Re-Recording The Classics and Perry's Involvement

[EightyRock]

Yeah, because they have to ground a money-making operation simply because the singer decided to bail out and hang 'em up. They're as much Neal and Jon's songs as they are Perry's. God forbid Neal and Jon try to *gasp* earn some money and do what they like doing!

And like I said in another thread - he probably thought there was no way they could continue on without the almighty "Voice," so he figured he was safe only signing a ten-year deal. Joke's on him - they replaced him (and replaced him and replaced him ) Journey's still out there playing the songs and he's sitting on his ass cashing royalty checks. To each his own, I guess. Too bad Perry didn't know that the band Journey could continue on without him. Maybe he would have signed a 25 year deal then.

Nobody is saying they shouldn't go "do what they like doing". How many times has Neal said he's sick of the dirty dozen and how he was going to write kick ass NEW MATERIAL with his revolving door of singers? Jouney may be on the road without Perry, but in no way have they been "continuing on without him" in any new, relevant or creative way. If they're still relying on remaking hits with singer #3, post Perry, I would say the joke is on them, not him. If he would have known they'd be that creatively deficit without him, he probably would have "signed a 25 year deal" with them to make sure they wouldn't run those songs into the ground. Today's Journey has yet to prove they are even a blip on the classic rock radar screen without the "almighty Voice"....as you put it. They had the opportunity to prove themselves as a creative new force with JSS, but they feared cutting the cord with the Voice. Enter Arnel....the closest thing to Perry that Schon could find during a late night vodka binge watching Youtube. Before that, he said JSS was the second coming. Prior to that, he said it was Augeri.

I think the people that object to the rerecording of the classics see Journey as using Perry as their constant crutch to fall back on when all their projects (Arrival, Augeri, Red-13, Generations, JSS) fail to produce enough revenue to support their overinflated lifestyles.

[Journey69]

I must say that if Perry did in fact sign this 10 year agreement (that has expired) that allows these songs to be performed by anyone, so long as he gets his royalty checks, I'm VERY disappointed. While I will certainly listen to the re-recorded versions (because I'm a fan of the music), it just seems odd to me that he would be okay with it. At the end of the day, most of the songs that have been re-recorded are HIS songs (either wrote or co-wrote all, but Faithfully, I believe), and I can't believe that he wouldn't have a deeper attachment to that music! Didn't The Sopranos have to get ALL of their permission to use "Don't Stop Believin'" in their finale???? That wasn't that long ago. Did the agreement expire after that? Oh well. I guess at the end of the day, it's just music and not that big of a deal. I simply thought based on everything I've heard Perry say over the years, that there would be NO WAY he would EVER sign off on someone else recording those songs and calling themselves "Journey"!


John from Boston

How do you know they are checks and not direct deposit?

[bluejeangirl76]

lmao... have you guys given any thought to just how much MONEY Perry stands to earn on the those Walmart sales?

Depends on the original agreement.
I assume as a co-writer, he's still getting paid.

I have a Q... does this mean their GH re-hashing will not be able to include LTS?
Being he is the only writer - must SP grant permission to record that?

[StyxCollector]

Folks, re-read my post. At this point with no other agreements superceding a normal mechanical license, they can pretty much do what they want as long as they pay Perry. EVen if Perry doesn't like it, there's not much he can do.

[Journey69]

I must say that if Perry did in fact sign this 10 year agreement (that has expired) that allows these songs to be performed by anyone, so long as he gets his royalty checks, I'm VERY disappointed.

John from Boston

You know John, he may have underestimated the levels to which Neal and Jon would stoop to try and earn a buck. He might have figured they'd retire the name with some of the dignity of the legacy left in tact before the ten year agreement expired.

That is the biggest ASSHAT statement I've seen in a long time! How do you know this? Do you know them personally? What have they done to make anyone think that..Until they actually release the greatest hits redone with Arnel,I seriously wish people would STFU and quit acting like its out and people are buying it.. I'm sure the police and the eagles are getting back together just for their fans and not getting paid for it..

