Stream Journey Live In Concert?

[ProgRocker53]

Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'

A song that's 450% better live than in studio

[JRNYLIVE]

so much for ending it on a high note....

you make me.....sleep....

[Journey69]

I gave after DSB. Couldn't hold the stream at all.

I wasn't that impressed anyway, sorry, but... meh.
Anything else after AWYWI?

Nice write the guy off after his 1st concert,while no doubt he's shitting his pants.. Please.. Perry is gone! Give the guy a shot.. I've heard Hagar sound like shit with VH.. The next time I saw them,he sounded awesome..

[The_Noble_Cause]

I was in the 2nd row for JSS's first show. I actually enjoyed it and there were now accent issues. I could hear what he was singing.

I've heard the boots for most of the shows during the first couple of weeks with JSS in the band and none of them were all that great, including the Indy show where I was eight rows from the stage. He sounded okay in parts but boy did he sound bad on a lot of others, including that god-awful shriek during, I forget which, "Only the Young" or "Ask the Lonely" at the Atlanta show.

Anyway, Arnel didn't sound that bad and he ought to be given time to improve just like we did with JSS. Same treatment for both guys as far as I'm concerned.

This shouldn't even be up for debate. I imagine Jeff himself would probably own up to his first few nights being pretty awful. He told most of the doubters on this forum (including Deano) that he would get better, just to wait and see. And sure enough, he did.

[RedWingFan]

I gave after DSB. Couldn't hold the stream at all.

I wasn't that impressed anyway, sorry, but... meh.
Anything else after AWYWI?

Nice write the guy off after his 1st concert,while no doubt he's shitting his pants.. Please.. Perry is gone! Give the guy a shot.. I've heard Hagar sound like shit with VH.. The next time I saw them,he sounded awesome..

Journey69 you're letting your Susie show!!!! Careful.

[conversationpc]

I was in the 2nd row for JSS's first show. I actually enjoyed it and there were now accent issues. I could hear what he was singing.

I've heard the boots for most of the shows during the first couple of weeks with JSS in the band and none of them were all that great, including the Indy show where I was eight rows from the stage. He sounded okay in parts but boy did he sound bad on a lot of others, including that god-awful shriek during, I forget which, "Only the Young" or "Ask the Lonely" at the Atlanta show.

Anyway, Arnel didn't sound that bad and he ought to be given time to improve just like we did with JSS. Same treatment for both guys as far as I'm concerned.

This shouldn't even be up for debate. I imagine Jeff himself would probably own up to his first few nights being pretty awful. He told most of the doubters on this forum (including Deano) that he would get better, just to wait and see. And sure enough, he did.

That's my whole point. Jeff kicked it into another gear after some time off and adjustment to the in-ear monitors.

[dcvader]

good for you.

That does it. I've lost the connection completely.

If at any point the band was considering letting Ross have a go at "Gone Crazy" now would work really great for me.

I know that I have been ANTI-Arnel since day one. My stance has never changed.

I thought that I would give Arnel a shot tonight. Guy's this is brutal.

Any version of JSS, Augeri or even Chalfant is better.

Have fun in Vegas.

Are you serious...Listen to the boots from Journey's Atlanta show right after JSS joined the band. That was way worse than anything I've heard tonight.

I was in the 2nd row for JSS's first show. I actually enjoyed it and there were now accent issues. I could hear what he was singing.

I can't say my peace? I was not mean, rude etc. I sure as hell did not mess with you.

[Lula]

Get the Damn Mic away from Ross please.......no more bong for Ross before the show.

Haha...I think he was just talking slow so the Chileans could understand.

yeah loud and slow.... i hate that!

[RedWingFan]

I can't say my peace? I was not mean, rude etc. I sure as hell did not mess with you.

Dude you can say whatever the hell you want as long as you keep that wonderful apple av.

[Greg]

I listened (via internet radio) to the whole concert with no drop outs or rebuffers. I'll probably get flamed for this, but so what. Sorry guys, my honest opinion is that I think it was overall horrible. Arnel did do a pretty good job on Open Arms, but come on....this is Journey we're talking about. A band that many of us feel should've been in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Maybe he'll improve over the course of the tour, but this was not a good premier for him. And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad." If you truly believe Arnel did THAT good of a job then you wouldn't need an excuse. besides, you're comparing apples to oranges with that spin. If you guys think he was brilliant. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinon and I humbly hope you guys enjoy this year's tour. But, there just isn't enough there to win me over.

