My issues with Obama

[Eric]

Okay - here is where I have an issue with him: (My comments follow)

Supports affirmative action in colleges and government. (I cannot support anyone who thinks racism against whites actually helps minorities and is in any way fair)

President must abide by international human rights treaties. (The President of the USA's most important task is keeping its citizens safe - by all means necessary)

Willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Kim Jung Il & Hugo Chavez. (Disgusting. These cruel SOB's hate us, want us to die and they shouldn't be given any time from the prez.)

Invest in our relationship with Mexico. (What have we BEEN doing???)

Meet with enemy leaders; it's a disgrace that we have not. (See above...we shouldn't negotiate we people who starve their own people. We should kill them)

Is distrusted by Israelis. (He better not hurt our relationship with one of best friends...that's all I'm gonna say about this)

Capping credit card interest rates at 30% is not enough. (Up to the individual to be responsible - bottom line)

Modify some of the fraudulent & predatory lending practices. (Ditto)

Bad idea to over-classify information. (No its not...we don't need or want to know about some of the threats this country face on a minute-by-minute basis)

Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (So..are you blaming the gun makers for how the criminals use them? Lets focus on the criminals)

Address minority health needs by more coverage & targeting. (Lets address EVERONE's health needs Barack)

The problem with health care is about affordability. (I feel its more about choices...not that cost isn't a concern, but choices will fix cost I think)

Pressure insurance & drug companies to change. (No...lets not DICTATE to companies to change, and stop using Pharmaceuticals as an easy scapegoat. They improve people's lives dammit!)

Employers are going to have to pay or play. (WOW...commie bastard)

Need political will to accomplish universal coverage. (NO to Universal coverage..its too expensive and this isn't a small socialistic country)

Believes health care is a right, not a privilege for the few. (BASIC care is a moral right..)

Will expand health coverage & allow meds to be re-imported. (I'm not so sure - in the age of terrorism - that we want to import meds without strict guidelines)

Al Qaida is stronger now than in 2001 as Iraq distracted us. (BS. They brought down the Twin Towers and brought us to our knees in 2001...now, they are losing battles in Iraq)

No presidential power for secret surveillance. (If you aint doing anything wrong - don't worry about it)

No holding US citizens as unlawful enemy combatants. (They are what they are in this case. If you embrace Al Qaeda - then you are an enemy combatant...without a country)

If attacked, first help victims then prevent further attacks. (Huh? Can't we do both? The President's job is protect us...DO IT)

Close Guantanamo and restore the right of habeas corpus. (Guantanamo has been misrepresented by the liberal media. Anyway who investigates finds the criminals who want to kill us all and our way of life to be getting fair and decent treatment - including AC! We have extracted a lot of valuable info that has SAVED U.S. LIVES from this detention center. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ATTACKED AGAIN. If it aint broke..don't fix it!)

Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Adios Obama! Unify the country and don't pander to a few ingrates. Immigrants have learned English for 200 years)

Fight attacks on workers' right to organize & strike. (Unions are bad for workers and this country. Their time has come and gone)

Make the minimum wage a living wage. (Get a different job, acquire new skills, and don't have 10 babies)

Tax cuts for the rich do not create jobs. (BS. Supply Side Economics work. Poor people don't create jobs is more like it)

Obama will strengthen unions and workers' rights. (See above)

Stop any efforts to privatize Social Security. (Social Security is not sustainable and I don't want to work for 40 years and have nothing from FICA dammit. Let me invest some of it MY WAY)

Bush tax cuts help corporations but not middle class. (Cutting taxes for companies DOES help the middle class for one, and he has put more of MY money into MY hands)

Last thing we need now is a permanent tax cut. (Yeah okay...I'm looking at my property tax bills and laughing)

Iraq takes our eye off al Qaeda & Afghanistan. (Not true - but we do need to offer greater incentive to strengthen our depth in our armed forces)

Saddam did not own and was not providing WMD to terrorists. (Saddam HAD WMD's at one point, and out intelligence thought he still did..along with intelligence of many other countries. He also had plans to re-start his program and sponsored Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist acts. Lets not start sticking up for poor Saddam here Barack....COME ON)

Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; "they know already". (I'm no homophobe - but its easier for kids NOT to deal with this type of thing at an early age)

Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Were gays ever slaves?)

Ban racial profiling & eliminate disparities in sentencing. (Racial profiling is effective...bottom line. We're at war with Islamic Fascists, and they are likely to look and act a certain way)

Battles legislatively against the death penalty. (WHY??????)