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Listen...your venom for Perry is VERY clear, but you're a bit off on some of your points! First and foremost, to say that "the joke's on him" might be the MOST fucking ridiculous statement I've ever read! The joke is on him, how??? You make it sound like Journey has gone on to some fame and fortune without the guy! This band has done absolutely NOTHING without Perry at the helm, regardless of how you think he was "replaced"! If anything, I would say the joke is on the rest of the band who are out busting their asses, touring nonstop, and probably making less money than Perry is! Shit...dig up a thread from Jeff after he joined Journey last year. The guy flat out said he had people who had no idea Perry wasn't in the band, and this was 10 freakin' years, and one singer removed, from the time he left the band!

I respect the hell out of both Jon and Neal, as musicians. I feel they are both immensely talented. That said, nothing pisses me off more than dopes who babble about how Journey existed before Perry and after Perry! I guess I can acquisce to the point of "existing", but that's about it. They didn't do anything before Perry was added...They haven't done anything since Perry left...and aside from playing the songs that Perry's voice made famous in 5000 seat venues, they won't do anything in the coming years! In spite of your hatred towards Perry, it doesn't change what the facts are of the "Journey" chronology! They're right there, in black and white, for everyone to see!

As far as ownership of the songs, I do agree with you that they are equally Jon's, Neal's, and Perry's, on songs where all three wrote! As I stated previously, I think the songs should belong to the writer (which apparently isn't always the case in the world of music). I also think ALL writers should have a say on how the material is used and performed. I realize from what I've read here, that isn't always the case, but I think it's just how things should be. I think Perry's legacy is forever cemented and further strengthened every 6 months, when "Journey" decides that they don't have a vocalist who can replicate the only sound anyone knows them for!


John from Boston

Easy there, killer. No "venom" for Perry here. I'm just fucking tired of hearing people say that the remaining 3 people who PLAYED on Journey's greatest hits (lead guitar, piano and bass, remember those instruments?) can't do what they want with their songs. Hell, Perry made them jump through hoops to do anything with the glory material for 10 years, and now the agreement's over - so they should be able to do what they want with it.

And for the record, the joke is on Perry for thinking that Journey couldn't continue without him. He should have made it a 25 year agreement if he's THAT concerned about "his" songs...

[mikemarrs]

as much as i like perry and everything the bottom line is these guys can't stand around the rest of their lives waiting on if and when perry ever decides to record again.by the time '97 rolled around they were looking at perry pulling another stunt and keeping them waiting another ten years like he did after raised on radio.history was repeating itself and these guys knew it.they said screw waiting again and they went and got another singer,can you blame them?

[Voyager]

I'm just fucking tired of hearing people say that the remaining 3 people who PLAYED on Journey's greatest hits (lead guitar, piano and bass, remember those instruments?) can't do what they want with their songs. Hell, Perry made them jump through hoops to do anything with the glory material for 10 years, and now the agreement's over - so they should be able to do what they want with it.

And for the record, the joke is on Perry for thinking that Journey couldn't continue without him. He should have made it a 25 year agreement if he's THAT concerned about "his" songs...

I agree - to hell with those sensitive, cocky, arrogant, controlling singers. Somebody should kick them all to the curb and re-record their hits with soundalike singers. Elton John, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, Steve Perry... who needs them? The rest of their band members own the music as much as the singers do.

[Stoneyman]

This thread and many others will go on until it hits the shelves. I really dont see what there is to worry about. The move to rerecord the hits will make Journey and Perry a few bucks, but it wont bring them into some new public consciousness. They will still play the same arenas and have the same legacy. The followers at the Heart/Journey/Cheap Trick concert will notice but wont care. This is a summer background music affair that is meant to bring back memories, and I am sure Arnel will be fine. Everyone who sees and hears Arnel will still know that Steve Perry was great.
Neal and Jon can record cd's until they are old and gray and it probably wont impact the music world in any significant way. The only difference is that if they record with Perry, raspy or not, they get Grammy nods. Perry brings instant credibility. Journey wont get that from critics or from their own fans anymore anyway. They are a summer tour background music act these days and that is fine by me. I drink a few brews and sing out loud to my favorite hits. If Perry is singing them fine, but if not, Perry is what I hear in my head. That my friends never fades away.
They should give it away with the new release, because I really dont think any discerning music fan would choose not to have the original recording. Sounding "like" Perry and actually "being" Perry are 2 different vibes.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

I agree - to hell with those sensitive, cocky, arrogant, controlling singers. Somebody should kick them all to the curb and re-record their hits with soundalike singers. Elton John, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, Steve Perry... who needs them? The rest of their band members own the music as much as the singers do.

