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Postby finalfight » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:34 am

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Why didn't Queen pick up Jeff instead of Rodgers? Everybody has this question. I'd love an answer.



The somewhat substantiated rumor (possibly confirmed) for Queen is that Rodgers was NOT the first choice. John Farnham turned it down previous--which has more credibility if you consider Farnham's version of We Will Rock You from his Greatest Hits album with Queen backing him. This was also right at the time where Farnham had just retired from major tours, and joining Queen would mean a lot of live shows. Add to it that Farnham has been solo for the majority of his 40+ years of performing, exept for replacing the singer in Little River Band, which didn't go over that well--so he knew what he would be getting into. Now, Queen + JF probably would have gone over rather well as Farnham can basically sing anything except for one problem. In Australia, Queen would probably be OPENING for Farnham, but everywhere else, Farnham is nobody. Great singer, great stage presence, but totally unheard of in Europe and America, where Queen's audience is.

Once Farnham was out, Queen was stuck with picking someone up who didn't really sound like Freddy Mercury. Here is probably where JSS came into the picture, however briefly. Paul Rodgers is a name, JSS is not. It doesn't matter if you put a great singer and awesome frontman in the band--he is still unknown to your audience. Paul Rodgers is known however, and has fans, which brings money to Queen in US/UK. Basically, like everything else, it boils down to money.


I don't think Queen would have had any problems in generating income without Paul Rodgers. Weird though that they picked probably the polar opposite vocalist of Freddie to continue Queen's legacy. Like Brian May once said "you have to own your own poo". Frankly, who would know better than him...?
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Postby kgdjpubs » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:50 am

finalfight wrote:I don't think Queen would have had any problems in generating income without Paul Rodgers. Weird though that they picked probably the polar opposite vocalist of Freddie to continue Queen's legacy. Like Brian May once said "you have to own your own poo". Frankly, who would know better than him...?


No, but putting a no-name singer WILL generate less income than putting a name singer out there fronting a generally irrevalent band that hasn't done anything for 15+ years (see Journey). Given a random example...."Journey with Marc Anthony" or "Journey with Michael Bolton" will sell more than "Journey with some guy nobody ever heard of that sang on some cd that sold 10 copies 15 years ago". One is no better than the other, but public perception changes. Put a name singer fronting Journey, and they will be playing larger places as a headline act, as opposed to being a headline on a package tour with other known bands playing the same (or smaller) venues.

I do agree with you however about picking the polar opposite of Freddie. Farnham could probably do a pretty much dead-on cover of FM if he wanted to, and JSS fits the band vocally far better than Paul Rodgers if you are going with someone who sounds different...but it's their band. From various interviews, it seems like Brian May likes JSS, but for some reason, he wanted someone else.
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Postby iLex » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:28 am

YoungJRNY wrote:There are a lot of stars of his quality out there...

Definitely not!
I don't think you know a lot about Jeff, let me introduce you the fast way ...if possible.
Jeff wrote history with Yngwie when barely 18 years old (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/yngwie/IAmAViking.mp3
While he was listening to Perry, Prince and Queen, he emphasized his metal status even more by joining Axel Rudi Pell's band. Here's a softer ARP cover (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/arp/ForeverYoung.mp3

Jeff's not black nor white, officially hispanic, he seems to be gifted with the best of both worlds. His Sam Cooke like tunes have always been amongst my favorite JSS stuff.
Here he was 24, everything you hear is JSS. How many 24 year olds do you think could pull this off? (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/eyes/Somebody2Love.mp3
Or this one (FULL TUNE)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/liveatthegods/2YourHeart.mp3 (2002)
Also (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/talisman/hu ... MyBaby.mp3 (1996)

With Talisman Jeff (and Marcel Jacob) developed a groovy, catchy kind of sound, different from all the other melodic rock bands I've ever heard. Check out Jeff's site for tons of samples...
http://jeffscottsoto.com/home/page9/page9.html

From RedList (samples)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/WorldToday.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/Higher.mp3
To the Queen Convention DVD (YouTube vids)...
Spread Your Wings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3eZiSOvZGY
Save Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7BMBPnlAHc
Who Wants To Live Forever / Somebody To Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-FLQvA5-Tk
The show must go on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2cCeuJeIw
Is there anything this guy can't sing?
Prince maybe?...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/talisman/truth/DarlingNikki.mp3
Boston?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kK8ytxB01s
Patti Labelle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQShHMd1rlI  :D

More vids worth watching:
Eyes Of Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZ60fz2BBE
Holding On: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGJHcauAS6Y
Nobody Said It Was Easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNJ0RY2cC8
Crazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlhRgkSmg7Y
Disco medley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRitovzQTU

Ever listened to SoulSirkUS (with Neal)?
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/SoulGoesOn.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil ... Lovers.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/ComingHome.mp3

Jeff's so damn good in so many different styles it ain't fair to claim "There are a lot of stars of his quality out there", just name one.

