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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:51 am

This is great. OJ walks in, smug as Hell, telling his peeps he will be out on Wednesday. Judge Jackie Glass, a pissed off female, is irate, and bitchslapped OJ and doubled his bail to 250,000. OJ doesn't have the cash. Uh oh..

If you are at home turn it on, this is classic TV.
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Postby MrsPerry » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:53 am

wowwweee!!!! Sounds like a hoot. No bail bondsman in his right friggin mind is gonna write a bond for this joker. :P
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Postby journeyrock » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:57 am

Couldn't happen to a better guy! :lol: :lol: Remember the saying....what goes around, comes around.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:58 am

If it's simply a money issue he'll have it no time. If that old haggard bitch had any common sense she would have denied him bail. I think by re-watching the Bronco highway episode one can deduce that he's a flight risk. Fuck, Charlton Heston could figure that one out.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:00 am

journeyrock wrote:Couldn't happen to a better guy! :lol: :lol: Remember the saying....what goes around, comes around.


Do you think it is possible that his treatment today will be influenced on people's beliefs about before but not on the actual outcome? He was found not guilty but he is treated as being guilty.

That being said, you reap what you sow...
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:01 am

I'm sure he'll come up with the dough, but still nice to see him getting smacked.
But true, he should have been denied bail. That would have been excellent.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:05 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:Couldn't happen to a better guy! :lol: :lol: Remember the saying....what goes around, comes around.


Do you think it is possible that his treatment today will be influenced on people's beliefs about before but not on the actual outcome? He was found not guilty but he is treated as being guilty.

That being said, you reap what you sow...


Partly correct. He was found civilly responsible for the deaths of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. He deserves everything he gets and then some.
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Postby CatEyes » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:16 am

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journeyrock wrote:Couldn't happen to a better guy! :lol: :lol: Remember the saying....what goes around, comes around.

He was found not guilty but he is treated as being guilty.


There is a big difference between being found "not guilty" and being innocent.

"Not gulity" is based on the availability of physical evidence and its presentation.
The jury was unable to reach a verdict of guilty based on the evidence allowed to be presented.

A lot of the physical evidence was thrown out when OJ's "dream team" played the race card.

There was also a lot of discussion on "jury nullification"

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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:19 am

CatEyes wrote:A lot of the physical evidence was thrown out when OJ's "dream team" played the race card.

There was also a lot of discussion on "jury nullification"

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Yep, they knew the morons would be chomping at the grit for rodney king payback.

Peers my ass. Simpson was about as black as Bill Gates.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:19 am

I really wouldn't mind if the 12 assholes that found Orenthal "not guilty" were executed. I'm serious about this, too. As far as I'm concerned they committed treason. And I believe that is punishable by death.
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Postby CatEyes » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:20 am

Red13JoePa wrote: Simpson was about as black as Bill Gates.


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Postby Saint John » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:24 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
CatEyes wrote:A lot of the physical evidence was thrown out when OJ's "dream team" played the race card.

There was also a lot of discussion on "jury nullification"

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Yep, they knew the morons would be chomping at the grit for rodney king payback.

Peers my ass. Simpson was about as black as Bill Gates.



Simpson, like that freak, pedophile, Planet of the Apes looking mother fucker from Never-Never land, is only black when it's convenient. Another jury without a fucking conscience. I hope they think about that when they find out The King of Kiddie Cock had another sleepover.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:30 am

(Typically) many of those juice jurors gloated about their abortion of justice, too.

The more guilty he clearly was, the more they relished rubbing their aquittal in peoples' grills.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:36 am

Saint John wrote:
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journeyrock wrote:Couldn't happen to a better guy! :lol: :lol: Remember the saying....what goes around, comes around.


Do you think it is possible that his treatment today will be influenced on people's beliefs about before but not on the actual outcome? He was found not guilty but he is treated as being guilty.

That being said, you reap what you sow...


