Not impressed

[Strange Medicine]

Sure, JSS has had vocal hiccups on songs.......every singer does.........even Arnel on the Chile clip, there was notes he didn't hit either.

Arnel's errors have already been acknowledged and well discussed. I'm all about objectivity, which is the point. I fail to see how certain parties can tear into Arnel for his mistakes and yet praise JSS like he's the second coming. I haven't seen one good clip or heard one decent song where JSS hits a high note that doesn't make me flinch and blush with embarrassment for the guy, Arnel's vocal ladder simply goes much higher than JSS's. Ohsherrie is right, Neal and the boys should have let the man sing them his own way (love his version of IBAWY and his solo BwMT). Because he really can't do it Perry's way.

But IMO when he lets it rip with a passionate rocker or a soulful ballad like IBAWY........then ya, it's pretty magical. I think the difference is most guys "hear" a song, most of us women "hear and feel" a song.

This, too, has been acknowledged. One of my daily rituals was watching Jeff's IBAWY on Youtube. That shit was amazing.

[brywool]

I don't know if this is from the first night or what but I have to say this is the best version I've heard of "Faithfully" since Perry was in the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChnCXv7yR1s

He did a great job of Faithfully. Gawd me still luvs Deen....such a fun drummer to watch. But what the heck is with Cain, he always looks like he is sucking on a sour candy.

I'm one of the very few people on the forums who is an admitted, open, and avid fan of Jonathan Cain, but he only showed moments of enjoyment during the concert, whereas Neal, Arnel, and Ross were all smiles (I assume Deen was as well, but they only featured the left side of his face [covered by the microphone]). He did smile a lot at the end when they all bowed, but he looked bummed.

I didn't think he looked bummed. I thought he looked like he needed to take a big pooh. He always looks like that.
Actually, and maybe I've missed this in recent years, but Jon was almost more guitars than keys (which I don't dig). Is this new? Could he have been a bit intimidated by that? Also, he was having keyboard problems, especially during the second encore where his piano wasn't coming on. I read somebody's post that "Cain was visually embarrassed during "Stone in Love". Actually, he wasn't, he was all smiles during that tune and btw, I'm not watching the crummy youtube feed, this is from the dvd of the actual broadcast.
He also seemed like he was really watching what was going on and when Arnel went out on the catwalk deal, he was all smiles as was Neal. Jon was also smiling and interacting with Arnel during DSB when Arnel came over to the piano, looked Jon right in the eye and "don't stop believin' hold onto that feeling" right to him and Jon had a huge smile on his face.
Deen did the "I'm not worthy" thing to him as the band walked off. Ross was CLEARLY enjoying Arnels performance as was Neal. When the announcers were talking Neal did the "beating heart gesture" to Arnel and embraced him MANY times during the show. I sure didn't see Neal smile much during the Augeri years. In fact, he pretty much ignored him.

If that doesn't say that the band has confidence in him, then maybe the THOUSANDS of cheering fans who demanded another encore (one that was CLEARLY unprepared by Journey- you could tell they'd planned on ONE not two), will keep people's minds opened. I have not seen a crowd reaction that large and that boisterous since Perry was in the band. The Chileans clearly LOVED Journey but they also clearly loved Arnel.

I can't believe some of the hate posts that're posted here regarding him. It amazes me. Yeah, the guy had some tight notes. He also sang some very high stuff that wasn't tight. Jeez, BIG stage and he's probably used to club stages. He's gonna be a bit winded. The worst things I saw were in Rubicon where he either couldn't read the teleprompter or just spaced (hey, it happens, ask any singer- why do you think there are teleprompters at shows in the first place????), getting Jon's name wrong and that's about it. Geez, he's a ROCK singer, there's going to be some tension in there. It's part of the gig. Sting, Bono, Perry, JSS, Augeri, Prince, Delp- they've all had vocal tension in some of their shows. Doesn't mean they suck. Means they were caught up in the moment.

Those that say "no soul" blah blah blah... Arnel had more soul in "Faithfully" than I've seen since it was released in 83. Augeri did a great job on that too, but you could always tell he was tentative and probably wondering if his voice was going to cut it. Arnel sang the hell out of that song. The tone of his voice in a lot of songs was like that of Infinity-era Perry. Not the sound of his voice, but that tone that Perry could get on some of his vowels. I haven't heard that SINCE Perry was here.

