New JJ Interview

[Slander]

Thanks glad you liked the post.....truthfully I don't really look at it as a huge thrill,more like just doing your job.

I think that happens to most of us no matter if we are working our "dream" job. You are right though when you talk about working in the company of friends. There is no replacement for that. What gig are you proudest of?

[axecrew]

I'd love to tell you about a show that was in front of 60,000 or the Garden or whatever.....but the truth is the most memorable show is one that I didn't even attend. Now I need to explain.....I remember coming home from a hockey game a couple of years ago and getting on the computer.....One of the first headlines that hit me was about Dimebag's death that night. When I went to the story and found out where it was, I just about fell off of my chair. You see I'd been to that club with the band a few years prior and know the layout of the place with precision like detail. So as I read the story and eye witness accounts,in my mind I was picturing the inside of the club and dressing room/stage area. It was very chilling to know that I'd stood in the very spot that he died years prior and I could picture the way the shooter got in etc.
Needless to say even today when someone brings it up ,I can still see the layout etc. Hell, even as I type this I can picture it in my mind. What really sucks is that even though I never met him,the boys in the band were all friends with him.
Anyway like I said at the beginning....wish it were some sold out 60,000 seater,but it's not.

[Red13JoePa]

I think this is serious. I'm hoping to contact the band myself over this. I think this needs to responded to. I will ask you Andrew have you emailed FS to make him aware of the interview and Jamison's claims?

LOL, here it is.

[7 Wishes]

This is the most ridiculous thread in the history of this forum. Give me a damn break. I avoided even reading this thread for a long time, and I regret I ever did.

Frankie is a dipshit and he is not going to get a penny out of me for the remainder of his life. Everyone he has ever known (other than Joe and Slander), he has managed to completely alienate.

Droubay has to figure $350 a gig is better than being broke. Trust me, as a musician, I would rather play in a well-known band for a little cash than have to give up my music altogether. I'm a teacher and personal trainer, so I have other sources of income, but a lot of lifelong, career musicians don't have those options. So you're not going to get ANYTHING resembling the truth from him...and of course Old Man Sullivan's accountants, lawyers, label, and management are going to tow the party line. So NO WAY to get the truth there.

Look, even the biggest assholes in the world have SOME friends. People who see only the "good" side of a person, who are never exposed to the "real" person...or who have something to gain by keeping their mouths shut or kissing that person's ass. So there will ALWAYS be someone out there who will refute "allegations" about even the most loathsome individuals. Pretty much everyone knows Axl Rose is a complete dickhead, but if you ask his coke and heroin buddies who still party at his mansion as the "new record" enters its twelfth year of production, do you really think they are going to say "Yeah, you know what...Axl really is a prick. He gets me my drugs and gets me laid, but I've got to lay down the law here...he really is a jackass"? No, of course not! you don't do that to your meal ticket!

Anyway, Sullivan is over-rated as a musician and songwriter. He is a low-down, rotten, mean-hearted, selfish SOB. I would say that to his face if I saw him, too. He has ruined this legendary band.

[Journey/Survivor]

This is the most ridiculous thread in the history of this forum. Give me a damn break. I avoided even reading this thread for a long time, and I regret I ever did.

Frankie is a dipshit and he is not going to get a penny out of me for the remainder of his life. Everyone he has ever known (other than Joe and Slander), he has managed to completely alienate.

Droubay has to figure $350 a gig is better than being broke. Trust me, as a musician, I would rather play in a well-known band for a little cash than have to give up my music altogether. I'm a teacher and personal trainer, so I have other sources of income, but a lot of lifelong, career musicians don't have those options. So you're not going to get ANYTHING resembling the truth from him...and of course Old Man Sullivan's accountants, lawyers, label, and management are going to tow the party line. So NO WAY to get the truth there.

