OT: Why I HATE Fox News

[Rockindeano]

Olberman is just as bad as the aforementioned individuals and the so-called "mistakes" he catches by O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., are often nothing more than out-of-context, Michael Moore style cut and paste jobs.

Well, screw him, then! I'll watch a few of his shows, and if he starts that crap, I'll discard him like a dirty diaper.

No, Keith is NOT as bad or nearly as bad as anyone on Fox. Keith just busts those lying assholes and Conversationpc doesn't like that.

[Ms_M]

I will again agree with Dean about Olbermann. If you haven't watched him yet, Rip, do watch him. He is funny and gives Billo (his name for him) a ration of shit just about every night. His Worst Persons in the World is hilarious!!!

I've seen only bits of him, and not even enough to remember what he looks like. I think I will begin watching his show immediately, and thanks for the tip.

I hope you enjoy Olbermann... Let me know what you think!!

[conversationpc]

Olberman is just as bad as the aforementioned individuals and the so-called "mistakes" he catches by O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., are often nothing more than out-of-context, Michael Moore style cut and paste jobs.

Well, screw him, then! I'll watch a few of his shows, and if he starts that crap, I'll discard him like a dirty diaper.

No, Keith is NOT as bad or nearly as bad as anyone on Fox. Keith just busts those lying assholes and Conversationpc doesn't like that.

I could not care less if he "busts" them when they deserve it because I don't care for most of those who have been mentioned in this thread. Anyway, he certainly IS just as bad and he is just as biased as the others mentioned in this thread. If he weren't, you libs wouldn't love him so much.

[Rockindeano]

Olberman is just as bad as the aforementioned individuals and the so-called "mistakes" he catches by O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., are often nothing more than out-of-context, Michael Moore style cut and paste jobs.

Well, screw him, then! I'll watch a few of his shows, and if he starts that crap, I'll discard him like a dirty diaper.

No, Keith is NOT as bad or nearly as bad as anyone on Fox. Keith just busts those lying assholes and Conversationpc doesn't like that.

I could not care less if he "busts" them when they deserve it because I don't care for most of those who have been mentioned in this thread. Anyway, he certainly IS just as bad and he is just as biased as the others mentioned in this thread. If he weren't, you libs wouldn't love him so much.

Dave, do 100% agree he is biased, or is he just fed up like so many others? He (and Abrams too), rightfully takes these lying republicans to task.

[Rip Rokken]

I hope you enjoy Olbermann... Let me know what you think!!

I'm about to YouTube some of him right now... Was about to take a bath, but the wife snuck one in before me and ran out the hot water. I have a few minutes to kill...

[Rip Rokken]

I hope you enjoy Olbermann... Let me know what you think!!

Ok, watched a few clips, and have to say, I can't stand him for many of the same reasons I can't stand the Fox people I gripe about. He doesn't come off as sincere to me, and doesn't deliver well... It's like he's reading strictly off the teleprompter, but not well, so he comes off as very artificial to me, at least in the clips I watched. To be honest, many of those other networks' answers to O'Reilly's show have come off the same. I just prefer straight-talking people... Fred Barnes is a good example that I mentioned before. I don't like a lot of theatrics and stuff, and hunger for substantive information and discourse. If I can't find that, I usually will just watch Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert because at least they don't hide the fact that they are performers. No offense if you like him! I just wouldn't be able to take him seriously, even if he does make decent points.

[Rip Rokken]

By the way, I read an article today that the N.H. Republican Party is dropping their connection to Fox's debate, primarily due to their refusal to allow Ron Paul to participate. They consider N.H. a more open field where lesser known candidates can get their voice heard. They mention also the fact that Paul is bigger than Fred Thompson, and this article echoes many of the thoughts my political strategist friend was sharing with me the other day. Good article:

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Fox_ ... 62034.html

I hope Fox News eventually implodes... Would love to see it happen.

[Perrydise]

But back to CNN...That Int'l reporter Christine Amapor or something like that, who is very good, but goddamned if dogs don't look down when they hump her leg. Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper are top notch, just an Earth's crust difference than Geraldo Rivera. That guy is complete joke.

Once again Dean LMFAO with tears.

Christianne Amanpour is the tops as far as women in network news. She is about her career, the news around the world, not which lipstick looks better on her while on TV. This is one woman who has succeeded in a male based news world. While she informs she is also educating and that says alot. The rest of them are all eye candy trying to make bad news sound pleasing.