Partly correct. He was found civilly responsible for the deaths of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. He deserves everything he gets and then some.


See, I have a problem with THAT as well. I feel that if a person is found not guilty of commiting the crime in criminal court than they should not be held responsible in civil court.

But he does deserve what he is getting because he has been an idiot! However, here is something to consider. What if he was not responsible for those killings and he was not held responsible in civil court? Would he be the retard he has been? How much of his recent past's behaviour can be directly attributed to being found civilly responsible and owing those damages?
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Postby CatEyes » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:42 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I feel that if a person is found not guilty of commiting the crime in criminal court than they should not be held responsible in civil court.


Again, there is a difference between being found "not guilty" based on available evidence and being innocent.

Civil court evidentiary rules are much different than criminal court.

And in civil court it is more a determination of "responsibility" rather than guilt or innocence.

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Postby Saint John » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:49 am

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Saint John wrote:
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journeyrock wrote:Couldn't happen to a better guy! :lol: :lol: Remember the saying....what goes around, comes around.


Do you think it is possible that his treatment today will be influenced on people's beliefs about before but not on the actual outcome? He was found not guilty but he is treated as being guilty.

That being said, you reap what you sow...


Partly correct. He was found civilly responsible for the deaths of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. He deserves everything he gets and then some.


See, I have a problem with THAT as well. I feel that if a person is found not guilty of commiting the crime in criminal court than they should not be held responsible in civil court.

But he does deserve what he is getting because he has been an idiot! However, here is something to consider. What if he was not responsible for those killings and he was not held responsible in civil court? Would he be the retard he has been? How much of his recent past's behaviour can be directly attributed to being found civilly responsible and owing those damages?



His behavior is due to the fact that he's a narcissistic murderer. Like Colin Ferguson, he has lied for so long that he's convinced himself that he didn't do it. I recently watched a show about the whole trial. I find it UNBELIEVABLE that Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin thought it would be a bad idea to introduce the fleeing Bronco, the $20,000 in cash and the disguises as evidence. I'm still scratching my head over that one. In the end however, it wouldn't have mattered to the 12 brain dead motherfuckers that were chosen to disgrace this country's legal system.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:50 am

CatEyes wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:I feel that if a person is found not guilty of commiting the crime in criminal court than they should not be held responsible in civil court.


Again, there is a difference between being found "not guilty" based on available evidence and being innocent.

Civil court evidentiary rules are much different than criminal court.

And in civil court it is more a determination of "responsibility" rather than guilt or innocence.

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Well, our system used to rely on a jury and there was no room to try an individual for the same crime twice. Now there is a way around it. Sadly, someone can be guilty as hell but if his lawyer gets the individual off that should be the end of it. Does that SUCK if s/he goes out and does something heinous? Absolutely! But look at OJ...he certainly could have gone and murdered more people...the civil court ruling did nothing to prevent that. And this is a case where the civil court ruling might have created the dumb ass he is now! Besides, the civil ruling is about damages and payback. Since it can't be prison it ends up being financial. So it is only beneficial when the accused has money. (Of course that still didn't do much for the Goldberg's who have yet to receive a dime) In the end maybe it is simply character assasination. The civil ruling ensured that OJ would never be forgotten as a (possible) murderer.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:51 am

Yea, they thought the evidence of his flee plan would be dicey, but that it would be a GOOD idea to let a guy who has TV and acting experience in his background "try" a glove that had been shrunken with arterial blood on?

Darden and Clarke shit the bed on that.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:53 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Yea, they thought the evidence of his flee plan would be dicey, but that it would be a GOOD idea to let a guy who has TV and acting experience in his background "try" a glove that had been shrunken with arterial blood on?

Darden and Clarke shit the bed on that.


If the glove doesn't fit...you must acquit! Funny stuff....
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:55 am

Saint John wrote:I really wouldn't mind if the 12 assholes that found Orenthal "not guilty" were executed. I'm serious about this, too. As far as I'm concerned they committed treason. And I believe that is punishable by death.