Supports alternative sentencing and rehabilitation. (Depends...you can't be coddling criminals)

No extra penalty for gang association. (This is loony)

Wants videotaping of all capital punishment interrogations. (Sometimes we need to do what we have to do and we don't need everyone to hear about it)

Questions harsh penalties for drug dealing. (Huh????)

Do not lower drinking age from 21 to 18. (I'm a hippy here...but if they can die in war..they should be able to grab a cold one at a bar - they're gonna drink anyway)

"Supreme Court was wrong on school anti-integration ruling". (Making blacks and white mingle aint good if it leads to violence and ruins neighborhood schools)

Incentives to hire a million teachers over next decade. (This number is absurd)

Wants to pay teachers more money & treat them like professionals. (They get paid plenty, especially for the hours they work)

Supports Free public college for any student with B-average (This is just a stupid thing to say or support. Higher Education ought not become a right...and a B average???)

"We cannot drill our way out of our addiction to oil." (We can buy ourselves some time though!)

Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (We have oil and we should use it)

Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Silly number again)

Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (MAN-made global warming is a fairy tale)

Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (See above)

"Give Katrina contracts to locals, not to Halliburton." (If Halliburton is the best at it...then so be it)

Three months working on minority students recycling. (I don't even know what this means, but I don't like focus on one race)

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/ ... -Obama.php
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/aim-says- ... -tax-bill/

[conversationpc]

Couldn't you come up with any more than that?

[Wally_Hatchet]

Good job Eric, and so true.

Hillary is more hated, yet I must admit more qualified to be Prez than Barrack Hussein Obama is. Yet I can't help but just love watching her lose.

I'm holding my nose and voting for McCain. Lesser of 3 evils.

[Rockindeano]

Eric, thanks for that.

I will gladly pull the handle for Obama.

You're a fucking close minded pig fucker.

[lights1961]

actually if you listen close... here is his whole line..

CHANGE/HOPE/ MORE CHANGE/ some moer hope... repeat... repeat repeat. more jibber/jabber.. then dream/hope change.

repeat for 90 minutes..

Rick

[Rockindeano]

Good job Eric, and so true.

Hillary is more hated, yet more qualified to be Prez than Barrack Hussein Obama.

And what's your sorry excuse? So the guy has a mulsim middle name?

I hope he raises all of your taxes...fuckin inbred stupid fuckers.

[RedWingFan]

You're a fucking close minded pig fucker.

Nice detailed analysis and defense of his positions, Oh Open Minded one.

[Arkansas]

Does he carry a Muslim faith, or is he truly United Church of Christ?
And has his name always been Barrack Hussein? Wasn't it something else, and he changed it?
Also, he's a long time smoker. Did he quit just because of the Presidential race?

Btw, I kinda like the guy...so I'm just curious.

And I love seeing Hillary getting beat. She's very unlikeable. Even all the years she lived here in Arkansas, she was an elistist and constantly working on the next ladder rung.


later~

[Eric]

Eric, thanks for that.

I will gladly pull the handle for Obama.

You're a fucking close minded pig fucker.

You can't even debate me on issues. You haven't made a good point yet on this topic. Tell me specifically...what you like about Obama.

[conversationpc]

Obama's faith should be as much of an issue as what was made of Romney's, especially considering that he attended church and became friends with a black supremacist, separatist minister. This is the same minister who gave an award to Calypso Louie.

[weatherman90]

Eric, thanks for that.

I will gladly pull the handle for Obama.

You're a fucking close minded pig fucker.

Typical from a liberal. When all else fails, break out the nonsensical insults. I think you forgot to throw in "Nazi".

[conversationpc]

Eric, thanks for that.

I will gladly pull the handle for Obama.

You're a fucking close minded pig fucker.

Typical from a liberal. When all else fails, break out the nonsensical insults. I think you forgot to throw in "Nazi".

Deano's gonna pull Obama's handle?

[7 Wishes]

[quote="Eric"]Okay - here is where I have an issue with him: (My comments follow)

Supports affirmative action in colleges and government. (I cannot support anyone who thinks racism against whites actually helps minorities and is in any way fair)

I agree with you in theory. However, if Republicans continue to slash education budgets, and continue to underfund inner-city schools, there is no alternative. The only way out is to help improve the opportunities of THIS generation of minorities, so the next one can benefit.

