Mother, Father ; Dissapointment?

[Blueskies]

I'm not sure how anyone could find fault with "Mother/Father"! It's a BRILLIANT song! As someone else in this thread alluded to, I believe the chorus is in fact a biblical reference. Perhaps one of our Bible thumper friends can weigh in on this


At the end of the day, I'm not sure the meaning of the song is terribly important. "Bohemian Rhapsody" is a brilliant song, and when Freddie Mercury was asked the meaning behind it, his response was "I have no idea"!


John from Boston

Biblical? It is indeed about alcohol destroying the Family. How the fuck do you thumbdicks pull biblical words out of this?

I know you are not that dense. There are a number of Journey songs have spiritual references in the lyrics, as well as spiritual references in symbols on their cover art...most significantly TBF, in lyrics and cover. I don't see how in the world you haven't seen and heard them all this time. Go read some lyrics.

[Rockindeano]

I'm not sure how anyone could find fault with "Mother/Father"! It's a BRILLIANT song! As someone else in this thread alluded to, I believe the chorus is in fact a biblical reference. Perhaps one of our Bible thumper friends can weigh in on this


At the end of the day, I'm not sure the meaning of the song is terribly important. "Bohemian Rhapsody" is a brilliant song, and when Freddie Mercury was asked the meaning behind it, his response was "I have no idea"!


John from Boston

Biblical? It is indeed about alcohol destroying the Family. How the fuck do you thumbdicks pull biblical words out of this?

I know you are not that dense. There are a number of Journey songs have spiritual references in the lyrics, as well as spiritual references in symbols on their cover art...most significantly TBF, in lyrics and cover. I don't see how in the world you haven't seen and heard them all this time. Go read some lyrics.

Fuck off Phyllis. The pimple on my asshole knows more about Journey than you do.

Yes, I am well aware of certain biblical and spiritual lyrics in their catalog.

Don't fuck with me Phyllis. Not today.

[Blueskies]

I'm not sure how anyone could find fault with "Mother/Father"! It's a BRILLIANT song! As someone else in this thread alluded to, I believe the chorus is in fact a biblical reference. Perhaps one of our Bible thumper friends can weigh in on this


At the end of the day, I'm not sure the meaning of the song is terribly important. "Bohemian Rhapsody" is a brilliant song, and when Freddie Mercury was asked the meaning behind it, his response was "I have no idea"!


John from Boston

Biblical? It is indeed about alcohol destroying the Family. How the fuck do you thumbdicks pull biblical words out of this?

I know you are not that dense. There are a number of Journey songs have spiritual references in the lyrics, as well as spiritual references in symbols on their cover art...most significantly TBF, in lyrics and cover. I don't see how in the world you haven't seen and heard them all this time. Go read some lyrics.

Fuck off Phyllis. The pimple on my asshole knows more about Journey than you do.

Yes, I am well aware of certain biblical and spiritual lyrics in their catalog.

Don't fuck with me Phyllis. Not today.

You started it and if you knew then why pretend like you don't? I see you need some more help.... Get out of the desk chair more and wash your ass daily and you won't have a pimple problem on it..

[RedWingFan]

You started it and if you knew then why pretend like you don't? I see you need some more help.... Get out of the desk chair more and wash your ass daily and you won't have a pimple problem on it..

This is your best post ever!

[Michigan Girl]

Maybe this is what they are referring to GREAT SONG, none the less!!!


http://www.blurtit.com/q433178.html

What is the seventh son of the seventh known as in Christianity?


The number seven has always been a very mystic or sacred number. It consists of four and three which are always viewed as lucky. Even among the Pythagoreans, these two numbers are accounted as lucky numbers. It is of great significance in Christianity. The number seven keeps recurring through popular mythology as well as daily life. For example there are seven deadly sins, seven heavens, seven Kings of Rome, seven seas, seven wonders of the ancient world and seven senses. Of all the numbers, seven is believed to be the most magical and mystical.

According to folk magic lore, seventh son of a seventh son is someone who is supposed to possess remarkable magical and healing powers. He is born with the gift of clairvoyance, with the ability to cast powerful spells on others. He is thought to be able to heal others by laying his hands on them.

[Blueskies]

You started it and if you knew then why pretend like you don't? I see you need some more help.... Get out of the desk chair more and wash your ass daily and you won't have a pimple problem on it..

This is your best post ever!

Well after almost 5000 it's about dang time !

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Maybe this is what they are referring to GREAT SONG, none the less!!!


http://www.blurtit.com/q433178.html

What is the seventh son of the seventh known as in Christianity?


