The music is bigger than this nitpicking (from Not Impressed

[wildone]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

[youkeepmewaiting]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

[Carlitto H@kk]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

[wildone]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

someones getting it...arnel IMO won't last that long.

[youkeepmewaiting]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

It certain songs yes. But i mean things like BGTYS. I'd bet my money that Arnel will hit those big notes no problem live.. unlike Augeri

[youkeepmewaiting]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

someones getting it...arnel IMO won't last that long.

Whats your bet then, how long will he last?

[Carlitto H@kk]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

It certain songs yes. But i mean things like BGTYS. I'd bet my money that Arnel will hit those big notes no problem live.. unlike Augeri

Hmmmm... if I remeber right, even Perry himself couldn't hit those notes live on the ROR tour.
I'll tell ya what, let's talk about BGTYS and Arnel's "soaring vocals" 15-20 shows down the line.
I'm willing to bet BGTYS gets bumped out of the set real soon and
don't be surprised if Deen starts singing again.
Mark my words...

[youkeepmewaiting]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

It certain songs yes. But i mean things like BGTYS. I'd bet my money that Arnel will hit those big notes no problem live.. unlike Augeri

Hmmmm... if I remeber right, even Perry himself couldn't hit those notes live on the ROR tour.
I'll tell ya what, let's talk about BGTYS and Arnel's "soaring vocals" 15-20 shows down the line.
I'm willing to bet BGTYS gets bumped out of the set real soon and
don't be surprised if Deen starts singing again.
Mark my words...

I'm marking your words with a big pile of bullshit.

[ProgRocker53]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

It certain songs yes. But i mean things like BGTYS. I'd bet my money that Arnel will hit those big notes no problem live.. unlike Augeri

Hmmmm... if I remeber right, even Perry himself couldn't hit those notes live on the ROR tour.
I'll tell ya what, let's talk about BGTYS and Arnel's "soaring vocals" 15-20 shows down the line.
I'm willing to bet BGTYS gets bumped out of the set real soon and
don't be surprised if Deen starts singing again.
Mark my words...

I'm marking your words with a big pile of bullshit.

I'm on the Pineda bandwagon, but c'mon man. Be realistic. BGTYS almost always gets bumped out of the set, it's a bear on ANY vocalist, and there's no way you can keep Deen muted at all.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

It certain songs yes. But i mean things like BGTYS. I'd bet my money that Arnel will hit those big notes no problem live.. unlike Augeri

Hmmmm... if I remeber right, even Perry himself couldn't hit those notes live on the ROR tour.
I'll tell ya what, let's talk about BGTYS and Arnel's "soaring vocals" 15-20 shows down the line.
I'm willing to bet BGTYS gets bumped out of the set real soon and
don't be surprised if Deen starts singing again.
Mark my words...

I'm marking your words with a big pile of bullshit.

Nope, you are taking the easy way out now, pal.
I say something you don't like and then you
throw up the "bullshit" flag.

Come on, you seem intelligent...
Give me one solid, good reason to believe
that Arnel's voice will hold up any better than Augeri's
or one solid, good reason for me to believe Arnel will
actually start "singing" these high notes instead of "shouting"
them.

Come on, you can do it...

[wildone]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

someones getting it...arnel IMO won't last that long.

Whats your bet then, how long will he last?

sorry I don't bet ....but if they think they're ever going to be relevant again is a Joke!They'll sail off into the sunset on their dirty dozen with their new whipping boy.....and then call it a Journey...

[ttango1]

Just because there is a SMALL contingent that talks the MOST dissenting opinions doesn't mean they are RIGHT. All of that is just their hypotheses. Let's wait a bit and for everything that Arnel gets done, let's sit back and watch them re-forecast their assumptions. Big mistake they say, will flop once people hear him, no one will cheer for him...Chile disagrees and so do a great many others like me

[youkeepmewaiting]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

Oh, give me a fucking break!
I am NOT gonna bash Arnel, yet, but he did a lot more "shouting" than
he did "singing" in the clips I've heard so far.

