Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

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Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby RPM » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:28 am

Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish(is that a word?)... :shock:
reel in that big voice of yours and use some FINESSE. bring some contrast in your voice
and the strong higher parts will really stand out . I realize this is tougher to do on more upbeat songs
and easier on ballads, but its what seperates the pretenders from the pros. and youve got the potential dude!

Keep Rockin ,
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Postby StoneCold » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 am

Reelin' in the ears. :D
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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 am

StoneCold wrote:Reelin' in the ears. :D


:roll: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:31 am

RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish(is that a word?)... :shock:


Hey, man... with all respect to your thoughts, you'd have to say the same thing to Deen.

BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping...
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Postby StoneCold » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:32 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
StoneCold wrote:Reelin' in the ears. :D


:roll: :lol: :lol:


You know you thought the same thing. Who doesn't love Steely Dan?

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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:33 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish(is that a word?)... :shock:


Hey, man... with all respect to your thoughts, you'd have to say the same thing to Deen.

BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping...



I absolutely LOVED Mother/Father. Somehow we never managed to hear Deen do that one at the several concerts we attended in the last year or so. BEAUTIFUL!!! That is such an emotional song anyway.
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Postby RPM » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:36 am

"Hey, man... with all respect to your thoughts, you'd have to say the same thing to Deen.

BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping.."

Dude , hes the drummer! I am just amazed at what he does, got cut him some slack...
and yes he does that tune wonderfully..

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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:37 am

StoneCold wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StoneCold wrote:Reelin' in the ears. :D


:roll: :lol: :lol:


You know you thought the same thing. Who doesn't love Steely Dan?

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:lol: I think that's actually their ONLY song that I like. It's a fun song for a keyboardist to play. The rest of their songs don't do anything for me.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby Rick » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:37 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish(is that a word?)... :shock:


Hey, man... with all respect to your thoughts, you'd have to say the same thing to Deen.

BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping...


Yes it was. Deen was the second star of the night, his vocals and drumming were both outstanding.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:39 am

Rick wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish(is that a word?)... :shock:


Hey, man... with all respect to your thoughts, you'd have to say the same thing to Deen.

BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping...


Yes it was. Deen was the second star of the night, his vocals and drumming were both outstanding.


Oh yeah! His drumming was awesome!! The best I've seen from him. Loved his drum solo, and when they put the camera on him for one of those last songs. Do you remember what that was? He was drumming away and we were in awe 8)
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby Enigma869 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:42 am

Rip Rokken wrote:BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping...


Does anyone have any clips of Deen's Vegas performance on "Mother, Father"? Perry is still the only guy I've ever heard really pull that one off! I suspect it's probably the most difficult song to perform in the Journey catalog. I would think Arnel would actually have the power to potentially pull this one off. I guess Neal doesn't trust anyone but Deen to even attempt it.


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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby StoneCold » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:44 am

Rick wrote: Yes it was. Deen was the second star of the night, his vocals and drumming were both outstanding.


Hey Rick, glad to see Richard back where he belongs.

Have you seen these? (3rd on down, great stuff)

http://www.imeem.com/tag/richard%20pryo ... rd%20pryor

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Postby Rip Rokken » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:46 am

RPM wrote:Dude , hes the drummer! I am just amazed at what he does, got cut him some slack...
and yes he does that tune wonderfully..

Ray


I do know where you are coming from, though, because I've felt the same way. Sometimes it does seem to me like people are trying to "out-Perry" Perry, but I've slacked off on that. I'd rather hear people put themselves into a song, and if they want to hold a note out longer, who knows? You know, there are some of Perry's notes that just really grab ya, and maybe they just don't want to let them go so quickly, like a tight hug.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby Rick » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:46 am

StoneCold wrote:
Rick wrote: Yes it was. Deen was the second star of the night, his vocals and drumming were both outstanding.


Hey Rick, glad to see Richard back where he belongs.

Have you seen these? (3rd on down, great stuff)

http://www.imeem.com/tag/richard%20pryo ... rd%20pryor

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No, haven't seen those. I'm going to bookmark them and check them out when I get a chance. Thanks SC.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby Journey69 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:47 am

RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish(is that a word?)... :shock:
reel in that big voice of yours and use some FINESSE. bring some contrast in your voice
and the strong higher parts will really stand out . I realize this is tougher to do on more upbeat songs
and easier on ballads, but its what seperates the pretenders from the pros. and youve got the potential dude!

Keep Rockin ,
Ray


I actually agree.. The singing your way only does the song justice as long as you don't f with it.. I'm curious to hear Arnel sing the songs they were written..I would so love to hear him sing Faith in the Heartland..That way you can get a feeling of how Perry would sound on it also..Hell,rerecord Arrival with Arnel.. :wink:
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Postby RPM » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:55 am

"The singing your way only does the song justice as long as you don't f with it.. "

BINGO!