Okay, dude. You wanna know which one of those singers you listed is not like the others? Seems to me Steve Perry is the only one NOT still performing the songs. Why should Journey cut all ties to songs that they made when Steve Perry was at the helm? They made them famous. There's no denying that. But because Perry left, it's a crime to re-record Wheel In The Sky with their current singer? It's supposedly being packaged with the new album - presumably so people know who will be singing when they see Journey in concert. It's not being sold by itself and attemping to be passed off on an unsuspecting public.

[Journey69]

as much as i like perry and everything the bottom line is these guys can't stand around the rest of their lives waiting on if and when perry ever decides to record again.by the time '97 rolled around they were looking at perry pulling another stunt and keeping them waiting another ten years like he did after raised on radio.history was repeating itself and these guys knew it.they said screw waiting again and they went and got another singer,can you blame them?

Finally,someone with reason! Journey is an 80's band people! Even if Perry came back,how many people would go crazy..This forum and a couple more..It still wouldn't matter much,Even JSS said it,most people still think he's in the band..lol I don't think that is entirely true,but they might have a top 20 hit if he came back..And if they did an Escape type album maybe 2. Trial By Fire,how many hits with Perry were on there? 1 ! and it was fair to partly cloudy,oh sure the women fawned over it,but that why they wrote it..Neal and Jon did Bad English,They did Soul SirkUs,Neal did Hardline,which in my opinion was the best of the 3..How far did any of them go? Even with baby jesus(JSS)..How far did they go? No where! It is hard to start an 80's type band today..Music has to compete with computer games,xbox 360,wii.. Journey is a recognizable name,Maybe we should bitch at Queen for moving on without Freddy..PS..I listened to Arrival for 3 months straight,so did my bro.I got tons of people hooked on it also,more because of the song..All of the things..Then they listened to the rest of the album and they all called me and thanked me for turning them onto it..Was Perry fronting the band? NO..But everyone liked it reguardless..And yes,its also about money,they have to get paid for their time..

[ohsherrie]

I must say that if Perry did in fact sign this 10 year agreement (that has expired) that allows these songs to be performed by anyone, so long as he gets his royalty checks, I'm VERY disappointed.

John from Boston

You know John, he may have underestimated the levels to which Neal and Jon would stoop to try and earn a buck. He might have figured they'd retire the name with some of the dignity of the legacy left in tact before the ten year agreement expired.

That is the biggest ASSHAT statement I've seen in a long time! How do you know this? Do you know them personally? What have they done to make anyone think that..Until they actually release the greatest hits redone with Arnel,I seriously wish people would STFU and quit acting like its out and people are buying it.. I'm sure the police and the eagles are getting back together just for their fans and not getting paid for it..

Hey bitch, I didn't say I KNEW any fuckin' thing. I have my opinion and it's based on what I've seen these asswipes do without Perry for the last 11 years, which amounts to nothing other than existing on the legacy Perry's voice gave them.

Now they're proving once again that they need him to survive because they had to re-record the legacy and give away the new shit with it so they can say they sold X# units of the new stuff.

They're parasites bleeding the legacy of their glory years with Perry dry.

[Voyager]

I agree - to hell with those sensitive, cocky, arrogant, controlling singers. Somebody should kick them all to the curb and re-record their hits with soundalike singers. Elton John, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, Steve Perry... who needs them? The rest of their band members own the music as much as the singers do.

Okay, dude. You wanna know which one of those singers you listed is not like the others? Seems to me Steve Perry is the only one NOT still performing the songs. Why should Journey cut all ties to songs that they made when Steve Perry was at the helm? They made them famous. There's no denying that. But because Perry left, it's a crime to re-record Wheel In The Sky with their current singer? It's supposedly being packaged with the new album - presumably so people know who will be singing when they see Journey in concert. It's not being sold by itself and attemping to be passed off on an unsuspecting public.