Look, even the biggest assholes in the world have SOME friends. People who see only the "good" side of a person, who are never exposed to the "real" person...or who have something to gain by keeping their mouths shut or kissing that person's ass. So there will ALWAYS be someone out there who will refute "allegations" about even the most loathsome individuals. Pretty much everyone knows Axl Rose is a complete dickhead, but if you ask his coke and heroin buddies who still party at his mansion as the "new record" enters its twelfth year of production, do you really think they are going to say "Yeah, you know what...Axl really is a prick. He gets me my drugs and gets me laid, but I've got to lay down the law here...he really is a jackass"? No, of course not! you don't do that to your meal ticket!

Anyway, Sullivan is over-rated as a musician and songwriter. He is a low-down, rotten, mean-hearted, selfish SOB. I would say that to his face if I saw him, too. He has ruined this legendary band.

I strongly disagree with you about him being overrated as a musician, IMO he's highly underrated as a musician.

[MarcelJordan]

This is the most ridiculous thread in the history of this forum. Give me a damn break. I avoided even reading this thread for a long time, and I regret I ever did.

Frankie is a dipshit and he is not going to get a penny out of me for the remainder of his life. Everyone he has ever known (other than Joe and Slander), he has managed to completely alienate.

Droubay has to figure $350 a gig is better than being broke. Trust me, as a musician, I would rather play in a well-known band for a little cash than have to give up my music altogether. I'm a teacher and personal trainer, so I have other sources of income, but a lot of lifelong, career musicians don't have those options. So you're not going to get ANYTHING resembling the truth from him...and of course Old Man Sullivan's accountants, lawyers, label, and management are going to tow the party line. So NO WAY to get the truth there.

Look, even the biggest assholes in the world have SOME friends. People who see only the "good" side of a person, who are never exposed to the "real" person...or who have something to gain by keeping their mouths shut or kissing that person's ass. So there will ALWAYS be someone out there who will refute "allegations" about even the most loathsome individuals. Pretty much everyone knows Axl Rose is a complete dickhead, but if you ask his coke and heroin buddies who still party at his mansion as the "new record" enters its twelfth year of production, do you really think they are going to say "Yeah, you know what...Axl really is a prick. He gets me my drugs and gets me laid, but I've got to lay down the law here...he really is a jackass"? No, of course not! you don't do that to your meal ticket!

Anyway, Sullivan is over-rated as a musician and songwriter. He is a low-down, rotten, mean-hearted, selfish SOB. I would say that to his face if I saw him, too. He has ruined this legendary band.

Time for you to look for other pastures.

[Red13JoePa]

Well, 7Wishes is right.
Survivor IS an awesome band and FS has them on a ventilator.

[Slander]

Anyway, Sullivan is over-rated as a musician and songwriter. He is a low-down, rotten, mean-hearted, selfish SOB. I would say that to his face if I saw him, too. He has ruined this legendary band.

7 I'm glad you are back on the board. I hope you are feeling better. Please tell us what you really think and don't hold back! Even if what you say is true it still doesn't excuse JJ for being stupid with his own finances. What I love is how many don't want to make JJ accountable for anything. I give JJ more credit than that. He's a smart guy who should have taken advantage of his amazing talents.

[Red13JoePa]

So by ripping Jamison's business sense you're back to basically admitting that what he said is true that Sullivan DID beat him out all the money JJ says he's owed and should've been smarter about ensuring it was paid.

[Slander]

So by ripping Jamison's business sense you're back to basically admitting that what he said is true that Sullivan DID beat him out all the money JJ says he's owed and should've been smarter about ensuring it was paid.

No I'm not. And according to JV, JJ owes Frankie dough. I'm saying that JJ's claims make zero sense.

[Red13JoePa]

So by ripping Jamison's business sense you're back to basically admitting that what he said is true that Sullivan DID beat him out all the money JJ says he's owed and should've been smarter about ensuring it was paid.

No I'm not. And according to JV, JJ owes Frankie dough.