And God forbid anyone "needs to convert to falsetto"...
Isn't that what Perry did most of the time as well??????
Did I miss something here???

I know you are an Arnel fan and, hell, I may be one too someday but
you're reaching here, pal.
Until Augeri had his throat issues, whether it be from over-working the pipes, age, illness, etc,
he did a pretty admirable job fronting this band.

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

It certain songs yes. But i mean things like BGTYS. I'd bet my money that Arnel will hit those big notes no problem live.. unlike Augeri

Hmmmm... if I remeber right, even Perry himself couldn't hit those notes live on the ROR tour.
I'll tell ya what, let's talk about BGTYS and Arnel's "soaring vocals" 15-20 shows down the line.
I'm willing to bet BGTYS gets bumped out of the set real soon and
don't be surprised if Deen starts singing again.
Mark my words...

I'm marking your words with a big pile of bullshit.

Nope, you are taking the easy way out now, pal.
I say something you don't like and then you
throw up the "bullshit" flag.

Come on, you seem intelligent...
Give me one solid, good reason to believe
that Arnel's voice will hold up any better than Augeri's
or one solid, good reason for me to believe Arnel will
actually start "singing" these high notes instead of "shouting"
them.

Come on, you can do it...

Personally i dont believe is shouting them. Although on occasion he is. I forget if its AWYWI or DSB but nearing the end on the high notes, instead on singing the words he was just yelling the tune - i wasnt to fond of this, but i'm hoping that he wont carry on doing that.

I think Arnels voice will hold up better than Augeris for the simple reason that he has a much stronger voice. Augeris voice was always week for the Journey catalogue, although i was, and still am a fan of his.

[Greg]

Have you seen the Houston concert DVD? If not, you should pick up a copy. If so, watch it again. The band set a high standard for live performances with that show.

Of course I have, more times than I can count. It's obviously a great performance, but every time I watch it I wish it was Captured that was on DVD and not that show... just cooler songs on Captured. You know, I think part of it is that I listen to Journey for Neal as much, if not more so than I listen to it for the vocals, regardless of who's singing. Hence why Nickel & Dime is one of my top-played Journey tracks lately. So I can handle someone else singing it and still think it's a smokin performance, because Neal has never let me down. I saw Augeri three times and I guess I just got lucky, his vox were fine for me. I liked Augeri quite a lot to be honest... he was the first person I ever saw front Journey. Saw JSS once and enjoyed it just as much. Will see Arnel and probably feel the same. Remember, I was born in 86 so I never really had any frame of reference to judge anybody's performance against The Voice. Live recordings give me an idea, but being there is just totally different. At least for me. I guess it's a blessing for me, since I can see/listen to/enjoy SP on Houston/Captured and still enjoy going to the latter day incarnations of the band.

A few points to cover: You listen to Journey more for Neal Schon than the vocals, so of course it's not going to matter to you who the vocalist is. However, I dare say at least 75% of past and present Journey fans are fans because of the vocals. Point two, you were to young to get "emotionally" involved in the music. Now, that's not to say the rest of us eat, sleep, and breathe Journey, but it just means that we were old enough to have Journey a part of a very important part of our lives. Like when high school seniors have their senior song or that perfect song that reminds them of dancing with their high school sweetheart. You didn't have any of that and had to find out about Journey through others. Third point, just because some of us have gotten a little disheartened by the way the band has managed itself in the past couple of years, that isn't to say that we didn't support other lineups other than the Escape era. Actually, that's pretty far from the truth. I supported the band during the Augeri era, JSS era, and I too like the pre-perry stuff. AND, I had discovered Journey during the Escape/Frontier years, so it was quite easy to just fall in love with that incarnation of the band rather than earlier versions.

