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Postby Jeremey » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:02 am

ttango1 wrote:Hey does Frontiers ever come out to San Diego?


Can't say that we ever would, though I have friends in that area...Logisitcally just can't ever see that being a possibility though!
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Postby brywool » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:16 am

the guy is a killer singer. I cannot believe the people bitching about it...
I have faith in Arnel. I don't have faith that the band will do right by him.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:33 am

Jeremey wrote:
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PS- Steve Perry, Steve Augeri and JSS were also hired voices.


Never before in the band's history, however, has it been so clear what the role of the incoming frontman will be than it has now. The band appears to have made it very clear that they want someone who can replicate Steve Perry's vocals. So to paint Perry, Steve A, JSS, and Pineda with the same "hired hand" brush isn't really accurate.


I think this is why Arnel was the choice. He is not the frontman Perry or JSS were, he has next to no stage presence, just the voice (and in my opinion, it's not THAT great of a voice). THIS way, NEAL can be the STAR he wants to be. They have the voice going, but not the personae of Perry/ JSS and to some extent SA that drowned out Neal. Neal's got the best deal here.

I'm sticking with Linkin Park. Chester kicks ASS! I'd much rather go with a relevant band that one that is rehashing old tunes with a mediocre singer. And I'll be happy to plunk down my $300 a ticket for LP. I wouldn't pay $1 to see Journey. My opinion. Danke.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:51 am

Has anyone seen any of Arnel's earlier band years on video clips? I'm anxious to see if anyone has any or if any such clips even exist.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:51 am

LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:54 am

Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.
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Postby yulog » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:15 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


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Postby ttango1 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:17 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


20 years from now just how high will LP register?
Will they be treated as a time period group or will they be looked upon as group that transcends time periods?
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:23 am

ttango1 wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


20 years from now just how high will LP register?
Will they be treated as a time period group or will they be looked upon as group that transcends time periods?


I'm gonna put down a healthy wager that Linkin Park will be a footnote in 20 years. It's going to be bands like Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, Muse, and Tool that will be remembered the most in decades to come.
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Postby journeyrock » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:27 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


20 years from now just how high will LP register?
Will they be treated as a time period group or will they be looked upon as group that transcends time periods?


I'm gonna put down a healthy wager that Linkin Park will be a footnote in 20 years. It's going to be bands like Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, Muse, and Tool that will be remembered the most in decades to come.
And who ARE these bands, don't know one of them. :wink:
"as long as they have to carry DSB as their banner, it looks like Perry will be right there with them as an overseer, ready to wield his veto power on all things Classic Journey." As quoted by Don on 12/7/2010
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:31 am

yulog wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


How can you compare Journey in their late 50's to linkin park in their 20'sImage


Who's talking age? I'm talking good music that I'd pay money to see. Age has nothing to do with it, as I'd lay down $300 to see Aerosmith or Led Zep, and they sure as shit aren't in their 20s. But both of those bands are more relevant that Journey is by a long shot.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:32 am

ttango1 wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


20 years from now just how high will LP register?
Will they be treated as a time period group or will they be looked upon as group that transcends time periods?


Depends on how they handle their business. Still doesn't make them any less relevant now. Journey is playing casinos. How is that relevant?
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:33 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


20 years from now just how high will LP register?
Will they be treated as a time period group or will they be looked upon as group that transcends time periods?


I'm gonna put down a healthy wager that Linkin Park will be a footnote in 20 years. It's going to be bands like Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, Muse, and Tool that will be remembered the most in decades to come.


I'd be interested in why you think these bands will be remembered versus LP. Radiohead, yes... but the others?
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Postby BobbyinTN » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:47 am

He's fuckin' awesome and if you don't think the guy can sing, you're tone deaf.
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Postby yulog » Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:06 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:LP is relevant? LOL, as old as Journey may be, the simple fact that DSB is probably played more than any other song, speaks volumes. I would rather see Journey play the dirty dozen than see anything LP does. 300 for LP? Are you fucking high?


NOPE. I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Here's relevant... take a look at the venues they sell out. Take a look at how much their latest Cd sold. I see billboards of them on KROQ all over town. Where's Journey? no where.


20 years from now just how high will LP register?
Will they be treated as a time period group or will they be looked upon as group that transcends time periods?


Depends on how they handle their business. Still doesn't make them any less relevant now. Journey is playing casinos. How is that relevant?