Pff.
If that's true, then my guess is that Jamison said effectively "fine. I'll just hang onto the 5 gs as collateral on what he owes ME."

[Slander]

So by ripping Jamison's business sense you're back to basically admitting that what he said is true that Sullivan DID beat him out all the money JJ says he's owed and should've been smarter about ensuring it was paid.

No I'm not. And according to JV, JJ owes Frankie dough.

Pff.
If that's true, then my guess is that Jamison said effectively "fine. I'll just hang onto the 5 gs as collateral on what he owes ME."

I will ask you again. If JJ is owed so much money why doesn't he take legal action? It should be an open and shut case right? A slam dunk!

[Red13JoePa]

Maybe he's not as litigious as Mr Lawsuits-R-Us.
Maybe b/c FS jammed him out of the coin he didn't have enough for retainer fees.


In Sullivan you're talking about a guy who tried to squeeze cash of the network behind the television show Survivor, which had approximately 200 X the recognition of the band who people thought stopped existing after When Seconds Count. As if the TV show creators sat around and said "Let's Call it Survivor, people will tune in because of the rock band that sang Eye Of The Tiger and Don't Stop Believing in 1982."

[Slander]

Maybe he's not as litigious as Mr Lawsuits-R-Us. "

Or maybe JJ just has no case. Like I said you hold him accountable for nothing. JJ is not an infant. He is a grown man. You need not defend him.

[7 Wishes]

I think Joe Vana is one of MR's premier talents and I own virtually every record on which he has taken part.

However, I do think his perspective is definitely biased, considering his relationship with Francis. Anyone, without the benefit of the opposing party, can say anything they want to about that person with little worry of any counter-allegations since that one opinion is the only one being considered. Kind of like exclusively getting your news from Fox.

[Joe Vana]

I think Joe Vana is one of MR's premier talents and I own virtually every record on which he has taken part.

However, I do think his perspective is definitely biased, considering his relationship with Francis. Anyone, without the benefit of the opposing party, can say anything they want to about that person with little worry of any counter-allegations since that one opinion is the only one being considered. Kind of like exclusively getting your news from Fox.

Hey 7....

I admit I am COMPLETELY Biased....I admit it....

Frank and I get on great and have a great relationship....I probably should stay far away from anything relating to him on here because of that fact....But, if you saw a friend who you have known a really long time getting slagged it is hard not to jump in....guilty as charged....plus the stuff I know is basically all private stuff anyway, so yea, I should probably steer clear.....

Thanks Man!!

JV

[Slander]

I think Joe Vana is one of MR's premier talents and I own virtually every record on which he has taken part.
Kind of like exclusively getting your news from Fox.

I feel the same about fox noise.

[7 Wishes]

Well, Joe, I appreciate your candor...and don't ever stop makin' records...you're an amazing talent.

I was over the top in my criticism of Frankie. I won't ever forget the music he made, and Survivor will always be a huge part of my life. Without Bickler or JJ, it just ain't Survivor. Period.

[Joe Vana]

Well, Joe, I appreciate your candor...and don't ever stop makin' records...you're an amazing talent.

I was over the top in my criticism of Frankie. I won't ever forget the music he made, and Survivor will always be a huge part of my life. Without Bickler or JJ, it just ain't Survivor. Period.

You struck on the essential point of alot of the people on this board...

There were truly TWO different Survivors....

The Bickler Era.....and The Jamison Era....we all hold on to the one we liked most, and are fiercely loyal to that era...I respect that in Survivor fans....

I am waiting for the MaCauley Era to take shape, if they do an album with Robin he will then have his stamp on the band as well...I for one look forward to it.....

It's the same as the Cubs and White Sox....oh no it's not, The White Sox SUCK hahahahahah............

Thanks again 7, you are too kind...and that video for Broken Promises kills me still....I gave Frankie a bunch of shit about his hair back then tonight in the studio...even though I really thought it was COOL as hell....what a great song Live....