The number seven has always been a very mystic or sacred number. It consists of four and three which are always viewed as lucky. Even among the Pythagoreans, these two numbers are accounted as lucky numbers. It is of great significance in Christianity. The number seven keeps recurring through popular mythology as well as daily life. For example there are seven deadly sins, seven heavens, seven Kings of Rome, seven seas, seven wonders of the ancient world and seven senses. Of all the numbers, seven is believed to be the most magical and mystical.

According to folk magic lore, seventh son of a seventh son is someone who is supposed to possess remarkable magical and healing powers. He is born with the gift of clairvoyance, with the ability to cast powerful spells on others. He is thought to be able to heal others by laying his hands on them.

And dont forget the seven year itch- that year when the spirit hits you and you want to go out and screw the heck out of someone you really shouldnt

[RedWingFan]

Maybe this is what they are referring to GREAT SONG, none the less!!!


http://www.blurtit.com/q433178.html

What is the seventh son of the seventh known as in Christianity?


The number seven has always been a very mystic or sacred number. It consists of four and three which are always viewed as lucky. Even among the Pythagoreans, these two numbers are accounted as lucky numbers. It is of great significance in Christianity. The number seven keeps recurring through popular mythology as well as daily life. For example there are seven deadly sins, seven heavens, seven Kings of Rome, seven seas, seven wonders of the ancient world and seven senses. Of all the numbers, seven is believed to be the most magical and mystical.

According to folk magic lore, seventh son of a seventh son is someone who is supposed to possess remarkable magical and healing powers. He is born with the gift of clairvoyance, with the ability to cast powerful spells on others. He is thought to be able to heal others by laying his hands on them.

And dont forget the seven year itch- that year when the spirit hits you and you want to go out and screw the heck out of someone you really shouldnt

mmmmm.....Marilyn Monroe.

[Michigan Girl]

And dont forget the seven year itch- that year when the spirit hits you and you want to go out and screw the heck out of someone you really shouldnt [/quote]

AHHHH Yes, Lust...wouldn't that fall into the category of the SEVEN DEADLY SINS????

[FishinMagician]

I'm not sure how anyone could find fault with "Mother/Father"! It's a BRILLIANT song! As someone else in this thread alluded to, I believe the chorus is in fact a biblical reference. Perhaps one of our Bible thumper friends can weigh in on this


At the end of the day, I'm not sure the meaning of the song is terribly important. "Bohemian Rhapsody" is a brilliant song, and when Freddie Mercury was asked the meaning behind it, his response was "I have no idea"!


John from Boston

Biblical? It is indeed about alcohol destroying the Family. How the fuck do you thumbdicks pull biblical words out of this?

I know you are not that dense. There are a number of Journey songs have spiritual references in the lyrics, as well as spiritual references in symbols on their cover art...most significantly TBF, in lyrics and cover. I don't see how in the world you haven't seen and heard them all this time. Go read some lyrics.

and listen to Generations

[Enigma869]

and listen to Generations

I wouldn't wish that torture on ANYONE!


John from Boston

[Journey2Infinity]

Seven is the perfect number, biblically. There is no specific reference to 'the seventh son' in the bible.

[Michigan Girl]

http://www.blurtit.com/q433178.html



Yeah...this article says...."according to folk magic lore".

[7 Wishes]

Mother, Father. Perhaps Journey's finest moment this side of "Little Girl" and "Trial By Fire".

I will suffer NO criticisms of that PERFECT song.

[youkeepmewaiting]

Mother, Father. Perhaps Journey's finest moment this side of "Little Girl" and "Trial By Fire".

I will suffer NO criticisms of that PERFECT song.

Wow, a fan of that song, i am impressed. One of my favourites, mastrepiece.

[7 Wishes]

You should hear Jeremey sing that song. Mind-blowing. Took me back to the Journey/BA Tour in '81.

[FishinMagician]

and listen to Generations

I wouldn't wish that torture on ANYONE!


John from Boston

I still dont see how generations is that bad. i like most of the songs on there. go ahead give me hell now

[Enigma869]

I still dont see how generations is that bad. i like most of the songs on there. go ahead give me hell now

I won't give you hell, at all. If you like "Generations", I say more power to you. While you may not see "how generations is that bad", my thoughts are the exact opposite. I don't know how ANYONE can listen to Ross Valory, Neal Schon, and Jonathan Cain singing lead vocals, and come away saying "yeah...that kicked ass"! Those guys couldn't win a Karaoke contest in a local bar, between the three of them! It's one thing to change your singer every time the mood strikes you, but at least let the lead singer do the singing! While I thought Augeri struggled to hit Perry's notes, I thought the guy was a decent singer, and the singing on "Generations" should have been left to him. Thank god suck-ass CD's make good coasters for my coffee cup


John from Boston

[Red13JoePa]

Mother, Father. Perhaps Journey's finest moment this side of "Little Girl" and "Trial By Fire".