So why isn't he a mega superstar yet? Probably it's all a matter of having the right deal with the right company at the right time. Not that easy.





   
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Postby mistiejourney » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:39 am

Ilex - that is a great synopsis!!!!!
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Postby Deb » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:40 am

iLex wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:There are a lot of stars of his quality out there...

Definitely not!
I don't think you know a lot about Jeff, let me introduce you the fast way ...if possible.
Jeff wrote history with Yngwie when barely 18 years old (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/yngwie/IAmAViking.mp3
While he was listening to Perry, Prince and Queen, he emphasized his metal status even more by joining Axel Rudi Pell's band. Here's a softer ARP cover (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/arp/ForeverYoung.mp3

Jeff's not black nor white, officially hispanic, he seems to be gifted with the best of both worlds. His Sam Cooke like tunes have always been amongst my favorite JSS stuff.
Here he was 24, everything you hear is JSS. How many 24 year olds do you think could pull this off? (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/eyes/Somebody2Love.mp3
Or this one (FULL TUNE)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/liveatthegods/2YourHeart.mp3 (2002)
Also (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/talisman/hu ... MyBaby.mp3 (1996)

With Talisman Jeff (and Marcel Jacob) developed a groovy, catchy kind of sound, different from all the other melodic rock bands I've ever heard. Check out Jeff's site for tons of samples...
http://jeffscottsoto.com/home/page9/page9.html

From RedList (samples)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/WorldToday.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/Higher.mp3
To the Queen Convention DVD (YouTube vids)...
Spread Your Wings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3eZiSOvZGY
Save Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7BMBPnlAHc
Who Wants To Live Forever / Somebody To Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-FLQvA5-Tk
The show must go on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2cCeuJeIw
Is there anything this guy can't sing?
Prince maybe?...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/talisman/truth/DarlingNikki.mp3
Boston?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kK8ytxB01s
Patti Labelle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQShHMd1rlI  :D

More vids worth watching:
Eyes Of Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZ60fz2BBE
Holding On: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGJHcauAS6Y
Nobody Said It Was Easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNJ0RY2cC8
Crazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlhRgkSmg7Y
Disco medley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRitovzQTU

Ever listened to SoulSirkUS (with Neal)?
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/SoulGoesOn.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil ... Lovers.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/ComingHome.mp3

Jeff's so damn good in so many different styles it ain't fair to claim "There are a lot of stars of his quality out there", just name one.

So why isn't he a mega superstar yet? Probably it's all a matter of having the right deal with the right company at the right time. Not that easy.

   


Damnit Alex, I'm supposed to be working! :lol: :P His soulful, motown-like tunes are my favorite JSS stuff too. :D
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Re: OT: Serious question for all you JSS followers

Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:44 am

kgdjpubs wrote:
finalfight wrote:I don't think Queen would have had any problems in generating income without Paul Rodgers. Weird though that they picked probably the polar opposite vocalist of Freddie to continue Queen's legacy. Like Brian May once said "you have to own your own poo". Frankly, who would know better than him...?


No, but putting a no-name singer WILL generate less income than putting a name singer out there fronting a generally irrevalent band that hasn't done anything for 15+ years (see Journey). Given a random example...."Journey with Marc Anthony" or "Journey with Michael Bolton" will sell more than "Journey with some guy nobody ever heard of that sang on some cd that sold 10 copies 15 years ago". One is no better than the other, but public perception changes. Put a name singer fronting Journey, and they will be playing larger places as a headline act, as opposed to being a headline on a package tour with other known bands playing the same (or smaller) venues.

I do agree with you however about picking the polar opposite of Freddie. Farnham could probably do a pretty much dead-on cover of FM if he wanted to, and JSS fits the band vocally far better than Paul Rodgers if you are going with someone who sounds different...but it's their band. From various interviews, it seems like Brian May likes JSS, but for some reason, he wanted someone else.