President must abide by international human rights treaties. (The President of the USA's most important task is keeping its citizens safe - by all means necessary)

You, sir, are an ignoramus. Come join us in the civilized world. This is one of the most ignorant positions I have ever heard postulated anywhere. Americans will be just as safe if we stick to standards employed by almost every progressive government anywhere. Disgusting.

Invest in our relationship with Mexico. (What have we BEEN doing???)

It IS a good idea done in the proper way. The sooner Mexico gets on its feet, the sooner they'll stop crossing the border.

Is distrusted by Israelis. (He better not hurt our relationship with one of best friends...that's all I'm gonna say about this)

Actually, Obama is the preferred candidate of more Jews than McCain.

Capping credit card interest rates at 30% is not enough. (Up to the individual to be responsible - bottom line)
Modify some of the fraudulent & predatory lending practices. (Ditto)

Right. The more personal debt individuals amass, the better off the economy is. Come on. At a certain point, delinquents will stop paying and file bankruptcy because they can't even afford the interest payments.

Bad idea to over-classify information. (No its not...we don't need or want to know about some of the threats this country face on a minute-by-minute basis)

You're misstating his position. He is talking about the Freedom of Information Act...we don't need another lying Republican with bullshit stories about yellow cake from the Niger.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Nobody has used the word nazi or fascist yet tonight, however, it certainly is more than applicable upon reading Eric's interminable propagandizing shit list.
Dude, you badly need a civics class brush up.

[MarcelJordan]

We do know that Barack is a Hebrew name right?

[The_Noble_Cause]

"Give Katrina contracts to locals, not to Halliburton." (If Halliburton is the best at it...then so be it)

It was a no-bid contract deal - something definately not in line with the tenets of Republican free market orthodoxy.
Are you even in touch with your own political ideology, sir?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Kim Jung Il & Hugo Chavez. (Disgusting. These cruel SOB's hate us, want us to die and they shouldn't be given any time from the prez.)

Meet with enemy leaders; it's a disgrace that we have not. (See above...we shouldn't negotiate we people who starve their own people. We should kill them)

Have you ever heard the quote: "Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."
I'll give you a clue, no, it wasn't said by Larry the Cable Guy.

On top of that, aren't we currently negotating with N. Korea? Also, didn't Bush last month give Saudi Arabia (where the 9-11 hijackers were from) some 20 billion in arms?

There is such transparent hypocrisy at work here I could just shit.

[conversationpc]

Have you ever heard the quote: "Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."
I'll give you a clue, no, it wasn't said by Larry the Cable Guy.

On top of that, aren't we currently negotating with N. Korea? Also, didn't Bush last month give Saudi Arabia (where the 9-11 hijackers were from) some 20 billion in arms?

There is such transparent hypocrisy at work here I could just shit.

You are 100% correct...and might I add that Glenn Beck has said just this same thing numerous times.

Good to have you throwing down again...Stick around this time.

[7 Wishes]

Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (So..are you blaming the gun makers for how the criminals use them? Lets focus on the criminals)

The hyper-aggressive smear campaigns headed by the NRA have eliminated waiting lists, national registries, and background checks. Eric, do you really need an AK-47 to take down Thumper or Bambi? REGULATE WHO BUYS GUNS...MANDATORY BACKGROUND CHECKS...NATIONAL REGISTRY. THAT will help solve a LOT of problems.

Address minority health needs by more coverage & targeting. (Lets address EVERONE's health needs Barack)
he problem with health care is about affordability. (I feel its more about choices...not that cost isn't a concern, but choices will fix cost I think)

Pressure insurance & drug companies to change. (No...lets not DICTATE to companies to change, and stop using Pharmaceuticals as an easy scapegoat. They improve people's lives dammit!)

What's this? A Republican concerned about the health care crisis in America? MINORITIES ARE THE PEOPLE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD HEALTH CARE BECAUSE OF THEIR INCOME LEVELS. But instead of covering them for medically necessary procedures, they amass tens of thousands of dollars in debt. And hospitals cannot legally refuse to treat someone, so the taxpayers wind up footing the bill in the long term. You have NO chance of fucking with me on health care issues. I worked in health care administration for many years.

You "think" choices will fix cost? Well, my friend, since Bush took office, health care premiums have MORE THAN DOUBLED. Wrong. Another angle on the horrendous "trickle-down" theory that DOES NOT WORK.