I will suffer NO criticisms of that PERFECT song.

Trial By Fire is a sneaky good little song.

The "treasures in the jars of clay fallen down but not destroyed" meant the Journey songs, mothballed for a while but never gone.

And it's musically very subtle and understated but fantastic none the less.

[7 Wishes]

Interesting factoid, Red. Cool.

Smitty's so dead-on on TBF that EVERY musician I played that for assumed it was a loop.

Castronovo's a hell of a player and the band is lucky to have him, but he was the backbone of the rhythm section.

[Red13JoePa]

Interesting factoid, Red. Cool.

Bah, not fact, just always been one of my own boyish thories (bolstered by the fallen-down jar of clay w/ the scarab on it lying on the beach in the cover), flying of course in the face of my subscription to the theory that he never intended to revive the sung-of treasures in the jars of clay in the live arena at that point.

[nutz4Neal]

It's a deep and sad tune, but I don't get the biblical reference in this one.

Although many love to hear it at a show, it always makes me feel sad. It does have meaning 'tho, don't mean to slight it, but at a show I want to feel good, have fun and dance. I'll save this one for my private times at home.

[Rockindeano]

You should hear Jeremey sing that song. Mind-blowing. Took me back to the Journey/BA Tour in '81.

Are you high? Jeremey SUCKS on this song. I cringed the whole way through.

Gimme a break. He sucks.

By the way, Journey/BA was 83, not 81.
Get your shit straight.

PS- Jeremey sucks.

[Saint John]

You should hear Jeremey sing that song. Mind-blowing. Took me back to the Journey/BA Tour in '81.

Are you high? Jeremey SUCKS on this song. I cringed the whole way through.

Gimme a break. He sucks.

By the way, Journey/BA was 83, not 81.
Get your shit straight.

PS- Jeremey sucks.

I've stated this before and I'll do so again. Jeremey posted a clip some time ago of him singing Mother Father and it was to many, less than good. Honestly, it's the only song I've ever heard him truly struggle through. That song is just too tough to sing. 7 Wishes, your assertion is absurd.


PS Hey Dean, is "On the pole" your way of coming out of the closet?

[MarcelJordan]

By the way, Journey/BA was 83, not 81.

Which of those shows did you attend? Sometime during those days, they had Hagar and Aerosmith triple bill.

[Rockindeano]

By the way, Journey/BA was 83, not 81.

Which of those shows did you attend? Sometime during those days, they had Hagar and Aerosmith triple bill.

BA opened for Journey in 1983, on Journey's Frontiers tour.

The majority of the Frontiers tour, BA opened, but also played his own gigs when Journey took nights off. Who'd have thunk BA would eventually become better than Journey?

[Rockindeano]

You should hear Jeremey sing that song. Mind-blowing. Took me back to the Journey/BA Tour in '81.

Are you high? Jeremey SUCKS on this song. I cringed the whole way through.

Gimme a break. He sucks.

By the way, Journey/BA was 83, not 81.
Get your shit straight.

PS- Jeremey sucks.

I've stated this before and I'll do so again. Jeremey posted a clip some time ago of him singing Mother Father and it was to many, less than good. Honestly, it's the only song I've ever heard him truly struggle through. That song is just too tough to sing. 7 Wishes, your assertion is absurd.


PS Hey Dean, is "One the pole" your way of coming out of the closet?

LOL, I knew you would get me on that.

Jeremey posted that clip of himself, and it is flat out awful. Dude, if your are going to blow, feel free to NOT put your shit up on MR for all of us to see. Some of your stuff is ok, but most sucks. You and I are going to butt heads, and and I am just about ready to smack your ass around.

[MarcelJordan]

By the way, Journey/BA was 83, not 81.

Which of those shows did you attend? Sometime during those days, they had Hagar and Aerosmith triple bill.

BA opened for Journey in 1983, on Journey's Frontiers tour.

The majority of the Frontiers tour, BA opened, but also played his own gigs when Journey took nights off. Who'd have thunk BA would eventually become better than Journey?

Sure. Luckily BA can't replace himself!

Im with you on BA btw. Might as well ask this here. Any idea why the tune Diana was not released?

[Shadowsong]

7th sun
could be astrological?

http://thezodiac.com/7thhouse.htm

Who knows
but I like a good shadow mystery!



Anyway
Still think it has to do with a celestrial phenomenia.

[Rhiannon]

PS Hey Dean, is "One the pole" your way of coming out of the closet?

LOL, I knew you would get me on that.

I think you need a round of wedge if you're going to sit on the pole.