Steve Perry as new lead singer for Journey, how would he do?

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Postby conversationpc » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:16 am

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Kaj wrote:New? and is everything about highpitch? Rob Halford cannot reach the same high notes as he once could be still he is so much
better than Ripper Owens.
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No way in hell is Halford in his current form anywhere near a match for Tim 'Ripper' Owens. Not even close (and it's not just the screams). Out of respect for Halford, whose work and voice I love I haven't yet shared his raw live vocals sans music but I any more silly talk and I may have to. :twisted:

As for the topic at hand - it's kind of an old lion, young lion scenario. Both are kings of the jungle but provided he has looked after his voice (which Halford appears not to have) then give me current Perry any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Like Arnel said - it's Perry's gig if and when he wants it.


I find Ripper Owens' voice to be kinda irritating. I'll take Halford any day of the week.
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Postby Panther » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:39 am

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Andrew wrote:You know what....I whole heartedly believe Steve could still do it if he wanted to. I believe he still has some pipes, even if they are a bt older these days.

Make some tempo/pitch changes and fans would be putty in his hands. It is possible - but does he have the desire/drive/confidence to do this?

As of right now - it seems not.


Crazy....

As I was getting this post together, "Open Arms" came on the radio. :shock:

I heard about this interview on my Morning Show...did research to find it -
:arrow: seems like it could fit Mr. Perry as well as Mr. Seinfeld:

An excerpt from this interview: Renee Z. asks Jerry a question from a Fan:
http://movies.aol.com/celebrity-intervi ... ext-format

Renée Zellweger: "...Alright Kevin, from Richmond VA, why has it taken you so long to do a starring role in a movie after 'Seinfeld'? We all wanna know. Why has it taken so long? What have you been doing?"

Jerry Seinfeld: "Not enough product out there for you Kevin? Not enough movies? Not enough TV? With the Internet on top of it, you sitting around twiddling your thumbs? Do you really need me? I don't know why. I guess because I'm old, I'm rich and I'm tired."

Renée Zellweger: "Because you didn't have to?"

:arrow: Jerry Seinfeld: "I didn't have to."


An interesting reference. As for the part I've highlighted in red.... Throughout musical times there seems to be an inner circle of an elite few. Not just rock, but all music genres. From the masters of old (Bach, etc) right on through to what can now be considered "classics" in rock, blues, jazz, etc.... There are but a few that seem to defy the naysayers of their time, and here we are today, in modern times harking back to the days of pure talent and the drive to create music at its purest. It seems that Mr. P is within that elite few.

In answer to the Seinfeld question..... YES we really need his talent back out there! The force with which he held our attention (and still does to this day, regardless of all the peripheral crap everyone loves to talk about) is much needed and wanted in this age of..... well... a load of crap that is being churned out by nobodies who only wish to make their millions and not leave an indelible mark to last throughout generations. Who cares if he doesn't have to? lol Music at its finest (at least in rock circles) is dying a slow death. Yeah, it took the whole J band to create the "J" sound. BUT that sound pales in comparison to Mr. P's natural raw talent. THAT is what we are missing. He's selling himself short if he doesn't believe he still has it in him to create something with that god given voice of his (upbeat, or turned down a gazillion notches).

Meh... someone pass me the pipe. I think I'd like to dream a bit longer. :lol:
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Postby squirt1 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:41 am

I thought Arnel mentioned it was Perry's band. I bet that will NEVER happen again.
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Postby TRAGChick » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:47 am

Panther wrote:An interesting reference. As for the part I've highlighted in red.... Throughout musical times there seems to be an inner circle of an elite few. Not just rock, but all music genres. From the masters of old (Bach, etc) right on through to what can now be considered "classics" in rock, blues, jazz, etc.... There are but a few that seem to defy the naysayers of their time, and here we are today, in modern times harking back to the days of pure talent and the drive to create music at its purest. It seems that Mr. P is within that elite few.

In answer to the Seinfeld question..... YES we really need his talent back out there! The force with which he held our attention (and still does to this day, regardless of all the peripheral crap everyone loves to talk about) is much needed and wanted in this age of..... well... a load of crap that is being churned out by nobodies who only wish to make their millions and not leave an indelible mark to last throughout generations. Who cares if he doesn't have to? lol Music at its finest (at least in rock circles) is dying a slow death. Yeah, it took the whole J band to create the "J" sound. BUT that sound pales in comparison to Mr. P's natural raw talent. THAT is what we are missing. He's selling himself short if he doesn't believe he still has it in him to create something with that god given voice of his (upbeat, or turned down a gazillion notches).