Seems like the people that didn't like Arnel from the top are the same who don't like him now. Seems like those that loved JSS in the band aren't going to be won over- maybe they need to let go of that. Seems those that like Augeri and want him in the band can't stand behind Arnel. Seems Jeremey's friends will never accept him because it's not Jeremey (and I love that guy's voice btw), And finally, it seems those pining away for Steve Perry to miraculously return from wherever the hell he is can't allow themselves to admire what Arnel brings to the band. Allowing yourselves to like Arnel doesn't diminish anything attachment for those other guys and it's not being a traitor. It's just listening and watching what the cat's bringing to the gig. Whatever- It's your loss because THIS Journey is off to a pretty freakin' great start and I'm actually excited to see what's next.

[Indyjoe]

That's just the thing though, RANGE has very little to do with my vocal/musical enjoyment........so all your preaching is just fartin' in the wind to me. I don't care how high a singer can sing, if he/she can sing with soul/passion then I'm sold, period! All 3 of my fave vocalists (SP/JSS/EM) have very different vocal tones, but they all can bring passion to a rocker and soul to a ballad like nobody's business.

I can respect your opinion. But if range escapes your criteria so easily that you can excuse JSS's flinching wails and label it as "just pure magic" like some people do, you and I are at a firm disagreement. I'll be honest, I can't even begin to see how someone would arrive at that conclusion.

Which conclusion? The "magic"? I used that word. I arrived at that conclusion because I was there in 1981 when Steve Perry sang (and 1983) and didn't see Journey again until the Chula Vista(JSS) show and the Hollywood Bowl(JSS) show. Unless you were there in 1981(Perry) to see/hear/feel it and then again at the Bowl(JSS) to see/feel/hear it then you won't get it.

It was AWESOME. I was lucky to be there. I just don't know how else to describe it. I never gave a thought as to how high the singer's range was.

[StoneCold]

Cain may have:

1. Been sick.
2. Jet lagged.
3. Ate some bad "Chile" beans.
4. Tired of being called "princess"

I doubt he'd let disappointment with AP show. In fact, he's probably amped that they have a new lease on life now.

[Strange Medicine]

I don't know if this is from the first night or what but I have to say this is the best version I've heard of "Faithfully" since Perry was in the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChnCXv7yR1s

He did a great job of Faithfully. Gawd me still luvs Deen....such a fun drummer to watch. But what the heck is with Cain, he always looks like he is sucking on a sour candy.

I'm one of the very few people on the forums who is an admitted, open, and avid fan of Jonathan Cain, but he only showed moments of enjoyment during the concert, whereas Neal, Arnel, and Ross were all smiles (I assume Deen was as well, but they only featured the left side of his face [covered by the microphone]). He did smile a lot at the end when they all bowed, but he looked bummed.

I didn't think he looked bummed. I thought he looked like he needed to take a big pooh. He always looks like that.
Actually, and maybe I've missed this in recent years, but Jon was almost more guitars than keys (which I don't dig). Is this new? Could he have been a bit intimidated by that? Also, he was having keyboard problems, especially during the second encore where his piano wasn't coming on. I read somebody's post that "Cain was visually embarrassed during "Stone in Love". Actually, he wasn't, he was all smiles during that tune and btw, I'm not watching the crummy youtube feed, this is from the dvd of the actual broadcast.
He also seemed like he was really watching what was going on and when Arnel went out on the catwalk deal, he was all smiles as was Neal. Jon was also smiling and interacting with Arnel during DSB when Arnel came over to the piano, looked Jon right in the eye and "don't stop believin' hold onto that feeling" right to him and Jon had a huge smile on his face.
Deen did the "I'm not worthy" thing to him as the band walked off. Ross was CLEARLY enjoying Arnels performance as was Neal. When the announcers were talking Neal did the "beating heart gesture" to Arnel and embraced him MANY times during the show. I sure didn't see Neal smile much during the Augeri years. In fact, he pretty much ignored him.

If that doesn't say that the band has confidence in him, then maybe the THOUSANDS of cheering fans who demanded another encore (one that was CLEARLY unprepared by Journey- you could tell they'd planned on ONE not two), will keep people's minds opened. I have not seen a crowd reaction that large and that boisterous since Perry was in the band. The Chileans clearly LOVED Journey but they also clearly loved Arnel.