Just as you listen to Journey mostly for the guitar parts, I listen to Journey for the vocals mostly, guitars secondly. Not to take anything away from Neal Schon, but I'm like most Journey fans: Journey will always be Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Jon Cain, Ross Valory, and Steve Smith.

[Wally_Hatchet]

I know for a FACT alot of the bashers here either have already bought tickets, or will be first in line to buy ticks when Journey comes to their town.

Not me. I had interest before hearing/seeing the clips, but not now.

I was all for giving Arnel a chance and stated so here. I praised his youtube performances often and thought he had a great shot to keep this job.

After seeing the new ap/Journey clips, my opinion is that he is not "rock star" material. Perry, Augeri and Soto didhave that rock star vibe, although in totally different ways.

I thought AP had great stage presence. I felt good for him watching the clips. What a great experience it must be for him. His smile and enthusiasm were a def a plus and that made me smile for him.

His vocals were mediocre.

The constant vibrato and extending every vocal line (instead of cutting them off when called for) were annoying.
"Strangeeeeeeerrrrrrrs, wait-taaaaaaannnnnnn, up and down the boulevaaaarrrrrd..."

Screaming in the mic and singing off-key didn't help his case (Stone In Love for example). And don't give any of that getting used to in-ear monitor crap. He's had months to get used to using them.

His accent bothers me. Not his race or heritage, I could care less where he's from.
I love the band Loudness, but I wouldn't want Minoro Niraha (or whatever the hell his name is) to sing lead for Journey.

His accent was quite noticeable in Separate Ways. For example, he has a hard time pronouncing the letter "T". He puts an "S" after, like "Tswo, tswo, tswo". He has other accent issues as well.

Not trying to convince anyone to not like AP. He is somewhat talented and seems like a nice guy, so have at it and enjoy. I can only say that the way the band treated Augeri and JSS, combined with a mediocre singer, is not worth the money or time to see Journey.

I'm off the fence, now...

I've never thought about or stated this before, but, after hearing his clips from the melodicrock fest, Journey should give Chalfant a call - immediately. Tune 'em down 1/2 step if necessary, but call him before the masses hear your new singer for themselves.

[Wally_Hatchet]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

AP couldn't be a pimple on Steve Augeri's ass. I've seen/heard Steve A. live, there was no lipping, and yes, he was not perfect (neither was Perry) - but SA was/is a rock star and he kicked our asses. I enjoyed that Arrival show more than I did the Frontiers show in '83, and that show kicked ass, too. SA's vocals fit Journey just fine, until he lost it, which was not his fault. AP's do not IMO.

[Rockindeano]

Let's see what condition Arnel's voice is in after 7-8 years of
trying to match Perry's 80's range 3-4 nights a week

someones getting it...arnel IMO won't last that long.[/quote]

He doesn't have to. They aren't going to be around in 7-8 years, let alone 5. AP has to last only a few years.

[Greg]

Just because there is a SMALL contingent that talks the MOST dissenting opinions doesn't mean they are RIGHT. All of that is just their hypotheses. Let's wait a bit and for everything that Arnel gets done, let's sit back and watch them re-forecast their assumptions. Big mistake they say, will flop once people hear him, no one will cheer for him...Chile disagrees and so do a great many others like me

Your biggest problem is that you'd rather complain and whine about those who "aren't on the bandwagon" rather than to focus your thoughts on the band itself. Those of us who have not been impressed by this current singer have stuck to conversing about the band itself. We can care less if there are fans who will go after anything Journey puts out there for them.

[Rockindeano]

AP couldn't be a pimple on Steve Augeri's ass. I've seen/heard Steve A. live, there was no lipping, and yes, he was not perfect (neither was Perry) - but SA was/is a rock star and he kicked our asses. I enjoyed that Arrival show more than I did the Frontiers show in '83, and that show kicked ass, too. SA's vocals fit Journey just fine, until he lost it, which was not his fault. AP's do not IMO.