I know, it's just hard for many of us to see Journey take the classics and have a soundalike singer re-record them. There have been many sins committed on both sides on the fence - but this one takes the cake for me. I think this will be the ultimate back-stabbing. Those classics should be left alone. It's not like re-recording them will make the band members any money. They are doing it totally out of spite for Perry's past sins.

[Journey69]

I must say that if Perry did in fact sign this 10 year agreement (that has expired) that allows these songs to be performed by anyone, so long as he gets his royalty checks, I'm VERY disappointed.

John from Boston

You know John, he may have underestimated the levels to which Neal and Jon would stoop to try and earn a buck. He might have figured they'd retire the name with some of the dignity of the legacy left in tact before the ten year agreement expired.

That is the biggest ASSHAT statement I've seen in a long time! How do you know this? Do you know them personally? What have they done to make anyone think that..Until they actually release the greatest hits redone with Arnel,I seriously wish people would STFU and quit acting like its out and people are buying it.. I'm sure the police and the eagles are getting back together just for their fans and not getting paid for it..

Hey bitch, I didn't say I KNEW any fuckin' thing. I have my opinion and it's based on what I've seen these asswipes do without Perry for the last 11 years, which amounts to nothing other than existing on the legacy Perry's voice gave them.

Now they're proving once again that they need him to survive because they had to re-record the legacy and give away the new shit with it so they can say they sold X# units of the new stuff.

They're parasites bleeding the legacy of their glory years with Perry dry.

Saint John is right..You are an idiot.. Its their songs too jackass! Perry's solo crap was fair at best without Neal and Jon.. And its not your opinion..You are saying this is what they are going to and its all just speculation..They aren't doing anything wrong..All they are probably doing,is bridging the past with the present..What's wrong with that..When a greatest hits comes out and is in stores with Arnel on vox,then get back to me..Until then,its all speculation and stfu!

[Deb]

Finally,someone with reason! Journey is an 80's band people! Even if Perry came back,how many people would go crazy..This forum and a couple more..It still wouldn't matter much,Even JSS said it,most people still think he's in the band..lol I don't think that is entirely true,but they might have a top 20 hit if he came back..And if they did an Escape type album maybe 2. Trial By Fire,how many hits with Perry were on there? 1 ! and it was fair to partly cloudy,oh sure the women fawned over it,but that why they wrote it..Neal and Jon did Bad English,They did Soul SirkUs,Neal did Hardline,which in my opinion was the best of the 3..How far did any of them go? Even with baby jesus(JSS)..

Ok, that made me snicker. You're finally coming around.

I don't begrudge them for eventually moving on without Perry. Hey, they all made their decisions and they all live with them now. And IMO, SS was the best of those 3! Come on........Marco, Jeff, Neal.

[Journey69]

Finally,someone with reason! Journey is an 80's band people! Even if Perry came back,how many people would go crazy..This forum and a couple more..It still wouldn't matter much,Even JSS said it,most people still think he's in the band..lol I don't think that is entirely true,but they might have a top 20 hit if he came back..And if they did an Escape type album maybe 2. Trial By Fire,how many hits with Perry were on there? 1 ! and it was fair to partly cloudy,oh sure the women fawned over it,but that why they wrote it..Neal and Jon did Bad English,They did Soul SirkUs,Neal did Hardline,which in my opinion was the best of the 3..How far did any of them go? Even with baby jesus(JSS)..

Ok, that made me snicker. You're finally coming around.

I don't begrudge them for eventually moving on without Perry. Hey, they all made their decisions and they all live with them now. And IMO, SS was the best of those 3! Come on........Marco, Jeff, Neal.

You love me and you know it! lol I still don't think Jeff is right for this band.. I think Arnel is a better fit. He sounds enough like Perry,but just different enough..Jeff is too different..Besides ,wouldn't you rather have a new Journey and JSS album?

[Deb]

Finally,someone with reason! Journey is an 80's band people! Even if Perry came back,how many people would go crazy..This forum and a couple more..It still wouldn't matter much,Even JSS said it,most people still think he's in the band..lol I don't think that is entirely true,but they might have a top 20 hit if he came back..And if they did an Escape type album maybe 2. Trial By Fire,how many hits with Perry were on there? 1 ! and it was fair to partly cloudy,oh sure the women fawned over it,but that why they wrote it..Neal and Jon did Bad English,They did Soul SirkUs,Neal did Hardline,which in my opinion was the best of the 3..How far did any of them go? Even with baby jesus(JSS)..