I'll patiently wait for Jeff Scott Soto's next album.

[dcvader]

I can't say my peace? I was not mean, rude etc. I sure as hell did not mess with you.

Dude you can say whatever the hell you want as long as you keep that wonderful apple av.

Apple AV stays!

[conversationpc]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

[RedWingFan]

I listened (via internet radio) to the whole concert with no drop outs or rebuffers. I'll probably get flamed for this, but so what. Sorry guys, my honest opinion is that I think it was overall horrible. Arnel did do a pretty good job on Open Arms, but come on....this is Journey we're talking about. A band that many of us feel should've been in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Maybe he'll improve over the course of the tour, but this was not a good premier for him. And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad." If you truly believe Arnel did THAT good of a job then you wouldn't need an excuse. besides, you're comparing apples to oranges with that spin. If you guys think he was brilliant. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinon and I humbly hope you guys enjoy this year's tour. But, there just isn't enough there to win me over.

I'll patiently wait for Jeff Scott Soto's next album.

Do you expect anyone to take you seriously with a Voltron av????
Bring back the Art Monk av!!!

[bluejeangirl76]

I gave after DSB. Couldn't hold the stream at all.

I wasn't that impressed anyway, sorry, but... meh.
Anything else after AWYWI?

Nice write the guy off after his 1st concert,while no doubt he's shitting his pants.. Please.. Perry is gone! Give the guy a shot.. I've heard Hagar sound like shit with VH.. The next time I saw them,he sounded awesome..

What? I DID give the guy a shot, why else would I have watched it in the first place? I don't get the right not to be impressed? Sorry but, I wasn't! I KNOW Perry's gone, thanks for the newsflash. This isn't about Perry and I never said one word about him. I am capable of appreciating other singers besides him. Sheesh. But this one, I don't like.

[Greg]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

I'm not here to argue with anybody. I'm just stating my opinion. If that's what you got from TMC, so be it. I read it a lot different from that. Let's just leave it at that.

[dcvader]

I listened (via internet radio) to the whole concert with no drop outs or rebuffers. I'll probably get flamed for this, but so what. Sorry guys, my honest opinion is that I think it was overall horrible. Arnel did do a pretty good job on Open Arms, but come on....this is Journey we're talking about. A band that many of us feel should've been in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Maybe he'll improve over the course of the tour, but this was not a good premier for him. And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad." If you truly believe Arnel did THAT good of a job then you wouldn't need an excuse. besides, you're comparing apples to oranges with that spin. If you guys think he was brilliant. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinon and I humbly hope you guys enjoy this year's tour. But, there just isn't enough there to win me over.

I'll patiently wait for Jeff Scott Soto's next album.

Do you expect anyone to take you seriously with a Voltron av????
Bring back the Art Monk av!!!

Greg, I agree. Art Monk is 100000% better than fucking Voltron.

[Just Sara]

Let me start by saying that all I have to go by are the couple of youtube videos.

I was pleasantly surprised! I wanted Arnel to be okay. I thought he turned out to be pretty darn good!
Still not sure about the new album, but now I'm a lot more willing to give it a try.

And I probably won't hesitate too long to buy tickets for any concert in my area either.

It looks like I'm still a Journey fan!

[Greg]

I listened (via internet radio) to the whole concert with no drop outs or rebuffers. I'll probably get flamed for this, but so what. Sorry guys, my honest opinion is that I think it was overall horrible. Arnel did do a pretty good job on Open Arms, but come on....this is Journey we're talking about. A band that many of us feel should've been in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Maybe he'll improve over the course of the tour, but this was not a good premier for him. And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad." If you truly believe Arnel did THAT good of a job then you wouldn't need an excuse. besides, you're comparing apples to oranges with that spin. If you guys think he was brilliant. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinon and I humbly hope you guys enjoy this year's tour. But, there just isn't enough there to win me over.

I'll patiently wait for Jeff Scott Soto's next album.

Do you expect anyone to take you seriously with a Voltron av????
Bring back the Art Monk av!!!

I guess I should now since he's finally in the Hall of Fame! Now, I just gotta find that AV again!

[Lora]

I think Arnel did fine. I'm sure he was jacked up on adrenaline big time. He will improve when he gets more in the groove and can relax.

[RedWingFan]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

I'm not here to argue with anybody. I'm just stating my opinion. If that's what you got from TMC, so be it. I read it a lot different from that. Let's just leave it at that.

Why do you keep calling him TMC?