I can't believe some of the hate posts that're posted here regarding him. It amazes me. Yeah, the guy had some tight notes. He also sang some very high stuff that wasn't tight. Jeez, BIG stage and he's probably used to club stages. He's gonna be a bit winded. The worst things I saw were in Rubicon where he either couldn't read the teleprompter or just spaced (hey, it happens, ask any singer- why do you think there are teleprompters at shows in the first place????), getting Jon's name wrong and that's about it. Geez, he's a ROCK singer, there's going to be some tension in there. It's part of the gig. Sting, Bono, Perry, JSS, Augeri, Prince, Delp- they've all had vocal tension in some of their shows. Doesn't mean they suck. Means they were caught up in the moment.

Those that say "no soul" blah blah blah... Arnel had more soul in "Faithfully" than I've seen since it was released in 83. Augeri did a great job on that too, but you could always tell he was tentative and probably wondering if his voice was going to cut it. Arnel sang the hell out of that song. The tone of his voice in a lot of songs was like that of Infinity-era Perry. Not the sound of his voice, but that tone that Perry could get on some of his vowels. I haven't heard that SINCE Perry was here.

Seems like the people that didn't like Arnel from the top are the same who don't like him now. Seems like those that loved JSS in the band aren't going to be won over- maybe they need to let go of that. Seems those that like Augeri and want him in the band can't stand behind Arnel. Seems Jeremey's friends will never accept him because it's not Jeremey (and I love that guy's voice btw), And finally, it seems those pining away for Steve Perry to miraculously return from wherever the hell he is can't allow themselves to admire what Arnel brings to the band. Allowing yourselves to like Arnel doesn't diminish anything attachment for those other guys and it's not being a traitor. It's just listening and watching what the cat's bringing to the gig. Whatever- It's your loss because THIS Journey is off to a pretty freakin' great start and I'm actually excited to see what's next.

Bingo, good sir.

[youkeepmewaiting]

I don't know if this is from the first night or what but I have to say this is the best version I've heard of "Faithfully" since Perry was in the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChnCXv7yR1s

He did a great job of Faithfully. Gawd me still luvs Deen....such a fun drummer to watch. But what the heck is with Cain, he always looks like he is sucking on a sour candy.

I'm one of the very few people on the forums who is an admitted, open, and avid fan of Jonathan Cain, but he only showed moments of enjoyment during the concert, whereas Neal, Arnel, and Ross were all smiles (I assume Deen was as well, but they only featured the left side of his face [covered by the microphone]). He did smile a lot at the end when they all bowed, but he looked bummed.

I didn't think he looked bummed. I thought he looked like he needed to take a big pooh. He always looks like that.
Actually, and maybe I've missed this in recent years, but Jon was almost more guitars than keys (which I don't dig). Is this new? Could he have been a bit intimidated by that? Also, he was having keyboard problems, especially during the second encore where his piano wasn't coming on. I read somebody's post that "Cain was visually embarrassed during "Stone in Love". Actually, he wasn't, he was all smiles during that tune and btw, I'm not watching the crummy youtube feed, this is from the dvd of the actual broadcast.
He also seemed like he was really watching what was going on and when Arnel went out on the catwalk deal, he was all smiles as was Neal. Jon was also smiling and interacting with Arnel during DSB when Arnel came over to the piano, looked Jon right in the eye and "don't stop believin' hold onto that feeling" right to him and Jon had a huge smile on his face.
Deen did the "I'm not worthy" thing to him as the band walked off. Ross was CLEARLY enjoying Arnels performance as was Neal. When the announcers were talking Neal did the "beating heart gesture" to Arnel and embraced him MANY times during the show. I sure didn't see Neal smile much during the Augeri years. In fact, he pretty much ignored him.

If that doesn't say that the band has confidence in him, then maybe the THOUSANDS of cheering fans who demanded another encore (one that was CLEARLY unprepared by Journey- you could tell they'd planned on ONE not two), will keep people's minds opened. I have not seen a crowd reaction that large and that boisterous since Perry was in the band. The Chileans clearly LOVED Journey but they also clearly loved Arnel.

I can't believe some of the hate posts that're posted here regarding him. It amazes me. Yeah, the guy had some tight notes. He also sang some very high stuff that wasn't tight. Jeez, BIG stage and he's probably used to club stages. He's gonna be a bit winded. The worst things I saw were in Rubicon where he either couldn't read the teleprompter or just spaced (hey, it happens, ask any singer- why do you think there are teleprompters at shows in the first place????), getting Jon's name wrong and that's about it. Geez, he's a ROCK singer, there's going to be some tension in there. It's part of the gig. Sting, Bono, Perry, JSS, Augeri, Prince, Delp- they've all had vocal tension in some of their shows. Doesn't mean they suck. Means they were caught up in the moment.