May and Soto are good friends . May explains his queen decison in his blog about JSS firing from Journey. The link is below. Go to the June 2007 archive
http://www.brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssb.html

By that logic it had to be Paul Rogers in the sitation that Queen were in - and that wasnt anyting against Jeff.
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Postby iLex » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:46 am

Deb wrote:
Damnit Alex, I'm supposed to be working! :lol: :P

Why don't you just put your watch 8 hours ahead and work during daylight hours, like we do?! :lol: :P
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Postby Deb » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:51 am

iLex wrote:
Deb wrote:
Damnit Alex, I'm supposed to be working! :lol: :P

Why don't you just put your watch 8 hours ahead and work during daylight hours, like we do?! :lol: :P


What time is it there? :lol: If I put my watch 8 hours ahead here, it makes it night time. :lol: :P
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:55 am

YoungJRNY wrote:There are a lot of stars of his quality out there.


name them.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:00 am

Deb wrote:
iLex wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:There are a lot of stars of his quality out there...

Definitely not!
I don't think you know a lot about Jeff, let me introduce you the fast way ...if possible.
Jeff wrote history with Yngwie when barely 18 years old (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/yngwie/IAmAViking.mp3
While he was listening to Perry, Prince and Queen, he emphasized his metal status even more by joining Axel Rudi Pell's band. Here's a softer ARP cover (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/arp/ForeverYoung.mp3

Jeff's not black nor white, officially hispanic, he seems to be gifted with the best of both worlds. His Sam Cooke like tunes have always been amongst my favorite JSS stuff.
Here he was 24, everything you hear is JSS. How many 24 year olds do you think could pull this off? (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/eyes/Somebody2Love.mp3
Or this one (FULL TUNE)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/liveatthegods/2YourHeart.mp3 (2002)
Also (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/talisman/hu ... MyBaby.mp3 (1996)

With Talisman Jeff (and Marcel Jacob) developed a groovy, catchy kind of sound, different from all the other melodic rock bands I've ever heard. Check out Jeff's site for tons of samples...
http://jeffscottsoto.com/home/page9/page9.html

From RedList (samples)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/WorldToday.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/Higher.mp3
To the Queen Convention DVD (YouTube vids)...
Spread Your Wings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3eZiSOvZGY
Save Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7BMBPnlAHc
Who Wants To Live Forever / Somebody To Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-FLQvA5-Tk
The show must go on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2cCeuJeIw
Is there anything this guy can't sing?
Prince maybe?...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/talisman/truth/DarlingNikki.mp3
Boston?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kK8ytxB01s
Patti Labelle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQShHMd1rlI :D

More vids worth watching:
Eyes Of Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZ60fz2BBE
Holding On: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGJHcauAS6Y
Nobody Said It Was Easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNJ0RY2cC8
Crazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlhRgkSmg7Y
Disco medley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRitovzQTU

Ever listened to SoulSirkUS (with Neal)?
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/SoulGoesOn.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil ... Lovers.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/ComingHome.mp3

Jeff's so damn good in so many different styles it ain't fair to claim "There are a lot of stars of his quality out there", just name one.

So why isn't he a mega superstar yet? Probably it's all a matter of having the right deal with the right company at the right time. Not that easy.



Damnit Alex, I'm supposed to be working! :lol: :P His soulful, motown-like tunes are my favorite JSS stuff too. :D


I understand where you are coming from., iLex.(Good work, BTW) and I knew about JSS when he officially became lead singer of Journey on tour. Yes, I looked things up on him, and became a fan of his own tunes. You don't need that much information to know how great of an artist Jeff is..no questioning about that whatsoever. Whoever knocks JSS in anyway as a vocalist could be digging themselves a grave since he has covered just about everything.

Point is, Jeff Scott Soto is not a household name. If you go pull people off the streets in the U.S right now and ask them who Jeff Scott Soto is, best bet they would shrug their shoulders, and that is not JSS's fault, or has anything to do with his singing career and ability. Sometimes it's not how good you can sing anymore, it's the man power behind your own management of what they can bring the table for you. In JSS's case, who knows.

I like the response of the fact that it is just not the right time in the music era to benefit guys like JSS into stardom, world-wide.

I guess the good thing you can say that the dude can sing and puts out good music! That's all you can ask.
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Postby iLex » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:09 am

Deb wrote:
iLex wrote:
Deb wrote:
Damnit Alex, I'm supposed to be working! :lol: :P

Why don't you just put your watch 8 hours ahead and work during daylight hours, like we do?! :lol: :P


What time is it there? :lol: If I put my watch 8 hours ahead here, it makes it night time. :lol: :P

OK, I see :D
It's 22.10 PM over here in Belgium, we're one hour ahead of the UK.
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Postby Deb » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:14 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Point is, Jeff Scott Soto is not a household name. If you go pull people off the streets in the U.S right now and ask them who Jeff Scott Soto is, best bet they would shrug their shoulders, and that is not JSS's fault, or has anything to do with his singing career and ability.