NO joke. What the fuck were those people thinking?! :evil:
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Postby Saint John » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:01 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Saint John wrote:I really wouldn't mind if the 12 assholes that found Orenthal "not guilty" were executed. I'm serious about this, too. As far as I'm concerned they committed treason. And I believe that is punishable by death.


NO joke. What the fuck were those people thinking?! :evil:



It's time to pay back "the man!" That's what they were thinking.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:02 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Saint John wrote:I really wouldn't mind if the 12 assholes that found Orenthal "not guilty" were executed. I'm serious about this, too. As far as I'm concerned they committed treason. And I believe that is punishable by death.


NO joke. What the fuck were those people thinking?! :evil:



The more he guilty he looked, the more they LOVED it.

This shit happens in Philly jurys all the time. One case they just aquitted a serial rapist LITERALLY IN THE FACE of MULTIPLE eyewitness identifications (the victims themselves, hello?). Dude still has a pending rape charge hanging over him in one of the Dakotas, I think. They had D&A and eyewitnesses on him along with expert medical testimony.
All HE had was a black attorney (with a white woman assistant thrown in to balance the charade) who, according to courtroom reports, spoke in common street/ghetto slang style whenever addressing the jurors. The jury had at LEAST 9 (I think it was 10) blacks and they were smirking and laughing it up on the courthouse steps for the cameras after they turned the scumbub free.. It is the way juries roll in big cities.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:08 am

From the AP:


Simpson, clad in jail attire, grimaced as the amount was announced and meekly acknowledged that he understood.

"I don't know Mr. Simpson what the heck you were thinking — or maybe that's the problem — you weren't," Clark County District Court Judge Jackie Glass told Simpson.

"I don't know if it's just arrogance. I don't know if it's ignorance. But you've been locked up at the Clark County Detention Center since Friday because of arrogance or ignorance — or both."


I vote BOTH.
This douchebag should suffer forever and it should be on a 24 hour network for the world to watch.

Asshole. :evil:
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Postby jrnychick » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:10 am

Saint John wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:
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jrnyman28 wrote:
journeyrock wrote:Couldn't happen to a better guy! :lol: :lol: Remember the saying....what goes around, comes around.


Do you think it is possible that his treatment today will be influenced on people's beliefs about before but not on the actual outcome? He was found not guilty but he is treated as being guilty.

That being said, you reap what you sow...


Partly correct. He was found civilly responsible for the deaths of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. He deserves everything he gets and then some.


See, I have a problem with THAT as well. I feel that if a person is found not guilty of commiting the crime in criminal court than they should not be held responsible in civil court.

But he does deserve what he is getting because he has been an idiot! However, here is something to consider. What if he was not responsible for those killings and he was not held responsible in civil court? Would he be the retard he has been? How much of his recent past's behaviour can be directly attributed to being found civilly responsible and owing those damages?



His behavior is due to the fact that he's a narcissistic murderer. Like Colin Ferguson, he has lied for so long that he's convinced himself that he didn't do it. I recently watched a show about the whole trial. I find it UNBELIEVABLE that Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin thought it would be a bad idea to introduce the fleeing Bronco, the $20,000 in cash and the disguises as evidence. I'm still scratching my head over that one. In the end however, it wouldn't have mattered to the 12 brain dead motherfuckers that were chosen to disgrace this country's legal system.


I think OJ is getting exactly what he deserves. Even though he was not convicted of killing Nicole and Ron, he can't get rid of the tapes of the 911 calls that Nicole made when he was trying to bust into her house. He has a history of violence. He was a complete and utter moron for being involved in going after the "stolen" property.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:10 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Clark County District Court Judge Jackie Glass told Simpson.

