Stage Presence DOES matter!

by **Arnelian** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:51 am

No matter what is introduced, there will always be something againts arnel---if not stage presence, it is charisma, and maybe next time it is going to be the sex appeal.

Here is a poorly done clip of arnel in that bar with more stage presence. He is a chameleon, just when you think he doesn't have it, then he shows you. not a good song to take though!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWXeBn4R08

by **wildone** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:03 am

Arnelian wrote:No matter what is introduced, there will always be something againts arnel---if not stage presence, it is charisma, and maybe next time it is going to be the sex appeal

Here is a poorly done clip of arnel in that bar with more stage presence. He is a chameleon, just when you think he doesn't have it, then he shows you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWXeBn4R08

Come on but you use Elvis and Perry come on if he was anywhere near there league he would've been heard of a lot sooner then this ....There grasping at straws...and there gonna lose.

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:04 am

Arnelian wrote:No matter what is introduced, there will always be something againts arnel---

Not true at all.

Just iron those legitimate diction issues out and we are a "go."

by **Vladan** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:07 am

Arnelian wrote:No matter what is introduced, there will always be something againts arnel---if not stage presence, it is charisma, and maybe next time it is going to be the sex appeal

Here is a poorly done clip of arnel in that bar with more stage presence. He is a chameleon, just when you think he doesn't have it, then he shows you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWXeBn4R08

I think my ears are bleeding. It is true what they say... when people try and cover Queen, they either make it or break it.

by **Panther** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:19 am

pedro wrote:A friend sent me this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZccz5cy3ks
The Koreans reactions were hilarious

Ellen Degeneres was so impressed she invited the girl to perform on the show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5TafXFY ... re=related

Maybe AP could use a bit of coaching from this girl.

Holy Crap! (out of my son's mouth and I agree wholeheartedly) While we sit here debating, arguing and carrying on about Journey, other bands and their shenanigans these kids are out there with these stunning voices. They've more power, passion and sheer will than 90% of the bands out there today. Dayum... are these kids born with a reincarnated soul or what?

by **Arnelian** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:20 am

i don't think he sounded good either. not about the song though!

by **texafana** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:33 am

Arnelian wrote:No matter what is introduced, there will always be something againts arnel---if not stage presence, it is charisma, and maybe next time it is going to be the sex appeal

Here is a poorly done clip of arnel in that bar with more stage presence. He is a chameleon, just when you think he doesn't have it, then he shows you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWXeBn4R08

Oh dear god, I had to turn that off. That beginning is just horrible. Yikes... that's the worst I've ever seen of Arnel, from the diction to the singing. yikes...

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:38 am

If Arnel P is as good as Charice, then this could indeed be a genius move. You all see her? Incredible. She had NO diction issues, no stage presence issues. I liken her to a young Celine Dion./ Very very good.

by **Arnelian** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:39 am

yeah, that girl is a prodigy!

by **wildone** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:40 am

quote="Rockindeano"]If Arnel P is as good as Charice, then this could indeed be a genius move. You all see her? Incredible. She had NO diction issues, no stage presence issues. I liken her to a young Celine Dion./ Very very good.[/quote] :shock:

are you turning over a new leaf this yerar deano??? :lol:

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:45 am

I always knew this guy was superb. Now, after listening to this tune, I am officially sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbQQdX7 ... re=related

Led Zeppelin.

Fuck, hate to say it, but I think he will be rather successful. He is amazing doing these covers. From BA, to Bon Jovi to Survivor to Zeppelin. He sounds as good as the original, and yes donna, he DOES have a stage presence.

by **SteveForever** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:17 am

Rockindeano wrote:I always knew this guy was superb. Now, after listening to this tune, I am officially sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbQQdX7 ... re=related

Led Zeppelin.

Fuck, hate to say it, but I think he will be rather successful. He is amazing doing these covers. From BA, to Bon Jovi to Survivor to Zeppelin. He sounds as good as the original, and yes donna, he DOES have a stage presence.

Arnel is going to have no problems.

by **lparn** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:50 am

Have seen Steve Perry in the 80's and Steve Augeri many times and only JSS once.
However, I will agree that stage presence does matter.
You can have thebest voice in the world, and if you cannot bring the crowd in, make eye contact,
sing to people and show emotion and feeling in what you are singing it does not matter.
I am sure there are some that will not agree, and that is cool too, however for me,
Steve Augeri had that and understood that and that is why he won over the hearts of the fans,
Unfortunately for Arnel, the way things were handled by the band with both JSS and Steve Augeri,
it will be an uphill battle for him, and many might not be willing to give him a chance.

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:52 am

Stage Presence does NOT matter one iota. Ever seen Celine Dion live? Jesus Christ. The voice will make you not want her to move it's so good.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:27 am

Rockindeano wrote:I always knew this guy was superb. Now, after listening to this tune, I am officially sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbQQdX7 ... re=related

Led Zeppelin.

Fuck, hate to say it, but I think he will be rather successful. He is amazing doing these covers. From BA, to Bon Jovi to Survivor to Zeppelin. He sounds as good as the original, and yes donna, he DOES have a stage presence.

wow!! that was great.. and look at the crowd.. NOTHING from them.. if folks saw that kinda rockin performance around here..they would freak out ,, be dancing and hollering.. man .. that band was tight there..

by **donnaplease** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:40 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I always knew this guy was superb. Now, after listening to this tune, I am officially sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbQQdX7 ... re=related

Led Zeppelin.

Fuck, hate to say it, but I think he will be rather successful. He is amazing doing these covers. From BA, to Bon Jovi to Survivor to Zeppelin. He sounds as good as the original, and yes donna, he DOES have a stage presence.

wow!! that was great.. and look at the crowd.. NOTHING from them.. if folks saw that kinda rockin performance around here..they would freak out ,, be dancing and hollering.. man .. that band was tight there..

