for Lawsuit


Recording industry says illegal to transfer music from CD onto computer

So sue me! I wouldn't give up my ipod music for nuthin........LOL

They need to find something better to do with their time.

They're all too busy running around in circles trying to sue people but are just chasing their own tails.

What a visual

[Rick]

The RIAA can kiss my ass....who the hell are they to tell people what they can and can't do with something they've already bought and paid for?!? Never would've thought I could get in trouble for listening to a damn song. The internet has ruined music and the music business in so many ways. Leave it to big business to come up with great ideas to suck the joy out of living for all of us!

It's hurt music for sure, but it's helped us I think. I think because of the internet we are seeing the old classic bands touring more. It's what they have to do to make money now, but what better way is there than getting out there and earning it? They still make a pile of money off of tours.

[yulog]

Most southern states say oral sex is illegal,that never stop me from getting that either

[journeyrock]

The RIAA can kiss my ass....who the hell are they to tell people what they can and can't do with something they've already bought and paid for?!? Never would've thought I could get in trouble for listening to a damn song. The internet has ruined music and the music business in so many ways. Leave it to big business to come up with great ideas to suck the joy out of living for all of us!

It's hurt music for sure, but it's helped us I think. I think because of the internet we are seeing the old classic bands touring more. It's what they have to do to make money now, but what better way is there than getting out there and earning it? They still make a pile of money off of tours.

How about quit getting married and divorced!!!!

[mikemarrs]

i've bought this shit on album first,then cassette and finally CD.so if i wanna make copies of something i'll fucking do it.these greedy asses are getting what they deserve.they've ripped consumers off forever now that tide finally turned in our favor.karma is a bitch......

[Arkansas]

scenario1: a friend borrows an album - is this theft by their def?
scenario2: a friend borrows an album and rips a copy - are you responsible for his 'theft'?
scenario3: a friend borrows an album and rips/burns a copy for another friend - are you responsible for that 'theft'?



later~

[MCM]

i've bought this shit on album first,then cassette and finally CD.so if i wanna make copies of something i'll fucking do it.these greedy asses are getting what they deserve.they've ripped consumers off forever now that tide finally turned in our favor.karma is a bitch......

AGREED!!! Some of us have purched certain artists on 8Track, Album, Cassette, CD, Remastered CD, Remastered CD from the original tapes, Remastered on the box set with an previously unrelease song/version, etc.... I think that makes it o.k for me to dump my CD's onto my MP3 so I no longer have to carry boxes of CD's around with me.. on the floor of the car... stuck between the seats...

[conversationpc]

I don't have the hard drive capacity right now but once I do, I will be ripping all my CDs to an audio file of some kind (MP3, MPA, etc.). There's not one good reason I shouldn't be able to do so.

[Rip Rokken]

I don't have the hard drive capacity right now but once I do, I will be ripping all my CDs to an audio file of some kind (MP3, MPA, etc.). There's not one good reason I shouldn't be able to do so.

I completely agree that this is foolishness, and makes no sense. Don't even know if there is a legal precedence for it, and the Warner Bros. article I posted above seems to contradict what the RIAA says you can do with your own music. Still, my concern is how a court would see it, especially with weaselly attorneys steering the proceedings. I've heard of some cases where parents and got whopped with HUGE fines for downloads they didn't even do. I think in one case, it was a houseguest, like an exchange student or something, but it got tracked to their IP -- they were held responsible and got something like a $40,000 fine.

Absolute foolishness, but it happens, and that's my fear. I'm pretty happy with my CDs for now.

[Greg]

The RIAA is illegal themselves. On their website, their "LAW" states:

It’s also okay to copy music onto special Audio CD-R’s, mini-discs, and digital tapes (because royalties have been paid on them) – but, again, not for commercial purposes.
http://www.riaa.com/physicalpiracy.php?content_selector=piracy_online_the_law

And then they turn around and sue people for doing what they say is ok to do? This stuff will not hold up in a court of law.

[Rockindeano]

Most southern states say oral sex is illegal,that never stop me from getting that either

Hey, I think it's cool to have such a willing sister.

[Greg]

Most southern states say oral sex is illegal,that never stop me from getting that either

Hey, I think it's cool to have such a willing sister.

Zzzzinnnnnng!

[Rip Rokken]

Most southern states say oral sex is illegal,that never stop me from getting that either

Hey, I think it's cool to have such a willing sister.

Zzzzinnnnnng!

Haha... Might want to check the Sodomy laws, too.

[T-Bone]

Most southern states say oral sex is illegal,that never stop me from getting that either

Is that why your breath smells like dick?

[lowdbrent]

:roll: So all you turds will IPods are now "Criminals"


Lawyer: Ripping MP3s Illegal, Grounds for Lawsuit


Recording industry says illegal to transfer music from CD onto computer

Of course making cassette tapes from albums years ago was no problem though.

A bunch of suits who couldn't adjust their business model T - as I'm sure you know.

No, it was a problem. The RIAA and artists WERE concerned about it. This is when the RIAA imposed a royalty on all bulk cassette tapes sold to be paid to the artists. Copying LPs, Reel to Reel, other cassettes and terestrial radio (that is what that funky filter was for on your older receivers: to remove the high-end noise of FM when recording) was a concern. The industry said the same thing of cassette that os now said of the MP3. It is consumer controled, portable, and less fidelic than LPs (and later CDs), but we are losing money. They were right.

That same royalty was rolled over to bulk CD-Rs. You may not see it as often now, but there used to be a distinct marketing of "Music" CD-Rs and "Data" CD-Rs. They were identical, except for the cost. The data were almost always cheaper by a few cents because of the royalty paid for music duplication.

The law is written so that this lawyer has a case. What will be argued is what is an acceptable "back-up" for music. We back up data and MS, Apple and other software companies don't charge for those.

Personally, I think that the RIAA is only representing a few big artists, and mostly the attornies of the major labels. That is who populates the board. I think that they have sealed their fate. I am all for the artist getting what is owed to them. But some of this RIAA stuff stinks of communism.

[Arkansas]

A little different take...

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industr ... -legal-cds


later~

[larryfromnextdoor]

Most southern states say oral sex is illegal,that never stop me from getting that either

Is that why your breath smells like dick?

ive been waiting 2 days for a reply to this.... ... heheheheehehehehehehehahhahahahahahahaha