[Enigma869]

Christianne Amanpour is the tops as far as women in network news. She is about her career, the news around the world, not which lipstick looks better on her while on TV. This is one woman who has succeeded in a male based news world. While she informs she is also educating and that says alot. The rest of them are all eye candy trying to make bad news sound pleasing.

I wouldn't fuck Christianne Amanpour with a stolen dick! That said, I agree that she is SUPERB! She does some pieces for 60 Minutes and has been on CNN, forever. The woman just epitomizes credibility!


John from Boston

[conversationpc]

Things I hate about Fox News...

• Bill O'Reilly...I actually like his show, for the most part, but can you be any more self serving? Well, I guess he could be as bad as Michael Savage but it still gets under my skin. How many times do you have to mention that you're the number one news show? How many times do you have to play that phony tough guy thing about the others who are "hiding under their desk"? Give me a break.
• Hannity & Colmes...Can there be two hosts that suck any more than these two? Hannity merely wants to argue and blame everything on liberals. Colmes is a dunderhead that can't keep his facts straight.
• Greta Van Susteren...Next to Larry King and Nancy Grace, she has the most boring show on television. She's a one-trick pony. How many times can you do a show on a dead celebrity or a teen-screwing teacher?
• Brit Hume...Seems like a nice guy but he fumbles his words almost as often and possibly more than President Bush.
• Fox and Friends...I like the hosts but the whole setting is just sophomoric.
• Cut all the selacious stories...No one wants to hear ad infinitum about Britney showing her vagina or how some stupid celebrity got blitzed in public again. South Park conservative seems to be the best description of Fox News in general.

[squirt1]

I love it when Alan Combs neck veins stick out. Really they give both sides and hack it out,not hash it out.

[Rockindeano]

Bill O in trouble.....

(CNN) — Fox News talk show host Bill O'Reilly had a confrontation with a staffer for Barack Obama’s campaign that the aide and several eyewitnesses claim became physical.

The incident began when O’Reilly tried to get Obama’s attention after a Nashua campaign event. He allegedly began yelling at Obama’s National Trip Director Marvin Nicholson to get out of the way. O’Reilly then, according to eyewitness accounts, shoved the staffer.

Nicholson told CNN O'Reilly grabbed him by the arm and started "pushing" him. Nicholson also said that when he asked O'Reilly to stop pushing him, the talk-show host responded that he was "low class."

O’Reilly soon got Obama’s attention, and the two men spoke briefly.

"They shook hands and Mr. O'Reilly said that he thought Sen. Obama was great and that he loved him, and he'd love to have him on the show," Nicholson said. "And then the senator said that he would think about coming on the show after the primaries."

Then the Secret Service intervened to ask O’Reilly to step back behind the barricade that marked the press area.

Speaking later on Fox News, O'Reilly said he tried to "gently remove" the Obama staffer so his camera could get a shot of the Illinois senator.

"We're sorry we had to have that little confrontation," O'Reilly added, "but no one on this earth is going to block a shot on The O'Reilly Factor. It is not going to happen.

Dude, come California time, IK will definitely mess with this giant piece of garbage...watch me.

[Deb]

Greta Van Susteren...Next to Larry King and Nancy Grace, she has the most boring show on television. She's a one-trick pony. How many times can you do a show on a dead celebrity or a teen-screwing teacher?

Nancy Grace, gawd I can't even stand it for 1/2 a second when I accidently land on that channel when she is on. Her voice and just about everything about her annoys me more than any other tv personality.

[Rip Rokken]

Things I hate about Fox News...

• Bill O'Reilly...I actually like his show, for the most part, but can you be any more self serving? Well, I guess he could be as bad as Michael Savage but it still gets under my skin. How many times do you have to mention that you're the number one news show? How many times do you have to play that phony tough guy thing about the others who are "hiding under their desk"? Give me a break.
• Hannity & Colmes...Can there be two hosts that suck any more than these two? Hannity merely wants to argue and blame everything on liberals. Colmes is a dunderhead that can't keep his facts straight.
• Greta Van Susteren...Next to Larry King and Nancy Grace, she has the most boring show on television. She's a one-trick pony. How many times can you do a show on a dead celebrity or a teen-screwing teacher?
• Brit Hume...Seems like a nice guy but he fumbles his words almost as often and possibly more than President Bush.
• Fox and Friends...I like the hosts but the whole setting is just sophomoric.
• Cut all the selacious stories...No one wants to hear ad infinitum about Britney showing her vagina or how some stupid celebrity got blitzed in public again. South Park conservative seems to be the best description of Fox News in general.