Those that say "no soul" blah blah blah... Arnel had more soul in "Faithfully" than I've seen since it was released in 83. Augeri did a great job on that too, but you could always tell he was tentative and probably wondering if his voice was going to cut it. Arnel sang the hell out of that song. The tone of his voice in a lot of songs was like that of Infinity-era Perry. Not the sound of his voice, but that tone that Perry could get on some of his vowels. I haven't heard that SINCE Perry was here.

Seems like the people that didn't like Arnel from the top are the same who don't like him now. Seems like those that loved JSS in the band aren't going to be won over- maybe they need to let go of that. Seems those that like Augeri and want him in the band can't stand behind Arnel. Seems Jeremey's friends will never accept him because it's not Jeremey (and I love that guy's voice btw), And finally, it seems those pining away for Steve Perry to miraculously return from wherever the hell he is can't allow themselves to admire what Arnel brings to the band. Allowing yourselves to like Arnel doesn't diminish anything attachment for those other guys and it's not being a traitor. It's just listening and watching what the cat's bringing to the gig. Whatever- It's your loss because THIS Journey is off to a pretty freakin' great start and I'm actually excited to see what's next.

Bingo, good sir.

Great post.

[Moon Beam]

getting Jon's name wrong and that's about it. Geez, he's a ROCK singer, there's going to be some tension in there. It's part of the gig. Sting, Bono, Perry, JSS, Augeri, Prince, Delp- they've all had vocal tension in some of their shows. Doesn't mean they suck. Means they were caught up in the moment.

Personally I love the little musical mistakes, I always take pleasure when I'm present for them.

[7 Wishes]

Bingo, good sir.

Kissing our old asses - especially Dan's - will win you nothing but mockery at this point.

[ohsherrie]

That's just the thing though, RANGE has very little to do with my vocal/musical enjoyment........so all your preaching is just fartin' in the wind to me. I don't care how high a singer can sing, if he/she can sing with soul/passion then I'm sold, period! All 3 of my fave vocalists (SP/JSS/EM) have very different vocal tones, but they all can bring passion to a rocker and soul to a ballad like nobody's business.

Deb, I've come to the conclusion that those of us who are used to, and therefore demand, something above and beyond what these younger fans seem to understand need to take into consideration what they've been listening to for the last 10+ or so years. There have been no great voices. They don't know the difference.

[youkeepmewaiting]

That's just the thing though, RANGE has very little to do with my vocal/musical enjoyment........so all your preaching is just fartin' in the wind to me. I don't care how high a singer can sing, if he/she can sing with soul/passion then I'm sold, period! All 3 of my fave vocalists (SP/JSS/EM) have very different vocal tones, but they all can bring passion to a rocker and soul to a ballad like nobody's business.

Deb, I've come to the conclusion that those of us who are used to, and therefore demand, something above and beyond what these younger fans seem to understand need to take into consideration what they've been listening to for the last 10+ or so years. There have been no great voices. They don't know the difference.

Well thank God the ten year wait is over.

[ohsherrie]

That's just the thing though, RANGE has very little to do with my vocal/musical enjoyment........so all your preaching is just fartin' in the wind to me. I don't care how high a singer can sing, if he/she can sing with soul/passion then I'm sold, period! All 3 of my fave vocalists (SP/JSS/EM) have very different vocal tones, but they all can bring passion to a rocker and soul to a ballad like nobody's business.

Deb, I've come to the conclusion that those of us who are used to, and therefore demand, something above and beyond what these younger fans seem to understand need to take into consideration what they've been listening to for the last 10+ or so years. There have been no great voices. They don't know the difference.

Well thank God the ten year wait is over.

I don't think you understood what I meant, but that's not surprising. I wasn't talking about 10 yrs of Journey. I meant 10+ years of popular music. If you think Arnel is the musical saviour then you just proved my point.

[journeywoman]

Wondered how long it was gonna take for you to post Sherrie.Yes like me Sherrie when we got to experience Journey from the beginning when they were creating the so called dirty dozen we knew what perfection and great music was.We didn't become a Journey wanna-a be FAN in the last few months or last 10 years.Gotta admit we were lucky we had the best and heard the best THEN!