So was Frank sinatra up until the end and he was and is one of the most relevant people in entertainment, linkin park will be lucky to do the same if they are still around in 10 yrsImage
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Postby ttango1 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:13 am

Frank Sinatra was the shit :)
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:23 pm

Linkin Park is pretty good. I love listening to some of their music while I'm driving at least twice the legal speed limit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqIeNALC9rI
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:31 pm

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ohsherrie wrote:Well, to each his own Dean. I don't know what else to say. There is nothing about Arnel that I like. I think his voice sounds like a rusty hinge on many notes and there's sure as hell nothing about him that I find pleasant to watch. Those who like his sound and look are certainly free to enjoy him.


I say it again, I prefer Jeremey...However, you are as way out there on this as you are on politics. I can see not liking a particular singer, but to say he sounds like a "rusty hinge"? Are you kidding me? :shock:


And you're extracting and isolating my comment out of context so you can exacerbate the true intent and twist it to use to your advantage like a true Fox political commentator. :twisted: :P

Back to the true topic though, Arnel slides up to some notes and sounds like a squeaky, rusty hinge when he does so. I have no more interest in the band using the name Journey with Arnel than I had in the band using the name Journey with Augeri. In fact, I have even less because now they've let me down three times. They've dissed Perry, Jeff and Jeremey.

I'm as done with them as I am with Bush and there's no more serious diss that I can bestow upon them than that.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:35 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
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ohsherrie wrote:Well, to each his own Dean. I don't know what else to say. There is nothing about Arnel that I like. I think his voice sounds like a rusty hinge on many notes and there's sure as hell nothing about him that I find pleasant to watch. Those who like his sound and look are certainly free to enjoy him.


I say it again, I prefer Jeremey...However, you are as way out there on this as you are on politics. I can see not liking a particular singer, but to say he sounds like a "rusty hinge"? Are you kidding me? :shock:


And you're extracting and isolating my comment out of context so you can exacerbate the true intent and twist it to use to your advantage like a true Fox political commentator. :twisted: :P

Back to the true topic though, Arnel slides up to some notes and sounds like a squeaky, rusty hinge when he does so. I have no more interest in the band using the name Journey with Arnel than I had in the band using the name Journey with Augeri. In fact, I have even less because now they've let me down three times. They've dissed Perry, Jeff and Jeremey.

I'm as done with them as I am with Bush and there's no more serious diss that I can bestow upon them than that.


I think the statute of limitations ran out on that one... :lol:
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:03 pm

i'm still confused how they dissed jeremey. }:C\ if journey screwed anyone it was jss. he was a friend & had worked with neal before he joined journey. strong ties that were broken... you just don't treat friends the way they treated jss. jer wasn't a friend & had no past with neal & co... he was offered a job & he turned it down... then after re-thinking he changed his mind & they said no. so just how was he dissed?
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Postby strangegrey » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:06 pm

brywool wrote:the guy is a killer singer. I cannot believe the people bitching about it...
I have faith in Arnel. I don't have faith that the band will do right by him.


This is the point most Arneliots, for reasons that escape me, refuse to grasp.

It's the particulars surrounding the band, and not the next successor in a long line of ejected vocalists. While I'm not convinced Arnel can pull of what Perry has pulled off, I wasn't convinced that Soto could do it either nor Augeri. The difference between Augeri and Soto/Pineda, is that Augeri was the first one...I was willing to give Steve the Second a chance, because I wasn't convinced the dysfunctional nature of this band was Schlong's fault or the twinkle-toed faggot's behind the whale at that point. I was proven wrong, since as soon as tour obligations for Arrival were concluded, the band sunk into a ring of horseshit laden nostalgia bullshit with zero hope of moving forward beyond the dirty dozen.

The fact of the matter is that Journey is broken. It's a broken machine. It chews up singers and spits them out to satisfy the huge fucking uncontrollable ego of Schlong and his yeast infected yes man finger-banging the whale.

Arnel's fate isn't going to be any different than Perry's, Augeri's or Soto's. He'll be used, chewed up and spit out when he no longer can provide steady income so Schlong can sign his 5 alimony checks every month.

So while I respect some folks are in this to ride it out...figuring "I'll take whatever Journey I can until this falls apart"...anyone that expects this lineup to do anything other than to pound the dirty dozen into dust as it scrapes the bottom of the fan heap, desperately upending fat-talkers, looking for spare change that falls out of their pockets...is delusional.