Looks like we agree almost 100%, except I've always liked Brit Hume. Forgot to mention him! At least he seems very genuine.

[Rip Rokken]

Bill O in trouble.....

That version had a little more detail than the link I posted earlier. Yeah, the guy is a blowhard and a jackass. But I did learn that he's 6' 5"... wow!

[The_Noble_Cause]

By the way, I read an article today that the N.H. Republican Party is dropping their connection to Fox's debate, primarily due to their refusal to allow Ron Paul to participate.

Amazingly, when Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel were banned from recent debates, the DNC claimed they were absolutely powerless and proceeded to do nothing.
There in a nutshell, lies the difference between the Repubs and the Dems.

Push comes to shove, the Repubs will nearly always protect their own.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Olberman is just as bad as the aforementioned individuals and the so-called "mistakes" he catches by O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., are often nothing more than out-of-context, Michael Moore style cut and paste jobs.

Bullshit.
I hear Rush, Glenn and all the mini-McCarthys recite this tale of woe sooo often.
Here's a novel idea, if all these Right wing hacks are being "misquoted", why don't they simply re-play themselves back in context?
How come O’Reilly merely re-assures his audience that the comments he made regarding a Harlem restaurant weren’t racist –wouldn’t the most obvious remedy simply be to roll the tape?
Same with Rush’s “phony soldiers” comments.
Beck and Hannity babbled on and on about what a raw deal Limbaugh is getting, but yet never thought to play the actual clip to clear the record?
Gee, now why could that be?

And when Rush finally does re-air his comments he edited over a minute and a half.

[fredinator]

I get my news from BBC America and NPR... Saw a commercial where Matt Frei(sp?), who is BBC America's anchor as in Brian Williams, was on a street in Iraq (I think) and a bomb went off, people were running; he just ducked a little but kept on reporting; didn't skip a beat. It was incredibly awesome, I thought.

[Rip Rokken]

Push comes to shove, the Repubs will nearly always protect their own.

I am not sure I agree with that. There have been many Repubs that have been thrown under the bus for even little gaffes that the party perceived could hurt them politically. Ousting Trent Lott was a good example, over his casual comment about Strom Thurmond at his 100th birthday party. That's how quickly and easily you can get thrown under the bus by a political party. Politicians are politicians, and not a lot of integrity comes into play on either side in these situations.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Well, I guess he could be as bad as Michael Savage but it still gets under my skin.

Confidantes of Savage (ne Michael Weiner) say he always desired to be a Lenny Bruce-style comedian.
Taken in that sense, the guy is great.
Unlike Hannity and Rush, I will give Beck and Savage credit for being talented behind the microphone.

[Rip Rokken]

I hear Rush, Glenn and all the mini-McCarthys recite this tale of woe sooo often.
Here's a novel idea, if all these Right wing hacks are being "misquoted", why don't they simply re-play themselves back in context?
How come O’Reilly merely re-assures his audience that the comments he made regarding a Harlem restaurant weren’t racist –wouldn’t the most obvious remedy simply be to roll the tape?
Same with Rush’s “phony soldiers” comments.
Beck and Hannity babbled on and on about what a raw deal Limbaugh is getting, but yet never thought to play the actual clip to clear the record?
Gee, now why could that be?

And when Rush finally does re-air his comments he edited over a minute and a half.

Anyone who listens to Rush regularly knows this was taken way out of context, and he certainly has explained it. He was not calling war opponents "phony soldiers", but Jesse MacBeth, who was a complete fraud, who made John Kerry-style claims of atrocities that he never actually witnessed. He ended up getting jail time for his scam.

[conversationpc]

Bullshit.
I hear Rush, Glenn and all the mini-McCarthys recite this tale of woe sooo often.
Here's a novel idea, if all these Right wing hacks are being "misquoted", why don't they simply re-play themselves back in context?
How come O’Reilly merely re-assures his audience that the comments he made regarding a Harlem restaurant weren’t racist –wouldn’t the most obvious remedy simply be to roll the tape?

Beck does and has done this several times with Olbermann's out-of-context remarks. Olbermann is a hack and always has been. For instance, Olbermann made a big deal over Beck asking a guest if he could take naked pictures of her. What he failed to say was that the whole thing was a huge joke, making it look like the request was serious. It was so obviously a joke that unless Olbermann is a total tool or just plain unintelligent, there's no way he could not have known that it was a joke.

