Not impressed

[donnaplease]

Thankfully, a fellow voice of middle-aged reason pipes in!

Donna, these rookies never saw Perry. They don't know how high the bar was set.

Middle aged? WTF are you talking about???

Just kidding.

Unfortunately I never saw SP live either, but I've seen lots of video of him and I've seen the other 2 live, so I think I have something fair to compare it to. It's more than comparing him to the others, though, in my opinion. He needs to touch me, and he has yet to do that. SA didn't either, though.

[fredinator]

Loved him and his performance--what a nice guy and seemed awestruck to be on stage with the band. I'm happy about the young fans and especially the YouTube comments--that is where I look when I want to see how people really feel about Journey... Despite everything, I love Neal--my God, what a musician. Kisses and hugs to you, Neal, for keeping on and giving us such glorious music...

P.S. I hope you consider quitting smoking, please!

[7 Wishes]

Fred Pineda, brother or Arnel.

Nice to meet ya.

[fredinator]

Okay, 7Wishes, say, what? I didn't get that.

[donnaplease]

Let me "substantiate" my assertion, then.

Pineda does not interact with the crowd very well.

He seems cowed.

He doesn't move around much.

He is too focused on replicating every tone and syllable in each song that he presents as a clone, not an individual.

He doesn't capitalize very well on the higher ebbs of the audience's emotional flow.

He doesn't look at the audience nearly enough.


Anything else, sir?

I agree with most of what you say, Daniel. I was less impressed with the clips I saw than I expected to be. Stone in Love was absolutely awful, but I thought Chain Reaction was pretty good. He did move around on the stage a little more than I expected him to, but I didn't 'feel it' when he was trying to interact with the audience and the rest of the band. He tried to interact with Ross once, and I felt like Ross was kinda stand-offish to him.

I guess part of my problem is that I saw 4 Journey shows with JSS last year, and after seeing him as the frontman, that is what I am expecting. So I was disappointed on a few levels.

I don't know if he can acclimate himself to the task at hand or not. He has a lot of work to do before he can fill the previous lead singers' shoes, IMO.

You also have to consider the fact that Arnel has never played in a stage that big before. He is used to playing little clubs in the Philippines. Its quite a big jump when u think about it. I think he did pretty good for his "first time".

The issue I have with this argument is that it changes to suit the circumstances. We've been through this before. Whenever someone says he can't do it because he's been a lounge singer in the Phillipines, the response was "oh, he played in big clubs in Hong Kong" or something like that. Whenever someone posted a bad clip of him, it was that "he was nervous" or "he didn't know the music". But then, on the flip side, it was "he's been singing 4 hour sets 5 nights a week, he can handle it". You just can't have it both ways. It isn't his "first time". He's supposed to be a seasoned professional. Either he is, or he isn't. Which is it?

[conversationpc]

The issue I have with this argument is that it changes to suit the circumstances. We've been through this before. Whenever someone says he can't do it because he's been a lounge singer in the Phillipines, the response was "oh, he played in big clubs in Hong Kong" or something like that. Whenever someone posted a bad clip of him, it was that "he was nervous" or "he didn't know the music". But then, on the flip side, it was "he's been singing 4 hour sets 5 nights a week, he can handle it". You just can't have it both ways. It isn't his "first time". He's supposed to be a seasoned professional. Either he is, or he isn't. Which is it?

Perry, even in the early days, occasionally had nights where he wasn't as good as others. Truthfully, I've yet to hear a really bad performance by Arnel, though he certainly did sound nervous and rushed for the first few songs the other night. You can be a seasoned professional and still have an off night, especially when you're in a brand new situation.

[donnaplease]

The issue I have with this argument is that it changes to suit the circumstances. We've been through this before. Whenever someone says he can't do it because he's been a lounge singer in the Phillipines, the response was "oh, he played in big clubs in Hong Kong" or something like that. Whenever someone posted a bad clip of him, it was that "he was nervous" or "he didn't know the music". But then, on the flip side, it was "he's been singing 4 hour sets 5 nights a week, he can handle it". You just can't have it both ways. It isn't his "first time". He's supposed to be a seasoned professional. Either he is, or he isn't. Which is it?

Perry, even in the early days, occasionally had nights where he wasn't as good as others. Truthfully, I've yet to hear a really bad performance by Arnel, though he certainly did sound nervous and rushed for the first few songs the other night. You can be a seasoned professional and still have an off night, especially when you're in a brand new situation.

I agree, and I was gonna say that (about having a bad night) but I hit the 'submit' button before I remembered I wanted to say it.

[Deb]

Here is a question to all of you JSSluts who wont give AP a chance.

And you figure calling JSS's fans sluts is going to get your point across???

Didnt it annoy you when JSS was named lead singer and there were people who wouldnt give him a chance? And were just being ignorant for the sake of ignorance?

You mean kind of like you're being with this post???

I swear, some of us 16-21 year olds make more sense than some of you oldies on this board.

Grow the hell up, then we'll talk "sense".

[7 Wishes]

Some people have all the sense of an Italian Parliamentary legislator. There's no point in arguing.

[Indyjoe]

Here is a question to all of you JSSluts who wont give AP a chance.

And you figure calling JSS's fans sluts is going to get your point across???

I prefer "fan" myself.

[ttango1]

I'm 40 and YES, I saw Perry live and YES, I think Arnel is a diamond in the rough that will only get better.

Also, I didn't know that height was a prerequisite to being a a great frontman, and that also, it's actually quite possible to be the singer of a great band from the 80's with a pronounced accent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Meine

But from what I've been told, that speech therapist is working and the fact the guy moved his family to the bay shows that he want to do all he can to make this successful.