Are you high again? SA never was a great singer. Hell, they were looking to dump him in 2002, but you won't hear them say that. I think Augeri did a decent job, but he isn't half the singer Pineda is, no way.

[Rockindeano]

Your biggest problem is that you'd rather complain and whine about those who "aren't on the bandwagon" rather than to focus your thoughts on the band itself. Those of us who have not been impressed by this current singer have stuck to conversing about the band itself. We can care less if there are fans who will go after anything Journey puts out there for them.

And frankly, you and your clan's biggest problem is that Hunsicker got passed over. Everyone who is excited and somewhat re energized and going to Vegas are assholes, yet, if Hunsicker were the choice, you would all be lined up and ready to hit Vegas. Gimme a break Greg. It's so transparent. It's all bullshit hype, yet if it were Hunsicker, you all would be where we are now.

[ohsherrie]

A few points to cover: You listen to Journey more for Neal Schon than the vocals, so of course it's not going to matter to you who the vocalist is. However, I dare say at least 75% of past and present Journey fans are fans because of the vocals. Point two, you were to young to get "emotionally" involved in the music. Now, that's not to say the rest of us eat, sleep, and breathe Journey, but it just means that we were old enough to have Journey a part of a very important part of our lives. Like when high school seniors have their senior song or that perfect song that reminds them of dancing with their high school sweetheart. You didn't have any of that and had to find out about Journey through others. Third point, just because some of us have gotten a little disheartened by the way the band has managed itself in the past couple of years, that isn't to say that we didn't support other lineups other than the Escape era. Actually, that's pretty far from the truth. I supported the band during the Augeri era, JSS era, and I too like the pre-perry stuff. AND, I had discovered Journey during the Escape/Frontier years, so it was quite easy to just fall in love with that incarnation of the band rather than earlier versions.

Just as you listen to Journey mostly for the guitar parts, I listen to Journey for the vocals mostly, guitars secondly. Not to take anything away from Neal Schon, but I'm like most Journey fans: Journey will always be Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Jon Cain, Ross Valory, and Steve Smith.

Great post Greg.

[ttango1]

Just because there is a SMALL contingent that talks the MOST dissenting opinions doesn't mean they are RIGHT. All of that is just their hypotheses. Let's wait a bit and for everything that Arnel gets done, let's sit back and watch them re-forecast their assumptions. Big mistake they say, will flop once people hear him, no one will cheer for him...Chile disagrees and so do a great many others like me

Your biggest problem is that you'd rather complain and whine about those who "aren't on the bandwagon" rather than to focus your thoughts on the band itself. Those of us who have not been impressed by this current singer have stuck to conversing about the band itself. We can care less if there are fans who will go after anything Journey puts out there for them.

Not at all. I'm one of the few OLDER people who saw Perry and even though I realize Pineda isn't Perry. I don't need him to be. I can talk about the past but I like the direction they are going. Again, what some of you have are dissenting opinions. There yours, I ain't going to change yours. Even if I was logical and explained everything to a tee, there will be a great many who have already turned into stone and not even Super Nanny is going to break them out of it. It's fine. I can talk about the band ad infinitum but eventually it's going to come back to THEIR choice for a singer. I'm cool with it and even though the guy is a diamond in the rough, it seems that the same people will look for any little reason to vilify the guy. I watch plenty of sports, there are bunch of #1 draft picks who suck shit and fall off the face of whatever sport they were supposed to come in and dominate. Then there are those players that were drafted in the late rounds. Foreign players or guys that play in Division 3 or didn't play any college ball, and when given time, they become the players who help their team to titles. That's why I'm all for progression. Pineda will get it soon enough and my Vegas trip will be a blast to remember. You guys should go, that way you can take the bad audio or feed or youtube out of the equation. But if you don't, that's fine, there's a great many of us taking pics and such, maybe video. It will be through our viewfinder but at least, it's a viewpoint.

[Red13JoePa]

Great post Greg.