Ok, that made me snicker. You're finally coming around.

I don't begrudge them for eventually moving on without Perry. Hey, they all made their decisions and they all live with them now. And IMO, SS was the best of those 3! Come on........Marco, Jeff, Neal.

You love me and you know it! lol I still don't think Jeff is right for this band.. I think Arnel is a better fit. He sounds enough like Perry,but just different enough..Jeff is too different..Besides ,wouldn't you rather have a new Journey and JSS album?

I disagree, I would rather have seen them take the Van Halen route with JSS. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

I agree - to hell with those sensitive, cocky, arrogant, controlling singers. Somebody should kick them all to the curb and re-record their hits with soundalike singers. Elton John, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, Steve Perry... who needs them? The rest of their band members own the music as much as the singers do.

Okay, dude. You wanna know which one of those singers you listed is not like the others? Seems to me Steve Perry is the only one NOT still performing the songs. Why should Journey cut all ties to songs that they made when Steve Perry was at the helm? They made them famous. There's no denying that. But because Perry left, it's a crime to re-record Wheel In The Sky with their current singer? It's supposedly being packaged with the new album - presumably so people know who will be singing when they see Journey in concert. It's not being sold by itself and attemping to be passed off on an unsuspecting public.

I know, it's just hard for many of us to see Journey take the classics and have a soundalike singer re-record them. There have been many sins committed on both sides on the fence - but this one takes the cake for me. I think this will be the ultimate back-stabbing. Those classics should be left alone. It's not like re-recording them will make the band members any money. They are doing it totally out of spite for Perry's past sins.

I understand how many people feel the same way you do. I think it must be a generational thing, too. Hell, Perry sang his last note live with Journey the year before I was born. I saw Augeri in concert before I had ever really heard any Journey song with Perry singing (I went to the Main Event Tour to see Styx and REO ). And then I got the Arrival Live 2001 DVD, learned the classics that way, THEN got into the back catalogue. Backwards, I know.

So I think I'm more understanding of the band re-recording the greatest hits because I have no memories of going to the record store to pick up Escape on the day it was released and then listening to it straight through. Or any memories of seeing Journey on the Frontiers Tour with Perry at the helm. So I do understand why so many people can be so upset.

[ohsherrie]

I must say that if Perry did in fact sign this 10 year agreement (that has expired) that allows these songs to be performed by anyone, so long as he gets his royalty checks, I'm VERY disappointed.

John from Boston

You know John, he may have underestimated the levels to which Neal and Jon would stoop to try and earn a buck. He might have figured they'd retire the name with some of the dignity of the legacy left in tact before the ten year agreement expired.

That is the biggest ASSHAT statement I've seen in a long time! How do you know this? Do you know them personally? What have they done to make anyone think that..Until they actually release the greatest hits redone with Arnel,I seriously wish people would STFU and quit acting like its out and people are buying it.. I'm sure the police and the eagles are getting back together just for their fans and not getting paid for it..

Hey bitch, I didn't say I KNEW any fuckin' thing. I have my opinion and it's based on what I've seen these asswipes do without Perry for the last 11 years, which amounts to nothing other than existing on the legacy Perry's voice gave them.

Now they're proving once again that they need him to survive because they had to re-record the legacy and give away the new shit with it so they can say they sold X# units of the new stuff.

They're parasites bleeding the legacy of their glory years with Perry dry.

Saint John is right..You are an idiot.. Its their songs too jackass! Perry's solo crap was fair at best without Neal and Jon.. And its not your opinion..You are saying this is what they are going to and its all just speculation..They aren't doing anything wrong..All they are probably doing,is bridging the past with the present..What's wrong with that..When a greatest hits comes out and is in stores with Arnel on vox,then get back to me..Until then,its all speculation and stfu!

You Shut The Fuck Up. My opinion is at least as relevant as yours and I have as much right to it. And I really couldn't care less what St John says.

