Heart's setlist missing too much to close

[Rockindeano]

Fallen from Grace - unbelievable chorus and song I would love to hear live.

Jesse Harms & Sammy Hagar tune....KILLER! I have a demo of that with Hagar on vocals....brilliant.

Fuckin Jesse Harms. Me and that dude got so fucked up one night in SoCal, closed the bar down, and somehow stole a bottle of Yukon Jack from some Mexican liquor store. Crank called Cronin and I was doing impersonations of KC on the phone, very drunk. Think I belted out, In My Dreams.:roll: I was making fun of the Limp Wrister, and Jesse passed out. We both passed out in the car. Was awakened by some gas station attendant at 800AM.

[Johnny Mohawk]

Okay, so for you people who say Heart is abandoning their hits, take a closer look at the setlist.
-Bebe Le Strange
-Kick It Out
-Straight On
-Love Alive
-Alone
-These Dreams
-Dog And Butterfly
-Even It Up
-Magic Man
-Crazy On You
-Barracuda

These 11 tunes were all rock radio hits from the 70's and 80's. These are NOT obscure album cuts from their early days, these are recognizable radio friendly tunes.
They also add half a dozen songs from their most recent album. Obviously, those tunes aren't nearly as familiar to most, but it is their latest album and they are trying to promote it (something people have been complaining that Journey has NOT been doing). The Zeppelin covers is something that Heart has ALWAYS done. Like it or not, Led Zep is one of their biggest influences and they like to pay homage. Besides, they are one of the very few artists out there who can actually do those songs justice.

The mid to late 80's Heart tunes are NOT the songs that made the band who they are. In fact they alienated many of their die-hard fans with their output during that period. They do still play a couple songs from those albums, so they are not ignoring them.

Heart's crowd is the classic rock crowd. How often do you hear "Never" or "All I Wanna Do..." on classic rock radio? The tunes that have stood the test of time with their major audience are the ones that they are indeed performing.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I would stick to the Bad Animals cd and the self titled '86 cd. What monster hits those 2 produced.

Heart (85), Bad Animals (87) and Brigade (90) - 3 of th best female fronted rock CDs ever.

I agree. Hope I don't catch hell for this but I would like to also add that during that same period of time there was an all female rock band in Japan who reminded me a lot of Heart and I liked their music just as much. They also did a few Zeppelin covers as well. These videos below are so 80's it ain't even funny, but at the time they were very cool. First vid has some broken English lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXwVGmU36lQ

This next song is all in English, Obviously singing in English was one of their biggest problems, but the music is cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosP3d0H4Bs

And this last one was one of their most popular songs of all, called "I'm a Hurricane."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbbDBrHQCOg

[Eric]

Okay, so for you people who say Heart is abandoning their hits, take a closer look at the setlist.
-Bebe Le Strange
-Kick It Out
-Straight On
-Love Alive
-Alone
-These Dreams
-Dog And Butterfly
-Even It Up
-Magic Man
-Crazy On You
-Barracuda

These 11 tunes were all rock radio hits from the 70's and 80's. These are NOT obscure album cuts from their early days, these are recognizable radio friendly tunes.
They also add half a dozen songs from their most recent album. Obviously, those tunes aren't nearly as familiar to most, but it is their latest album and they are trying to promote it (something people have been complaining that Journey has NOT been doing). The Zeppelin covers is something that Heart has ALWAYS done. Like it or not, Led Zep is one of their biggest influences and they like to pay homage. Besides, they are one of the very few artists out there who can actually do those songs justice.

The mid to late 80's Heart tunes are NOT the songs that made the band who they are. In fact they alienated many of their die-hard fans with their output during that period. They do still play a couple songs from those albums, so they are not ignoring them.

Heart's crowd is the classic rock crowd. How often do you hear "Never" or "All I Wanna Do..." on classic rock radio? The tunes that have stood the test of time with their major audience are the ones that they are indeed performing.

Never and Looks could Kill are rock radio staples.......

[Johnny Mohawk]

Eric wrote;
Never and Looks could Kill are rock radio staples.......

Personally, I NEVER hear "Never" (or If Looks Could Kill) on classic rock radio. Doesn't mean they're not good songs, but the fact is, they were not written by Heart and they are not as popular with their fanbase as their 70's hits are.

