Saint John wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Rick wrote:Voyager wrote:I am all for Arnel singing for Journey on a concert tour since Steve Perry is unwilling or unable to do so. But why would they re-record the classics?
I heard that WalMart approached Journey about redoing the classics, and bypassing the middleman. It's a cash grab for Journey. They aren't doing it out of disrespect for the music, they're doing it for the same reason they're still touring. They need the money.
They're doing it because Perry can no longer prevent them from doing so.
Steve tried his hardest to protect the legacy. His once proud Michaelangelo looks like a retarded Charlie Brown but hey, after all, it is what it is right? Dollars.
I disagree. I think Perry is the one that tarnished the "legacy" more than anyone (if such a thing even exits). Perry took all creative control, fired Ross and perhaps the world's greatest drummer, quit the ROR tour, toured with a shit band instead of his "brothers" in a childish sort of "ha ha" manner, only became interested when they were ready to move on with Rolie and Chalfant, completely screwed that incarnation by suddenly wanting back in, recorded an album with no intention of following it up, and backed out on the reunion tour. For
those reasons I am glad that they are rerecording the GH. Those songs belong to
Journey. Journey isn't one man, it's an ever-changing evolution of musicians and incarnations (save Neal Schon). The rerecords to me are partly Journey's way of saying "Fuck you, Steve Perry" for the reasons I previously listed. Can't say that I disagree. And no matter what they do, nothing can ever tarnish Journey's back catalog. They've stood the test of time, proven every critic wrong and are too secure in our hearts and memories for any rerecord to tarnish. That said, I hope the new album and rerecords sell well. No one has worked harder over the last 30+ years than Neal Schon.
I disagree. Journey, is Journey in name only, but when a certain incarnation of "Journey" made all those wonderful songs, Steve Perry was a member. Not Steve Augeri, not JSS and not AP. Argue this all you want, but those vocals from 1978-1996 are Steve Perry's. That time period should be preserved. You are saying that Journey today is like Journey in 1983 and that is just horseshit. Has Perry done some bad stuff? Sure. He admitted so in BTM, however, like I said, The dirty dozen, the money making hits and records, He was a viable member, a prominent songwriter, and arguably, his instrument was the most important. What if Neal lost his way? What if he had serious arthritis, couldn't play and kind of slopped his way through the songs?
Steve Perry, with all his faults, gets my respect, for stepping down when
he thinks he can no longer do justice to the name Journey. While we all here(except Joepa-he's senile anyway), want Perry to do something, he has retired at the top. He didn't embarrass himself like many others out there today. See Kevin Cronin, Toto and of course Dokken. Those guys all blow now, and no one can ever say Perry sucked. He never sucked on a CD, or a live setting.
How can you say Perry tarnished the legacy? There was one rough patch, ROR, where personnel was traded in. We don't know what happened there, in fact no one does except Herbie, Perry, Neal and Princess. That album while not great or even good, was definitely not an embarrassment. Red 13 and Generations, are embarrassments, especially Generations. I don't see Perry's name anywhere on those releases. I commend Neal and First Lady for continuing, but they know that if Steve were still around, things would be different.
To further dispute your argument Dan, Perry asked them to leave the Legacy alone. The mere fact that they continued on with the name, Journey, and the results are less than inspiring and coincidentally, Perry was absent. That proves how important he was.