JV

JV

[7 Wishes]

My all-time favourite Survivor video moment had to be that slo-mo thing during "Eye" when Jim throws his rain-soaked hair back right before the keyboard refrain kicks in. Pure 80's. Damn I miss those days...

[Journey/Survivor]

Well, Joe, I appreciate your candor...and don't ever stop makin' records...you're an amazing talent.

I was over the top in my criticism of Frankie. I won't ever forget the music he made, and Survivor will always be a huge part of my life. Without Bickler or JJ, it just ain't Survivor. Period.

You struck on the essential point of alot of the people on this board...

There were truly TWO different Survivors....

The Bickler Era.....and The Jamison Era....we all hold on to the one we liked most, and are fiercely loyal to that era...I respect that in Survivor fans....

I am waiting for the MaCauley Era to take shape, if they do an album with Robin he will then have his stamp on the band as well...I for one look forward to it.....

It's the same as the Cubs and White Sox....oh no it's not, The White Sox SUCK hahahahahah............

Thanks again 7, you are too kind...and that video for Broken Promises kills me still....I gave Frankie a bunch of shit about his hair back then tonight in the studio...even though I really thought it was COOL as hell....what a great song Live....

JV

JV

The Cubs are my second favorite Baseball team after the Indians. But being an Indians fan, I hate the White Sox.

I've always thought the best look for Frankie was how he looked on the back cover of the THTS album. That was also Jimi's best look IMO. Not so much for JP.

[kgdjpubs]

[quote="Joe Vana"

There were truly TWO different Survivors....

The Bickler Era.....and The Jamison Era....we all hold on to the one we liked most, and are fiercely loyal to that era...I respect that in Survivor fans....

JV[/quote]


I think that's why a lot of people like Too Hot to Sleep. Effectively, it was 50% progression of WSC (Desperate Dreams, Didn't Know It Was Love, etc), and 50% Bickler-era (She's a Star, Can't Give It Up, Burning Bridges, etc). There were definitely parts of Caught in the Game that were heading towards Vital Signs, regardless of what the cd would have sounded like if Dave had not left. Still, the change in sound for Vital Signs was fairly dramatic, and a far cry from the Tiger/Premonition days, and Jamison's voice is considerably different in delivery to essentially be the same range as Bickler.

The harder part of THTS was effectively Jamison singing Bickler-era material. Forget the pop of most of Vital Signs and at least the first half of WSC (the second half was definitely heavier), this was Survivor back to rocking. Debatedly, it was probably Jamison's best vocal work on an album, and live, Bickler killed on the material after he came back....though he struggled with Desperate Dreams a bit!

To some extent, Too Hot To Sleep mended the two camps into a cohesive whole. Too bad there was never a true follow-up to the album. The long-rumoured Bickler album in the 90s would have been very interesting to hear, and I got the impression it wasn't going to be the Fire Makes Steel demos collection, as there were a bunch of songs played live that never made that "album".

[Joe Vana]

[quote="Joe Vana"

There were truly TWO different Survivors....

The Bickler Era.....and The Jamison Era....we all hold on to the one we liked most, and are fiercely loyal to that era...I respect that in Survivor fans....

JV

I think that's why a lot of people like Too Hot to Sleep. Effectively, it was 50% progression of WSC (Desperate Dreams, Didn't Know It Was Love, etc), and 50% Bickler-era (She's a Star, Can't Give It Up, Burning Bridges, etc). There were definitely parts of Caught in the Game that were heading towards Vital Signs, regardless of what the cd would have sounded like if Dave had not left. Still, the change in sound for Vital Signs was fairly dramatic, and a far cry from the Tiger/Premonition days, and Jamison's voice is considerably different in delivery to essentially be the same range as Bickler.