LOL not in my circles! They all know who JSS is whether they want to or not. :lol: :P :mrgreen:

Alex, it's 2:12 here in western Canada.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:15 am

Deb wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Point is, Jeff Scott Soto is not a household name. If you go pull people off the streets in the U.S right now and ask them who Jeff Scott Soto is, best bet they would shrug their shoulders, and that is not JSS's fault, or has anything to do with his singing career and ability.


LOL not in my circles! They all know who JSS is whether they want to or not. :lol: :P :mrgreen:

Alex, it's 2:12 here.


haha, that's the best way to look at it, Deb :wink:
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Postby iLex » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:18 am

YoungJRNY wrote:I understand where you are coming from., iLex.(Good work, BTW) and I knew about JSS when he officially became lead singer of Journey on tour. Yes, I looked things up on him, and became a fan of his own tunes. You don't need that much information to know how great of an artist Jeff is..no questioning about that whatsoever. Whoever knocks JSS in anyway as a vocalist could be digging themselves a grave since he has covered just about everything.

Point is, Jeff Scott Soto is not a household name. If you go pull people off the streets in the U.S right now and ask them who Jeff Scott Soto is, best bet they would shrug their shoulders, and that is not JSS's fault, or has anything to do with his singing career and ability. Sometimes it's not how good you can sing anymore, it's the man power behind your own management of what they can bring the table for you. In JSS's case, who knows.

I like the response of the fact that it is just not the right time in the music era to benefit guys like JSS into stardom, world-wide.

I guess the good thing you can say that the dude can sing and puts out good music! That's all you can ask.

Thanks for making your point of view clearer. Not much I can disagree about :wink:
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:23 am

Deb wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Point is, Jeff Scott Soto is not a household name. If you go pull people off the streets in the U.S right now and ask them who Jeff Scott Soto is, best bet they would shrug their shoulders, and that is not JSS's fault, or has anything to do with his singing career and ability.


LOL not in my circles! They all know who JSS is whether they want to or not. :lol: :P :mrgreen:

Alex, it's 2:12 here in western Canada.


Yeah, everyone I hang out with and generally associate with usually gets to hear JSS in some capacity. ;)
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Re: OT: Serious question for all you JSS followers

Postby Little Lenny » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:44 pm

texafana wrote:Ok, I've done my research the past few months. Granted, I still stand by my views that he was not a good fit with Journey, however....

The guy can sing his ass off.
Eyes of Love, Stand Up And Shout, etc, are KILLER tunes.

You would think someone with that caliber of talent would have already "made it" years ago. But I don't know if it was bad marketing, bad p&r, etc, etc, something has stalled the man from becoming a mega star.

Question: Why isn't Jeff Scott Soto a mega superstar and a household name?


He did in Europe :-)
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Postby texafana » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:20 pm

iLex wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:There are a lot of stars of his quality out there...

Definitely not!
I don't think you know a lot about Jeff, let me introduce you the fast way ...if possible.
Jeff wrote history with Yngwie when barely 18 years old (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/yngwie/IAmAViking.mp3
While he was listening to Perry, Prince and Queen, he emphasized his metal status even more by joining Axel Rudi Pell's band. Here's a softer ARP cover (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/arp/ForeverYoung.mp3

Jeff's not black nor white, officially hispanic, he seems to be gifted with the best of both worlds. His Sam Cooke like tunes have always been amongst my favorite JSS stuff.
Here he was 24, everything you hear is JSS. How many 24 year olds do you think could pull this off? (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/eyes/Somebody2Love.mp3
Or this one (FULL TUNE)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/liveatthegods/2YourHeart.mp3 (2002)
Also (sample)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/retro/talisman/hu ... MyBaby.mp3 (1996)

With Talisman Jeff (and Marcel Jacob) developed a groovy, catchy kind of sound, different from all the other melodic rock bands I've ever heard. Check out Jeff's site for tons of samples...
http://jeffscottsoto.com/home/page9/page9.html