I still need to disagree with you there, Dean. I do agree that he has an amazing voice. It's extraordinary the way he channels whoever he is covering. I hate his stage presence, though. I think I would be pissed if I paid a couple hundred dollars for an ILAA ticket, sat in the front row, and the singer never acted like I was there. I want a singer that connects with his audience. I just don't see that with Arnel. I also don't think he looks natural when he jumps around. He doesn't seem to be comfortable on the stage, which is a shame because he does have a great voice.

Here's a question... does anyone think he might get bored just singing Journey music? He has covered a LOT of different bands...well. I wonder if he will tire of only singing Journey music (the dirty dozen at that, because new album or not, I believe past experience has shown us that they will in fact be singing the DD primarily).

Responses???

by **RedWingFan** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:48 am

Rockindeano wrote:Stage Presence does NOT matter one iota. Ever seen Celine Dion live? Jesus Christ. The voice will make you not want her to move it's so good.

Exactly! Except instead of Celine Dion I was thinking more along the lines of Martina McBride. I don't really dig country but I love her.

by **chf34jmac** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:58 am

Celine Dion!? Come on. Really that voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me. Not to mention she looks like someone tried to ass fuck her head. There is a reason she is a Vegas lounge act already in her career.

by **Saint John** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:03 pm

chf34jmac wrote:Celine Dion!? Come on. Really that voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me. Not to mention she looks like someone tried to ass fuck her head. There is a reason she is a Vegas lounge act already in her career.

by **BobbyinTN** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:33 pm

Well, for me running from end to end of the stage and all around it does little. I'm interested in HEARING the sound, the live sound of a band, and while some might call me a "stick in the mud", I'm not one for standing up, pumping fist and jumping up and down while the music plays, I never have been, I just want to hear it, soak it in and remember it, not the pot smokers or the drunks in front of me who'd rather BE seen than see.

by **BobbyinTN** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:35 pm

Anyone that thinks Celine Dion can't sing is tone deaf, PERIOD!

You might not like her voice, or he looks, but she is one of the best vocalists I've ever heard and one of the best of any era.

by **chf34jmac** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:42 pm

She fucking blows and that is my opinion! You can attempt to argue that all you want but it is still my opinion of her and her abilities.

by **pedro** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:57 pm

If AP is the complete package, his amazing voice plus a very good stage presence and no accent issue whatsoever, would anyone think AP will settle for an aging band like Journey? I think not. All is fair and no one is being shortchanged on both sides.

by **chf34jmac** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:59 pm

For his sake (and this is probably the first and last time you'll hear me say anything positive about the guy) I hope he bails on them before they buttfuck him when they are done with him.

by **donnaplease** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:59 pm

pedro wrote:If AP is the complete package, his amazing voice plus a very good stage presence and no accent issue whatsoever, would anyone think AP will settle for an aging band like Journey? I think not. All is fair and no one is being shortchanged on both sides.

So, are you saying that he is NOT everything that his cheerleaders (Well, Sybil and her 27 personalities anyway...) claim he is?

by **pedro** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:04 pm

donnaplease wrote:
pedro wrote:If AP is the complete package, his amazing voice plus a very good stage presence and no accent issue whatsoever, would anyone think AP will settle for an aging band like Journey? I think not. All is fair and no one is being shortchanged on both sides.

So, are you saying that he is NOT everything that his cheerleaders (Well, Sybil and her 27 personalities anyway...) claim he is?

I have no way of proving that. We have to wait and see with an open mind.

by **wildone** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:06 pm

donnaplease wrote:
pedro wrote:If AP is the complete package, his amazing voice plus a very good stage presence and no accent issue whatsoever, would anyone think AP will settle for an aging band like Journey? I think not. All is fair and no one is being shortchanged on both sides.

So, are you saying that he is NOT everything that his cheerleaders (Well, Sybil and her 27 personalities anyway...) claim he is?

Come on this whole thing is going down like a .50cent whore you watch ...then they'll try to regroup again yada yada yada....as the stomach turns....the ship is sinking.....

by **chf34jmac** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:10 pm

I would like to ask a serious question to all of the AP cheerleaders if I can.

If the youtube clips were good enough for the midget guitar god to proclaim AP the "real deal" and hire him as the new frontman, then why aren't these clips good enough for those of us that don't like the guy? Why should I have to "wait and see, or give him a chance" I am looking at EXACTLY the same videos that Neal did on youtube.

by **Deb** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:13 pm

RedWingFan wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Stage Presence does NOT matter one iota. Ever seen Celine Dion live? Jesus Christ. The voice will make you not want her to move it's so good.

Exactly! Except instead of Celine Dion I was thinking more along the lines of Martina McBride. I don't really dig country but I love her.

Couldn't agree more RWF........not much into country either but that gal can sing circles around just about anybody. Some of the most stunning pipes I've heard, right up there with Pat Benatar. When she lets it rip in this video almost gives ya the chills..........GREAT voice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LZr98jHW7U

by **Blueskies** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:14 pm

Rockindeano wrote:I always knew this guy was superb. Now, after listening to this tune, I am officially sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbQQdX7 ... re=related

Led Zeppelin.

Fuck, hate to say it, but I think he will be rather successful. He is amazing doing these covers. From BA, to Bon Jovi to Survivor to Zeppelin. He sounds as good as the original, and yes donna, he DOES have a stage presence.

I've finally been checking out some more of this guys videos....I've been concentrating more on listening to his voice rather then paying attention to stage presence... due to the setting where many of the vids were filmed, I don't think he can be fairly judged just based on them. The Led Zep you linked shows some energy... I think this one shows even more that he does and can have energy and stage presence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrwKZv7LBMw

MR

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