[youkeepmewaiting]

That's just the thing though, RANGE has very little to do with my vocal/musical enjoyment........so all your preaching is just fartin' in the wind to me. I don't care how high a singer can sing, if he/she can sing with soul/passion then I'm sold, period! All 3 of my fave vocalists (SP/JSS/EM) have very different vocal tones, but they all can bring passion to a rocker and soul to a ballad like nobody's business.

Deb, I've come to the conclusion that those of us who are used to, and therefore demand, something above and beyond what these younger fans seem to understand need to take into consideration what they've been listening to for the last 10+ or so years. There have been no great voices. They don't know the difference.

Well thank God the ten year wait is over.

I don't think you understood what I meant, but that's not surprising. I wasn't talking about 10 yrs of Journey. I meant 10+ years of popular music. If you think Arnel is the musical saviour then you just proved my point.

Well in that case. Just because I didnt grow up during the 80's does not mean i dont know what we all consider to be good music. I'm used to the great music that your used too, because i also live in the 80's (musically speaking)

[Andrew]

Arnel's errors have already been acknowledged and well discussed. I'm all about objectivity, which is the point. I fail to see how certain parties can tear into Arnel for his mistakes and yet praise JSS like he's the second coming.

Revisionist history at it's best. Soto was given a hard time in this very forum by some who felt underwhelmed by his debut.

[7 Wishes]

Strange Medicine is 15 and he knows everything about everything. There is no room for discussion because he is always right. For anyone to suggest otherwise would be ludicrous.

[Strange Medicine]

Bingo, good sir.

Kissing our old asses - especially Dan's - will win you nothing but mockery at this point.

Perhaps you would like to take your old head out of your old ass and learn some sensibility? I felt that Brywool's post was eloquent and persuasive; I agreed with him. Now, as far as "mockery" is concerned, I believe that whatever ire I receive from the rest of the forum population will be nothing approaching the sheer stupidity that manifests in your diatribes; let me be quite plain. I kiss no ass around here; I once expressed my thoughts to Andrew -- via private messaging -- that he presented himself, to me, as a failed administrator. So, the real question is: if I have no qualms about arguing with the highest authority on these forums, why the hell would I go about kissing your ass? I'd likely get lost in the wrinkles.

Strange Medicine is 15 and he knows everything about everything. There is no room for discussion because he is always right. For anyone to suggest otherwise would be ludicrous.

There is but one flaw in this statement. Strange Medicine is 16 (and going to turn 17 in May). Suppose the ability to count or read posts properly fades with age.

[ohsherrie]

Strange Medicine is 15 and he knows everything about everything. There is no room for discussion because he is always right. For anyone to suggest otherwise would be ludicrous.

I've noticed that about several of the younger posters on here Daniel. I guess years of real time listening and watching the development and evolution of the music is nothing compared to the ensight of their fresh perspective.

[Don]

Having seen Journey in 81 I remember the experience more as having fun at a rock concert. To me rock concerts were a social event meeting people, sharing a joint and watching the show. Even if Steve Or Rik Emmitt or Dennis Deyoung had an off night no one minded because it was still a great time from the road trip there until the ride home. No one is saying that Arnel is a musical Savior, but he if he makes going to the show fun that's all that is required. JSS does the same thing. I don't care who sings for Journey as long they bring excitement to the stage. When I want to hear great vocals I will get that when I see Celtic Woman in May. Rock concerts should be fun, their not meant to be flawless art. Every day you wish for the past is one less day of the rest of your life which is short enough anyway. If you're like me and over 40 you are more than likely halfway to deaths door so try to enjoy life. Steve Perry is done but we have video and audio to remind us of what he brought. No one can tarnish the legacy of classic Journey. This isn't classic Journey, this the Journey of now going out and having fun.
Remember hate and spite shorten your life. if something is stuck in your crawl remove it and move along and you'll be better for it.

[Strange Medicine]

Revisionist history at it's best. Soto was given a hard time in this very forum by some who felt underwhelmed by his debut.