Neal and Jon have given nobody any reason to think they're capable of creating anything of significance without Steve Perry. They shit on the one chance they had because he didn't sound like Steve Perry. Anybody who still thinks there's anything new of relevance to come from them is either deluded or stupid. Which are you?

[Journey/Survivor]

the songs are not Perrys alone, the band journey wrote them. Last i knew Journey has the rights to the songs---and should be able to do whatever they want with em...
sell em, remake em, re do them.Rick

Amen!

[Enigma869]

Hell, Perry sang his last note live with Journey the year before I was born. I saw Augeri in concert before I had ever really heard any Journey song with Perry singing (I went to the Main Event Tour to see Styx and REO ).

That explains EVERYTHING! Frank Sinatra was well before my time, so I certainly had no connection to the guy's music

John from Boston

[Journey/Survivor]

Yeah, because they have to ground a money-making operation simply because the singer decided to bail out and hang 'em up. They're as much Neal and Jon's songs as they are Perry's. God forbid Neal and Jon try to *gasp* earn some money and do what they like doing!

Amen, again!

I can't believe how some people are so confused as to think that Steve Perry was/is Journey. Steve Perry was an extremely important member of the band, and I love his musical contributions to the band, I'm a huge fan of his. But There was a Journey before him, there's a Journey after him, and the rest of Journey have every right to continue on and make money in the process.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Hell, Perry sang his last note live with Journey the year before I was born. I saw Augeri in concert before I had ever really heard any Journey song with Perry singing (I went to the Main Event Tour to see Styx and REO ).

That explains EVERYTHING! Frank Sinatra was well before my time, so I certainly had no connection to the guy's music

John from Boston

That'll do it, won't it. I'm kind of embarassed to admit that.

[Journey/Survivor]

Yeah, because they have to ground a money-making operation simply because the singer decided to bail out and hang 'em up. They're as much Neal and Jon's songs as they are Perry's. God forbid Neal and Jon try to *gasp* earn some money and do what they like doing!

And like I said in another thread - he probably thought there was no way they could continue on without the almighty "Voice," so he figured he was safe only signing a ten-year deal. Joke's on him - they replaced him (and replaced him and replaced him ) Journey's still out there playing the songs and he's sitting on his ass cashing royalty checks. To each his own, I guess. Too bad Perry didn't know that the band Journey could continue on without him. Maybe he would have signed a 25 year deal then.

Listen...your venom for Perry is VERY clear, but you're a bit off on some of your points! First and foremost, to say that "the joke's on him" might be the MOST fucking ridiculous statement I've ever read! The joke is on him, how??? You make it sound like Journey has gone on to some fame and fortune without the guy! This band has done absolutely NOTHING without Perry at the helm, regardless of how you think he was "replaced"! If anything, I would say the joke is on the rest of the band who are out busting their asses, touring nonstop, and probably making less money than Perry is! Shit...dig up a thread from Jeff after he joined Journey last year. The guy flat out said he had people who had no idea Perry wasn't in the band, and this was 10 freakin' years, and one singer removed, from the time he left the band!

I respect the hell out of both Jon and Neal, as musicians. I feel they are both immensely talented. That said, nothing pisses me off more than dopes who babble about how Journey existed before Perry and after Perry! I guess I can acquisce to the point of "existing", but that's about it. They didn't do anything before Perry was added...They haven't done anything since Perry left...and aside from playing the songs that Perry's voice made famous in 5000 seat venues, they won't do anything in the coming years! In spite of your hatred towards Perry, it doesn't change what the facts are of the "Journey" chronology! They're right there, in black and white, for everyone to see!

As far as ownership of the songs, I do agree with you that they are equally Jon's, Neal's, and Perry's, on songs where all three wrote! As I stated previously, I think the songs should belong to the writer (which apparently isn't always the case in the world of music). I also think ALL writers should have a say on how the material is used and performed. I realize from what I've read here, that isn't always the case, but I think it's just how things should be. I think Perry's legacy is forever cemented and further strengthened every 6 months, when "Journey" decides that they don't have a vocalist who can replicate the only sound anyone knows them for!


John from Boston

Another insanely inaccurate post. I can't count how many false and ridiculous statements were made in this post.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

I can't believe how some people are so confused as to think that Steve Perry was/is Journey. Steve Perry was an extremely important member of the band, and I love his musical contributions to the band, I'm a huge fan of his. But There was a Journey before him, there's a Journey after him, and the rest of Journey have every right to continue on and make money in the process.