Meh... someone pass me the pipe. I think I'd like to dream a bit longer. :lol:


Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say!! :D
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Postby annie89509 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:09 am

We have been down this road before. Do we even dare to think about the possibility of an SP comeback? For us latecomers to the Journey fan-wagon, there will never be closure. For, as long as there's still breath, there will always be that glimmer of hope .....
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Postby finalfight » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:36 am

conversationpc wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Kaj wrote:New? and is everything about highpitch? Rob Halford cannot reach the same high notes as he once could be still he is so much
better than Ripper Owens.
Magic is what counts!


No way in hell is Halford in his current form anywhere near a match for Tim 'Ripper' Owens. Not even close (and it's not just the screams). Out of respect for Halford, whose work and voice I love I haven't yet shared his raw live vocals sans music but I any more silly talk and I may have to. :twisted:

As for the topic at hand - it's kind of an old lion, young lion scenario. Both are kings of the jungle but provided he has looked after his voice (which Halford appears not to have) then give me current Perry any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Like Arnel said - it's Perry's gig if and when he wants it.


I find Ripper Owens' voice to be kinda irritating. I'll take Halford any day of the week.


That may be the case and on most recordings I also prefer the tone of Halford's voice but after hearing their respective unedited vocals there is no doubt who is the better singer these days. Not even close.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:43 am

I was really unimpressed w/Halford on the VH1 Rock Honors show... actually, I thought all the bands were horrible except for Queen. It was embarrassing. Not only did R.H. not hit any of his good notes, but his phrasing didn't even go along with the songs -- like he was just jerking around with the delivery to the point that it no longer fit. Maybe that performance is on YouTube.
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Postby finalfight » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:48 am

Rip Rokken wrote:I was really unimpressed w/Halford on the VH1 Rock Honors show... actually, I thought all the bands were horrible except for Queen. It was embarrassing. Not only did R.H. not hit any of his good notes, but his phrasing didn't even go along with the songs -- like he was just jerking around with the delivery to the point that it no longer fit. Maybe that performance is on YouTube.


I am going to search for it now. I am tempted to post some soundbites but it feels like a bit of an expose kind of like finding out that the great wizard of Oz was merely an old man behind a curtain. Its almost better to remember what was and enjoy what could still still achievable on recordings with the help of today's technology.

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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:57 am

I prefer:

Real butter to margerine
Real whipped cream to Cool Whip
Real sugar to Aspertame

The REAL Voice of Journey to any substitute.

It's about more than calories in the food, it's about the quality and richness of the taste. And more than high notes in the music, it's about the quality and richness of the sound.

Listening to the substitutes is like being on a diet. Image I don't need a musical diet for my health.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:09 am

ohsherrie wrote:I prefer:

The REAL Voice of Journey to any substitute.



So by my count you have 3 considered "REAL Voice"s of Journey, right, in perry, Jeff and J?
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:15 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:I prefer:

The REAL Voice of Journey to any substitute.



So by my count you have 3 considered "REAL Voice"s of Journey, right, in perry, Jeff and J?


I mean anybody who isn't Steve Perry. I loved what Jeff brought to the band, and I love the way Jeremey sings the songs, but I still prefer Perry over anybody.
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Postby ScarabGator » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:19 am

Steve Perry is an icon. I love those other guys but even they would say the same thing. Steve Perry is simply a gift from heaven...oh shit, not the mancrush again!!! :shock:
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Postby Playitloudforme » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:41 am

ScarabGator wrote:Steve Perry is an icon. I love those other guys but even they would say the same thing. Steve Perry is simply a gift from heaven...oh shit, not the mancrush again!!! :shock:


Enjoy it. You know you want to! LOL
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Postby Johnny Mohawk » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:09 am

Finalfight wrote;
Out of respect for Halford, whose work and voice I love I haven't yet shared his raw live vocals sans music but I any more silly talk and I may have to.


Share please!
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:12 am

I consider Gregg Rolie, Steve Perry, and Steve Augeri the real voices of Journey.

Can't judge Arnel yet.
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Postby CatEyes » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:17 am

Jeremey wrote:Steve Perry could change the songs and the melodies to suit his current voice, and if the tour was 20 shows instead of 80 shows, he'd be just fine. Steve's problem with touring isn't that he's lazy - I just think there's so many bad memories of what the road took out of his life, that there's a real fear of getting back on that merry go round. I think there's a perfection aspect to it and a fear aspect to it.


During the WOF there was one interview where the interviewer asked Perry what it was like to be back with his former bandmates and Perry replied (this is not verbatim folks - I am medicated) "There was the initial rush of energy and then within 15 minutes, it was just like old times - it all came back" And he wasn't smiling.

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