[lights1961]

HEART KICKS ASS!! i have loved them since the dream boat annie days.. .....BARACUDA is just killer!!! as is magic man and their versions of the zep tunes...awesome.

have been to two of their shows.
Rick

[STORY_TELLER]

Fallen from Grace - unbelievable chorus and song I would love to hear live.

Jesse Harms & Sammy Hagar tune....KILLER! I have a demo of that with Hagar on vocals....brilliant.

Fuckin Jesse Harms. Me and that dude got so fucked up one night in SoCal, closed the bar down, and somehow stole a bottle of Yukon Jack from some Mexican liquor store. Crank called Cronin and I was doing impersonations of KC on the phone, very drunk. Think I belted out, In My Dreams.:roll: I was making fun of the Limp Wrister, and Jesse passed out. We both passed out in the car. Was awakened by some gas station attendant at 800AM.

How is it you're married again...?

[STORY_TELLER]

I have to say, I'm let down that Heart won't play the 80's era songs. I prefer those to their earlier stuff.

[conversationpc]

Funny how everyone complains that Journey's setlist is all about the "dirty dozen", yet still have a problem with Heart for not doing the same thing.

Yup. Casual fans have a different outlook, don't they?

No kidding. How many times have you heard people on this board bitch about bands not doing deeper into their catalouge and just playing the "big" hits. Heart has gotten past that putting in songs like Dreamboat Annie and Bebe Le Strange. If I never heard any song from their 1985 self titled in concert I'd be perferctly fine with that. They can stay in their 70's catalouge for the whole show as far as I'm concerned. Just can't please the chronically discontent.

Yet you bitch and moan about Kansas doing the same thing.

[Angiekay]

Yet you bitch and moan about Kansas doing the same thing.

No, they just SUCK in concert...period. Doesn't matter what they play. Not to mention the fact they only play their TWO hits after an hour of boredom.

[Johnny Mohawk]

Kansas rules!

[WalrusOct9]

I haven't liked Heart's set list for the last 5 years. They have completely abandoned everything that made them great to concentrate on the early material and Led bloody Zeppelin covers.

Yep, i totally agree.

OK, so the early material is considered more hip these days, but to just simply ignore their 3 biggest selling records is just ludicrous. Why they can't mix it up a little is a mystery to me, would probably shift a few more tickets too.

I don't think they're ignoring those records as much as they don't feel any connection to them since most of that stuff wasn't written by the band.

And um...Andrew, you're fucking awesome dude, but isn't their early stuff what made them great? "Alone" and all those mid-80's tunes were okay for what they were, but they could've been recorded and released by anyone since they just came from generic professional 80's songwriters. Sure, Ann sang the shit out of them but they weren't really Heart. No different than Cheap Trick's "The Flame" or Aerosmith's "Don't Wanna Miss A Thing." Successful, but not really having much to do with the bands who recorded them.

Cheap Trick and Aerosmtih continue to play a selection of ALL their hits live - including these two. That is my point.

Yeah, but CT and Aerosmith have one song like that. Heart has 3+ albums full of that crap. As far as I know they still do "Alone" and a couple others from the era, they're just not using those LP's as the main basis of their set since they had little to do with the creation of them. They pretty much sacrificed the integrity of their band to stay alive in the 80's, and maybe they're not comfortable with that decision in hindsight?

[Rockindeano]

Kansas rules!

Yeah in NCAA basketball, not in music. Angie was right, looks like you're watching the survivors of Deliverence up on a stage playing grabass music. Those grizzled up old fuckers are donning Depends and metamucil on stage.

[conversationpc]

Kansas rules!

Yeah in NCAA basketball, not in music. Angie was right, looks like you're watching the survivors of Deliverence up on a stage playing grabass music. Those grizzled up old fuckers are donning Depends and metamucil on stage.

Ross, Cain, and Schon are about the same age.

[Johnny Mohawk]

Johnny Mohawk wrote:
Kansas rules!

rockindeano wrote;
Yeah in NCAA basketball, not in music. Angie was right, looks like you're watching the survivors of Deliverence up on a stage playing grabass music. Those grizzled up old fuckers are donning Depends and metamucil on stage.