I agree with you on this one. But like I said, I certainly understand why people against the re-recordings feel the way they do. But Journey has decided not to live in the past. That's their choice because they own the songs. If Perry legally can't stop them now, why shouldn't they re-record their most popular songs with the person who fans will be seeing in concert singing?

[Enigma869]

Maybe we should bitch at Queen for moving on without Freddy...

Although I hesitate to even compare the two situations, I can tell you that there are MANY people (myself included) who cringe listening to Paul Rodgers singing Queen's music! I realize that Paul Rodgers has a whole lot of fans, across the world, but I think he is HORRENDOUS on Queen's material. I watched the guy on the VH1 Rock Honors show, and I couldn't even recognize classic Queen tracks, because the arrangement of these great songs were changed so much. I realize that not everyone shares my viewpoint on the Queen issue, but I feel as though changing such classic songs as drastically as they have, doesn't honor the legacy of Freddie Mercury!

Just so I'm VERY clear on what my original point was...I NEVER EVER EVER suggested that Neal, Jon, Ross, and the "lead singer of the hour" didn't have a right to continue their music careers! I agree 100% that Perry, or no other musician should stop any other musicians from pursuing their passion. I was simply curious as to how songs that Perry had writing credits for could be re-recorded without his permission.


John from Boston

[Enigma869]

Another insanely inaccurate post. I can't count how many false and ridiculous statements were made in this post.

Bring it on, Fuckwad! I'll take your sorry ass on, ANY DAY! Tell me what's false!!!!! I'll gladly address EVERY point! You're just pissed off because I told you last week to stop sniffing Jimi Jamison's nut sack!


John from Boston

[Journey69]

Maybe we should bitch at Queen for moving on without Freddy...

Although I hesitate to even compare the two situations, I can tell you that there are MANY people (myself included) who cringe listening to Paul Rodgers singing Queen's music! I realize that Paul Rodgers has a whole lot of fans, across the world, but I think he is HORRENDOUS on Queen's material. I watched the guy on the VH1 Rock Honors show, and I couldn't even recognize classic Queen tracks, because the arrangement of these great songs were changed so much. I realize that not everyone shares my viewpoint on the Queen issue, but I feel as though changing such classic songs as drastically as they have, doesn't honor the legacy of Freddie Mercury!

Just so I'm VERY clear on what my original point was...I NEVER EVER EVER suggested that Neal, Jon, Ross, and the "lead singer of the hour" didn't have a right to continue their music careers! I agree 100% that Perry, or no other musician should stop any other musicians from pursuing their passion. I was simply curious as to how songs that Perry had writing credits for could be re-recorded without his permission.


John from Boston

Actually ,I never cared for Paul Rodgers..I didn't care for him in Bad company either.. I liked Brian Howe way better..It was like bringing Perry to Journey,not to that extent,but He helped create more hits with the way he sung..I really liked it..Paul and Queen do not fit..Why would they want that guy,surely they could find someone better..

[Enigma869]

Paul and Queen do not fit..Why would they want that guy,surely they could find someone better..

I don't disagree with a word of that statement! I was honestly SHOCKED when I heard Queen's music with Rodgers singing. I honestly thought it was AWFUL! I don't know much about Bad Company, but if Rodgers is the guy singing lead on "Feel Like Makin' Love", he can definitely sing, but doesn't belong singing Queen's music!


John from Boston

[Journey69]

Paul and Queen do not fit..Why would they want that guy,surely they could find someone better..

I don't disagree with a word of that statement! I was honestly SHOCKED when I heard Queen's music with Rodgers singing. I honestly thought it was AWFUL! I don't know much about Bad Company, but if Rodgers is the guy singing lead on "Feel Like Makin' Love", he can definitely sing, but doesn't belong singing Queen's music!


John from Boston

That is him singing..I hate that f'n song!! Check out the albums,fame and fortune,dangerous age(which is the best),here comes trouble..Oh and holy water..That was good one too..If you like Journey,check those out..Hell,I'll post a vid for you ,if I can find one..