Same with Rush’s “phony soldiers” comments.
Beck and Hannity babbled on and on about what a raw deal Limbaugh is getting, but yet never thought to play the actual clip to clear the record?
Gee, now why could that be? And when Rush finally does re-air his comments he edited over a minute and a half.

This was explained quite well by Raiderfan at least twice on this board, possibly more. I can't stand Rush or his show but he did not do what you or other smear merchants claim he did in this case.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I am not sure I agree with that. There have been many Repubs that have been thrown under the bus for even little gaffes that the party perceived could hurt them politically. Ousting Trent Lott was a good example, over his casual comment about Strom Thurmond at his 100th birthday party. That's how quickly and easily you can get thrown under the bus by a political party. Politicians are politicians, and not a lot of integrity comes into play on either side in these situations.

Few are going to defend perceived racism, even when its not accurate.
For a more demonstrative example, look at the circle-the-wagons mentality that took hold when Tom Delay, one of the most obscenely corrupt congressman in recent history, was the subject of investigation.
Everyone on the right immediately decried "liberal witchunt!"

Delay should've been thrown out on the street by his own party long ago.

[conversationpc]

Few are going to defend perceived racism, even when its not accurate.
For a more demonstrative example, look at the circle-the-wagons mentality that took hold when Tom Delay, one of the most obscenely corrupt congressman in recent history, was the subject of investigation.
Everyone on the right immediately decried "liberal witchunt!"

Delay should've been thrown out on the street by his own party long ago.

I can't stand DeLay but there was quite a bit of piling on by libs at the time and it was pretty obvious that the prosecutor in Texas had some kind of vendetta against the guy, going so far as to say, several months before indicting him, that he was going to "get him" somehow.

[Sassie]

I am not sure I agree with that. There have been many Repubs that have been thrown under the bus for even little gaffes that the party perceived could hurt them politically. Ousting Trent Lott was a good example, over his casual comment about Strom Thurmond at his 100th birthday party. That's how quickly and easily you can get thrown under the bus by a political party. Politicians are politicians, and not a lot of integrity comes into play on either side in these situations.

Few are going to defend perceived racism, even when its not accurate.
For a more demonstrative example, look at the circle-the-wagons mentality that took hold when Tom Delay, one of the most obscenely corrupt congressman in recent history, was the subject of investigation.
Everyone on the right immediately decried "liberal witchunt!"

Delay should've been thrown out on the street by his own party long ago.

I totally agree with that!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Anyone who listens to Rush regularly knows this was taken way out of context,..

I DO listen to Rush (and Beck, and Hannity, and Savage etc etc)

...and he certainly has explained it.

I don't care how he explains it. The audio and transcript is at complete odds with what he says. The Jesse Macbeth story was never even mentioned in the course of the conversation.

He was not calling war opponents "phony soldiers", but Jesse MacBeth, who was a complete fraud, who made John Kerry-style claims of atrocities that he never actually witnessed. He ended up getting jail time for his scam.

Again, the Jesse Macbeth incident was only brought up after two Iraq soldiers had hung up and the "phony soldiers" slur had already been made.

Either you didn't hear it, or your taking Rush's post-facto spin job at his word.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I can't stand DeLay but there was quite a bit of piling on by libs at the time and it was pretty obvious that the prosecutor in Texas had some kind of vendetta against the guy, going so far as to say, several months before indicting him, that he was going to "get him" somehow.

The DA's name was Ronnie Earle, and he has indited four times as many Democrats as Republicans during his career.

[conversationpc]

I can't stand DeLay but there was quite a bit of piling on by libs at the time and it was pretty obvious that the prosecutor in Texas had some kind of vendetta against the guy, going so far as to say, several months before indicting him, that he was going to "get him" somehow.

The DA's name was Ronnie Earle, and he has indited four times as many Democrats as Republicans during his career.

Who cares? The fact is, he had a personal vendetta against DeLay regardless of if he has indicted Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians or whatever. I could not care less.

[Rip Rokken]

Delay should've been thrown out on the street by his own party long ago.

I completely agree. I'm anti-corruption where ever it exists. The parties often do not prescribe to this, as they are both corrupt anyway.

[Rip Rokken]

I don't care how he explains it. The audio and transcript is at complete odds with what he says. The Jesse Macbeth story was never even mentioned in the course of the conversation.

Again, the Jesse Macbeth incident was only brought up after two Iraq soldiers had hung up and the "phony soldiers" slur had already been made.

Either you didn't hear it, or your taking Rush's post-facto spin job at his word.

It has been a while, and I'll be happy to listen to the unedited audio again if you have a link to it. No chop-job audio, please.