I can get behind the Jayhawks too. Though, maybe they'd be better if Steve Walsh was running the point.

[conversationpc]

Yet you bitch and moan about Kansas doing the same thing.

No, they just SUCK in concert...period. Doesn't matter what they play. Not to mention the fact they only play their TWO hits after an hour of boredom.

So much for catering to your fanbase, huh?

I love the fact that Kansas pisses you off so much.

[NealIsGod]

Yet you bitch and moan about Kansas doing the same thing.

No, they just SUCK in concert...period. Doesn't matter what they play. Not to mention the fact they only play their TWO hits after an hour of boredom.

So much for catering to your fanbase, huh?

I love the fact that Kansas pisses you off so much.

Yeah, everyone has their buttons that are fun to push. Kansas is one of Angie's.

[lights1961]

Yet you bitch and moan about Kansas doing the same thing.

No, they just SUCK in concert...period. Doesn't matter what they play. Not to mention the fact they only play their TWO hits after an hour of boredom.

So much for catering to your fanbase, huh?

I love the fact that Kansas pisses you off so much.

Yeah, everyone has their buttons that are fun to push. Kansas is one of Angie's.

left overture was the greatest LP ever during this time period (well maybe not) ---beating grand illusion by far!! only LP better was infinty or cant tune a piano cant tune a fish... (if i remember that title correctly


kansas is great in BB but the DRAKE BULLLDOGS have a 20 game win streak.. fantastic this winter here. the bulldogs could be one of those sleepers in the NCAA tourny.
but they havent played a duke or NC or Georgetown-- -we will know more after the butler braket buster game.

Rick

Rick
Rick

[jrnyman28]

Even on Passionworks (CBS 82) they were becoming more commercial.

"Allies"...I remember that song faintly. Used to like it, should probably visit itunes to make sure

**nevermind...already posted***

[jrnyman28]

PS. As much as I love Heart - All I Wanna Do is one of the worst songs in recorded music history.

A song that says it is alright to be a slut, have a one night stand, steal a man's sperm and keep his kid away from him....what's not to like??

[Angiekay]

Yet you bitch and moan about Kansas doing the same thing.

No, they just SUCK in concert...period. Doesn't matter what they play. Not to mention the fact they only play their TWO hits after an hour of boredom.

So much for catering to your fanbase, huh?

I love the fact that Kansas pisses you off so much.

Puhleeze, I don't care about them enough for them to piss me off. I've said it before, I don't mind their music but...and I repeat, they just suck in concert...period.

Besides, brainiacs, this topic is about Heart, not Kanshit.

[Red13JoePa]

I love their Brigade album..

All I Want To Do is Make Love to You is a nice tune as is It Was Nothin' At All

If this wasn't you, I wouldn't do this.
But since it is you, and you're the biggest GEEK about minutia like spelling and bullshit like that I must point out that Nothing At All was off the self-titled '85 album (Nancy on vox, too sounding awesome).

The only thing I want to hear from Heart's old period are Straight On and Even It Up.

Other than those, I'll take the great shit off Heart, Bad Animals (Never, Alone, Who Will You Run To?, Nothing At All, These Dreams, There's The Girl) and through Black On Black II and Back To Avalon

[jrnyman28]

My first concert ever was Heart's self-titled tour. Loved it. Love that music as much or more than the origianl classics. I understand Heart didn't care for the direction they were pressured to take in the 80's but the music is solid because they are great musicians/singers. It connected with a huge audience and sustained the band throught the 80's. Without it I am not sure the band would be still touring. So, while I understand WHY they feel that way, I would like to think they could understand why we feel the way we do. Those songs may have been written by other people but we loved them because they were recorded by HEART.


BTW I LOVED Battle Of Evermore from the Singles soundtrack. Maybe they could drop the other Zep covers and just play that one, leaving room for an 80's/90's hit or two.

[X factor]

I love their Brigade album..

All I Want To Do is Make Love to You is a nice tune as is It Was Nothin' At All

If this wasn't you, I wouldn't do this.
But since it is you, and you're the biggest GEEK about minutia like spelling and bullshit like that I must point out that Nothing At All was off the self-titled '85 album (Nancy on vox, too sounding awesome).