The harder part of THTS was effectively Jamison singing Bickler-era material. Forget the pop of most of Vital Signs and at least the first half of WSC (the second half was definitely heavier), this was Survivor back to rocking. Debatedly, it was probably Jamison's best vocal work on an album, and live, Bickler killed on the material after he came back....though he struggled with Desperate Dreams a bit!

To some extent, Too Hot To Sleep mended the two camps into a cohesive whole. Too bad there was never a true follow-up to the album. The long-rumoured Bickler album in the 90s would have been very interesting to hear, and I got the impression it wasn't going to be the Fire Makes Steel demos collection, as there were a bunch of songs played live that never made that "album".[/quote]

All great points....

So I guess It has come to this....

Fantasy time.....

I ask this question then....who would have been YOUR CHOICE for a great singer for Survivor that could do BOTH era's material IF Robin (I love Robin) had said no and Jamo moved on already???? And NO you can't pick Dave...he is Real men of Geniusing at the moment...

Be realistic...but give it some thought...

JV

[Slander]

[quote="Joe Vana"

There were truly TWO different Survivors....

The Bickler Era.....and The Jamison Era....we all hold on to the one we liked most, and are fiercely loyal to that era...I respect that in Survivor fans....

JV

I think that's why a lot of people like Too Hot to Sleep. Effectively, it was 50% progression of WSC (Desperate Dreams, Didn't Know It Was Love, etc), and 50% Bickler-era (She's a Star, Can't Give It Up, Burning Bridges, etc). There were definitely parts of Caught in the Game that were heading towards Vital Signs, regardless of what the cd would have sounded like if Dave had not left. Still, the change in sound for Vital Signs was fairly dramatic, and a far cry from the Tiger/Premonition days, and Jamison's voice is considerably different in delivery to essentially be the same range as Bickler.

The harder part of THTS was effectively Jamison singing Bickler-era material. Forget the pop of most of Vital Signs and at least the first half of WSC (the second half was definitely heavier), this was Survivor back to rocking. Debatedly, it was probably Jamison's best vocal work on an album, and live, Bickler killed on the material after he came back....though he struggled with Desperate Dreams a bit!

To some extent, Too Hot To Sleep mended the two camps into a cohesive whole. Too bad there was never a true follow-up to the album. The long-rumoured Bickler album in the 90s would have been very interesting to hear, and I got the impression it wasn't going to be the Fire Makes Steel demos collection, as there were a bunch of songs played live that never made that "album".

All great points....

So I guess It has come to this....

Fantasy time.....

I ask this question then....who would have been YOUR CHOICE for a great singer for Survivor that could do BOTH era's material IF Robin (I love Robin) had said no and Jamo moved on already???? And NO you can't pick Dave...he is Real men of Geniusing at the moment...

Be realistic...but give it some thought...

JV[/quote]

Joe Lynn Turner

[axecrew]

How 'bout the guy Jim originally wanted........Kevin Chalfant

[Slander]

How 'bout the guy Jim originally wanted........Kevin Chalfant

What about former foreigner lead singer Johnny Edwards.

[MarcelJordan]

I have always thought of Steve Walsh (of Kansas), but unfortunately he's near 60. Not sure whether he still belts it out.

One of my favorite tunes that remind me of Survivor would be Power from '86. I base the above mainly because of this tune.

[Abitaman]

How 'bout the guy Jim originally wanted........Kevin Chalfant

I would go for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-ERIC

[Slander]

How 'bout the guy Jim originally wanted........Kevin Chalfant

I would go for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-ERIC

Isn't he in Shooting Star now?

[Joe Vana]

How 'bout the guy Jim originally wanted........Kevin Chalfant

I would go for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-ERIC

Isn't he in Shooting Star now?

NO....Ron Platt is....

Kevin did the new album and then left....

I don't think Frankie and Kevin would last 10 minutes....

Kevin's usually got alot going on....I think he is still pursuing Journey like projects as he just did an entire album of Journey Cover material....

JV