[Playitloudforme]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

JSS had to pinch hit, so it would make sense that he would get leeway. Arnel's been practicing for years (with the Zoo), and with the band for weeks. It should have been spot on. It wasn't. Did he improve during the set? Yes.. in some spots, and in others, not. I give him some leeway for his first major concert with a major band... but if he's truly the professional that Journey says he is... he should have been spot on.

When I cringe during someone's singing..that's a BAD sign. I cringed a few times.

[The_Noble_Cause]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

No, no, not at all. Jeff flew in at the last minute with ZERO prep time. He deserved to be given a chance to improve. Arnel, on the other hand, has been in rehearsal for wha? A month? Two?
Stage presence may take time, but there's no excuse for any vocal shortcomings.
I thought he sounded good overall, just didn't really grab me.

[Rick]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

JSS had to pinch hit, so it would make sense that he would get leeway. Arnel's been practicing for years (with the Zoo), and with the band for weeks. It should have been spot on. It wasn't. Did he improve during the set? Yes.. in some spots, and in others, not. I give him some leeway for his first major concert with a major band... but if he's truly the professional that Journey says he is... he should have been spot on.

When I cringe during someone's singing..that's a BAD sign. I cringed a few times.

I'm giving him a bye on the first show, I'll bet he was a nervous wreck.

[Greg]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

I'm not here to argue with anybody. I'm just stating my opinion. If that's what you got from TMC, so be it. I read it a lot different from that. Let's just leave it at that.

Why do you keep calling him TMC?

LOL! I didn't catch that! Hahahaha....The Noble Cause has turned into "The Movie Channel". Sorry....working two jobs and burning the candle at both ends is finally catching up to me!

[conversationpc]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

No, no, not at all. Jeff flew in at the last minute with ZERO prep time. He deserved to be given a chance to improve. Arnel, on the other hand, has been in rehearsal for wha? A month? Two?
Stage presence may take time, but there's no excuse for any vocal shortcomings.
I thought he sounded good overall, just didn't really grab me.

Fair enough...I disagree, though. Singing on a big stage rather than small clubs, bars, etc., is a HUGE difference.

[jrnyfan@nc.rr.com]

I gotta say after hearing it all, he did okay on those couple of tunes he's been doing with Zoo. I still just kept hearing several words slur together. There were indeed times where I could hear a hint of young Perry, but it just didn't cut it with me. People keep bringing up JSS sounding bad at his first gig - but didn't he only a couple of days practice time between that terrible July 4th show (Augeri's last) and his first date? Arnel's had months! "Ho hum" at setlist - just ONE surprise woulda been nice. Same opening "prelude" music since 1998? Come up with something new Jon.

[Greg]

And like what TMC said, please don't use the excuse of "JSS's first concert with Journey was bad."

TNC was saying we SHOULD be giving him the same chance to improve like JSS did, not what you're saying he said.

No, no, not at all. Jeff flew in at the last minute with ZERO prep time. He deserved to be given a chance to improve. Arnel, on the other hand, has been in rehearsal for wha? A month? Two?
Stage presence may take time, but there's no excuse for any vocal shortcomings.
I thought he sounded good overall, just didn't really grab me.

Thanks TNC! I thought my comprehension was flaking out on me. Luckily it hasn't! Agree 100%.

[nutz4Neal]

I had to go back and forth between Windows and RP but finally got one of them to play.

I think Arnel is awesome! He's working the stage, he's playing with the audience and interacting with all band members...he's Journey. I love him..can't wait for Vegas!

you'll be in vegas??!!!!! i can't wait to see you!! i'll pm you my cell #. not going to the show, but i'll go to the pre show party. great news, bon bon

Yes hunny, I thought you knew that!

I can't wait to hug you and kiss Wyatt!

Will be looking for your PM! xoxo

[Deb]

Decent job, good energy. But no knockout punch.

Too much screaming/emphasis on the high notes....more warmth needed in the lower register (ie balance).

But he looked like he had a great time, so good luck to them.

My thoughts exactly Andrew. He's definitely got great pipes.......but the delivery just isn't there for me. I was sold on JSS Journey after the first few shows even if he was a little off on a few notes, the passionate delivery was there bigtime. I thought AP did a great job on Faithfully but wasn't impressed with Edge Of The Blade. I think he is going to do great on the early higher range Journey material. I'll keep checking them out..........but didn't WOW me, right out of the gate like my other top 3 vocalists did. I need more soul.

[weatherman90]

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