Thanks for bestowing that painstakingly poigniant, meticulously thought-out, penetratingly illuminating post upon us.

You're gonna force linus out of retirement to reclaim her crown.

[Rick]

Not A dime from me either anymore ...after all the hype then hearing a bunch of tunes on Itunes and hearing his pronunciations of words he's a good singer but not for this band he's not at the level that most Journey Fans are used to.They are grasping at straws...go figure...they should've left things alone,and let the cards fall where they may with Jeff.imo

Like Steve A, who sometimes couldnt even hit a barn door, never mind the musical notes. Unlike AP who will more often that hit the notes without any problem, without needing to convert to falcetto (sp?)

He better learn to convert to falsetto, or he'll be sounding like a 59 year old SP pretty damn quick. Journey probably has one of the toughest catalogs to sing in rock music.

[Rockindeano]

Great post Greg.

Thanks for bestowing that painstakingly poigniant, meticulously thought-out, penetratingly illuminating post upon us.

You're gonna force linus out of retirement to reclaim her crown.

Genius, in your own weird assed way.

[ttango1]

if Hunsicker were the choice, you would all be lined up and ready to hit Vegas

If that were the case, how many dissenters would show up with Voltron?

[ohsherrie]

Great post Greg.

Thanks for bestowing that painstakingly poigniant, meticulously thought-out, penetratingly illuminating post upon us.

You're gonna force linus out of retirement to reclaim her crown.

Why use more words than are necessary?

We don't all have to line up for the shearing just because some of you choose to. But hey, if you like that sort of thing go for it. I don't mind if you don't. It's your $$.

[Lula]

Just as you listen to Journey mostly for the guitar parts, I listen to Journey for the vocals mostly, guitars secondly. Not to take anything away from Neal Schon, but I'm like most Journey fans: Journey will always be Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Jon Cain, Ross Valory, and Steve Smith.

gregg rolie, dammit!

[Greg]

Your biggest problem is that you'd rather complain and whine about those who "aren't on the bandwagon" rather than to focus your thoughts on the band itself. Those of us who have not been impressed by this current singer have stuck to conversing about the band itself. We can care less if there are fans who will go after anything Journey puts out there for them.

And frankly, you and your clan's biggest problem is that Hunsicker got passed over. Everyone who is excited and somewhat re energized and going to Vegas are assholes, yet, if Hunsicker were the choice, you would all be lined up and ready to hit Vegas. Gimme a break Greg. It's so transparent. It's all bullshit hype, yet if it were Hunsicker, you all would be where we are now.

Nope, you're completely wrong Dean. My problem with Journey has nothing to do with Jeremey not being the lead singer of Journey. My problems with Journey have stemmed from their management of the band during the last year or so of Augeri and how they handled things with Jeff Scott Soto: something in which made you so angry that you said you were through with Journey and would never post in this forum again. But, I digress.

Secondly, I have not spoken an ill word toward anybody's positive opinion on this band. If you and some other think Arnel Pineda is the next best thing, then that's fine. Enjoy the concerts, enjoy whatever new albums (if any) are released. But, I have not been impressed by Arnel for many reasons...none of them having to do with his nationality or race...so let's nip that in the bud right now. If Arnel improves and turns out to be the best lead singer since Steve Perry and I'm able to be convinced by this...great! But, forgive me if my expectations are a little higher than what AP is giving me right now. After my favorite band of all time has made so many frequent lead singer changes in just a short time, a person eventually becomes a little disheartened by the process. I want them to get it right and felt Jeff was the right choice to lead Journey into a brand new, great direction once again....not a nostalgic act. Again, this has nothing to do with Arnel Pineda ( I think the guy is a nice guy and living out a dream we all would love to accomplish,) nor does it have to do with the views of anybody from any other forums nor this forum. My opinions are my opinions alone. Agree or disagree, doesn't matter to me whatsoever. Just respect my opinion and I'll continue to respect yours.

[Rockindeano]

Well said Greg.