[Andrew]

YOU ARE TWIT!

.

No, you are a twit for rolling in here and asserting your opinionm which you clearly value highly, over everyone else. State your case, then pay some respect. I'll be watching your posts.

[Andrew]

Here is a question to all of you JSSluts who wont give AP a chance.

You are one post from oblivion son.

[treetopovskaya]

what is a lut?

[Vladan]

Here is a question to all of you JSSluts who wont give AP a chance.

You are one post from oblivion son.

Wow, what happend to "youkeepmewaiting"? this guy has gone loco, the wheels have surely fallen off. Whats going on? he use to be alright, I am assuming he still is normal, but what gives man.

[youkeepmewaiting]

By the by, the JSSluts was a play on the Arnelians and Perryheads.

[Saint John]

what is a lut?

Nicely done.

[bionic]

It was a little like Pop Idol with Journey backing it lacked something for me

[johnroxx]

Sebastian Bach had THREE YEARS worth of experience as a singer with bands that played in front of 17 people in shit hole bars before Skid Row's self-titled LP came out, and he INSTANTLY became one of the top five rock front men in the world.

Sorry, your argument holds no water.

Please...Bach is cool, but He has NEVER been in the top five front men in the world, much less did he reach that level "instantly."

This thread is full of ridiculous, uninformed, malicious BS regarding Pineda, who's looking pretty good so far and has more than enough stage presence to please the fans. All it takes is a cursory look at the Chilean crowd to see that anyone saying otherwise is beyond ignorant of what "stage presence" actually is.

Have fun...I'm not gonna waste another second on this.

;^)

[Wally_Hatchet]

The lead singer of BOC is 5'4" and he WAS fantastic.

^ Fixed for you.

Eric Bloom did kick ass in the 70's-80's, though.

Ronnie Dio never has a problem commanding an audience, and he is shorter than Eric Bloom.

[johnroxx]

Let me "substantiate" my assertion, then.

Pineda does not interact with the crowd very well.

He seems cowed.

He doesn't move around much.

He is too focused on replicating every tone and syllable in each song that he presents as a clone, not an individual.

He doesn't capitalize very well on the higher ebbs of the audience's emotional flow.

He doesn't look at the audience nearly enough.

This post proves you've not bothered to watch any of the Chile concert. So whty are you even posting to this thread, except perhaps to stir up a bunch of shit?

;^)

[Saint John]

Let me "substantiate" my assertion, then.

Pineda does not interact with the crowd very well.

He seems cowed.

He doesn't move around much.

He is too focused on replicating every tone and syllable in each song that he presents as a clone, not an individual.

He doesn't capitalize very well on the higher ebbs of the audience's emotional flow.

He doesn't look at the audience nearly enough.

This post proves you've not bothered to watch any of the Chile concert. So whty are you even posting to this thread, except perhaps to stir up a bunch of shit?

;^)

Pineda was great. The crowd was insane, he must've run 10 miles, he gave out about 100 "High 5's" and he settled in well after what appeared to be some initial (and understandably so) jitters. This guy will improve with each show like John said, and I expect an album with monster vocals. I bet it will be better than the last 3 efforts.

[Saint John]

Let me "substantiate" my assertion, then.

Pineda does not interact with the crowd very well.

He seems cowed.

He doesn't move around much.

He is too focused on replicating every tone and syllable in each song that he presents as a clone, not an individual.

He doesn't capitalize very well on the higher ebbs of the audience's emotional flow.

He doesn't look at the audience nearly enough.

This post proves you've not bothered to watch any of the Chile concert. So whty are you even posting to this thread, except perhaps to stir up a bunch of shit?

;^)

Pineda was great. The crowd was insane, he must've run 10 miles, he gave out about 100 "High 5's" and he settled in well after what appeared to be some initial (and understandably so) jitters. This guy will improve with each show like John said, and I expect an album with monster vocals. I bet it will be better than the last 3 efforts.

[mistiejourney]

but Christ did JSS make me excited.

That makes two of us!

[mistiejourney]

By the by, the JSSluts was a play on the Arnelians and Perryheads.

Actually, it was a bit insulting. JSSGorgeousGals would have gone over much better, as you can tell by the beee-u-tiful woman in my avatar!

[Indyjoe]

By the by, the JSSluts was a play on the Arnelians and Perryheads.

Actually, it was a bit insulting. JSSGorgeousGals would have gone over much better, as you can tell by the beee-u-tiful woman in my avatar!

[Deb]

By the by, the JSSluts was a play on the Arnelians and Perryheads.

Actually, it was a bit insulting. JSSGorgeousGals would have gone over much better, as you can tell by the beee-u-tiful woman in my avatar!

[Rockindeano]

By the by, the JSSluts was a play on the Arnelians and Perryheads.

Dude, get the nomenclature right.

Perry fans = Loons

Augeri fans= Red Leather fatties or JoePa13

Soto= Soto Pops

[G.I.Jim]

By the by, the JSSluts was a play on the Arnelians and Perryheads.

Dude, get the nomenclature right.

Perry fans = Loons

Augeri fans= Red Leather fatties or JoePa13

Soto= Soto Pops

I like your new lettuce Deano!

[7 Wishes]

This post proves you've not bothered to watch any of the Chile concert. So whty are you even posting to this thread, except perhaps to stir up a bunch of shit?
;^)

I've watched it three times. THAT is MY OPINION.

I'm going to buy the new record (but not the re-recorded GH). And I will see a show this summer if they get within four hours of Charlotte. So don't you try to call me out and tell me I'm stirring up shit. I was not at all impressed by Arnel. Can he improve? I believe so. I hope so. He needs to for the legacy of this band. So don't try to drag me into that crap.