From RedList (samples)...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/WorldToday.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/redlist2/Higher.mp3
To the Queen Convention DVD (YouTube vids)...
Spread Your Wings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3eZiSOvZGY
Save Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7BMBPnlAHc
Who Wants To Live Forever / Somebody To Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-FLQvA5-Tk
The show must go on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2cCeuJeIw
Is there anything this guy can't sing?
Prince maybe?...
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/talisman/truth/DarlingNikki.mp3
Boston?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kK8ytxB01s
Patti Labelle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQShHMd1rlI  :D

More vids worth watching:
Eyes Of Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZ60fz2BBE
Holding On: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGJHcauAS6Y
Nobody Said It Was Easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNJ0RY2cC8
Crazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlhRgkSmg7Y
Disco medley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRitovzQTU

Ever listened to SoulSirkUS (with Neal)?
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/SoulGoesOn.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil ... Lovers.mp3
http://lexilyn.be/mp3/soulsirkus/Virgil/ComingHome.mp3

Jeff's so damn good in so many different styles it ain't fair to claim "There are a lot of stars of his quality out there", just name one.

So why isn't he a mega superstar yet? Probably it's all a matter of having the right deal with the right company at the right time. Not that easy.


wow... :idea: I think you just visually documented the answer to my question. It simply has to be, for lack of a better answer, Jeff has just had his hands in one too many musical pies. And "Joe Public" as musical consumers just can't identify with any singular flavor, so we either digest everything or nibble on musical morsals here and there, hence, his market potential may have never had time to fully develop. :?:

What an incredible talent though, no doubt about that.
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Re: OT: Serious question for all you JSS followers

Postby finalfight » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:37 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
finalfight wrote:I don't think Queen would have had any problems in generating income without Paul Rodgers. Weird though that they picked probably the polar opposite vocalist of Freddie to continue Queen's legacy. Like Brian May once said "you have to own your own poo". Frankly, who would know better than him...?


No, but putting a no-name singer WILL generate less income than putting a name singer out there fronting a generally irrevalent band that hasn't done anything for 15+ years (see Journey). Given a random example...."Journey with Marc Anthony" or "Journey with Michael Bolton" will sell more than "Journey with some guy nobody ever heard of that sang on some cd that sold 10 copies 15 years ago". One is no better than the other, but public perception changes. Put a name singer fronting Journey, and they will be playing larger places as a headline act, as opposed to being a headline on a package tour with other known bands playing the same (or smaller) venues.

I do agree with you however about picking the polar opposite of Freddie. Farnham could probably do a pretty much dead-on cover of FM if he wanted to, and JSS fits the band vocally far better than Paul Rodgers if you are going with someone who sounds different...but it's their band. From various interviews, it seems like Brian May likes JSS, but for some reason, he wanted someone else.


Regarding Journey touring with a more famous singer - a sold out venue is a sold out venue regardless of the frontman and Marc Anthony (aka Skeletor) is hardly a household name especially outside of the US. I agree album sales would definately recieve a boost if a big name was attached but due to to a dwindling record market touring (and merchandise) is what generates the majority of any bands income these days.

As for Farnham doing a dead on Freddie impersonation - to hell with that. Farnham is twice the singer Mercury ever was. JSS would be an amazing fit for Queen though who are best described as legendary and not in anyway 'irrevalent'.
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Postby Little Lenny » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:09 pm

finalfight wrote:Farnham is twice the singer Mercury ever was.



:? i think freddy had an ace voice!!
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Re: OT: Serious question for all you JSS followers

Postby Vladan » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:53 pm

Little Lenny wrote:
finalfight wrote:Farnham is twice the singer Mercury ever was.



:? i think freddy had an ace voice!!


Freddie is a legend! but I'll call a spade a spade, John Farnham is sublime! Still in my opinion this guy is the best of them all, one of the main reasons is, not only his capability of singing, but his long jeopardy! I believe Farnham is one of Arnel Pineda's idols as well. I love Perry, though Farnahm is still going hard to this day, not only that - he didn't lose his voice, the songs Farnham sings are hard songs and just as challenging if not more challenging than Journey tunes. Steve Perry is my personal favorite singer, but I feel John Farnham is unmatched as well.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:55 am

Vladan wrote:
Little Lenny wrote:
finalfight wrote:Farnham is twice the singer Mercury ever was.



:? i think freddy had an ace voice!!


Freddie is a legend! but I'll call a spade a spade, John Farnham is sublime! Still in my opinion this guy is the best of them all, one of the main reasons is, not only his capability of singing, but his long jeopardy! I believe Farnham is one of Arnel Pineda's idols as well. I love Perry, though Farnahm is still going hard to this day, not only that - he didn't lose his voice, the songs Farnham sings are hard songs and just as challenging if not more challenging than Journey tunes. Steve Perry is my personal favorite singer, but I feel John Farnham is unmatched as well.