The only thing I want to hear from Heart's old period are Straight On and Even It Up.

Other than those, I'll take the great shit off Heart, Bad Animals (Never, Alone, Who Will You Run To?, Nothing At All, These Dreams, There's The Girl) and through Black On Black II and Back To Avalon

Oooo...I do believe it was ANN who sang NOTHING AT ALL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPBY-B8pK1w

[conversationpc]

Puhleeze, I don't care about them enough for them to piss me off. I've said it before, I don't mind their music but...and I repeat, they just suck in concert...period.[/color][/size][/b]

I agree that they are an acquired taste. The first Kansas album I purchased was "Leftoverture" simply because I wanted to have the album with "Carry on Wayward Son" on it. I couldn't stand the rest of the songs but I listened to it many more times because the intricate song arrangements were kinda interesting and I ended up loving the album and eventually got into their whole catalogue.

Anyway, it's a matter of preference as to if they suck in concert or not. They have a fairly strong hardcore following that thinks otherwise and I've yet to catch a bad show by them. True, Walsh's voice has been shot since the early 90s but he's a great keyboard player and the other guys are top notch also, not to mention that the re-addition of David Ragsdale on violin and guitar has really re-energized them as a band onstage.

Anyway, to each his own.

[X factor]

Okay, so for you people who say Heart is abandoning their hits, take a closer look at the setlist.
-Bebe Le Strange
-Kick It Out
-Straight On
-Love Alive
-Alone
-These Dreams
-Dog And Butterfly
-Even It Up
-Magic Man
-Crazy On You
-Barracuda

These 11 tunes were all rock radio hits from the 70's and 80's. These are NOT obscure album cuts from their early days, these are recognizable radio friendly tunes.
They also add half a dozen songs from their most recent album. Obviously, those tunes aren't nearly as familiar to most, but it is their latest album and they are trying to promote it (something people have been complaining that Journey has NOT been doing). The Zeppelin covers is something that Heart has ALWAYS done. Like it or not, Led Zep is one of their biggest influences and they like to pay homage. Besides, they are one of the very few artists out there who can actually do those songs justice.

The mid to late 80's Heart tunes are NOT the songs that made the band who they are. In fact they alienated many of their die-hard fans with their output during that period. They do still play a couple songs from those albums, so they are not ignoring them.

Heart's crowd is the classic rock crowd. How often do you hear "Never" or "All I Wanna Do..." on classic rock radio? The tunes that have stood the test of time with their major audience are the ones that they are indeed performing.

Excellent post. Oh, and btw- alot of those 80's songs? They ARE covers (as they were written by Holly Knight and her ilk)
Heart's early output rules. End of story...

[WalrusOct9]

I was gonna say...you're bitching about Heart doing covers then wanting them to do songs that...are basically covers.

[lights1961]

Yet you bitch and moan about Kansas doing the same thing.

No, they just SUCK in concert...period. Doesn't matter what they play. Not to mention the fact they only play their TWO hits after an hour of boredom.

So much for catering to your fanbase, huh?

I love the fact that Kansas pisses you off so much.

Puhleeze, I don't care about them enough for them to piss me off. I've said it before, I don't mind their music but...and I repeat, they just suck in concert...period.

Besides, brainiacs, this topic is about Heart, not Kanshit.

kansas was my first concert back in 1977 up at ames ia. before you needed MTV gimmicks....back then it was all about music.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I am willing to test my skills and say that since Heart and Journey will be at the same show, I bet Arnel is going to sing "Without You" Heart's version. I wouldn't be surprised if this song also is included on the Journey CD as well, since no one's really done a remake of that tune since Mariah.

Below is the link to Heart singing "Without You." Note the "add-lib" that Heart adds to the song. This is the version that Arnel would sing in the 80's and then I would sing in the 90's when I had joined up with one of the other original AMO band members to form another band. Very hard song but when accomplishing the objective on stage, it really has an incredible effect on the audience. By the way, Arnel did this song live much better then Heart did on this live video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrI1dZuimfo

[Journey/Survivor]

A song that says it is alright to be a slut, have a one night stand, steal a man's sperm and keep his kid away from him....

That's one of the problems I have with that song. The biggest problem in fact.