"I don't know if it's just arrogance. I don't know if it's ignorance. But you've been locked up at the Clark County Detention Center since Friday because of arrogance or ignorance — or both."[/i]


Hmm.
Poor word choice by that judge.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his legal team pounces on the use of "ignorance" by the judge, rips the race card out post haste and tries to reverse something somehow.

If that happens, SHE will end up being the "ignorant" one.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:17 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
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Saint John wrote:I really wouldn't mind if the 12 assholes that found Orenthal "not guilty" were executed. I'm serious about this, too. As far as I'm concerned they committed treason. And I believe that is punishable by death.


NO joke. What the fuck were those people thinking?! :evil:



The more he guilty he looked, the more they LOVED it.

This shit happens in Philly jurys all the time. One case they just aquitted a serial rapist LITERALLY IN THE FACE of MULTIPLE eyewitness identifications (the victims themselves, hello?). Dude still has a pending rape charge hanging over him in one of the Dakotas, I think. They had D&A and eyewitnesses on him along with expert medical testimony.
All HE had was a black attorney (with a white woman assistant thrown in to balance the charade) who, according to courtroom reports, spoke in common street/ghetto slang style whenever addressing the jurors. The jury had at LEAST 9 (I think it was 10) blacks and they were smirking and laughing it up on the courthouse steps for the cameras after they turned the scumbub free.. It is the way juries roll in big cities.


That is a tragdey for sure. But should this guy then be tried in civil court? For what? I say make sure that the next time it happens (since the civil court won't stop that anyway) the case is equally airtight and tried better.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:19 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:From the AP:

"I don't know if it's just arrogance. I don't know if it's ignorance. But you've been locked up at the Clark County Detention Center since Friday because of arrogance or ignorance — or both."


To what is she referring?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:21 am

jrnyman28 wrote:That is a tragdey for sure. But should this guy then be tried in civil court? For what? I say make sure that the next time it happens (since the civil court won't stop that anyway) the case is equally airtight and tried better.


That's just it, Dave28.

It CAN'T be ANY MORE airtight than the case I mentioned above or the juice case. DNA is like accurate to the millionth percentile.

The problem is when inner city juries make up their mind that, like Canseco said, they're going to "stick it to the man" what can the prosecutors do? And you can't say "balance the jury pool" b/c in the big cities if you call 75 potential jurors in in a city like Philly or LA, a disproportionate # of those are bound to be of color.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:29 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:That is a tragdey for sure. But should this guy then be tried in civil court? For what? I say make sure that the next time it happens (since the civil court won't stop that anyway) the case is equally airtight and tried better.


That's just it, Dave28.

It CAN'T be ANY MORE airtight than the case I mentioned above or the juice case. DNA is like accurate to the millionth percentile.

The problem is when inner city juries make up their mind that, like Canseco said, they're going to "stick it to the man" what can the prosecutors do? And you can't say "balance the jury pool" b/c in the big cities if you call 75 potential jurors in in a city like Philly or LA, a disproportionate # of those are bound to be of color.


Well I would like to think that you CAN balance the jury out. But there has to be something else as well. I know the evidence was there so there must be ways to counter the race tactics. I do believe that race should never be allowed to enter into it...not in this day. I needs to be about actions and evidence. I wish they could immediately strike anything that leans on race...but I know that cannot happen.

Still, my point is basically "what is the point to civil trial when the accused has been found not guilty"? In most cases it will not accomplish anything but form public opinion. It will not stop the accused from doing anything, it will not reward the victim. And in a case like OJ it might create more dumbass behaviour.
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Postby CatEyes » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:15 am

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Saint John wrote:I really wouldn't mind if the 12 assholes that found Orenthal "not guilty" were executed. I'm serious about this, too. As far as I'm concerned they committed treason. And I believe that is punishable by death.


NO joke. What the fuck were those people thinking?! :evil:


nullification.

The jury sees a chance to "get even" for what they see as years of unjust prosecution.

Unjust prosecution does suck - however, it is no reason to let a murderer off.

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