I think part of it is that he has spent so many years with a band that was not very good.
He couldnt just fit in, he had to do it all because hes all there was . I think he will just keep getting better
as time goes on.

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Postby venomnation » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:57 am

I will agree with the thought only because we have seen on not one, but TWO occasions what this catalog can do to one's voice... I had the opportunity just last week, to try and do a scaled back, slowed down acoustic version of "Only the Young" and after one or two takes, my voice was shaky....I'd HATE to see what could happen day in and day out....
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Postby Journey69 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:12 pm

stevek2007 wrote:I will agree with the thought only because we have seen on not one, but TWO occasions what this catalog can do to one's voice... I had the opportunity just last week, to try and do a scaled back, slowed down acoustic version of "Only the Young" and after one or two takes, my voice was shaky....I'd HATE to see what could happen day in and day out....


That's cause it's tailored to Perry's voice not yours.. You have to be up there already like Arnel..
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby STORY_TELLER » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:16 pm

RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish


Are you referring to his pacing/timing of the lyrics to the instrumental? Or his over extension of notes in a way that goes against the grain of the original recording?
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby Journey69 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:03 pm

STORY_TELLER wrote:
RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish


Are you referring to his pacing/timing of the lyrics to the instrumental? Or his over extension of notes in a way that goes against the grain of the original recording?


Yes,that part..
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby brandonx76 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:23 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:Oh yeah! His drumming was awesome!! The best I've seen from him. Loved his drum solo, and when they put the camera on him for one of those last songs. Do you remember what that was? He was drumming away and we were in awe 8)


Deen did a drum solo that night? I didn't think I was THAT drunk...where was it during the set?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:25 pm

Note to dude above: "It's his 3rd show."
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Postby brandonx76 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:29 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:Note to dude above: "It's his 3rd show."


True - you'd think they'd hold off on filming/releasing a DVD so soon...Might be a good idea to 'capture' a show towards the end of the tour
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Postby Rick » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:33 pm

brandonpfn wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Note to dude above: "It's his 3rd show."


True - you'd think they'd hold off on filming/releasing a DVD so soon...Might be a good idea to 'capture' a show towards the end of the tour


I thought the same thing, but I think, aside from a couple of quirks, it's going to be a damn good DVD.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby Since 78 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:53 pm

Journey69 wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:
RPM wrote:Arnel dude we get it, youve got a great set of pipes, but holding the notes longer than necessary
in the wrong places sounds.....karaokeish


Are you referring to his pacing/timing of the lyrics to the instrumental? Or his over extension of notes in a way that goes against the grain of the original recording?


Yes,that part..


My thought about alot of the way he sings the classics is that he's trying to make them his own and not always sound like Perry.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby kgdjpubs » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:57 pm

Enigma869 wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping...


Does anyone have any clips of Deen's Vegas performance on "Mother, Father"? Perry is still the only guy I've ever heard really pull that one off! I suspect it's probably the most difficult song to perform in the Journey catalog. I would think Arnel would actually have the power to potentially pull this one off. I guess Neal doesn't trust anyone but Deen to even attempt it.


John from Boston



recently posted... http://youtube.com/watch?v=rvK5ctsnx9g&feature=user

and yea, Deen nails it. Not a complete version but pretty good. Got to hear it live around 2003 when they first pulled it out, and the audience was blown away. Augeri also did considerbly better on that than one would have expected, and I would love to hear Arnel give it a go also. Not exactly the easiest song to sing.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby RocknRoll » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:59 pm

What I heard is Deen still likes to sing the ballards, so they are keeping Mother Father in for Deen.
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Re: Note to Arnel: Reel it in a little .

Postby annie89509 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:13 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:BTW, as others have mentioned, Deen's performance of "Mother, Father" was jaw-dropping...


Does anyone have any clips of Deen's Vegas performance on "Mother, Father"? Perry is still the only guy I've ever heard really pull that one off! I suspect it's probably the most difficult song to perform in the Journey catalog. I would think Arnel would actually have the power to potentially pull this one off. I guess Neal doesn't trust anyone but Deen to even attempt it.


John from Boston



recently posted... http://youtube.com/watch?v=rvK5ctsnx9g&feature=user

and yea, Deen nails it. Not a complete version but pretty good. Got to hear it live around 2003 when they first pulled it out, and the audience was blown away. Augeri also did considerbly better on that than one would have expected, and I would love to hear Arnel give it a go also. Not exactly the easiest song to sing.


Is it my imagination, or is Neal looking younger nowadays?
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