And here's Andrew, with a witty opening phrase that just screams hostility. Where are your manners? I suppose, along with common sense, they're locked deep within the half-fried tissue between your ears. There is no revisionist history; for my words to beconsidered revisionist, I would have had to deny that Mr. Soto was "given a hard time". I never did. In fact, I never brought it up at all. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. One cannot objectively tear into Mr. Pineda for his errors in vocal technique and turn around and praise Mr. Soto as if he is the second coming, since he is just as fallible of a singer. That was the point, Andrew. But, if you'll pardon the assumption, it seems you were too eager to point out that Mr. Soto was treated just as harshly to realize that: a.) no one disputed that and b.) since I didn't deny it, it isn't considered revisionist.

Next?

[Maui Tom]

Revisionist history at it's best. Soto was given a hard time in this very forum by some who felt underwhelmed by his debut.

And here's Andrew, with a witty opening phrase that just screams hostility. Where are your manners? I suppose, along with common sense, they're locked deep within the half-fried tissue between your ears. There is no revisionist history; for my words to beconsidered revisionist, I would have had to deny that Mr. Soto was "given a hard time". I never did. In fact, I never brought it up at all. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. One cannot objectively tear into Mr. Pineda for his errors in vocal technique and turn around and praise Mr. Soto as if he is the second coming, since he is just as fallible of a singer. That was the point, Andrew. But, if you'll pardon the assumption, it seems you were too eager to point out that Mr. Soto was treated just as harshly to realize that: a.) no one disputed that and b.) since I didn't deny it, it isn't considered revisionist.

Next?

Boy did YOU just fuck yourself.

[ohsherrie]

Wondered how long it was gonna take for you to post Sherrie.Yes like me Sherrie when we got to experience Journey from the beginning when they were creating the so called dirty dozen we knew what perfection and great music was.We didn't become a Journey wanna-a be FAN in the last few months or last 10 years.Gotta admit we were lucky we had the best and heard the best THEN!

Hi Sandy. Hell yeah, these kids should be lucky enough to know what the REAL Journey was all about. They've got nothing more than a cover band and don't even realize what they're missing. Personally, if I'm going to listen to someone cover the catalog I'll take Frontiers. Maybe if they play somewhere within driving distance of both of us we can meet.

[7 Wishes]

Strange Medicine, you are a real ass.

I'm "old", am I? I guarantee I could out-think, outsmart, outrun, and outdo you in just about anything. You really need to get over yourself, little boy. I've had quite enough.

You have NO perspective and you don't know jack about shit.

You should hope to be in half as good shape as I am when you're 37. I'm not banging my own drum here...I have tons of shortcomings...but you're the one who keeps going with the "tongue-in-cheek" geriatric references.

Listen. You have crap bands like Matchbox 20 over which to obsess the rest of your life. You didn't grow up on Journey. You never saw Perry.

So our opinions differentiate. You are a broken record, full of yourself, and a smarmy little shit at that.

[Strange Medicine]

Boy did YOU just fuck yourself.

I fucked myself? Well, there's no better of a person to engage in sexual acts with.

When those in power treat try to bait those without it, that's sheer bullying. I wouldn't go so far as to accuse Andrew of being a tyrant or a dictator. His status as an administrator isn't going to cow me or stop me from responding in kind. If he can't take the banter, he shouldn't deal it out. It's as simple as that.

If he chooses to ban me, there's nothing I can do about it.

[youkeepmewaiting]

Wondered how long it was gonna take for you to post Sherrie.Yes like me Sherrie when we got to experience Journey from the beginning when they were creating the so called dirty dozen we knew what perfection and great music was.We didn't become a Journey wanna-a be FAN in the last few months or last 10 years.Gotta admit we were lucky we had the best and heard the best THEN!

Hi Sandy. Hell yeah, these kids should be lucky enough to know what the REAL Journey was all about. They've got nothing more than a cover band and don't even realize what they're missing. Personally, if I'm going to listen to someone cover the catalog I'll take Frontiers. Maybe if they play somewhere within driving distance of both of us we can meet.

Hmm shall we choose a bar band or 2 original members and Cain, including one of the great rock guitarist of all time.. hmm this is a tough one.

[ohsherrie]

Revisionist history at it's best. Soto was given a hard time in this very forum by some who felt underwhelmed by his debut.

And here's Andrew, with a witty opening phrase that just screams hostility. Where are your manners? I suppose, along with common sense, they're locked deep within the half-fried tissue between your ears. There is no revisionist history; for my words to beconsidered revisionist, I would have had to deny that Mr. Soto was "given a hard time". I never did. In fact, I never brought it up at all. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. One cannot objectively tear into Mr. Pineda for his errors in vocal technique and turn around and praise Mr. Soto as if he is the second coming, since he is just as fallible of a singer. That was the point, Andrew. But, if you'll pardon the assumption, it seems you were too eager to point out that Mr. Soto was treated just as harshly to realize that: a.) no one disputed that and b.) since I didn't deny it, it isn't considered revisionist.