This new lineup isn't going to move mountains. It's going to get burried underneath one....a mountain of bad debt (to former fans) that it cant pay off...
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:09 pm

jss saved their sorry butts & they just toss him aside like yesterdays meatloaf. jer only had to deal with them for what? a week? give me a freakin` break. boo bleepin hoo.
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Postby Jeremey » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:05 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:jss saved their sorry butts & they just toss him aside like yesterdays meatloaf. jer only had to deal with them for what? a week? give me a freakin` break. boo bleepin hoo.


They didn't diss me....They didn't act very professional the way things were handled, but hey, like someone told me at the time, "Welcome to the music business." No sweat....I think where some people get confused about things is because I felt that Neal said personal things about my wife when he had no idea about her or her character, and that's what pissed me off. Besides, how did I become a topic of conversation here anyway?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:47 pm

some seem to think you were dissed... like sp & jss. for me there really is no comparison. you're lucky... you only had to deal with them for a short amount of time.

Jeremey wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:jss saved their sorry butts & they just toss him aside like yesterdays meatloaf. jer only had to deal with them for what? a week? give me a freakin` break. boo bleepin hoo.


They didn't diss me....They didn't act very professional the way things were handled, but hey, like someone told me at the time, "Welcome to the music business." No sweat....I think where some people get confused about things is because I felt that Neal said personal things about my wife when he had no idea about her or her character, and that's what pissed me off. Besides, how did I become a topic of conversation here anyway?
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:07 pm

Jeremey wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:jss saved their sorry butts & they just toss him aside like yesterdays meatloaf. jer only had to deal with them for what? a week? give me a freakin` break. boo bleepin hoo.


They didn't diss me....They didn't act very professional the way things were handled, but hey, like someone told me at the time, "Welcome to the music business." No sweat....I think where some people get confused about things is because I felt that Neal said personal things about my wife when he had no idea about her or her character, and that's what pissed me off. Besides, how did I become a topic of conversation here anyway?
Sorry bud,but you were dissed, thank god they did it to you before you joined the band.Augeri was dissed, and Arnel wil be dissed also. Neal wants a vocal that he can play guitar to,nothing else.Check out his quotes,. "I missed not having a lead singer to play with anymore. It will be interesting how this circus pans out
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:13 pm

Why argue about singers? Didn't anyone pick up the majestic poetry of Strangegrey?



the twinkle-toed faggot's behind the whale


Dude can write and do it so eloquently.
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Postby ttango1 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:14 pm

Didn't notice that at the end he sings the end to OA and sounds great.
He's talented, they're talented and no matter what comes of it at the end, 11 new songs will be added to the legacy.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:19 pm

geez... your av just keeps getting bigger & bigger! };CPP

stevew2 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:jss saved their sorry butts & they just toss him aside like yesterdays meatloaf. jer only had to deal with them for what? a week? give me a freakin` break. boo bleepin hoo.


They didn't diss me....They didn't act very professional the way things were handled, but hey, like someone told me at the time, "Welcome to the music business." No sweat....I think where some people get confused about things is because I felt that Neal said personal things about my wife when he had no idea about her or her character, and that's what pissed me off. Besides, how did I become a topic of conversation here anyway?
Sorry bud,but you were dissed, thank god they did it to you before you joined the band.Augeri was dissed, and Arnel wil be dissed also. Neal wants a vocal that he can play guitar to,nothing else.Check out his quotes,. "I missed not having a lead singer to play with anymore. It will be interesting how this circus pans out
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:27 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:geez... your av just keeps getting bigger & bigger! };CPP

stevew2 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:jss saved their sorry butts & they just toss him aside like yesterdays meatloaf. jer only had to deal with them for what? a week? give me a freakin` break. boo bleepin hoo.


They didn't diss me....They didn't act very professional the way things were handled, but hey, like someone told me at the time, "Welcome to the music business." No sweat....I think where some people get confused about things is because I felt that Neal said personal things about my wife when he had no idea about her or her character, and that's what pissed me off. Besides, how did I become a topic of conversation here anyway?
Sorry bud,but you were dissed, thank god they did it to you before you joined the band.Augeri was dissed, and Arnel wil be dissed also. Neal wants a vocal that he can play guitar to,nothing else.Check out his quotes,. "I missed not having a lead singer to play with anymore. It will be interesting how this circus pans out
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Postby strangegrey » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:25 am

Rockindeano wrote:Why argue about singers? Didn't anyone pick up the majestic poetry of Strangegrey?


the twinkle-toed faggot's behind the whale
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Dude can write and do it so eloquently.


Dude, that's *your* poetry, not mine. The above quote is rather blatant plagarism. I remember you saying something like that about 6-7 months ago...It was so perfectly stated, I needed to borrow it from you. ;)
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