I won't even try to get into any comparisons between the singers except to say that Farnham (as mentioned) is respected by a LOT of singers. I think the best I ever heard was from Jimmy Barnes who basically said "does the guy EVER have an off night?", and I can't say I've ever heard him sound bad on any live clip. Queen + John Farnham would have been something to see, no doubt about it.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:58 am

Farnham's voice is so strong and powerful, even now. He does have a tendency to oversing stuff though, that's why his reception with the LRB was lukewarm at best.
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Postby Indyjoe » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:07 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:Point is, Jeff Scott Soto is not a household name. If you go pull people off the streets in the U.S right now and ask them who Jeff Scott Soto is, best bet they would shrug their shoulders, and that is not JSS's fault, or has anything to do with his singing career and ability.


LOL not in my circles! They all know who JSS is whether they want to or not. :lol: :P :mrgreen:

Alex, it's 2:12 here in western Canada.


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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:27 am

finalfight wrote:Regarding Journey touring with a more famous singer - a sold out venue is a sold out venue regardless of the frontman and Marc Anthony (aka Skeletor) is hardly a household name especially outside of the US. I agree album sales would definately recieve a boost if a big name was attached but due to to a dwindling record market touring (and merchandise) is what generates the majority of any bands income these days.


yes, but a sold out venue with Journey plus some upcoming band in support makes a LOT more money for Journey than a sold out venue with Journey and Def Leppard co-headlining. Putting a name singer fronting Journey MIGHT get them to the level they could be with Perry singing, which is bigger venues and a solid headline act, as opposed to doing package deals. Doesn't really matter though, other than just fun speculation. We all know it isn't going to happen.

finalfight wrote:As for Farnham doing a dead on Freddie impersonation - to hell with that. Farnham is twice the singer Mercury ever was. JSS would be an amazing fit for Queen though who are best described as legendary and not in anyway 'irrevalent'.


Well, Farnham can at least hold his own with just about any singer. And yes, JSS would have done really well also.
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Postby Deb » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:32 am

Indyjoe wrote:
Deb wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Point is, Jeff Scott Soto is not a household name. If you go pull people off the streets in the U.S right now and ask them who Jeff Scott Soto is, best bet they would shrug their shoulders, and that is not JSS's fault, or has anything to do with his singing career and ability.


LOL not in my circles! They all know who JSS is whether they want to or not. :lol: :P :mrgreen:

Alex, it's 2:12 here in western Canada.


My circles do too!


You have no idea how many people I've sent this link to. :lol: :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxgryv4QEu4
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Postby Granny » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:33 am

Besides having killer vocals, Jeff has an amazing on stage persona....Sure, the voice is important but even more is the delivery and stage presence...Jeff has it all...ain't bad on the eyes either....

My hubby, who is called the Norminator by Jeff, won't pay one red cent to see a live concert unless JSS is in front... :lol:

If you haven't seen him LIVE you cannot judge him...he is incredible... :)
Makes the whole experience a night to remember...

Jeff we miss you!!!!!!! :(
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Postby iLex » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:49 pm

Deb wrote:You have no idea how many people I've sent this link to. :lol: :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxgryv4QEu4


Haha... Gary Schutt put this video together, originally with a Talisman song (forgot which one). Richard asked me to replace that song with Soul Divine and to use it as a promo video. Which I did. Most shots are from The Lokerse Feesten Festival here in Belgium (2003). Probably one of Talisman's best shows ever. 2 guitar players, Howie and Fredrik and pontus behind the PA... what more could we ask for?
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Postby Deb » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:30 am

iLex wrote:
Deb wrote:You have no idea how many people I've sent this link to. :lol: :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxgryv4QEu4


Haha... Gary Schutt put this video together, originally with a Talisman song (forgot which one). Richard asked me to replace that song with Soul Divine and to use it as a promo video. Which I did. Most shots are from The Lokerse Feesten Festival here in Belgium (2003). Probably one of Talisman's best shows ever. 2 guitar players, Howie and Fredrik and pontus behind the PA... what more could we ask for?


I recognized a bunch of those shots from the World's Best Kept Secret (and Queen) dvds. Gary is great at that stuff. Isn't he the one who put some of Jeff's videos (Eyes of Love, Believe in Me) together too? God bless him cuz us fans sure appreciate it! :D
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