Next?

Boy did YOU just fuck yourself.

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of his young life.

[Strange Medicine]

Strange Medicine, you are a real ass.

I'm "old", am I? I guarantee I could out-think, outsmart, outrun, and outdo you in just about anything. You really need to get over yourself, little boy. I've had quite enough.

You have NO perspective and you don't know jack about shit.

You should hope to be in half as good shape as I am when you're 37. I'm not banging my own drum here...I have tons of shortcomings...but you're the one who keeps going with the "tongue-in-cheek" geriatric references.

Listen. You have crap bands like Matchbox 20 over which to obsess the rest of your life. You didn't grow up on Journey. You never saw Perry.

So our opinions differentiate. You are a broken record, full of yourself, and a smarmy little shit at that.

LOL.

Such stamina. If I had known you were so easily baited, I wouldn't have been so blunt. I do it only for the banter.

...And they call me a narcissist.

[youkeepmewaiting]

Revisionist history at it's best. Soto was given a hard time in this very forum by some who felt underwhelmed by his debut.

And here's Andrew, with a witty opening phrase that just screams hostility. Where are your manners? I suppose, along with common sense, they're locked deep within the half-fried tissue between your ears. There is no revisionist history; for my words to beconsidered revisionist, I would have had to deny that Mr. Soto was "given a hard time". I never did. In fact, I never brought it up at all. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. One cannot objectively tear into Mr. Pineda for his errors in vocal technique and turn around and praise Mr. Soto as if he is the second coming, since he is just as fallible of a singer. That was the point, Andrew. But, if you'll pardon the assumption, it seems you were too eager to point out that Mr. Soto was treated just as harshly to realize that: a.) no one disputed that and b.) since I didn't deny it, it isn't considered revisionist.

Next?

Haha, i love the post.. be interesting to see how this one pans out.

Luckily im all inocent tonight

[7 Wishes]

I fucked myself? Well, there's no better of a person to engage in sexual acts with.

If you're going to get accepted at Hudson Valley Community College, dweeb, you had better learn proper sentence structure.

"Well, there's no better person with whom to engage in sexual acts."

You're welcome, dickless.

[ohsherrie]

Wondered how long it was gonna take for you to post Sherrie.Yes like me Sherrie when we got to experience Journey from the beginning when they were creating the so called dirty dozen we knew what perfection and great music was.We didn't become a Journey wanna-a be FAN in the last few months or last 10 years.Gotta admit we were lucky we had the best and heard the best THEN!

Hi Sandy. Hell yeah, these kids should be lucky enough to know what the REAL Journey was all about. They've got nothing more than a cover band and don't even realize what they're missing. Personally, if I'm going to listen to someone cover the catalog I'll take Frontiers. Maybe if they play somewhere within driving distance of both of us we can meet.

Hmm shall we choose a bar band or 3 original members, including one of the great rock guitarist of all time.. hmm this is a tough one.

I couldn't care less whether it's Neal or Barry playing guitar. I've seen and heard them both. I'm not the star struck type.

[youkeepmewaiting]

Wondered how long it was gonna take for you to post Sherrie.Yes like me Sherrie when we got to experience Journey from the beginning when they were creating the so called dirty dozen we knew what perfection and great music was.We didn't become a Journey wanna-a be FAN in the last few months or last 10 years.Gotta admit we were lucky we had the best and heard the best THEN!

Hi Sandy. Hell yeah, these kids should be lucky enough to know what the REAL Journey was all about. They've got nothing more than a cover band and don't even realize what they're missing. Personally, if I'm going to listen to someone cover the catalog I'll take Frontiers. Maybe if they play somewhere within driving distance of both of us we can meet.

Hmm shall we choose a bar band or 3 original members, including one of the great rock guitarist of all time.. hmm this is a tough one.

I couldn't care less whether it's Neal or Barry playing guitar. I've seen and heard them both. I'm not the star struck type.

It's not about being starstruck, it's about wanting to go and see Journey, not going to see a cover band.

And before anybody barks up, yes i am aware that I orginally posted saying "3 original members", when it is infact only 2.