OT: Hillary Healthcare '08

[Deb]

No, I'm not shallow, I'm responsible, or at least I'm learning to be. I have lived through circumstances you can't even imagine, so don't even.. If my job ended tomorrow, I would go and get another job, hell three jobs if I had too, to pay my way. I've worked retail, check out girl, waitress, shit cleaner picker upper at my mother's hospital you name it. I'd do it again if I had to.

That's easy to do when you have no one but yourself to take care of. I worked a few of those when I was single too. You're completely clueless. (How's that for a change from ignorant or stupid?)

It doesn't take away the idea that we really are responsible for our lives. When we depend on others, like our government for our creature comforts, we're at their mercy and that's not a healthy place to be.

Don't usually take part (lol or even read these political threads). But just had to say.........good on ya scarygirl! Wish more young adults had your attitude instead of sitting on their lazy asses expecting the world to be handed to them......scared of a little hard work. I have a friend who's a single mother and she never complains, works her jobs and has 2 of the best raised kids I've ever met. It CAN be done.

DItto..or go find a rich guy,marry him,divorce him,take him for $2 mil and try to make everyone believe you earned it..HA.. So many other women do it,its like a new job field !

LOL, don't fool yourself, some men do it too.

[weatherman90]

The Don Dokken Beard Era. I had no idea such an era existed.

Are you serious? I'd never seen that before... Hard to believe it's him! Everyone else is still pretty recognizable, though. You might be able to consider "One Live Night" as another Beard Era...

I know - I didn't recognize him at all either. I've got to buy DVD one of these days...along with "Live from the Sun".

[jrnychick]

Some of the British readers could probably speak to this better than I can, but national health is not all it's cracked up to be. In MANY cases if you want to see a specialist for something, you have to pay completely out of pocket to see a private physician. My uncle was diagnosed with emphazyma, and he was told he would have to wait 3+ months to see a specialist through national health. He ended up going private, and one of my cousins paid for it. People who have money there go private whenever they can. Doctors in the national health system are overworked from what I've been told. I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that people in England are paying over 50% of their income in taxes. That doesn't leave much to pay ridiculously high gas prices, food prices, etc.

The only people I see who really benefit from national health are the elderly. It was nice that when my Nana didn't have ANY money that her medications were paid for and she was able to live in an assisted living facility.

I have had to pay for private health insurance for the past 8 years. When I was teaching, I had good insurance through work. The company my husband used to work for never provided health insurance or benefits of any kind. When I quit teaching, we had to find our own insurance. I now pay $508 a month for 3 people with a $1750 deductible EACH. Prescriptions and dental are not covered at all. My preexisting conditions are not covered at all. I would rather pay that each month then have to pay 50% of my income to the federal government for worse care. My kid hurt her toe a few weeks ago, and we were at the doctor's office the same day and getting x-rays that day as well. She has a hip problem that was discovered last year. We were able to get in to a pediatric orthopedic specialist within a week of seeing the pediatrician. I am simply not interested in putting more tax dollars into a system that will provide inferior care than what I'm able to get now.

[Barb]

[Little Lenny]

This is real interesting, cause here in the UK healthcare for everyone is a given, as is housing.

If you don't buy you rent privately or from a landlord or your local goverment or council as it is known,( you also have the right to buy a local government home( to be honest these houses are built a lot better and are more spacious!).

In fact there has just been a directive that so many millions of new home that are leased either through your local government ( council) or through a trust has been given the go ahead to be built..

If I need to see my GP or go to the hospital I don't have to pay.

And no, before anyone says it our taxes are not massive because of this,

this year is the UK's 60th year of having healthcare for all

[scarygirl]

No, I'm not shallow, I'm responsible, or at least I'm learning to be. I have lived through circumstances you can't even imagine, so don't even.. If my job ended tomorrow, I would go and get another job, hell three jobs if I had too, to pay my way. I've worked retail, check out girl, waitress, shit cleaner picker upper at my mother's hospital you name it. I'd do it again if I had to.

That's easy to do when you have no one but yourself to take care of. I worked a few of those when I was single too. You're completely clueless. (How's that for a change from ignorant or stupid?)

It doesn't take away the idea that we really are responsible for our lives. When we depend on others, like our government for our creature comforts, we're at their mercy and that's not a healthy place to be.

Don't usually take part (lol or even read these political threads). But just had to say.........good on ya scarygirl! Wish more young adults had your attitude instead of sitting on their lazy asses expecting the world to be handed to them......scared of a little hard work. I have a friend who's a single mother and she never complains, works her jobs and has 2 of the best raised kids I've ever met. It CAN be done.

DItto..or go find a rich guy,marry him,divorce him,take him for $2 mil and try to make everyone believe you earned it..HA.. So many other women do it,its like a new job field !

LOL, don't fool yourself, some men do it too.

Yeah, K-Fed. He saw a fading pop star and went in for the kill.

[Rip Rokken]

Here's what I think of Hillary Clinton...

Plunge her, Don!

I shared that picture with another musician who knows Don pretty well, telling him that D.D. was our best chance against Hillary, and his response was classic:

"He does have the gift of gab but he would spend too much time trying to get laid in The White House. Good try though."