Right, let the drug companies continue to exploit people for risky experimental procedures, and give them a free pass to continue to lie. The FDA serves no other purpose than to kiss the ass of the Republican electorate and constituency at this point, anyway. You offer no reasons as to WHY insurance companies should continue to be able to deny medically necessary procedures? That is only the tip of the iceberg. You are WAY OFF here, Eric.

Employers are going to have to pay or play. (WOW...commie bastard)
Need political will to accomplish universal coverage. (NO to Universal coverage..its too expensive and this isn't a small socialistic country)
Believes health care is a right, not a privilege for the few. (BASIC care is a moral right..)
Will expand health coverage & allow meds to be re-imported. (I'm not so sure - in the age of terrorism - that we want to import meds without strict guidelines)

Right, communism. You're thinking of a dictatorship or an autocracy. And I do agree with you in principle that companies should not be required to participate, BUT...you have to start somewhere. It's better than no change at all.

Studies indicate that the average American will actually save money in the long term if Universal Health Care came to fruition.

I want the best for my fellow man and fellow American, and if that means I have to make small sacrifices in the short term to ensure even the poorest receive the best available treatment, so be it. This is the difference between an empathetic Democrat and a self-serving Republican.

I agree with you on the re-importing issue...that problem would be solved with better enforcement of pharmaceutical regulations.

Al Qaida is stronger now than in 2001 as Iraq distracted us. (BS. They brought down the Twin Towers and brought us to our knees in 2001...now, they are losing battles in Iraq)

They're losing SOME battles. AQ is now larger than it ever has been and has more power than ever before. Afghanistan is falling apart, and we cannot maintain the troop surge indefinitely. Plus, the only reason the "surge" is working is that the United States has "befriended" Sunnis throughout Iraq.

[Voyager]

It's time for us to abandon redneck cowboy politics and go back to what made America great. We never became the greatest nation on earth by running an arrogant, cocky, bully dictatorship - but we almost lost that ranking because of it. It's time to lead the world with intelligence, tolerance, and diplomacy again. Not tolerance of terrorism, but tolerance of people who don't agree with us. The days of "you're for us or against us" are over.

I'm not going to waste my time trying to sell Obama to people who won't listen. That would be as difficult as trying to deprogram Muslim extremists.

Go Barack!

[squirt1]

Converpc- The Saudi's are also under attack. Their nut job fanatics want to take down their monarchy.They recently caught 278 and I bet they are executed already. Then there comes that $10.00 a gallon gas if there is a takeover. Another country to AlQuida. Many countries around the globe are fighting radical muslim terrorists. Indonesia, France,Spain and England are constantly thwarting attacks. Even China and Russia have had border conflicts. We are in WWIII over religion and fanatictical zealots who are living back 1,000 yrs. We will be at war for the rest of my life and probably my childrens.It started in the 1970's. Read up on it.

[squirt1]

Thank for more edu ERIC !!!! Obama has only 2 terms out of Il and wanted to invade Pakistan 5-6 mo ago when we had Mushariff. He told us no ,we could not go up into those 5,000 mts with caves because he feared the factions in his country. After Buhtto getting killed he got voted out. So I don't know what we have now ,but they have 29 nukes.

[Voyager]

Obama has only 2 terms out of Il and wanted to invade Pakistan 5-6 mo ago when we had Mushariff.

Well that would be fucking stupid wouldn't it... to actually hunt down the guy who is responsible for 9/11? What the hell is he thinking??? We all know that it would be much smarter to go and invade another sovereign country like Iraq that poses no threat to us. Let's go impose American Democracy on another dictatorship. We had victory in Iraq - now let's go take on Iran, Russia, and China! If they're not for us, they must be against us. Let's kick their asses!

[Shadowsong]

Rhymes with Osama
If the name fits
Too close for comfort
You have to aquit...

[Voyager]

Rhymes with Osama
If the name fits
Too close for comfort
You have to aquit...

Get used to it: President Obama.

[Shadowsong]

OJ won too
So what else is new
We're used to getting screwed

[Voyager]

OJ got off too...
doesn't mean a thing!

It takes an Obama to catch an Osama.

[Shadowsong]

Could be...
Loose lips sink ships
Like minds think alike...

[Voyager]

Could be...
Loose lips sink ships
Like minds think alike...

Fo shizzle me nizzle. Busta Rhymes is in the hizzle-house!

[Shadowsong]

Whatever...
Least I write my own lines...